after the Battle of Sekigahara the Chosokabe were ousted from Tosa Domain by the Tokugawa goverment and replaced by the Yamauchi clan with the first Tosa Yamauchi Daimyo being Yamauchi Kazutoyo. The Yamauchi rule Tosa Domain until the Abolition of the han system in 1871
Tosa Riflemen is probably my favorite unit of the game. Incredible base stats and being available to produce super early game with a just a barracks makes them a long lasting staple like line infantry. They also happen to have a unique breech loading animation which is much faster than the muzzle loading animation of most other units. I've also noticed that FOTS' autoresolve REALLY likes Tosa Riflemen for some reason. Not uncommon to see them picking up some 70% of all kills.
I did a republic campaign as tosa and just made tosa riflemen. I was able to autoresolve battles against armies twice the size of mine. Autoresolve REALLY likes tosa riflemen.
@@finnishboo4192 Had that when I got the blacksmith and shooting range. Reload so fast and shoots so accurate that Melee units usually Break before hitting em. Unless they banzai then you're shit outta luck (unless you shoot em fast enough to wipe em out).
@@finnishboo4192 Some American rolling up whit Gatling guns. [insert top gear meme, Jeremy Clarkson whit poor photoshop edit of a Shogun 2 head picture.] This is Brilliant [Picture of Gatling gun] But I like this [Picture of Tosa rifleman whit 100 accuracy straight out of the barrack]. just add a forgien veteran whit reloading drill and you got a Gatling gun.
Ryoma Sakamoto, a man instrumental to successfully ending the Boshin War without excessive bloodshed. Creative Assembly: meh, let's make him some average general. Great Content as usual!
yeah, he was a greatest man of that time for japan and he is still praised and famous :< sad he is just a generic general in this game...well game also doesnt even have date masamune scripted, or yoshitsune is nothing of ordinary too. id really like to see shogun 3 with more...heroic themes? like 3K is planning, would be pretty cool.
To be fair, every general in this game is a generic general, that's just a game mechanic. It'd be a bit weird if they took one or two generals and made them absolutely OP. That said, they could've given him a special trait at least.
draconianwarking dude. What. At least he made two bitter enemies allies. Choshu and Satsuma would have been at each others throats had it not been for him.
A trick about conquering entire Shikoku island without taking diplomatic penalty for attacking Allied is to send your Geisha up north to discover Sainuki and then Declare war on him on turn one. This will forced your Allied to join in this war. It sound stupid but it really isn't because Sainuki initially has no adjacent border to Tosa, thus the only viable target for them is your Allied. Regardless of who win, they should be weakened enough that after you finished off Iyo you can immediately smack them despite having 2 vs 2 provinces. Most of the time Sainuki win though, which saved you the hassle of diplomatic penalty.
The fastest possible way to conquer Shikoku is to always send around a fleet with an army to attack the enemy in the back while simultaneously attacking him with a land army prompting him to leave the capital allowing you to destroy his clan. You can also use this to take advantage of a clan attacking your ally or your ally betraying you. Getting rid of your fleet is a noob move cause the naval bombardment with its extended range allows you to take enemy castles with tiny armies so you can take over the whole island literally without stopping for a single turn. I've done it twice myself on legendary.
Mainly leaving this comment for myself, but I've tried this strategy three times now and each time, Sanuki kills your ally by about turn 3-5. This is a far better option than them declaring war later, because then your ally might win and then you'd have to deal with betraying them or using agent shenanigans. Also, if you don't declare war on them the first turn, for some reason they declare war on the Saga, who then in turn sail a giant death ball into their region and snatch it out from under your nose. machaiping is definitely correct, declaring war on turn 1 is much better than the alternative.
Hey anyone interested in a Victorian era style total war set in FOTS? I am working on a mod right now. Let me know if you're interested. I was a little concerned there was no more audience for Shogun 2 but turns out there's a lot. Progress is at 70% so far. I am currently working on a more expanded republic system.
the naval bombardment range increase makes tosa the most broken clan in the campaign. General retinue and skill can further increase the range by 3, making the ships more like ICBM's.
Here's an alternative to tosa expansion route, it works on all difficulties, put all your unit in your boats turn one and sail to nagoya in middle of japan, they have very few units at the start so its an rather easy fight to take a province with very fertile soil and blacksmith, as for your main province just let enemy or rebels take it. Nagoya also have very defensive port since you only need to block the small strait with one single navy, so you don't spend your entire middle game getting bombarded and wasting money on repairs.
I took that one step further and shipped everyone up to Hokkaido and took that over. The difficult part is keeping Tosa alive for the time it takes you to sail all the way up north.
Don't think so, the Chosokabe clan ended militarily and politically in 1615, after which the Yamauchi clan was given control of Tosa Province because of their loyalty to the Tokugawa dynasty, the rest of the tidbit that led to them being an Imperial clan can be read during the clan traits section: 0:22
You should reconsider tosa riflemen, i think it's the best autoresolve unit, in my campaign i won a lot of battles by losing something like 5% of my troops, same with sieges it's insane. i invaded several cities with 6 tosa riflemen and 3 armstrong cannons, no general. I must precise they were fully upgraded and have something like 100 precision, if not more.
From what I have heard the reason why Tosa has the red head piece is a tool for intimidation. They would wear the red head piece to unnerve or discourage enemies. Back in the day people with red hair were considered demons or monsters. I think it was the same for blondes.
@@paleface171 The red wig shown here were worn by Tosa Officers and the elite "Jinshotai" (lit. Swift Thrust Corps), the only group who were able to almost annihilate the feared Shogitai in Ueno (i.e. Mission 3 of the FOTS Campaign).
@@TrinityShoji Thats true, the red wig (Shaguma) were inspired by the English captain, navigator & shipbuilder Will Adams - Who rode the Dutch ship & came to Japan, during the Warring State & the meeting of Tokugawa Ieyasu. Thats why they have a statue of him in his honor. Not only that shows fear. Its also represents the domain they came from. The white wig (Haguma) of the Choshu domain & the Black wig (Koguma) of the Satsuma domain.
My early toughest decision during Tosa campaing is always attacking Satsuma because they can also follow the Emperor,then i remember that the blacksmith is there and is blitzkrieg time!
I played Tosa once and Saga twice. In all occasions your partner, Satsuma, conquers most of Kyushu and then switches sides to Shogunate. Be wary of that.
Great job man, i've been waiting for Tosa overview. BTW Tosa riflemen are strong enough to replace line infantry with them, and they still do their job.
One of my favorite clans, aside from the Jozai whose guerrilla tactics and superior light infantry give me many great options during the campaign. With the Tosa, I have some of the best ships in Fall of the Samurai, am able to control an entire island from which I can than secure further resources from the mainland, and conduct seafaring hit-and-run assaults against their opponents makes them a deadly force to be reckoned with.
You know, I completed a Tosa Rifleman only challenge not too long ago and I have to say, in Auto Resolve, Tosa Rifleman are outright broken. It wasn't uncommon for me to have a group of five Tosa Riflemen with some experience obliterate two or three full stacks with only a handful of casualties. The only time this started to not be a thing is when the higher accuracy and higher fire rate Imperial and Shogunate Infantry began showing up, but by that point, my Tosa Riflemen had conquered 2/3's of all Japan as a republic
The Tosa probably get the best deal when it comes to unique units in FoTS as both of them are extremely useful and practical. Red Bears are much more useful that Black and White Bears as the Reds only need a level 2 modern recruitment building making them great as an intermediary between Line infantry and SIR infantry. Tosa Riflemen are a massive upgrade over generic Sharpshooters, they share the same recruitment building and have no recruitment cap, making them a staple of your armies and useful well into the campaigns late game.
Autoresolve also really, and I mean REALLY, likes Tosa Riflemen. Like if you outfit an army with like 3-4 armstrong guns and fillout the rest of the army with TR, you can beat anything in autoresolve, it is ridiculous.
oddly enough the Tosa Riflemen have Spencer Carbines which are lever guns that hold 7 shots idk whether research wasn't done or it was just a balance decision
1, YAY! A New Video from MrSmartDonkeyLP :) 2, I'm trying to remember, there's this one sound effect in the game that sounds like "TOU! SAH!" as if doing some sort of polearm drill. I might be misremembering what it sounds like, but I think I've heard something similar elsewhere...
What is the difference between fighting for the shogun or the emperor. I understand the boshin war was fought mainly due to western influence. That it was the shogun who opened the doors to japan, and wanted to westernize, where as the emperor wanted to preserve Japanese traditions, while modernizing. But in the game dose it make any difference at all who you side with? Do you get any specific buffs for supporting either or?
Shogunate and Empire have some unique units and their police agent is different depending of the alligance. Btw tradition vs modernity wiev of the Boshin war is veeery flawed. At this point, every top person in the Japan wantd to modernise and seeked contenct with western world.
@@konradpiotrpaszkowski631 Im somewhat familiar with the Boshin war. I'm pretty sure the game got the conflict backwards. The shogun wanted to modernize the country, while the emperor wanted to keep it traditional. It was only toward the end of the conflict did the emperor realize if Japan is to survive it must modernize. However the Emperor was very dead set on preserving Japanese cultural traditions, while also centralizing the government. Which is why Japan today is still very culturally and socially traditional. I think the game failed to capture that, as at the heart of the conflict was the rejection vs acceptance of western culture and customs. The samurai also played a large role in the conflict fearing that they would become irrelevant, and loose their place in Japanese society, which was a place of prominence and respect. They of course did loose their relevance and place in Japanese society.
I usally beeline as soon as I can (after capturing Ozu) the blacksmith in Bizen on the mainland to the north whit the aim to turning it into a gunsmith as soon as possible and building the Artillery Academy, Firing Range and Barracks +35 accuracy). and just crank out Tosa Riflemen and armstrong guns (both whit the gunsmith and target range having almost 100 in accuracy as level 1 recruits). also one thing that was mention is that there is no limit on the Tosa Riflemen you can recruit.
Hi! As you mension in every video in totalwar shogun 2 there is one best army composition for the vanilla game and the dlcs. But what are these in your opinion?
Just for Fall of the Samurai, it's pretty straight forward. A General, 4 Revolver Cav, 2-4 Armstrong Guns, and the rest whatever the best line infantry is you can build at that time.
The last time I was this early the tosa were still the chosokabe
Nice reference. Motochika would be proud. They were a mighty clan. I visited the castle in Kochi. Wonderful museum
@Matthew Royal GET OOUUUUT
after the Battle of Sekigahara the Chosokabe were ousted from Tosa Domain by the Tokugawa goverment and replaced by the Yamauchi clan with the first Tosa Yamauchi Daimyo being Yamauchi Kazutoyo. The Yamauchi rule Tosa Domain until the Abolition of the han system in 1871
@@RocketHarry865 The Yamauchi clan who rule the Tosa Domain in FOTS appear in the base Shogun 2 campaign as a minor clan and a puppet of the Uesugi.
@@andrew2353 I think that's Yamanouchi, not Yamauchi
Tosa Riflemen is probably my favorite unit of the game. Incredible base stats and being available to produce super early game with a just a barracks makes them a long lasting staple like line infantry. They also happen to have a unique breech loading animation which is much faster than the muzzle loading animation of most other units.
I've also noticed that FOTS' autoresolve REALLY likes Tosa Riflemen for some reason. Not uncommon to see them picking up some 70% of all kills.
I did a republic campaign as tosa and just made tosa riflemen. I was able to autoresolve battles against armies twice the size of mine. Autoresolve REALLY likes tosa riflemen.
Imagine tosa rifle men whit 90 - 100 accuracy
@@finnishboo4192 Had that when I got the blacksmith and shooting range. Reload so fast and shoots so accurate that Melee units usually Break before hitting em. Unless they banzai then you're shit outta luck (unless you shoot em fast enough to wipe em out).
@@finnishboo4192 Some American rolling up whit Gatling guns.
[insert top gear meme, Jeremy Clarkson whit poor photoshop edit of a Shogun 2 head picture.]
This is Brilliant [Picture of Gatling gun]
But I like this [Picture of Tosa rifleman whit 100 accuracy straight out of the barrack].
just add a forgien veteran whit reloading drill and you got a Gatling gun.
I allied with Satsuma, they were 7 province big + mighty so i saw it proper way to progress.
My Capital is eternally bombed and I invaded north while everyone else is distracted fighting Satsuma.
10/10
Ryoma Sakamoto, a man instrumental to successfully ending the Boshin War without excessive bloodshed.
Creative Assembly: meh, let's make him some average general.
Great Content as usual!
yeah, he was a greatest man of that time for japan and he is still praised and famous :< sad he is just a generic general in this game...well game also doesnt even have date masamune scripted, or yoshitsune is nothing of ordinary too. id really like to see shogun 3 with more...heroic themes? like 3K is planning, would be pretty cool.
To be fair, every general in this game is a generic general, that's just a game mechanic. It'd be a bit weird if they took one or two generals and made them absolutely OP. That said, they could've given him a special trait at least.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP not make op, but i dunno, some lore info and speical trait/events would be nice. for immersion purpose.
Quite surprised with his background they didn’t at least give him an artillery bonus
draconianwarking dude. What.
At least he made two bitter enemies allies.
Choshu and Satsuma would have been at each others throats had it not been for him.
A trick about conquering entire Shikoku island without taking diplomatic penalty for attacking Allied is to send your Geisha up north to discover Sainuki and then Declare war on him on turn one. This will forced your Allied to join in this war. It sound stupid but it really isn't because Sainuki initially has no adjacent border to Tosa, thus the only viable target for them is your Allied. Regardless of who win, they should be weakened enough that after you finished off Iyo you can immediately smack them despite having 2 vs 2 provinces.
Most of the time Sainuki win though, which saved you the hassle of diplomatic penalty.
Oooh, that is a good suggestion, I’ll give you a heart for that so others will know too.
I find that the two clans usually attack each other anyway, but maybe there is something to be said about killing them early.
The fastest possible way to conquer Shikoku is to always send around a fleet with an army to attack the enemy in the back while simultaneously attacking him with a land army prompting him to leave the capital allowing you to destroy his clan. You can also use this to take advantage of a clan attacking your ally or your ally betraying you. Getting rid of your fleet is a noob move cause the naval bombardment with its extended range allows you to take enemy castles with tiny armies so you can take over the whole island literally without stopping for a single turn. I've done it twice myself on legendary.
@@daniellanyi8287 Very true, I would do the same way too, more than losing or wasting another army or agents better. Save resources...
Mainly leaving this comment for myself, but I've tried this strategy three times now and each time, Sanuki kills your ally by about turn 3-5. This is a far better option than them declaring war later, because then your ally might win and then you'd have to deal with betraying them or using agent shenanigans. Also, if you don't declare war on them the first turn, for some reason they declare war on the Saga, who then in turn sail a giant death ball into their region and snatch it out from under your nose. machaiping is definitely correct, declaring war on turn 1 is much better than the alternative.
Hey anyone interested in a Victorian era style total war set in FOTS? I am working on a mod right now. Let me know if you're interested. I was a little concerned there was no more audience for Shogun 2 but turns out there's a lot. Progress is at 70% so far. I am currently working on a more expanded republic system.
Jake4595 I’m definitely interested
Dude post the alpha! that'd be wicked.
How does the audio work? Do the British speak Japanese?
After it went free quite a few months ago, I'd say there is a significant playerbase.
Yeah man we would be intrested
the naval bombardment range increase makes tosa the most broken clan in the campaign. General retinue and skill can further increase the range by 3, making the ships more like ICBM's.
0/10. No loungey jazz at the end
Here's an alternative to tosa expansion route, it works on all difficulties, put all your unit in your boats turn one and sail to nagoya in middle of japan, they have very few units at the start so its an rather easy fight to take a province with very fertile soil and blacksmith, as for your main province just let enemy or rebels take it. Nagoya also have very defensive port since you only need to block the small strait with one single navy, so you don't spend your entire middle game getting bombarded and wasting money on repairs.
I took that one step further and shipped everyone up to Hokkaido and took that over. The difficult part is keeping Tosa alive for the time it takes you to sail all the way up north.
Is Tosa related to Chosokabe? Like are they the descendants similar to how Sendai are to Date and Satsuma to Shimazu?
Don't think so, the Chosokabe clan ended militarily and politically in 1615, after which the Yamauchi clan was given control of Tosa Province because of their loyalty to the Tokugawa dynasty, the rest of the tidbit that led to them being an Imperial clan can be read during the clan traits section: 0:22
The Yamauchi clan who rule the Tosa Domain in FOTS appear in the base Shogun 2 campaign as a minor clan and a puppet of the Uesugi.
You should reconsider tosa riflemen, i think it's the best autoresolve unit, in my campaign i won a lot of battles by losing something like 5% of my troops, same with sieges it's insane. i invaded several cities with 6 tosa riflemen and 3 armstrong cannons, no general.
I must precise they were fully upgraded and have something like 100 precision, if not more.
I wish the Tosa had a nicer headgear, it's the only reason I've never played them.
From what I have heard the reason why Tosa has the red head piece is a tool for intimidation. They would wear the red head piece to unnerve or discourage enemies. Back in the day people with red hair were considered demons or monsters. I think it was the same for blondes.
@@paleface171 Seems like it works considering how I kept my distance.
One day, one day I will play them
@@paleface171 The red wig shown here were worn by Tosa Officers and the elite "Jinshotai" (lit. Swift Thrust Corps), the only group who were able to almost annihilate the feared Shogitai in Ueno (i.e. Mission 3 of the FOTS Campaign).
@@paleface171 There is also a legend that the red headwear was inspired by the intimidating-looking red-haired Dutch in Nagasaki.
@@TrinityShoji Thats true, the red wig (Shaguma) were inspired by the English captain, navigator & shipbuilder Will Adams - Who rode the Dutch ship & came to Japan, during the Warring State & the meeting of Tokugawa Ieyasu. Thats why they have a statue of him in his honor. Not only that shows fear. Its also represents the domain they came from. The white wig (Haguma) of the Choshu domain & the Black wig (Koguma) of the Satsuma domain.
These uploads make me happy
Ryoma sakamoto shoul have been an Ishin Shishi. And a legendary one with the best traits
Tosa Riflemen have them breech-loading guns explains the fast reload....恥知らずのディスプレイ
My early toughest decision during Tosa campaing is always attacking Satsuma because they can also follow the Emperor,then i remember that the blacksmith is there and is blitzkrieg time!
I played Tosa once and Saga twice. In all occasions your partner, Satsuma, conquers most of Kyushu and then switches sides to Shogunate. Be wary of that.
Great job man, i've been waiting for Tosa overview. BTW Tosa riflemen are strong enough to replace line infantry with them, and they still do their job.
Finally someone did something about Shogun 2! Love this total war, one of my favourite.
MrSmartDonkey has been doing Shogun 2 for years now, he's the main force for Shogun 2 in the community I'd say.
One of my favorite clans, aside from the Jozai whose guerrilla tactics and superior light infantry give me many great options during the campaign. With the Tosa, I have some of the best ships in Fall of the Samurai, am able to control an entire island from which I can than secure further resources from the mainland, and conduct seafaring hit-and-run assaults against their opponents makes them a deadly force to be reckoned with.
You know, I completed a Tosa Rifleman only challenge not too long ago and I have to say, in Auto Resolve, Tosa Rifleman are outright broken. It wasn't uncommon for me to have a group of five Tosa Riflemen with some experience obliterate two or three full stacks with only a handful of casualties. The only time this started to not be a thing is when the higher accuracy and higher fire rate Imperial and Shogunate Infantry began showing up, but by that point, my Tosa Riflemen had conquered 2/3's of all Japan as a republic
The Tosa probably get the best deal when it comes to unique units in FoTS as both of them are extremely useful and practical.
Red Bears are much more useful that Black and White Bears as the Reds only need a level 2 modern recruitment building making them great as an intermediary between Line infantry and SIR infantry.
Tosa Riflemen are a massive upgrade over generic Sharpshooters, they share the same recruitment building and have no recruitment cap, making them a staple of your armies and useful well into the campaigns late game.
Autoresolve also really, and I mean REALLY, likes Tosa Riflemen. Like if you outfit an army with like 3-4 armstrong guns and fillout the rest of the army with TR, you can beat anything in autoresolve, it is ridiculous.
Yay, New Clan overview
Please go Republic as Tosa.
oddly enough the Tosa Riflemen have Spencer Carbines which are lever guns that hold 7 shots idk whether research wasn't done or it was just a balance decision
Feel like its 5 years too late but why is one of the provinces just called the derogatory term to refer to a female dog
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
What's your opinion on "kachi" troops?
1, YAY! A New Video from MrSmartDonkeyLP :)
2, I'm trying to remember, there's this one sound effect in the game that sounds like "TOU! SAH!" as if doing some sort of polearm drill. I might be misremembering what it sounds like, but I think I've heard something similar elsewhere...
lol nice to see a man of culture, i too favor the revolver cav
After this clan overview u maybe do tosa as campaing or ranged only if u didnt done that love u keep the great work
I accidently built something exactly like this army.
And that Saga&Coshu converted to shogunate naval invades.
What is the difference between fighting for the shogun or the emperor. I understand the boshin war was fought mainly due to western influence. That it was the shogun who opened the doors to japan, and wanted to westernize, where as the emperor wanted to preserve Japanese traditions, while modernizing. But in the game dose it make any difference at all who you side with? Do you get any specific buffs for supporting either or?
Shogunate and Empire have some unique units and their police agent is different depending of the alligance. Btw tradition vs modernity wiev of the Boshin war is veeery flawed. At this point, every top person in the Japan wantd to modernise and seeked contenct with western world.
@@konradpiotrpaszkowski631 Im somewhat familiar with the Boshin war. I'm pretty sure the game got the conflict backwards. The shogun wanted to modernize the country, while the emperor wanted to keep it traditional. It was only toward the end of the conflict did the emperor realize if Japan is to survive it must modernize. However the Emperor was very dead set on preserving Japanese cultural traditions, while also centralizing the government. Which is why Japan today is still very culturally and socially traditional. I think the game failed to capture that, as at the heart of the conflict was the rejection vs acceptance of western culture and customs. The samurai also played a large role in the conflict fearing that they would become irrelevant, and loose their place in Japanese society, which was a place of prominence and respect. They of course did loose their relevance and place in Japanese society.
can you do Nagaoka next?
What is nagako? 0_o
Amazing game. Can't believe it's been 7 years...
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A Tosa playthrough would be great! If Tosa riflemen have no recruitment cap then wouldn't it be almost straightforward better than Yugekitai?
Tosa playthrough is the next Fall of the Samurai campaign to come to the channel, not too worry!
I don't think the Tosa Riflemen have a unit cap, I might be wrong though.
Tsu and Chosus next man!
I usally beeline as soon as I can (after capturing Ozu) the blacksmith in Bizen on the mainland to the north whit the aim to turning it into a gunsmith as soon as possible and building the
Artillery Academy, Firing Range and Barracks +35 accuracy).
and just crank out Tosa Riflemen and armstrong guns (both whit the gunsmith and target range having almost 100 in accuracy as level 1 recruits).
also one thing that was mention is that there is no limit on the Tosa Riflemen you can recruit.
Choshu overview !!!
Hi! As you mension in every video in totalwar shogun 2 there is one best army composition for the vanilla game and the dlcs. But what are these in your opinion?
Just for Fall of the Samurai, it's pretty straight forward. A General, 4 Revolver Cav, 2-4 Armstrong Guns, and the rest whatever the best line infantry is you can build at that time.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP Thank you! ☺
Well, now this list is back. I'm excited to start a new playthrough! Thanks Donkey
It came back last week when I did the Aizu overview. :D
Great video!
So.... what is the most effective army?
General, 3-4 Armstrong Guns, 4 Revolver or Carbine Cav, your preference, the rest the best line infantry you've got.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP Holy TYSM. I just wanted to say I love ur content and your voice is so smoothing ;)
3:54 What is the one lane map called?
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