If Vanny is extremely aggressive (and APPEARS MORE IN THE GAME) I'll download it without even thinking twice. I found it very interesting, it caught my attention.... I can't wait for this mod to be released :3
@@InkyDemon87 Yes but not that much. Vanny appears only a few time and then when she's here and notice you she doesn't run directly to you and the only way for you to escape Vanny is by running away in that case. So she's not that much aggressive
If the goal of this mod is to make Security Breach more like the beta, then I am all for it. That includes Vanny with her knife, helper/playable Vanessa, Valley Girl Chica, etc. That being said, I think we should all give these guys as much time as possible, and not bug them about when the mod is coming out. This puts a ton of pressure on modders, who usually only have time to work on these things in between what little time they have off from full time work. This kind of pressure is often the death of many mod projects, aside from conflicts between the modders themselves. If you are reading this comment: do your part, and don't be impatient for a release date. Security Breach already disappointed some fans, so don't let it happen again.
And Glowy Sunrise, More Moondrop Abilities, The Play area actually having a clock so that the player is counting on a 10-minute survival timer, and that one moment where Freddy says that he thinks Vanny found them.
@@JodiGeo Even if that's true, that's all the more reason to add it imo, for novelty's sake. That being said, I'm not too fixated on it, I just think it would be worth adding anyway. It would make her jumpscare feel more like a game over, for obvious reasons.
This is going to be something absolutely fantastic and I am sure the team has done a brilliant job! This mod will definitely change SB as we know it for so many players ^^
I just realised this mod makes the player capable of yeeting stuff😂, like a can of soda (i think it's a fizzy faz drink in the video). That would be great to use as a distraction. Really good idea! It would be funnier if these items were from your own inventory
Very good minor but very effective changes for this mod would be to make the security staff bots faster, the animatronics more sound sensitive and their range of view larger (it's stupid how they cannot hear or see you when you are so close to them) and finally the map symbols actually applied on the map itself
A better option would be to completely nerf the staff bots. Have them move slower and go in loops that actually make sense. And instead of the animatronics teleporting to you when the staff bots catch you, have them instead stay at the location they already were and follow the direction of the sound. Those bastards were the worst aspect of Security Breach for me from a gameplay perspective and just incredibly unfair. You know what, maybe just remove them from the game entirely.
A mod that saved cut content and improved the game was all I wanted the most, but I always doubted there would be anyone to do that, but I was wrong. Congratulations ❤
I hope they also add places where it can only be accessed in ruin for example -level 10 rooms *including the babys room* -Bonnie's room *also the place where his corpse is* -the place where the wagons of monty's gator golf are parked *including attraction* -the complete cave where the room where candy cadet is attached to the entrance of burntrap's lair and the mimic's cave *obviously the entrance to the mimic's cave must not have gregory's backpack, it must not have concrete on the door, it must not have a forklift, it must not have a panel, it must not have a security system* -ETC Hopefully they will also add a chase with Burntrap out of the pizza place in some kind of warehouse as seen in the second trailer of the base game where Burntrap's hand is shown coming out of some kind of warehouse and hopefully Burntrap's design is just the mimic with the suit on and having no organs or no purple eyes
We already know where Bonnie ended up in Ruin, he'd been trapped all this time in the bowling alley but I would love to see who put him there & maybe this could answer that We do see the old log ride hidden in Roxy Raceway so we could see more there & maybe we might see more service areas. According to the books, the layout is sprawling so there's multiple opportunities for loads of surprises
I don’t think they’d add the cave where the mimic and candy candet is cause there’s not really any point. There’s no story or gameplay significance I’m going down there
Almost thought this was gonna be a Security Breach fangame, where it was implemented with the same style of how all FNAF games used to be, a series of pictures with only a select set of paths to choose from.
This looks absolutely stunning! I'm excited to see what Y'all got cookin' up! One point of criticism from me is that some of the new areas seem to be kinda barren and empty... Though, I'm sure they'll be filled top to bottom with decor when the mod eventually releases.
Im always up for more Security Breach, and once i get a good PC you'll be sure I'll be taking a look at this. Considering the animitronics can be patrolling Rockstar Row makes me think this game will be much more challenging which I am all for.
Bro, just found this in my recommended and this looks GODDAMN AWESOME! I seriously can’t wait for this mod to come out, it looks genuinely promising and it looks like it could fix all of the problems people had with Security Breach! Also this remix of Mimic Chase is a certified BANGER! Hella gonna add that to my music playlist lol.
Two questions that haunt me. 1. Was the design of animatronics like this initially or is it a mod? It became interesting to me when I saw the textures of glam rocks, especially Chica and Roxy. 2. Catwalks in Rockstar Row. Is this the idea of the authors of the mod, or was it originally planned in the game? (I mean, they were in the game initially for a while, but before the release of the February trailer, the developers decided to remove them?) I just don't understand how these catwalks can (or could) pass from one corridor to another through Rockstar Row and where they can (or could) lead.🤔 P.s sorry, but I'm just curious.
Iooks good. I'm looking forward to this, i will definitely play the full game again with this mod. I don't know how many new things you are gonna add other than cut content, but i hope you make AIs harder to deal with. in the base game only monty is actually hard to deal with, and he's the least active even, so please make the animatronics stronger and harder. Side note: please make the valley girl chica an optional setting lol, i'm pretty sure most people would want it disabled
I hope this comes as no offense to you all but I must say the intense music set to the visual of Gregory slowly walking down a completely blank hallway near the beginning gave me quite a hearty chuckle. In any case, best of luck in your endeavors, I wish you all smooth development and a completed project.
awsome, i also hope steel wool adds the cut content of the building such as those corridors tunnels and many many more from teasers into dlc in future, still looking forward to this one too just in case steel wool plans to bring all these stuff into day mode and survivel mode imn exra menu
This looks amazing and very promising but please make the Chica Valley Girl voice a toggle option. I assure you that the majority prefer the current voice 😅
Yesss!!! I've been diving into security breach's cut content and theres so much i would've loved to see in game. I can't wait to experience it with this mod even if not all of it.
I don’t know how to feel about Chica’s new valley girl voice? I though Glamrock Chica’s voice was fine as it was. It was creepy enough hearing that failing at being friendly voice and not knowing where it’s coming from.
normaly I'm not one for adding mods that completely change games, but I am very interested in this. My only gripe it the vally girl Chika. I much more prefer her final voice in the base game.
take ur time, make sure its not buggy and that the ai works fine and PLEASE USE VANNY MORE. I want the graphycs to look good aswell so take ALL THE TIME u need, good content!
I hope all the endings are cinematic, hopefully it will answer the Leave ending, like Gregory being on the newspaper where it shows missing kids….if it’s him. That’s if the pictures of them aren’t blurry.
My fnaf fanboy is SCREAMING IN JOY RIGHT NOW!!!! I'm so excited. PSS Your doing a great job so far. Dont overwork you got this, in Roxys words, You are the best.
I hope this is a real DLC to because ruin was great and we could also get some past Intel from before Gregory and Cassie even showed up the pizza. Plex and Fred bears family diner was mentioned in a tweet, so I wonder if Fred bears family diner is under the pizza Plex.
this isn't a DLC its a mod. there is no "past" storyline here. if you got it from razz he has 0 idea what hes talking about most of the time. this is just a quality of life mod that gives the game some enhancements, restores cut content, and maybe even more than what i've already said.
This looks great but I have some questions 1: are the cat walk’s connected to each attraction like Monty’s connect to Monty golf or something 2: will the story be changed to put in the cut ideas like shattered glamrock freddy or whatever Vanny was going to do 3: will any or all cut content be put in the game like Bonnie bowl
this is a MOD????? i thought you completely remade the game from scratch or something. at least that means it wont end up being taken down for being a free remake or something. im really really glad to see someone making an actually high effort mod for security breach, considering all of them right now are just model swaps, apart from some difficulty mods or the multiplayer one. if you want any more modellers, animators, or ideas people, im happy to help out. if you want i can show you my stuff and see if youll accept me.
I have a feeling that this game would actually show what the pizza Plex was before Glam Rock Bonnie was destroyed meaning that there would be a lot more body art around the building and there would be a physical form of Glam Rock Bonnie
Instantly thought ohh this sounds soooo much like Falkkone, first heard him in in his coorperation with a singer he did on a cover he did from kousuu mesorogiwi, the opening of mirai nikki. Love his music.
the hero we wanted and the hero we needed. Does adding cut content also include vannys story and having vanessa as a companion? if that is the case, this would probably be the mod of the year
hate to burst your bubble but with the info that has been shared right now, glamrock bonnie has a very slight possibility and glamrock foxy has 0 possibility
Dude, this is insane, proof of steelwool can do this and make sb better and have more content but they just don’t want, thx guys from dev team, and I’ll be follow so close the development
I notice how Glamrock Freddy is with the other Glamrock animatronic in one scene of the trailer,could this meant that he’s not going to become a Allie to us in this mod?
"This area is totally off limits!"
VALLEY GIRL CHICA!! WOOOOOO
Dude you are everywhere i go lmao
@@gaminganimators7000
It means you have good taste in content creators!
Nooo I didn't like valley girl Chica. I liked the way she sounded in the original game.
@@Kyolover8
I don't work for the mod, but Fingers Crossed that they add an option for Valley Girl Chica and Normal Chica
Sounds good I love options so much that I even add 9373 options to my own games.@@littlegoat713
If Vanny is extremely aggressive (and APPEARS MORE IN THE GAME) I'll download it without even thinking twice. I found it very interesting, it caught my attention.... I can't wait for this mod to be released :3
Vanny is actually aggressive in the game, she runs so fast to you, creepy
@ravensoulmovies131 I bet the knife wasn't even in development and it was just vanny's art and that's it
@@InkyDemon87why should that have been they’re plan? Her motive is to kill so a knife would make a great job
@@InkyDemon87 Yes but not that much. Vanny appears only a few time and then when she's here and notice you she doesn't run directly to you and the only way for you to escape Vanny is by running away in that case. So she's not that much aggressive
@@yuiitsuka394 That it did not appear much does not mean that it is not aggressive, if she has detected you it is almost impossible to survive her
If the goal of this mod is to make Security Breach more like the beta, then I am all for it. That includes Vanny with her knife, helper/playable Vanessa, Valley Girl Chica, etc. That being said, I think we should all give these guys as much time as possible, and not bug them about when the mod is coming out. This puts a ton of pressure on modders, who usually only have time to work on these things in between what little time they have off from full time work. This kind of pressure is often the death of many mod projects, aside from conflicts between the modders themselves. If you are reading this comment: do your part, and don't be impatient for a release date. Security Breach already disappointed some fans, so don't let it happen again.
And Glowy Sunrise, More Moondrop Abilities, The Play area actually having a clock so that the player is counting on a 10-minute survival timer, and that one moment where Freddy says that he thinks Vanny found them.
@@storminlogan1878Their names are just Sun and Moon, neither of those names are official names
I don't think Vanny was ever gonna have a knife in-game
A buncha merch just based itself off of the artwork which had her with one
@@JodiGeo Even if that's true, that's all the more reason to add it imo, for novelty's sake. That being said, I'm not too fixated on it, I just think it would be worth adding anyway. It would make her jumpscare feel more like a game over, for obvious reasons.
@@JodiGeo Oh please. The captions shorted out the names of the glamrocks. Why trust it isn't doing that with the other characters?
This is going to be something absolutely fantastic and I am sure the team has done a brilliant job! This mod will definitely change SB as we know it for so many players ^^
Rip ps5 and 4 players. I swear one morw of my friends says ps5 gets everything and im blocking them
This mod has the potential to be THE definitive way of playing Security Breach.
Kudos to the team working on this mod!
I just realised this mod makes the player capable of yeeting stuff😂, like a can of soda (i think it's a fizzy faz drink in the video). That would be great to use as a distraction. Really good idea! It would be funnier if these items were from your own inventory
Very good minor but very effective changes for this mod would be to make the security staff bots faster, the animatronics more sound sensitive and their range of view larger (it's stupid how they cannot hear or see you when you are so close to them) and finally the map symbols actually applied on the map itself
Staff bots should be wiped from the game along with that teleportation mechanic
@@8ballvr175 I think the teleport would be okay if they didn't spawn right next to you and instead a different room or around the corner
A better option would be to completely nerf the staff bots. Have them move slower and go in loops that actually make sense. And instead of the animatronics teleporting to you when the staff bots catch you, have them instead stay at the location they already were and follow the direction of the sound. Those bastards were the worst aspect of Security Breach for me from a gameplay perspective and just incredibly unfair. You know what, maybe just remove them from the game entirely.
A mod that saved cut content and improved the game was all I wanted the most, but I always doubted there would be anyone to do that, but I was wrong. Congratulations ❤
I hope they also add places where it can only be accessed in ruin
for example
-level 10 rooms
*including the babys room*
-Bonnie's room
*also the place where his corpse is*
-the place where the wagons of monty's gator golf are parked
*including attraction*
-the complete cave where the room where candy cadet is attached to the entrance of burntrap's lair and the mimic's cave
*obviously the entrance to the mimic's cave must not have gregory's backpack, it must not have concrete on the door, it must not have a forklift, it must not have a panel, it must not have a security system*
-ETC
Hopefully they will also add a chase with Burntrap out of the pizza place in some kind of warehouse as seen in the second trailer of the base game where Burntrap's hand is shown coming out of some kind of warehouse and hopefully Burntrap's design is just the mimic with the suit on and having no organs or no purple eyes
His arm was in the west arcade back tunnel
We already know where Bonnie ended up in Ruin, he'd been trapped all this time in the bowling alley but I would love to see who put him there & maybe this could answer that
We do see the old log ride hidden in Roxy Raceway so we could see more there & maybe we might see more service areas. According to the books, the layout is sprawling so there's multiple opportunities for loads of surprises
I saw someone mention them only adding areas from thin that would make sense, so Bonnie’s room is possible ig.
I don’t think they’d add the cave where the mimic and candy candet is cause there’s not really any point. There’s no story or gameplay significance I’m going down there
I am so excited for this mod! I always wanted to see what SB would have been like if it stayed accurate to the original teaser and gameplay trailer!
Almost thought this was gonna be a Security Breach fangame, where it was implemented with the same style of how all FNAF games used to be, a series of pictures with only a select set of paths to choose from.
"a series of pictures with only a select set of paths to choose from." Would be a serious step back in SB gameplay, if that happened.
Super excited to replay SB with this!!!! Glad we are finally gonna see almost all the cut content in-game!
This looks absolutely stunning! I'm excited to see what Y'all got cookin' up!
One point of criticism from me is that some of the new areas seem to be kinda barren and empty...
Though, I'm sure they'll be filled top to bottom with decor when the mod eventually releases.
The style, the red eyes, the music, and the glitchiness is what people expected security breach to be in 2019-2020-
I can’t wait to see how this looks
Im always up for more Security Breach, and once i get a good PC you'll be sure I'll be taking a look at this. Considering the animitronics can be patrolling Rockstar Row makes me think this game will be much more challenging which I am all for.
This trailer is very weirdly-paced, but there's a lot of great promise there!
This is legit Steel Wool quality trailer
Bro, just found this in my recommended and this looks GODDAMN AWESOME! I seriously can’t wait for this mod to come out, it looks genuinely promising and it looks like it could fix all of the problems people had with Security Breach! Also this remix of Mimic Chase is a certified BANGER! Hella gonna add that to my music playlist lol.
So true
i hope you put missions on those removed areas, as to not just wonder around for no reason. but either way i bet it's going to be amazing!🤩
I'm definitely going to do a playthrough with this mod! This mod is making my dream come true.
Two questions that haunt me.
1. Was the design of animatronics like this initially or is it a mod? It became interesting to me when I saw the textures of glam rocks, especially Chica and Roxy.
2. Catwalks in Rockstar Row. Is this the idea of the authors of the mod, or was it originally planned in the game? (I mean, they were in the game initially for a while, but before the release of the February trailer, the developers decided to remove them?) I just don't understand how these catwalks can (or could) pass from one corridor to another through Rockstar Row and where they can (or could) lead.🤔
P.s sorry, but I'm just curious.
1:it’s a mod. 2: it’s an original idea.
The catwalks had to be added because of Ruin, they lead to east/west server rooms (atleast in Ruin).
ohhh@@januszjanusz536
@@januszjanusz536 But I thought they weren't gonna do ruin areas because of the elevators and stuff not making sense
@@DavinFaulkner I think the areas that make sense with the base game layout/are douable will be added.
Iooks good. I'm looking forward to this, i will definitely play the full game again with this mod. I don't know how many new things you are gonna add other than cut content, but i hope you make AIs harder to deal with. in the base game only monty is actually hard to deal with, and he's the least active even, so please make the animatronics stronger and harder.
Side note: please make the valley girl chica an optional setting lol, i'm pretty sure most people would want it disabled
I hope this comes as no offense to you all but I must say the intense music set to the visual of Gregory slowly walking down a completely blank hallway near the beginning gave me quite a hearty chuckle. In any case, best of luck in your endeavors, I wish you all smooth development and a completed project.
awsome, i also hope steel wool adds the cut content of the building such as those corridors tunnels and many many more from teasers into dlc in future, still looking forward to this one too just in case steel wool plans to bring all these stuff into day mode and survivel mode imn exra menu
This looks amazing so far! Great work yall.
This looks amazing and very promising but please make the Chica Valley Girl voice a toggle option. I assure you that the majority prefer the current voice 😅
Same I actually like the voice we got.
Please keep working on this mod it looks really cool and i hope a lot if people will play it
AW YEAH ANOTHER FELLOW DEV TRYING TO REIMAGINE SB
I’m hoping that we get the return of the old fazwatch UI from the trailers.
OMG THIS LOOKS SO GOOD, THIS IS THE HYPEST FNAF FAN-PROJECT I'VE EVER SEEN. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
pls dont cancel it I need this in my life 🙏
In a way, it's almost like this could be considered another DLC all on it's own.
Yesss!!! I've been diving into security breach's cut content and theres so much i would've loved to see in game. I can't wait to experience it with this mod even if not all of it.
This is such a great idea! I hope you add back the driving mechanic of Roxy’s Raceway.
Very interesting. I'll be sure to check this out when it's done!
Aside from some minor issues, this is an interesting project. I look forward to what you have planned.
What minor issues?
I’m definitely getting this when it comes out
dude!! the old graphics are back thats so awesome!!
This already looks so cool! I can't wait to play this mod when it's finished :D
I don’t know how to feel about Chica’s new valley girl voice? I though Glamrock Chica’s voice was fine as it was. It was creepy enough hearing that failing at being friendly voice and not knowing where it’s coming from.
It's an unused voice
Ok, you've got my attention. You guys seem to be cooking something incredible.
you brought back the old rockstar row lighting! I'm definitely downloading when it releases
This actually needs to happen
This is the BEST mod I've ever seen and it’s not even done yet! My standards for mods have ABSOLUTELY skyrocketed!!!
YES, I WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR MONTHS
Literally cannot wait for this! Looks fantastic so far and this mod just looks amazing! Outstanding job!
normaly I'm not one for adding mods that completely change games, but I am very interested in this. My only gripe it the vally girl Chika. I much more prefer her final voice in the base game.
Omg I'm so excited I've been dreaming about this a quality version of security breach
This is so good I thought it was it’s own separate game, this looks very amazing
This is what i tought SB was going to look like
WE ARE MAKING IT OUT OF THE PIZZAPLEX WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥
take ur time, make sure its not buggy and that the ai works fine and PLEASE USE VANNY MORE. I want the graphycs to look good aswell so take ALL THE TIME u need, good content!
I hope all the endings are cinematic, hopefully it will answer the Leave ending, like Gregory being on the newspaper where it shows missing kids….if it’s him. That’s if the pictures of them aren’t blurry.
This needs more attention.
I’m reaching my absolute limit 🦖
This looks so peak. I need more Vanny content
I’m really excited for this mod to release
My fnaf fanboy is SCREAMING IN JOY RIGHT NOW!!!! I'm so excited. PSS Your doing a great job so far. Dont overwork you got this, in Roxys words, You are the best.
This looks fantastic, I can't wait to give it a go when it comes out.
Cool Glamrock Chica is going to get new voice lines in this game I’m ready for Freddy! 🎉
he woke up and said "fine, i'll do it myself"
Very good trailer, I liked it! But I have a question, will you bring back a bowling mini-game related to the location of Bowling Bonnie?
And also will there be a window in this location with a view of Roxy Raceway?
I'm sorry for one more question, but I'm wondering if the map will be worked out in Faz-watch?
Yes@@mgarst_geek
They will
so basicly gives back what is already there (should be there) :D
Yep and some new stuff!
I hope this is a real DLC to because ruin was great and we could also get some past Intel from before Gregory and Cassie even showed up the pizza. Plex and Fred bears family diner was mentioned in a tweet, so I wonder if Fred bears family diner is under the pizza Plex.
this isn't a DLC its a mod. there is no "past" storyline here. if you got it from razz he has 0 idea what hes talking about most of the time. this is just a quality of life mod that gives the game some enhancements, restores cut content, and maybe even more than what i've already said.
I'm not sure about the red-eyed Glamrocks and the Vanny redesign.
Looking great so far!
This looks incredible! And the Metal music in the background is just the cherry on top! 🤟
This looks great but I have some questions
1: are the cat walk’s connected to each attraction like Monty’s connect to Monty golf or something
2: will the story be changed to put in the cut ideas like shattered glamrock freddy or whatever Vanny was going to do
3: will any or all cut content be put in the game like Bonnie bowl
this looks better then the base game all around.
I kinda wanna see a post-ruin mod
this is a MOD????? i thought you completely remade the game from scratch or something. at least that means it wont end up being taken down for being a free remake or something. im really really glad to see someone making an actually high effort mod for security breach, considering all of them right now are just model swaps, apart from some difficulty mods or the multiplayer one. if you want any more modellers, animators, or ideas people, im happy to help out. if you want i can show you my stuff and see if youll accept me.
me to
The mod adds like 3 hours more to the game
Holy crap, this is awesome
I have a feeling that this game would actually show what the pizza Plex was before Glam Rock Bonnie was destroyed meaning that there would be a lot more body art around the building and there would be a physical form of Glam Rock Bonnie
Instantly thought ohh this sounds soooo much like Falkkone, first heard him in in his coorperation with a singer he did on a cover he did from kousuu mesorogiwi, the opening of mirai nikki. Love his music.
just wanted to let you know the discord link is invalid, this mod looks super promising!
this mod looks really promising. but i still like the base security breach as it was. i will still try this out when it releases
I am PRAYING that Vanny gets her knife back
She will
THIS LOOKS SO GOOD WHAT
Blast to the past , its Security breach with new Name?.!
It’s a mod
They have catwalks. In rockstar row now sweet and love it by the way
Gotta love how the fandom can make better games then steelwool themselves
No more elevators! 😃
All I ask for is a better Afton boss battle. But regardless this mod looks amazing! Take all the time you need to finish it.
I'm literally never playing Vanilla SB again once this comes out.
the hero we wanted and the hero we needed. Does adding cut content also include vannys story and having vanessa as a companion? if that is the case, this would probably be the mod of the year
To quote the Ninth Doctor, “Fantastic!”
I will be so surprised if this is free cuz this looks like it’s at least $50
I can't wait for this mod to release! It will be fun!❤❤❤
So when Vanessa calls Gregory for a "reward"
Will That go Anywhere?
gregory gets ara ara'd secret ending
@@BaeathHECK. NO
Probably as in the other trailers it seems vann.essas character seems to be changed
IS this for security breach of something else!
Better than ruin maybe
For me definetly
Ooh so excited to replay with this mod
This is going to be a peak trailer
Yes
Nah dawko gotta see this
This mod is gonna save security breach
I have a feeling this mod will blow up once it releases.
this might be interesting
This looks impressive
If this is the past,Maybe we will see Glamrock Bonnie and foxy!!IM SO EXITED
THIS WILL HAVE ALL THE UNUSED CONTENT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE IN THE GAME
hate to burst your bubble but with the info that has been shared right now, glamrock bonnie has a very slight possibility and glamrock foxy has 0 possibility
@@Dustt_yeah I know
For the love of Spiff please tell me you are adding the bowling minigame!
Yas
Dude, this is insane, proof of steelwool can do this and make sb better and have more content but they just don’t want, thx guys from dev team, and I’ll be follow so close the development
I notice how Glamrock Freddy is with the other Glamrock animatronic in one scene of the trailer,could this meant that he’s not going to become a Allie to us in this mod?
It’s probably just a different intro cutscene
@@simizy3726HAPCNW0185 oh so Freddy will still be a Allie in the mod?
@@Mr.Feather130 my guess is yes
@@simizy3726HAPCNW0185 okay but will Freddy turned against us in the blast to the past mod?
@@Mr.Feather130 I hope, it would be really really cool but I don’t expect too much since they aren’t a whole lot of people