You forgot to mention (and the salesman did too) that the front indicators are now incorporated into the headlights. That's an easy way to spot the new model.
@WFO. Unfortunately you will need all the luck in the world to get an allocation for a Touring unless they class you as a very “special” customer and previous serial buyer.
They are expensive, but there is a market. I don't want one of these, though. I feel there are other options with greater performance for close to or the same price.
Heavy cross examination to discover that somebody who buys a new 911 wants all the neighbours to know what they bought!! That’s the miracle, the engineers pack in heaps of improvements but it’s still my granddads 911.
I like the new front. In our country we have smaller number plates 😅. I own a 992.1 and already the testdrove the new one. The base is essentially the same car. I did notice though that the turbos actually have little mor lag, almost like the 992.1 Carrera S, which is not positiv. Maybe this is due to the larger turbos. It engine sounds better on the predecessor. I don‘t care much about the new cabin details and the digital dashboard but I think it makes the car more generic and less special. I don‘t like the policy of Porsche to save some cents that way in such an expensive car. Long story short: I prefer the 992.1.
I rented a .1c2s from our local dealer in anticipation of ordering a .2c. The 450hp in c2s seemed about perfectly balanced for the car, I’m curious how the 60hp less in .2c feels or whether Porsche is sand bagging given it is same mechanically. I know we all assume the cluster is cost cutting, but putting nav on left of rev counter was totally useless as the wheel blocked the position indicator on the map. Given we’re heading into an all hybrid/ev 911 range, it’s made the base Carrera even more appealing. I might wait to see what else gets released over next couple months, but leaning towards a c2 rwd with no chassis options other than lift for a more pure driving experience - I’m also limited by need to have rear seats and top tethers with a toddler
Yes you are right...on the .1 the digital displays either side of the rev counter are often blocked by the steering wheel depending on your driving position. Sounds like a nearly new .1c2s might suit you better if you are not interested in hybrid (and save £30k)? In our experience axle lift is very rarely needed. The clearance is good - unless you’ve got an extremely steep driveway
Loved the review, not sure about the car. I had one a couple of weeks ago over the weekend whilst my Boxster 4.0 manual was in for its first service. I really wanted to like the car and it does look ace, but being an automatic, stuck in slow traffic on the autobahn I got the feeling that I might as well be in my BMW g31 530d. My dislikes were - no key, only auto available, and it's a bit too big and doesn't have the sports car feeling that my Boxster has.
All the reviews I’ve watched and not one has mentioned the grill and stones at the front . That’s a worry for sure . Nobody else noticed on any reviews
I do believe I’ll hang onto my 2023 992.1……an absolutely brilliant car and I think it may be the absolute pinnacle of the 911’s historic life. Electric add-on’s are slowly creeping into the design……and the blood-letting of the pure fire breathing boxer engines has begun. How sad. 😢
I have been in the market for two years. I had to decide to buy or wait. I am glad I waited the new digital gauge cluster allows me to see more of the gauges than the outgoing model, I can’t tell if its faster as I only have 400 miles on the base model. The starter doesn’t mater to me as it’s something I interact with for a moment. I do like the upgraded headlamps. I bought in hopes of owning one of the last pure Porsches that doesn’t have any electric or hybrid technology, that’s what my Teslas for. Bose system sounds good, rides wonderful on base wheels. PDK is amazing.
Owned 5 Porsches. Latest was a new 992.1 S from Porsche South London 6 factory faults. Now I don’t trust Porsche build quality. Wanted a new 992.2 GTS but reluctant with quality issues. 😮 1-Failed Bose speakers. 2-micro switches in door handles failed , 3 -door handles peeled off , 4-rear centre light cluster cracked from the inside. 5-Rear both left and right brake units replaced water ingress. 6-Cracked gear lever. Lastly the drivers seat leather was substandard and aged to quickly and I’m only 88 kilo
I really do like that classic Porsche design andnthe car is lovely but it's not worth that price lol. I'd rather buy an M4 COMPETITION which would absolutely obliterate that 911 in ALL AREAS.
@will_kennedy2If you ever can, try and drive one. Then afterwards come back to this comments section and tell me your thoughts. I promise you will be blown away! In the flesh and also when driving it, the M4 Comp has huge wow factor, I promise you 👍🏽
@888_Karma i currently have an m3 comp and have a carrera S on order. im looking forward to the superior dynamics of the porsche, though my m3 is such a joy to own and it has everything you need.
Straight up question would paying £130k with options for a new 992.2 be your choice or a second hand turbo S for around £150k. I have looked at the 992.2 and it came in at just over £130, I’ve seen a turbo s 992 on a 23 plate, 2 previous owners and under 4k mileage for £150k so £20k more it just seems to scream buy the later. Whats your view?
There would have to be a drastic swing in consumer demands for the non sunroof cars to be worth more. As it stands its one of the most sought after options (excluding pre 997 models)
The price bumps Porsche has been doing really kills the worth it factor. It's great but is it x2 the fun of a M3? Or even 50% more? If you're tracking you're getting a gt3 or modding the heck out of the M3 anyways
@anotheran since when is a 911 a sensible value car. The Porsche company just want to keep it out of reach of hairdressers and people who have to borrow money to own one. They do very careful market research before setting their prices, to keep it aspirational.
We will hopefully have our hands on one in the next few weeks. We will definitely be reviewing it on here so please SUBSCRIBE. We also have the new Macan EV video out new week.
Thanks for the reply Do you know when people will get there hands on it. Is it before 2025? Because my friend ordered one and he really wants to know if he’ll receive it before 2025
I think 911's these days are just too easy to drive and live with. They are very good but I actually think they are a tad boring. Ive had 2x 718 Boxsters and a 718 Cayman which I actually preferred. I may very well be in the minority
Is it worth the price? If you don t think it is, get yourself an M3 or a C8 or whatever makes you feel smart. There are no shortage of people buying the 911s of all trims.
I DONT TRUST THESE NEW HYBRID MOTORS. Id rather a 992 or before. We really don't know what these hybrid motors will do for value over time. And for individuals who think depreciate doesn't matter it DOES and a major reason why people still buy 911s
@will_kennedy2 Well, I must admit that I just bought the 2025 Porsche Taycan for $140k, but they are definitely overpriced. I had Tesla Model S before this. Aston Martin Vantage is another of my favorites.
@will_kennedy2 I don't know anyone who has bought an EV through a business for tax purposes because if we buy an new EV as individuals, we get a $7,500 tax cut anyway---IF the EV was manufactured in the U.S. This is another reason that Porsche is more expensive; we don't get the tax cut. Tesla owners and others do.
130K plus for a basic 911 with options. That's a lot of money. I wonder how much S or 4S will be when it comes out. There's a brand new 992.1 S4 for 120K from Porsche UK dealer. Better buy than the new 992.2 for sure
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All of a sudden the 992.1 seems like great value😂
Honestly it’s a great time to buy a 911 992.1. You can get so much for your money
But Porsche doesn’t allow you to place order for 992.1. How are you supposed to order ?
@odiatokaused
That number plate and no mesh on lower grill 😮.
You forgot to mention (and the salesman did too) that the front indicators are now incorporated into the headlights. That's an easy way to spot the new model.
Love the no-nonsense attitude, especially when you're looking to spend that kind of money. Enjoyed the analysis, mate.
Thank you mate, we’ve got loads more videos in the pipeline!
I think the 992.1 is a better buy. Analogue dash, no intrusive nannying software to be disabled every single time.
Yeah I agree, especially seeing the price you can pick up a decent 992.1 for now
Front lights integration is cost cutting
Great video...a very enjoyable watch.
Glad you enjoyed it
Grateful I got my ‘24 911 992.1 GTS with the manual transmission and rear steering
Ooffff what a beast. Would you consider getting the 992.9 GTS when it comes out?
@will_kennedy2 Thanks. Hoping to get an allocation for a GT3 Touring or a Turbo S.
@WFO. The 992.1 Turbo S is one of the best things I've ever driven so I hope you get one of them!
@WFO. Unfortunately you will need all the luck in the world to get an allocation for a Touring unless they class you as a very “special” customer and previous serial buyer.
Porsche prices are like Rolex, go up more than inflation every year.
see you in March.
I think the new lights are sick, still very good review!
Yeah I’d say they’re the biggest upgrade, more refined 👌
you are so correct - hard to understand why they do not fit a mesh to protect the radiators this is a real issue
Seems an obvious solution. Thanks for watching
I ordered 992.2 after watched video.
Thanks!
it'll never sell and those who will buy it will experience gargantuan depreciation.
Great video 👍
Thank you 🙏
They are expensive, but there is a market. I don't want one of these, though. I feel there are other options with greater performance for close to or the same price.
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Love the base model 911 - less is more. Need some stone guards put in though. Love this spec.
You have a valid point
Heavy cross examination to discover that somebody who buys a new 911 wants all the neighbours to know what they bought!! That’s the miracle, the engineers pack in heaps of improvements but it’s still my granddads 911.
If it isn't broke don't fix it....maybe
Was it quieter? Seems road noise is a complaint of the 992.1.
I like the new front. In our country we have smaller number plates 😅. I own a 992.1 and already the testdrove the new one. The base is essentially the same car. I did notice though that the turbos actually have little mor lag, almost like the 992.1 Carrera S, which is not positiv. Maybe this is due to the larger turbos. It engine sounds better on the predecessor. I don‘t care much about the new cabin details and the digital dashboard but I think it makes the car more generic and less special. I don‘t like the policy of Porsche to save some cents that way in such an expensive car. Long story short: I prefer the 992.1.
If you want zero lag then try the new GTS.
Forcing keyless entry and an all digital dash is a very bad move for Porsche.
I feel like Porsche and others are hiding the 15K euro penalty kicking in this year for not meeting their EV targets.
Do you think something will come out like what happened with VW?
It's not a new model, It's just a facelift.
Great video
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@will_kennedy2 Done brother
I rented a .1c2s from our local dealer in anticipation of ordering a .2c. The 450hp in c2s seemed about perfectly balanced for the car, I’m curious how the 60hp less in .2c feels or whether Porsche is sand bagging given it is same mechanically. I know we all assume the cluster is cost cutting, but putting nav on left of rev counter was totally useless as the wheel blocked the position indicator on the map. Given we’re heading into an all hybrid/ev 911 range, it’s made the base Carrera even more appealing. I might wait to see what else gets released over next couple months, but leaning towards a c2 rwd with no chassis options other than lift for a more pure driving experience - I’m also limited by need to have rear seats and top tethers with a toddler
Yes you are right...on the .1 the digital displays either side of the rev counter are often blocked by the steering wheel depending on your driving position.
Sounds like a nearly new .1c2s might suit you better if you are not interested in hybrid (and save £30k)?
In our experience axle lift is very rarely needed. The clearance is good - unless you’ve got an extremely steep driveway
I think the new GTS Will make it all worth it
Im hoping to collect the new EV Macan today!!! Been delayed a few weeks due to a software fault 🙈
Cant wait to get our hands on one of these!
@will_kennedy2 I didn't pick it up yesterday! Not ready until next week now 😫
Loved the review, not sure about the car. I had one a couple of weeks ago over the weekend whilst my Boxster 4.0 manual was in for its first service. I really wanted to like the car and it does look ace, but being an automatic, stuck in slow traffic on the autobahn I got the feeling that I might as well be in my BMW g31 530d. My dislikes were - no key, only auto available, and it's a bit too big and doesn't have the sports car feeling that my Boxster has.
Fair points - thanks for your comment 🙏
Hey Warford, no sense in acting like a blooming jerk, the dealership won’t show you the GTS, which is the t-hybrid because they do not have one.
Hey Arnold, you are right they don’t. Do you think the new Carrera is worth the price increase?
All the reviews I’ve watched and not one has mentioned the grill and stones at the front . That’s a worry for sure . Nobody else noticed on any reviews
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Is it exclusive wheels painted in satin dark silver? or standard?
Standard. The code off the spec sheet is 59D
It IS NOT Bur My Ster!
Hahaha what is it then?
I do believe I’ll hang onto my 2023 992.1……an absolutely brilliant car and I think it may be the absolute pinnacle of the 911’s historic life.
Electric add-on’s are slowly creeping into the design……and the blood-letting of the pure fire breathing boxer engines has begun.
How sad. 😢
Bob...I have to agree with you here. The 997 is also one of my favourites for a pure driving experience
man I couldn't tell if you were unimpressed or just flat out didn't like the car 😂
The drive is fantastic, just a few niggles
@will_kennedy2 you can't say that
This guy is annoying 👀
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
What is Porsche thinking with the hideous new wheel design?
They look a bit too ‘EV’ dont they. The RS Spyder are one of the nicest
Was the key really a key?
Yes, same key as pre face lift
I honestly could not imagine them improving the design of the 992 gen, since i always thought they nailed it. Yet here we are...
Do you like that they’ve moved to a digital rev counter and a push button start? I think it takes away from the heritage of the 911
@will_kennedy2 yeah i dont like these new features, but the exterior and interior design are glorious!
I have been in the market for two years. I had to decide to buy or wait. I am glad I waited the new digital gauge cluster allows me to see more of the gauges than the outgoing model, I can’t tell if its faster as I only have 400 miles on the base model. The starter doesn’t mater to me as it’s something I interact with for a moment. I do like the upgraded headlamps. I bought in hopes of owning one of the last pure Porsches that doesn’t have any electric or hybrid technology, that’s what my Teslas for. Bose system sounds good, rides wonderful on base wheels. PDK is amazing.
Wireless charging is a nice upgrade
@jamespaul1835congratulations. It is an incredible car. Enjoy
2024 and they only just got a push button start?? Is this Porsche's answer to the iPhone 16?
Ahah yeah they’re finally getting with the times
You say that like its a good thing? i want the classic twist ignition back.
@florian6808 I wish they kept it and the analogue rev counter
The 992 is a horror story of black, too many screens and the obnoxious turbo six. 991 NA models are peak Porsche.
It's out 6 worth the HELL NO!! NOT even a few years ago before they raised the MSR by 30 to 60k.. But off you want a993... We have co choice
I am not quite sure what this means but thanks for viewing
Owned 5 Porsches. Latest was a new 992.1 S from Porsche South London 6 factory faults.
Now I don’t trust Porsche build quality. Wanted a new 992.2 GTS but reluctant with quality issues. 😮
1-Failed Bose speakers.
2-micro switches in door handles failed ,
3 -door handles peeled off ,
4-rear centre light cluster cracked from the inside.
5-Rear both left and right brake units replaced water ingress.
6-Cracked gear lever.
Lastly the drivers seat leather was substandard and aged to quickly and I’m only 88 kilo
The headlgiths are the same as before??? This guy cant even tell a difference between 997 and 992
What’s a 997?
I really do like that classic Porsche design andnthe car is lovely but it's not worth that price lol. I'd rather buy an M4 COMPETITION which would absolutely obliterate that 911 in ALL AREAS.
M4 comp if definitely more practical but I don’t know if it has the same wow factor
@will_kennedy2If you ever can, try and drive one. Then afterwards come back to this comments section and tell me your thoughts. I promise you will be blown away! In the flesh and also when driving it, the M4 Comp has huge wow factor, I promise you 👍🏽
@888_Karma i currently have an m3 comp and have a carrera S on order. im looking forward to the superior dynamics of the porsche, though my m3 is such a joy to own and it has everything you need.
Straight up question would paying £130k with options for a new 992.2 be your choice or a second hand turbo S for around £150k.
I have looked at the 992.2 and it came in at just over £130, I’ve seen a turbo s 992 on a 23 plate, 2 previous owners and under 4k mileage for £150k so £20k more it just seems to scream buy the later.
Whats your view?
Higher spec 992.1 would be my advice
@ I never though of that makes sense since they’ll likely be better value now so the extras can be boosted up.
Sunroof or Panoramic, no thanks. Id rather have the std or the Carbon roof. Values of non sunroof cars will always be higher down the line.
There would have to be a drastic swing in consumer demands for the non sunroof cars to be worth more. As it stands its one of the most sought after options (excluding pre 997 models)
Exposed radiator grill. 🤦♂Whomever is selling mesh grills will be making a killing!!
Tell me about it, they know they’re having to be replaced regularly
Yes but then if you fit them you lose your official UK Porsche warranty, absolute madness!!
There must be someone designing a grill that you can easily fit and remove when it goes into the dealer...
@hpman911 That's insane. Someone needs to lawyer up and get these radiators added as a replaceable warranty item then.
@hpman911 I got mine from Zunsport for my 991. But there's also our independent porsche service guy that will do one for $30.
You'd thank a Porsche salesman could pronounce, 'Thai-Khan', correctly.
The price bumps Porsche has been doing really kills the worth it factor. It's great but is it x2 the fun of a M3? Or even 50% more? If you're tracking you're getting a gt3 or modding the heck out of the M3 anyways
Couldn’t agree more. There’s some stunning cars available for what you can buy a 992.2 Carrera for
@anotheran since when is a 911 a sensible value car. The Porsche company just want to keep it out of reach of hairdressers and people who have to borrow money to own one. They do very careful market research before setting their prices, to keep it aspirational.
When is the gts 2025 coming then?
We will hopefully have our hands on one in the next few weeks. We will definitely be reviewing it on here so please SUBSCRIBE. We also have the new Macan EV video out new week.
Thanks for the reply
Do you know when people will get there hands on it. Is it before 2025? Because my friend ordered one and he really wants to know if he’ll receive it before 2025
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I think 911's these days are just too easy to drive and live with.
They are very good but I actually think they are a tad boring.
Ive had 2x 718 Boxsters and a 718 Cayman which I actually preferred.
I may very well be in the minority
Fair point
Is it worth the price? If you don t think it is, get yourself an M3 or a C8 or whatever makes you feel smart. There are no shortage of people buying the 911s of all trims.
you lame
I DONT TRUST THESE NEW HYBRID MOTORS. Id rather a 992 or before. We really don't know what these hybrid motors will do for value over time. And for individuals who think depreciate doesn't matter it DOES and a major reason why people still buy 911s
Please stop hyping those ugly glass roofs on 911s. This car, more than any other sports car, looks best with no glass or regular sunroofs.
I HONESTLY don't think any Porsche is worth the price even though they are among the best fun-to-drive cars in the world.
They are a lot of money. What would you have with £100k budget?
@will_kennedy2 Well, I must admit that I just bought the 2025 Porsche Taycan for $140k, but they are definitely overpriced. I had Tesla Model S before this. Aston Martin Vantage is another of my favorites.
@deanbushlooking forward to getting in the new Vantage…have you seen the price of those though - £200k with spec!!
@deanbushI’m guessing you are in America? Does everyone there buy their EV’s though a business for tax benefits?
@will_kennedy2 I don't know anyone who has bought an EV through a business for tax purposes because if we buy an new EV as individuals, we get a $7,500 tax cut anyway---IF the EV was manufactured in the U.S. This is another reason that Porsche is more expensive; we don't get the tax cut. Tesla owners and others do.
130K plus for a basic 911 with options.
That's a lot of money.
I wonder how much S or 4S will be when it comes out.
There's a brand new 992.1 S4 for 120K from Porsche UK dealer.
Better buy than the new 992.2 for sure
I would agree
Is it me or is the interior of the 911 evolving to an Audi?