Though I understand how it’s terrifying to think about- comments like these always throw me off because what else would you expect?! People won’t walk around screaming they committed murder.
The fact his house hasn’t changed much since he was a child means he holds onto the past and collects memories. No doubt he has souvenirs from his victims. He doesn’t look like the cleanest person either so there’s bound to be DNA evidence in there
He seemed to be proud of his crimes but thought of his victims as unworthy, beneath him. Would he keep items from them if he devalued them as people so much. I wonder if his trophies were more along the lines of newspaper articles and the like. I don't really understand his motive for doing this other than he liked to kill women that he considered disposable and easy targets.
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140 That makes a lot of sense. I still don't understand why a big man like him would feel powerful killing a small female SW. He's pathetic.
THANK YOU for mentioning all 11 potential victims of Heurerman. I understand the thinking for mentioning only the so-called Gilgo 4 but those poor families of the others. Thank your for acknowledging these other people. And they were people, regardless of where their journeys may have taken them
Yes!! ❤It doesn’t matter what they worked in. At All. The only thing about the line of work they were in is that is so much more incredibly dangerous and put them unnecessarily in harms way much more.
@@marciavieira702I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s accountable for many more murders at this point. He’s been “free” for a very long time. Haunting to think about it.
@@marciavieira702 ...perhaps even in another country. I never thought I'd repeat this overworked & over-wrought cliché but this man is: "...a mystery wrapped in an enigma". The dimensional barrier must be very, very thin near Massapequa Park, LI. Try reading H.P. Lovecraft or Stephen King & you'll better understand my comment.
Love the Prof! Makes me feel like I'm back at law school with everyone's favorite teacher. He has an amazing knack for explaining things in plain language.
Dear Mr. Weber, I’m a 73 year old former Brooklynite and so happy that an arrest has been finally been made in this case! Good overview of this case by you and your knowledgeable law professor! I always enjoy your sidebar videos!
He’s 59 years old and becomes a serial killer 13 years ago (46), my bet is he’s killed before you dont start becoming a serial killer at 46, he’s killed long before that I think…
@@torpedodropkick59 a just cannot see him starting to kill at that age 46, the way he’s dumped the bodies and they Havent been found for long time tells me he’s done this before, he’s been careful all this time then suddenly he’s made mistakes that’s why he got caught, a bet we find he’s killed before,
He started as a teen. That's when he was at Gilgo beach. He has over 200 illegal firearms and his brother who served jail for involuntary manslaughter has a massive isolated property for hunting, where they were supposed to move together. I'm gonna say he killed hundreds and took them there for a depraved game with those firearms
I could listen to Professor Jules Epstein for hours, love how clear each explanation is and the fact that he does research for the interview to better inform us, also love Jesse Weber as a host for letting the interviewee talk and show their knowledge.
As a retired police officer/investigator it's refreshing for a guest to have real background, qualifications and valid opinions on a case, it's so unusual today. Excellent comments and analogies. From my career, serving many search warrants it looks like the suspect hired movers. I've never seen so much "stuff" coming out of a house for a homicide investigation they'll need a warehouse or a big garage to store all of it. And you'd better have a small army of DNA examiners to work all of it. Ask any retired homicide cop for comment, this search is on steroids.
@@Juke582 seriously Juke? What's your problem? Better yet, what's your laughable point? Oh! You watch very qualified experienced brilliant retired investigators on YT on true crime pages!!! Did it ever occur to your ignorant brain that maybe Gary doesn't watch the same channels that you do? Quit judging honey. You are not amusing.
I work with the Suffolk County crime lab as a crime scene technician and his house was FULL of guns, an entire room full of guns. Hundreds, I mean they will be performing test shoots for the next year. We basically took everything in the house.
More than two hundred firearms were in his home, and forty phones. His wife must be afraid to discuss finances alone. If each weapon was purchased for three hundred dollars, a steal, that’s sixty thousand dollars. Surely she wants a maid, a handyman, a housepainter, from the looks of her home. And what’s with a special dedicated room that no one but him has access to enter? Hello Mr. Respected Architect, your home is ready for condemnation. In the words of Betty Davis, “what a dump!”
Nice to see humility in these comments. Just finished a thread of the craziest, wildly speculative stuff ever. Listening to folks who know about jurisprudence and law enforcement will help us all make better sense of this madness. Take care.
I remember reading A to Z of serial killers, I got to the M's, and I just couldn't read anymore, it started to mess with my thoughts. For the people that speak for the dead, god bless your souls.
59 years old.. This just bothers me and makes me sick. To think he's almost 60 years old. Just how long has he been committing these crimes against women? Just how many unsolved murders are there? Just how many Mother's and Father's are waiting for answers or waiting for their daughters to be found? Dang!! To really think about this deeply it is mind blowing.. What are the odds that he started before 2013, 2012, even before 2007 as I've heard mentioned before somewhere? And Rex isn't going to give up more information even if he knows already he's guilty and there's proof.
We know he’s been at it since at least 1993/1994 cause one of the two victims they just indicted him on remains were found in 93/94. I suspect he’s been at it since at least late 80s like 88-89.
I think the guy ought to be charged with a crime for the way his house looks. He is supposed to be an architect and yet he's using 2x4s to shim up the roof of the front porch.
He's an architect not a construction worker? Like don't most of them sit around drafting out floor plans/playing on the computer/making phone calls etc..
@@melaninmonroeeee he said maybe after one year maybe not so much after two … paraphrasing when referring to evidence of some kind in the home of the kills. Completely 100% discounting them as if SK’s aren’t known specifically for collecting trophies
@@nadagabri5783 lol , nah you need to rewatch it again . He was talking about certain items when he said. After he said that , he specifically said that if they are trophies its obviously much longer, if not forever …
He’s a hoarder. He keeps things as memories of what he did and where he did it. Willing to bet he kept momentos and personal items from the victims to keep their memories alive in his mind. He was curious to see if investigators were getting close to him by performing those searches online. It appears he was still active and poised to kill again when the investigators were forced to arrest him. His uncontrollable appetite for these women of smaller stature seemed to satisfy his craving for control. The rage he must have inside his head has obviously been there all his life after events or violence he witnessed growing up. Thank God he was finally apprehended or we’d be reading about and seeing another victim plastered across the news channels. Bless the families of the victims and the investigators who painstakingly dedicated themselves to watching this monster in 2022 and putting him behind bars in 2023.
As soon as these poor girls were found, this serial killer, just found another dump site!! A serial killer does not suddenly stop killing unless they are dead or in prison. The FBI need to look into other missing girls to see if he had any contact with them.
It really looks like he had a hard time parting with anything, with the amount of trash the evidence team is carrying out of there. Borderline hoarding situation. Poor wife, kids and kitty!
I wonder if the Wife will work with the police for more details about timelines or anything like that. I sure hope she does. I know she filed for divorce so that's a good thing. She had to have noticed behaviors from him that weren't right. I watched the Ex SWs interview today and She had gone out to dinner with him, he freaked her out and she followed her instincts and wouldn't get in his car but He was obsessively speaking of the Gilgo murders. She said it was like his eyes glossed over and He was reliving the moment.
@@TheEwokExplorer I thought that too. Because I'm willing to bet he's Either abusive OR has abusive tendencies with her and I'm sure he's probably obsessively talked about the Gilgo murders.. and probably bragged to some extent or maybe even confided in her, Who knows. She can't be that Clueless.
She is definitely not standing by her man, which may indicate that the marriage was already rocky or perhaps suggests she already had suspicions. By divorcing him, she is no longer protected from testifying by spousal privilege. New York is not a community property state, so filing for divorce might be her way of protecting her assets from any wrongful death civil suits that arise. It might have been a wise move even if she doesn't believe the accusations.
Im starting to think the old former police cheif that was in charge of the FIRST investigation that miraculously looked over this guy when todays detectives are sayin it was BLATANTLY OBVIOUS...May mean the police cheif was in on it with the murderer. The police cheif was involved in some odd stuff apparently that was similar to the murderer. Curious to see if they were friends...
The one thing that is truly damaging is his wife's hair in between the duct tape used on a victim, which most likely happened at his home. Also, I have not heard reports of any other persons DNA found with the victims. That's very odd to me. I have a feeling they will find a victims DNA at his home
If he was in his 30s in 2011, many serial killers would have had victims before that age. He didn't just start in 2011. How many could there be and where?
I absolutely agree. Must be more. He is a HUNTER. A human female hunter. Didn't start "yesterday". He has a type, when and how did he acquire the type? At what age did he get distorted? Most importantly - WHERE has he traveled ? His travel records MUST be thoroughly researched, staring from a reasonable adult age.
He was 43 in 2007. There are still 7 more bodies to account for on that beach alone, starting from 1996. After they uncovered this site, I believe he chose another dump site. There could be countless women anywhere he's traveled.
Also, I don't think he kilked them by firearm. This was psychologically personal. He likely used his hands and belts, ties, strangulation, beating etc. Killing by firearm is not hands on and is too emotionally distant.
I read in some or another comment section (someone from Long Island) saying that after the murders happened and there was some sort of memorial (temporary) made for these beautiful young women, with flowers and cards etc. one day 3 really strange looking dolls had appeared on the site, placed very visibly and the look of the dolls were so odd that it was giving people the creeps and everyone was wondering if it was the killer who had left them there? Maybe the police/fbi is thinking this doll they found in the house (apparently the size of a small child, not a blow up doll or adult size) (there is a photo in some video with the doll being carried out from the house in a glass "cage") could shed some further light in to the case of the strange dolls left on the memorial all those years ago?? This case, i reckon will be expanding much further, and unfortunately i have a feeling there will be far more victims. R.I.P all victims.
He had a wife and daughter plus he had inherited the house from his parents. It's possible that the dolls were collected by one of his female family members and have nothing to do with him. But if there is some kind of link between the victims and these dolls, ex; he bought a doll that resembled a victim after he killed them, then that seems relevant to the case. That house looks like it's crammed full of stuff that no one has been able to part with.
@@onmywayto8083 Yes, his mom is still alive and in her 90's. I would imagine that a good amount of her stuff is still in that house, though. Hopefully, she is being shielded from this news because it's horrible.
Professional Jules Epstein does an excellent job of explaining the legal aspects of the collection of evidence, what is allowed, what may be allowed for special reasons and what is not allowed and how those things may difference during the period of the investigation and at the trial. His explanations were illuminating and revealed the complexities of the law both for the prosecutors and the lawyers defending the accused. The presentation was fascinating. I have my doubts about whether I would have ever made a good law but with all the recent murder cases I have learned so much about the law that is very interesting, very interesting. I always thought I might be bored if I had gone to law school but I now realize I would have eaten this up. And every case is unique. Thanks for sharing.
Having done some research into the family, it appears its not just Rex who's "odd" in the family lol. He has an older brother by just a few years who was charged with involuntary manslaughter for being drunk and driving that ended in him crashing into a property complex and instantly killing an individual who managed the complex. He was incarcerated for a couple of years for causing the death. They are both described as "the odd couple" by neighbors, as the older brother left New York and moved further south and purchased several acres of land to make into a large private compound live on. Rex Heurman was believed to be considering moving on the compound with his brother, particularly as it was reported he would be able to freely hunt on land unfettered....but knowing what we know now, it wouldn't surprise me if he was more interested in digging up his victims and moving them to be re buried in the brothers compound but thankfully he ran out of time to do so. And I strongly doubt he'd have ceased killing and would have undoubtedly found more victims and no doubt buried them on the large, isolated, sprawling ground in his brothers compound that maybe the brother was completely clueless as to the activities of his serial killing brother.... This arrest didn't come a day too soon.
Digging up a decomposed body from 10 years ago seems like a highy unlikely move. More like he was going to use the brothers land as a new dumping ground
@@RushinVr6 Detective Colombo above has no clue what he's talking about. He wrote he "did his research." I read a few news articles and learned that for myself.
Ya okay Colombo, digging up decomposed bodies that have rotted up, you're a genius. I read a few news articles and deduced for myself what you refer to as "research." I think you missed your true calling as an investigator.
We are not guaranteed a trial, in fact if this guy is confronted with all evidence they have on him through his lawyer, he may just plead guilty though when you see how this guy seems to crave attention, I doubt it
I wish they would actually look at the pictures that all the rest of us have already seen of the things they have taken out of the house such as the doll. For God's sake inform yourself before you try to talk about it on the news 🙄
Wow, Professor Epstein was such a great contributor to legal explanations and understanding for a lay person regarding this case. Thanks so much to him and to you for having him on!
He is an exceptional legal professor in a world where not all legal professors are ... exceptional. Law school is difficult enough -- getting stuck with a bad teacher is a punishment I'd wish on no one!
20:59 could that not be explained away in court by saying ‘well he lived right by the beach, he was just a concerned citizen following the case of the victims that were dumped right by his house’? Obviously most of us would be like ‘nah he’s a serious creeper and loving the coverage’ but logically it could be explained away by his defence?
Lifejacket. I grew up living right on the ocean, hence I was on the beach everyday. It was not unusual to see lost/abandoned life jackets on beaches, and sometimes high up on the shoreline due to hightides or storms. Could the life jacket have been found in the vicinity of where the victims were found? Could it be a "souvenir" of 'his' body deposit area? Just thinking out loud.
Sick that this monster was able to keep living his life for the last 13 years after all of the murders. Meanwhile, the victims lives were snuffed out by someone who chose to play God. They didn’t deserve such a horrific death 😢.
Great interview. Tho RE the cat and lifevest, keep in mind the bodies and murders this case is currently revolving around are the 13+ year old murders. BUT that doesn't mean there aren't more. This guy didn't stop murdering women. Those two specific items may very well have been taken to connect him to more recent and/or older murders.
i really hope this disgusting murderer has no clue how much attention he is now getting cause he has followed the case fervently and asked all kinds of people about it. How it took so long for this obvious creep to pop up on law enforcement’s radar is a mystery
Because the case was basically "shelved" by the previous Officer in charge, however you call it in the States. A new task force was put together finally a few yrs ago and here is the result.
The cops didn't look for him. When they did, it only took 6 weeks to find him. If there were any victims between 2010 and 2022, I hope the cops are never able to forget that.
He probably gets off on the attention. It took so long because of the corruption in the Suffolk County police department and the neighborhood didn’t want the media attention to lower their property values. Sick all around.
Always love your updates and love how clear Professor Epstein was with his explanation of collecting evidence ❤️you never fail to keep me focused throughout your interviews and updates Jessie Webber ❤
Jesse thank you so much for having Professor Epstein on your show. I've watched a lot of interviews/commentaries over the last week and this was hands down the best one that I have seen.
Awesome guest, an incredible teacher! This episode was very educational... it prompted discussion and critical thinking. The info about search warrant: all citizens should have awareness of laws
Does the "staleness" factor change if the wife or daughter tell prosecutors about potential items of interest? Or if the wife gives permission for a full search?
Ooooo. That’s a good point. Let’s hope her uncontested divorce lands her with the properties and she agrees to turn it all over to authorities for review…?
It looks like they are emptying his entire house! I saw a gumball machine in a clear trash bag so how is that evidence? I theorize that because his house is so cluttered, they are having to remove layers of stuff just to search. Any thoughts??
Escorts tend to be SA’d girls with low self esteem who are in survival mode. They deserve love just the same as and NEED love given to them even more than the average girl.
@@nowirehangers2815you should be a little more, shall we say, discerning in what you say. I'm sure no one has told you but a LOT of women have engaged in s3x work at least once in their lives, like something over 40%. We all know that should life go tits up, if you are still youngish and decent looking, that it is the last option. Women you would never expect have accepted cash for their company. As women we know this is much more common than men actually realize. What I'm trying to say is, you will never know if any woman you will ever be with once escorted or what have you. Because she isn't going to tell you. Just thought you should know.
New York is a Blue state . . . . . one of the biggest reasons NY has such a high murder rate. Seems to me if you promise to torture individuals in the town square bi weekly crime would sink like the Titanic ! But democrats need these things in order to stay relevant, apparently because if we all really wanted to , we could discourage at least half the 1st degree murders
Thank you 💛 for your report. This will be interesting to see how everything unfolds. I hope LE has all the evidence they need to win the Case and put him on death penalty.
the title of this video is: "5 Most Disturbing Pieces of Evidence Found in Alleged Serial Killer's Home." So, uh, - just wondering: are those 5 Most Disturbing Pieces of Evidence even ever mentioned in this video????
When the person found the hair that is connected to Rex Heuemann, I hope they noted where it came from on the canvas. What I mean is if the hair was located on the inside of the canvas where the body was located and not on the outside it would go towards proving it was dropped off of him while he wrapped the victim up after he killed her. If the hair that is connected to him was located on the outside of the canvas cloth that the victim was wrapped in, it proves that the canvas was in and around his home or in his possession before the body of the victim was killed and wrapped in it.
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How terrified these poor women must have been knowing they were in presence of pure EVIL. Rest in Peace, Ladies.
Would love to take this professors class. He so easily explains legal concepts for the average person to understand. Please have him back!
My thoughts exactly. I would love to have him as a professor!
I appreciate having his POV on this case, brilliant!
I was thinking the same thing
Love the baby cushion in the background on our left.
Very cute.
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That man walked among people like nothing happened for years... terrifying.
100% agree.
I believe they estimate 15-20 active serial killers in the states. Insane how they’re able to be chameleons for so long.
Though I understand how it’s terrifying to think about- comments like these always throw me off because what else would you expect?! People won’t walk around screaming they committed murder.
@@Providedbygeoo and there are 330 mil ppl in the us, wouldnt doubt 20 of em are that crazy
@@Monkey_1121 serial killers.. 20 was a good guess but you forgot to take me into account
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The fact his house hasn’t changed much since he was a child means he holds onto the past and collects memories. No doubt he has souvenirs from his victims. He doesn’t look like the cleanest person either so there’s bound to be DNA evidence in there
Right, his house looks like a complete dump. No work done to remodel or paint/fix up the exterior means his mind was constantly on something else
He seemed to be proud of his crimes but thought of his victims as unworthy, beneath him. Would he keep items from them if he devalued them as people so much. I wonder if his trophies were more along the lines of newspaper articles and the like. I don't really understand his motive for doing this other than he liked to kill women that he considered disposable and easy targets.
@@goofygirl1311 they wouldn’t be kept because he valued them, but more as mementos of what he did and how he felt doing it.
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140 That makes a lot of sense. I still don't understand why a big man like him would feel powerful killing a small female SW. He's pathetic.
Lets not just assume he’s some murderer. He’s innocent until proven guilty and he has no motive to commit any crime. My guess is being framed.
THANK YOU for mentioning all 11 potential victims of Heurerman. I understand the thinking for mentioning only the so-called Gilgo 4 but those poor families of the others. Thank your for acknowledging these other people. And they were people, regardless of where their journeys may have taken them
Maybe has more victim in another area
Yes!! ❤It doesn’t matter what they worked in. At All. The only thing about the line of work they were in is that is so much more incredibly dangerous and put them unnecessarily in harms way much more.
@@marciavieira702I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s accountable for many more murders at this point. He’s been “free” for a very long time. Haunting to think about it.
@@marciavieira702 ...perhaps even in another country. I never thought I'd repeat this overworked & over-wrought cliché but this man is: "...a mystery wrapped in an enigma". The dimensional barrier must be very, very thin near Massapequa Park, LI. Try reading H.P. Lovecraft or Stephen King & you'll better understand my comment.
Amen.
Love the Prof! Makes me feel like I'm back at law school with everyone's favorite teacher. He has an amazing knack for explaining things in plain language.
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Dear Mr. Weber, I’m a 73 year old former Brooklynite and so happy that an arrest has been finally been made in this case! Good overview of this case by you and your knowledgeable law professor! I always enjoy your sidebar videos!
@dutyaccountabilitymediaI disagree. They're too many.
@dutyaccountabilitymedia 😆 there's not a nice beach in NYC. I guess Coney Island is better.
it must be painstaking collecting evidence in this heat. my hat's off to the crime scene investigators.
My thoughts as well.
@@Leesaloves coldest NY summer in many years. Even 80 and humid is very unpleasant
He’s 59 years old and becomes a serial killer 13 years ago (46), my bet is he’s killed before you dont start becoming a serial killer at 46, he’s killed long before that I think…
Depends on what triggered him to start!
@@torpedodropkick59 a just cannot see him starting to kill at that age 46, the way he’s dumped the bodies and they Havent been found for long time tells me he’s done this before, he’s been careful all this time then suddenly he’s made mistakes that’s why he got caught, a bet we find he’s killed before,
He started as a teen. That's when he was at Gilgo beach. He has over 200 illegal firearms and his brother who served jail for involuntary manslaughter has a massive isolated property for hunting, where they were supposed to move together. I'm gonna say he killed hundreds and took them there for a depraved game with those firearms
What about Russel Willams ? Its not the average age but its possible ...even i believe he killed before but we should never be to sure....
@@torpedodropkick59right like with BTK he didn’t start killing until he got fired from a job
I could listen to Professor Jules Epstein for hours, love how clear each explanation is and the fact that he does research for the interview to better inform us, also love Jesse Weber as a host for letting the interviewee talk and show their knowledge.
I agree!❤
Yeah but he’s sharing a name with another Epstein
His voice would literally drive me insane 😮
Yes, I think he needs his own show or RUclips channel
omg same, it's so difficult to listen to
As a retired police officer/investigator it's refreshing for a guest to have real background, qualifications and valid opinions on a case, it's so unusual today. Excellent comments and analogies. From my career, serving many search warrants it looks like the suspect hired movers. I've never seen so much "stuff" coming out of a house for a homicide investigation they'll need a warehouse or a big garage to store all of it. And you'd better have a small army of DNA examiners to work all of it. Ask any retired homicide cop for comment, this search is on steroids.
Seriously Gary??? I watch lots of very qualified experienced brilliant retired investigators on RUclips true crime pages!!
@@Juke582 seriously Juke? What's your problem? Better yet, what's your laughable point? Oh! You watch very qualified experienced brilliant retired investigators on YT on true crime pages!!! Did it ever occur to your ignorant brain that maybe Gary doesn't watch the same channels that you do? Quit judging honey. You are not amusing.
This guy is questionable. BTK had many trophies of his victims in his home DECADES later
@@nadagabri5783There’s always outliers
I'm not buying the DNA off pizza crust.
I work with the Suffolk County crime lab as a crime scene technician and his house was FULL of guns, an entire room full of guns. Hundreds, I mean they will be performing test shoots for the next year. We basically took everything in the house.
Thank You MUCH🌹😇💜🙏🌻☮️
And attempting to match ballistics tests to all unsolved murders.
Having guns that aren't registered isnt a crime. So if its not on the search warrent they cannot take them.
More than two hundred firearms were in his home, and forty phones. His wife must be afraid to discuss finances alone. If each weapon was purchased for three hundred dollars, a steal, that’s sixty thousand dollars. Surely she wants a maid, a handyman, a housepainter, from the looks of her home. And what’s with a special dedicated room that no one but him has access to enter? Hello Mr. Respected Architect, your home is ready for condemnation. In the words of Betty Davis, “what a dump!”
I don't recall hearing any of the victims having signs of being shot.
I think this Professor is my favourite guest you've had! He articulates his knowledge and passion in a way that is so contagious!
Jesse is very good at letting a guest talk without interrupting, even if they are going off topic or being too pedantic.
Agreed 😊
I could listen to this man talk all day he’s one of my fav guests on the show
I love this Professor, he is so clear. I know nothing and still understood ❤
He’s brilliant !!
Nice to see humility in these comments. Just finished a thread of the craziest, wildly speculative stuff ever.
Listening to folks who know about jurisprudence and law enforcement will help us all make better sense of this madness.
Take care.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s accountable for many more murders at this point. He’s been “free” for a very long time. Haunting to think about.
Most likely he did kill more people. But probably won't confess to them.
I was thinking this. He could just have a new dumping ground.
@@Xander-86 Or he will confess a decade down the road.
@@NotSoNormal1987 He had to have picked a new dumping ground. Serial Killers rarely stop doing their killing. It does happen but not often.
I remember reading A to Z of serial killers, I got to the M's, and I just couldn't read anymore, it started to mess with my thoughts. For the people that speak for the dead, god bless your souls.
Not a bad idea to leave it be. It is soul-draining and damaging to be immersed in that kind of thing.
59 years old.. This just bothers me and makes me sick. To think he's almost 60 years old. Just how long has he been committing these crimes against women? Just how many unsolved murders are there? Just how many Mother's and Father's are waiting for answers or waiting for their daughters to be found? Dang!! To really think about this deeply it is mind blowing..
What are the odds that he started before 2013, 2012, even before 2007 as I've heard mentioned before somewhere?
And Rex isn't going to give up more information even if he knows already he's guilty and there's proof.
Yes it could've went back to the 90s one of the 11 victims was missing sense the 90s
We know he’s been at it since at least 1993/1994 cause one of the two victims they just indicted him on remains were found in 93/94. I suspect he’s been at it since at least late 80s like 88-89.
I think the guy ought to be charged with a crime for the way his house looks. He is supposed to be an architect and yet he's using 2x4s to shim up the roof of the front porch.
He was probably to busy running back home to do whatever sick stuff he did in that house to worry about his porch
Code violations against an architect that helps others get permits? How rich!
Not just an architect... he's also a "trouble shooter"! As he liked to describe his job
😆🤣so true😂😁
He's an architect not a construction worker? Like don't most of them sit around drafting out floor plans/playing on the computer/making phone calls etc..
This Professor is really the Best! What a rich conversation!! Congrats qnd thanks!!
Professor Epstein is excellent, so engaging and informative in how he breaks down complex concepts. Would love to hear his insight on more cases! :)
He is discounting trophies. SKs most always collect trophies - example BTK had them from his kills from a decade or more back
@@nadagabri5783when did he discount them . He clearly says that it is more than likely that he has some …
He’s brilliant
@@melaninmonroeeee he said maybe after one year maybe not so much after two … paraphrasing when referring to evidence of some kind in the home of the kills. Completely 100% discounting them as if SK’s aren’t known specifically for collecting trophies
@@nadagabri5783 lol , nah you need to rewatch it again . He was talking about certain items when he said. After he said that , he specifically said that if they are trophies its obviously much longer, if not forever …
He’s a hoarder. He keeps things as memories of what he did and where he did it. Willing to bet he kept momentos and personal items from the victims to keep their memories alive in his mind. He was curious to see if investigators were getting close to him by performing those searches online. It appears he was still active and poised to kill again when the investigators were forced to arrest him. His uncontrollable appetite for these women of smaller stature seemed to satisfy his craving for control. The rage he must have inside his head has obviously been there all his life after events or violence he witnessed growing up. Thank God he was finally apprehended or we’d be reading about and seeing another victim plastered across the news channels. Bless the families of the victims and the investigators who painstakingly dedicated themselves to watching this monster in 2022 and putting him behind bars in 2023.
As soon as these poor girls were found, this serial killer, just found another dump site!! A serial killer does not suddenly stop killing unless they are dead or in prison. The FBI need to look into other missing girls to see if he had any contact with them.
Some have taken very log breaks though. Like 10 or 20 years, ten strike again
100%
He's not just a serial killer. He's practicing a dark religion with other, that's why the police did nothing about the bodies on the beach for years.
Since he never moved from this house during all these years of.crime, I’m sure they will find something.
It really looks like he had a hard time parting with anything, with the amount of trash the evidence team is carrying out of there. Borderline hoarding situation. Poor wife, kids and kitty!
I wonder if he has something buried on the grounds of the property. Maybe that's why he never moved out
@@bulletsfordinner8307 oh good idea.
This neighbor remembered him digging up in his backyard, when he (the neighbor) was about 19, he is a full grown man now
@@sofiakatelynthey're gonna resurrect the entire ground of that property to see what's there. So much is going to come out of this case.
Why were hidden cameras not set up around the beach area after a couple of suspected serial cases to catch a vehicle or person?
I wonder if the Wife will work with the police for more details about timelines or anything like that. I sure hope she does. I know she filed for divorce so that's a good thing. She had to have noticed behaviors from him that weren't right. I watched the Ex SWs interview today and She had gone out to dinner with him, he freaked her out and she followed her instincts and wouldn't get in his car but He was obsessively speaking of the Gilgo murders. She said it was like his eyes glossed over and He was reliving the moment.
She will be forced to...by law.
i wonder how she couldn’t have known or at least suspected he had something to do with these horrific murders. She had to suspect him at some point
She filed for divorce! And doesn’t seem to be standing up for him unlike that Richard Allen
@@TheEwokExplorer I thought that too. Because I'm willing to bet he's Either abusive OR has abusive tendencies with her and I'm sure he's probably obsessively talked about the Gilgo murders.. and probably bragged to some extent or maybe even confided in her, Who knows. She can't be that Clueless.
She is definitely not standing by her man, which may indicate that the marriage was already rocky or perhaps suggests she already had suspicions. By divorcing him, she is no longer protected from testifying by spousal privilege. New York is not a community property state, so filing for divorce might be her way of protecting her assets from any wrongful death civil suits that arise. It might have been a wise move even if she doesn't believe the accusations.
This guy seems like the type who had to keep souvenirs from the victims. He talked openly about the case to other call girls of all people.
Great interview and info. The professor was great in how he explained things.
Now LE has to nail that SOB so those ladies get justice!
Im starting to think the old former police cheif that was in charge of the FIRST investigation that miraculously looked over this guy when todays detectives are sayin it was BLATANTLY OBVIOUS...May mean the police cheif was in on it with the murderer. The police cheif was involved in some odd stuff apparently that was similar to the murderer. Curious to see if they were friends...
I agree!
The one thing that is truly damaging is his wife's hair in between the duct tape used on a victim, which most likely happened at his home. Also, I have not heard reports of any other persons DNA found with the victims. That's very odd to me. I have a feeling they will find a victims DNA at his home
Right I feel like he def had them come to his house
The hair could have been planted. Just saying.
i just imagine how the neighbor felt after knowing the acts he commits it.
More like how anybody who knew him felt like.
@@genghiskhan9200I keep thinking of the ppl he employed, they were around most likely longer than anyone else
Apparently he was menacing toward his neighbors. He wouldn't even say hi back. Just glowering at people and chopping wood in his front yard.
I would move.
If he was in his 30s in 2011, many serial killers would have had victims before that age. He didn't just start in 2011. How many could there be and where?
He was in his mid 40s to late 40s . Not 30s.From 2007-2010. But you're right.undoubtedly, more victims
I absolutely agree. Must be more. He is a HUNTER. A human female hunter. Didn't start "yesterday". He has a type, when and how did he acquire the type? At what age did he get distorted? Most importantly - WHERE has he traveled ? His travel records MUST be thoroughly researched, staring from a reasonable adult age.
Yes, most likely there will be other victims tied to him. More of the bodies on that beach, but perhaps also elsewhere.
He was 43 in 2007. There are still 7 more bodies to account for on that beach alone, starting from 1996. After they uncovered this site, I believe he chose another dump site. There could be countless women anywhere he's traveled.
Well there looking at his DNA for those new Bedford murders in the 80s
Also, I don't think he kilked them by firearm. This was psychologically personal. He likely used his hands and belts, ties, strangulation, beating etc. Killing by firearm is not hands on and is too emotionally distant.
This guest is fascinating 👏
I read in some or another comment section (someone from Long Island) saying that after the murders happened and there was some sort of memorial (temporary) made for these beautiful young women, with flowers and cards etc. one day 3 really strange looking dolls had appeared on the site, placed very visibly and the look of the dolls were so odd that it was giving people the creeps and everyone was wondering if it was the killer who had left them there?
Maybe the police/fbi is thinking this doll they found in the house (apparently the size of a small child, not a blow up doll or adult size) (there is a photo in some video with the doll being carried out from the house in a glass "cage") could shed some further light in to the case of the strange dolls left on the memorial all those years ago??
This case, i reckon will be expanding much further, and unfortunately i have a feeling there will be far more victims. R.I.P all victims.
Supposedly it’s a doll from his wife’s native country dressed in traditional clothing.
i truly think it’s the same type of doll from what it seems.. why else would they take a doll?
Trinity killer vibes.
@@nohmers18 this is real life dude. Not Dexter.
Trophies, such as necklaces or earrings might be on the doll
Man his neighbor always had the creeps with this guy. He said he would smell fires from his back yard.
But his wife had no curiosity?
What kind of architect lives in that tinderbox?
Being an architect, one would deduce that he would live in a fabulous house.
He had a wife and daughter plus he had inherited the house from his parents. It's possible that the dolls were collected by one of his female family members and have nothing to do with him. But if there is some kind of link between the victims and these dolls, ex; he bought a doll that resembled a victim after he killed them, then that seems relevant to the case. That house looks like it's crammed full of stuff that no one has been able to part with.
His Mother is still living. She sold him the house I think in 1996.
@@onmywayto8083 Yes, his mom is still alive and in her 90's. I would imagine that a good amount of her stuff is still in that house, though. Hopefully, she is being shielded from this news because it's horrible.
There were similar dolls left at the sites where the bodies were found
@@rachelwyatt9529 Lord, this guy is a nightmare.
There was a toddler found too remember....maybe it was a trophy
excellent discussion. Mr. Epstein is incredibly knowledgeable. Its so nice to hear his viewpoints!
He’s amazing truly
Professional Jules Epstein does an excellent job of explaining the legal aspects of the collection of evidence, what is allowed, what may be allowed for special reasons and what is not allowed and how those things may difference during the period of the investigation and at the trial. His explanations were illuminating and revealed the complexities of the law both for the prosecutors and the lawyers defending the accused. The presentation was fascinating. I have my doubts about whether I would have ever made a good law but with all the recent murder cases I have learned so much about the law that is very interesting, very interesting. I always thought I might be bored if I had gone to law school but I now realize I would have eaten this up. And every case is unique. Thanks for sharing.
It’s also frustrating. I think, why wouldn’t said evidence be admitted? But as he explains it, I understand.
Yes, he is very good!
all we needed was the first 17 words, rest was mid life crisis...figure it out man.
You better be a lawyer in your next life.
Having done some research into the family, it appears its not just Rex who's "odd" in the family lol. He has an older brother by just a few years who was charged with involuntary manslaughter for being drunk and driving that ended in him crashing into a property complex and instantly killing an individual who managed the complex. He was incarcerated for a couple of years for causing the death. They are both described as "the odd couple" by neighbors, as the older brother left New York and moved further south and purchased several acres of land to make into a large private compound live on. Rex Heurman was believed to be considering moving on the compound with his brother, particularly as it was reported he would be able to freely hunt on land unfettered....but knowing what we know now, it wouldn't surprise me if he was more interested in digging up his victims and moving them to be re buried in the brothers compound but thankfully he ran out of time to do so. And I strongly doubt he'd have ceased killing and would have undoubtedly found more victims and no doubt buried them on the large, isolated, sprawling ground in his brothers compound that maybe the brother was completely clueless as to the activities of his serial killing brother.... This arrest didn't come a day too soon.
Digging up a decomposed body from 10 years ago seems like a highy unlikely move. More like he was going to use the brothers land as a new dumping ground
@@RushinVr6 Detective Colombo above has no clue what he's talking about. He wrote he "did his research." I read a few news articles and learned that for myself.
If they're both odd one wonders what their parents were like.
Ya okay Colombo, digging up decomposed bodies that have rotted up, you're a genius. I read a few news articles and deduced for myself what you refer to as "research." I think you missed your true calling as an investigator.
Thank you so much for this interview! What a tragedy, the details that come from the trial are going to be horrific.
We are not guaranteed a trial, in fact if this guy is confronted with all evidence they have on him through his lawyer, he may just plead guilty though when you see how this guy seems to crave attention, I doubt it
It wasn't a life-size doll. It was an antique doll in a doll display case. It was likely an antique or keepsake. It wasn't a blow up doll.
Looked like a rag doll. They should look inside the doll
I read somewhere it was a doll from his wife’s birth country in traditional clothing
I wish they would actually look at the pictures that all the rest of us have already seen of the things they have taken out of the house such as the doll. For God's sake inform yourself before you try to talk about it on the news 🙄
@@jss302and be more than a talking head? C'mon, that's work!
@@elainevarian8341where is his wife from?
I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation/interview. Such great minds.
I could listen to this guest all day. Wouldn't it be wonderful to take a course with him?
Wow, Professor Epstein was such a great contributor to legal explanations and understanding for a lay person regarding this case. Thanks so much to him and to you for having him on!
He is an exceptional legal professor in a world where not all legal professors are ... exceptional. Law school is difficult enough -- getting stuck with a bad teacher is a punishment I'd wish on no one!
Unfortunate surname
I grew up in Massapequa Park. I had a feeling it was someone from around there going back to when they traced a call to the area.
Never know what fantasy someone has....scary.....
this a case of why you never judge a person by just face alone
Really? He even looked like an arrogant misogynist in the casual work videos. And his after arrest photos... he absolutely looks like a killer.
He looked like a creepy monster already
He looks like a monster
He looks like he always just woke up from a nap and still had the pillow imprint on his face
His house wasn’t a good advert for his architectural skills. It looks like a shanty.
He has multiple houses. He didn't maintain them all due to time.
20:59 could that not be explained away in court by saying ‘well he lived right by the beach, he was just a concerned citizen following the case of the victims that were dumped right by his house’? Obviously most of us would be like ‘nah he’s a serious creeper and loving the coverage’ but logically it could be explained away by his defence?
Imagine living next door to his house. Terrible.
My day gets better every time I listen to this professor. I fricken love him.
Lifejacket. I grew up living right on the ocean, hence I was on the beach everyday. It was not unusual to see lost/abandoned life jackets on beaches, and sometimes high up on the shoreline due to hightides or storms. Could the life jacket have been found in the vicinity of where the victims were found? Could it be a "souvenir" of 'his' body deposit area? Just thinking out loud.
21:52 and there’s land in SC that he owns- looks like a whole junkyard out there. A lot to sort through
Love this guest. Good interview.
I like how the professor breaks down the law vs terms. Very educational.
really enjoyed listening to professor jules epsteins comments and insight on this case! would love to hear from him again
I wonder how many more of these serial killers are still walking around free hiding in plain sight .
FBI states 50 to 100 at any given time I believe, but I could be wrong.
This was a super helpful segment thank you!!
When should warrants be served on South Carolina property to search
Professor Epstein is very knowledgeable and a pleasure to listen to! This is one of the few episode that I have watched all the way through.
His house is in a pretty bad state for an architect.
Sick that this monster was able to keep living his life for the last 13 years after all of the murders. Meanwhile, the victims lives were snuffed out by someone who chose to play God. They didn’t deserve such a horrific death 😢.
Great interview.
Tho RE the cat and lifevest, keep in mind the bodies and murders this case is currently revolving around are the 13+ year old murders. BUT that doesn't mean there aren't more. This guy didn't stop murdering women. Those two specific items may very well have been taken to connect him to more recent and/or older murders.
Jules smashed it. Very informative and impartial. Great guest today
i really hope this disgusting murderer has no clue how much attention he is now getting cause he has followed the case fervently and asked all kinds of people about it. How it took so long for this obvious creep to pop up on law enforcement’s radar is a mystery
Because the case was basically "shelved" by the previous Officer in charge, however you call it in the States. A new task force was put together finally a few yrs ago and here is the result.
The cops didn't look for him. When they did, it only took 6 weeks to find him. If there were any victims between 2010 and 2022, I hope the cops are never able to forget that.
He probably gets off on the attention. It took so long because of the corruption in the Suffolk County police department and the neighborhood didn’t want the media attention to lower their property values. Sick all around.
Thank you for keeping us posted everytime there’s new info on this Monster in this Case.
You two do a fantastic analysis together. Thanks so much
Always love your updates and love how clear Professor Epstein was with his explanation of collecting evidence ❤️you never fail to keep me focused throughout your interviews and updates Jessie Webber ❤
Definitely agree! 😀
The man is a complete lunatic and psychopath, and them internet searches gave me and my wife chills. like, WTF. May all the Victims Rest In Peace 🙏
I like listening to the professor. He explains so clearly and makes things understandable. Thank you, sir. 😊
Jesse thank you so much for having Professor Epstein on your show. I've watched a lot of interviews/commentaries over the last week and this was hands down the best one that I have seen.
Awesome guest, an incredible teacher! This episode was very educational... it prompted discussion and critical thinking.
The info about search warrant: all citizens should have awareness of laws
Does the "staleness" factor change if the wife or daughter tell prosecutors about potential items of interest? Or if the wife gives permission for a full search?
Ooooo. That’s a good point. Let’s hope her uncontested divorce lands her with the properties and she agrees to turn it all over to authorities for review…?
It looks like they are emptying his entire house! I saw a gumball machine in a clear trash bag so how is that evidence? I theorize that because his house is so cluttered, they are having to remove layers of stuff just to search. Any thoughts??
agreed 110%!
We all say so good to see you, professor 😅🎉 he's the best!
FORMER escourt. That lady has made something of herself, let's not forget that!
Escorts tend to be SA’d girls with low self esteem who are in survival mode. They deserve love just the same as and NEED love given to them even more than the average girl.
Lol
I hate that escorts or SW get a bad rap, we all aren't bad ppl
@@JNB520have some self respect
Get an actual job
@@nowirehangers2815you should be a little more, shall we say, discerning in what you say. I'm sure no one has told you but a LOT of women have engaged in s3x work at least once in their lives, like something over 40%. We all know that should life go tits up, if you are still youngish and decent looking, that it is the last option. Women you would never expect have accepted cash for their company. As women we know this is much more common than men actually realize. What I'm trying to say is, you will never know if any woman you will ever be with once escorted or what have you. Because she isn't going to tell you. Just thought you should know.
I saw a news report that a medical examiner was called to one of the search sites. 👀
THAT MEANS THERE WAS A BODY OMG🤯🤯🤯
Fascinating interview. Thank you for letting him speak 👍
I love your show guys, great job!!! If Rex is guilty, I hope he gets capital punishment, as every serial killer should!!
No Capital Punishment in NY
New York is a Blue state . . . . . one of the biggest reasons NY has such a high murder rate.
Seems to me if you promise to torture individuals in the town square bi weekly crime would sink like the Titanic !
But democrats need these things in order to stay relevant, apparently because if we all really wanted to , we could discourage at least half the 1st degree murders
This was a great interview! I really like this attorney! Hopefully you’ll have him back. 😊
I feel like the odds of him still having at least trophies on one of his properties since he doesn't want to part with them
yeah this is confusing. just because you should have disposed of the evidence by now doesnt mean you did. ive never heard of this
@@Overthoughtsshoot, they just served a warrant at a house 25 years later for Tupac's murder 🤔
Excellent Host and Brilliant Guest 👏. So very well done 🎉! My first time finding this site but I'm absolutely 💯 going to be a regular viewer!
It’s to bad that a criminal rights are more important then the victims
This was informative, educational and insightful. Great guest!!
It looks to me that they have just about cleared out the entire house !!!
He is not "innocent until proven guilty"
He is "presumed innocent until proven guilty"
Thank you 💛 for your report. This will be interesting to see how everything unfolds. I hope LE has all the evidence they need to win the Case and put him on death penalty.
Thanks Jesse, great episode!
We joke about weird neighbors but this is really going to make us that much more weary of them.
Great discussion, love this guest speaker!
Prayers for the families of these young women and man :*(
…also the toddler 😢,,.
Alleged serial killer looks spooky - I would not like to meet him in the dark.
His wife goes to Comicon events, that doll could be hers, collectors item, cos play etc
Fabelous interview Jesse. Thank you
the title of this video is: "5 Most Disturbing Pieces of Evidence Found in Alleged Serial Killer's Home." So, uh, - just wondering: are those 5 Most Disturbing Pieces of Evidence even ever mentioned in this video????
When the person found the hair that is connected to Rex Heuemann, I hope they noted where it came from on the canvas. What I mean is if the hair was located on the inside of the canvas where the body was located and not on the outside it would go towards proving it was dropped off of him while he wrapped the victim up after he killed her. If the hair that is connected to him was located on the outside of the canvas cloth that the victim was wrapped in, it proves that the canvas was in and around his home or in his possession before the body of the victim was killed and wrapped in it.