To our non-US Friends: We're sorry we didn't include any conversions in the video! :( A quick conversion from MPG is 1 MPG = .425 km/l. The quickest way to think about it would be to just divide our numbers by 2 and you're left with a rough estimate to km/l :) We're trying to include conversions on our future videos :) P.S. Yes, Imperial is terrible. Metric is the far superior measurement system.
You forgot about the part where big oil companies were paying car manufacturers to not produce more fuel efficient vehicles. Or how in the early 1900s Ford created a vehicle that got 90 miles per gallon but then the US scrapped the idea. Or how a lot of European countries had cars getting 50 miles per gallon way before Toyota came out with the Prius
Great video. Maybe you can explain how, when I was driving an 18 wheeler with major drag and weighing 50 to 60k lbs, I was getting around 10mpg. Weighing 1000% or more than an average vehicle. A 1 to 1 comparison would be 100 mpg for the vehicle. I know that's not logical, but, why not, at least, half of that?
They have designed 18 wheelers to get their best mileage at exactly the speed you are supposed to be travelling at for most of your time. Cars do a lot more city driving where the speed fluctuates a lot. You have around 10 forward gears which gives you more control over getting in that eco sweet-spot for good mileage. Probably the biggest difference is that the difference between maximum RPM and cruising RPM of an engine greatly affects its mileage because to limit RPM you have to choke the air intake, which reduces efficiency. So a car engine capable of going 7,000 RPM has to seriously choke the intake to go 2,300 RPM for highway driving, but your rig probably has a maximum around 2,800 RPM and you drive on highways around 1,500 RPM. The closer those two numbers are, the less you are chocking the intake. In simple terms, the best mileage you can get in a car is when it is cruising at one speed, and when accelerating as fast as it can it is accelerating about as quickly as an 18 wheeler, that means that its fully open airways are only a little more open than at its cruising speed. The Prius kept its engine at fully open throttle/choke and generated enough energy to recharge a battery, then it ran electric motors off that battery and turned off the gas engine. Electric motors are more efficient because they produce almost no heat when they run. Also, the Prius saved the heat of its coolant so that when the engine needed to turn back on for more electricity it didn't have to warm up the engine, because it costs a little extra fuel to warm up an engine.
@@vladimirlenin843 the numbers still did not add up. If a vehicle that huge with that much drag can still get 9 to 10 miles per gallon, there is no reason why a significantly smaller vehicle should only get double the amount of miles per gallon. It should get at least three or four times more
I do 60mpg every week doing up to 300 miles in a week. I drive a Fiat Panda diesel. It runs on the motorway at speeds up to 80mph though normally about 55mph.
Concerning Reality Diesel far out-performs petrol in MPG, and your video is more about petrol vehicles - well the numbers you give sound like petrol numbers, diesel could be included in those averages but because it's a small fraction of total vehicles it wouldn't affect the average much. In Britain they tax diesel much more than petrol, making it more expensive than petrol (in nearly every other country diesel is cheaper, because it's cheaper to produce). This partly negates the efficiency advantage of diesel when it comes to fuel costs. But diesel still works out cheaper most of the time, because the increased MPG is bigger than the increased cost.
Why can't the car companies just make the cars more efficient when it come to MPG? They KNOW how to do this with very little effort, and I know this because of the 1973 Shell Oil Mileage Marathon (Here's one of the cars that was in the race that managed 376 miles per gallon ). Can anyone with any knowledge around engines tell me WHY these tricks that this car had could not be implemented into a modern car of today? That car weighing in at 2500 pounds could achieve that kind of mileage with only 1 gallon of fuel? If you look at the video he explains some of the tricks by one of them is heating the fuel up to a certain degrees and insulating the tank which keeps the fuel warm and easily makes it vaporize before entering the chamber for ignition, which means that the droplets nozzle used today and room temperature liquid fuel is just that, a VERY inefficient way of using the fuel and they KNOW IT! All explosive effect engines work with gas which should tell you something.
Giant low rpm diesel engines in ships reach efficiencies of up to 55%. That is near the absolute maximum possible for piston driven engines. Diesels in cars are much smaller and need to run faster leading to more losses so their maximum efficiencies are around 45% and there isnt a lot more you can get out of them. Now the maximum efficiency is only at a single rpm in last gear at a specific load. So youre more like to see efficiencies during cruising at around 30 to 35%. Hybrid systems can actually keep combustion engines at their max efficiencies constantly by using the electric engine as a generator or well an engine.
Not only the weight, but wouldn't the increased amount of speed a vehicle can achieve also effect the mpg? Like a model T going 75 I feel wouldn't be getting 30 mpg
DesertMayhem88 There are number of petrol enginea that can average 50mpg, like ford 1.0 Ecoboost, Peugeot 3 cilinder unit and VW 1.4 150 PS engine. I am not sure if you get those in the USA, but they prove the point that even a petrol engine can do 50 MPG
Yavor Ivanov Indeed! Those are tiny engines though, and aren't very popular so won't affect averages that much. But definitely we have plenty of 30+ petrol and 50+ diesel engines in common use here (Europe, UK). I think American cars are bigger and heavier (as the video mentions is a big factor), and typically have more powerful fuel-hungry engines - despite speed limits being up to 80 MPH in Europe and only up to 55-60 MPH in the USA as far as I know. One thing to note is that fuel efficiency has been getting worse in Europe due entirely to emissions regulations! We are in a situation where we buy a new van (of the same model - very similar weight and size) every couple od years, and sometimes have to rent an even newer one. As the emission standards have gone from "euro 4" through to "euro 6", the fuel economy has got significantly worse - 50 MPG down to 38-42 MPG then down to about 35 MPG on the euro 6. That is because changes have been made to reduce the amount of NO2, CO and particulates. One big change is a valve that diverts exhaust back into the engine air intake! So it breathes its own oxygen-depleted exhaust! This does burn off the CO and other partially-burned chemicals like NO. But, like running with a bag over your mouth and breathing your own exhaled air, it's not gonna be easy or efficient.
@@yavorivanov87 Unfortunately these engines do not apply in the states. As said in the video America is power hungry. We use engines like a Honda's 1.5L with a turbo. Or gm's version again with a turbo. It all ends up being compromised here. Best seen around these parts is in the mid 30s
Yeah claimed mileage is trash in Europe and way more small diesels on the road, which kills the benefit of fuel economy because diesel is basically 2x as much
Well ahm it has. Significantly so. Just yesterday I watched a comparison between 2 VW busses. The classic one from the 1960s and the current one. They tested them side by side and the original bus managed 20 mpg while the modern one with the bigger engine, 8 times the power and almost double the weight managed 32 mpg. Thats a huge difference.
Weight and Bad Aerodynamics is EVERYTHING. Hybrids are the best alternative when it comes to modern powertrains. Take a look at a prius, they can get up to 60mpg. Theyre relatively light at around 3k lbs. Pretty aerodynamic and have a great hybrid system. Consumers just refuse to buy them because of how some have portrayed Prius drivers. That and Men have a hard time fighting their masculinity lol
The Toyota full hybrid system works by running the combustion engine at max efficiency almost all of the times. It does that by either using the electric engine as a generator to increase the load of the combustion engine or use it as an engine during acceleration in addition to the combustion engine.
Cars are getting heavier but that is only part of the story: what is the average weight of a new car in states vs. the rest of the world? In the States, the F-150 is one of the biggest selling 'cars', in Europe it's the Golf (Rabbit) Did the customer 'demand' fully loaded SUVs or is this continued fallout of exempting trucks from legislation such as CAFE? Unfortunately the American market is _so_ large that it's had distorting effect worldwide: the Cayenne (at one point half of *all* Porsche sales) was not developed for the European market... The rest of the world does not share the American appetite for pickups, and though it doesn't undermine your point, the figures you quote would be considered pretty poor in Europe; as a rule of thumb I'd expect anything that gets under 40mpg (35 US) as poor unless it's big or fast. My current car is both fun and frugal - 58mpg (51 US) on rough country roads, and that's before you allow for that average speeds are also higher in Europe It's also revealing that your chosen graphic for a 'car' is evidently based on a Suzuki Vitara, which again most of the rest of the world would see as a jeep or 4x4 (with high ground clearance / frontal area and 4WD, neither great for efficiency) rather than a car such as the Golf
I love my truck and its 15 mpg. I don’t need the 4wd often or need the cargo capacity, but It sure helps when I need to shovel mulch into the yard, transport dirt, gravel, pine needles, lawn equipment, etc. And the 4wd is good for when you need to drive over wet grass when inspecting land or hunting. I would not be able to do most of these in a smaller European car. And that’s just basic life responsibilities and occurrences that allow me to have a truck, it’s not a job or a personal liking. I could buy an AWD Hybrid SUV and put a 2 inch lift on it, but trucks are much more easy to acquire and work on yourself if anything goes wrong.
@@TheNuclearBolton Why do you 'love' its 15mpg? That figure could be easily improved on without compromising _any_ of the other aspects you enjoy - and *should* have been: all it would take is modest investment but in the absence of a legislative push money was split between the lobbyists & shareholders instead - and then they had to be bailed out. _IF_ the industry had been forced to improve, your domestic brands would have been better able to meet the challenge of imports and consequently still enjoy a market share like they used to. Maybe _you_ do use your truck as intended but - be honest - how typical is that overall (especially in an increasingly urbanised population)? My brother runs a civil engineering / plant trading business and, like you, needs genuine off road, load carrying and towing capacity. Few years back, really wanted Disco (LR3) but for all the marketing it's not capable or reliable enough - as is the case for pretty much every other SUV out there. He had 5 Nissan Patrols (a genuinely impressive and capable workhorse) before they were discontinued in the UK for lack of demand(!). His new VW Amarok IS up to the job - and gets 28-32mpg... (funnily enough he did look as US pickup, but the import and especially the running costs ruled it out) Most of what you mentioned could be achieved with a towbar & small trailer; though British I now live in Ireland and that's what they do here. Just helped a neighbour buy a 'new' car: diesel saloon, 40+mpg, all mod cons (& an interior much nicer than what you put up with over there) 140k miles up with easily another 100k left in it and quite happy towing an animal to market on a Thursday night. Had timing belt done recently at my garage, but I'm only taking it back there for a wheel bearing because currently lacking space and tools otherwise I'd have done myself (OK, ok maybe not - wheel bearing's a crappy job that's cheap enough to pay someone else to do ;-P ) Yes, there are fundamental differences here, e.g. the roads road here are rough, narrow & twisty and distances smaller - but that does not fully account for the differences in the vehicles
So we basically build cars out of lighter materials, and the technology itself is built from lighter materials as well then. That would be the solution? Or are we just too picky and thanks to our choices, the cars will never improve gas mileage because of the fact that we want all these amenities and safety features?
Those little European econoboxes that get around 50 miles per U.S. gallon won't pass U.S. crash safety standards. Also, U.S. roads have higher average speeds than European roads, so that 50 mpg, will be more like 40 here in real world driving.
Actually your wrong with with the speed limit. Average City USA: 30 mph, Europe: 50 km/h (31mph) Average Country USA: 45-60 mph, Europe 60-100 km/h (38-62 mph) Highway (USA lowest Hawaii: 60 mph, Europe lowest Netherlands: 100 km/h (62 mph)) Highest (USA Highest Texas: 80 mph (1 Toll road is 85 mph), Europe Highest Poland / Germany: Poland 140 km/h (86 mph) and Germany 130 (80 mph) is recommended but you can go faster. Most common Highway speed USA: 70-75 mph, Europe: 120 to 130 km/h (74-80 mph).
Engine tech increases horsepower per cubic inch but horsepower per gallon is set by the chemistry of gasoline. Drag goes up by the speed squared, ie drag at 70mph is 4x what it is at 35mph.
What wasn't mentioned is that (correct me if wrong) heavier cars wouldn't be less efficient if you never had to break. Assuming the engines are the same, you'll be able to coast longer without consuming more fuel than a lighter car, though burn more fuel to get to the same speed.
No, that's not how it works. Sure, the car has more potential energy. But the increased weight also increases the friction and air resistance with the road.
There's another factor: size and power of the engines. If You drive a big V8 or V -or W 12 with 4-6l displacement and several hundred horses, those horses are thirsty. My 2013 Toyota RAV4 2.0 turbodiesel developes just 91kW (that's enough for 210km/h on the German Autobahn) and has an average consumption of 5.8l per 100km, that's about 40mpg. Not bad for a 4WD SUV that weighs 1,7 tons.
We're sending a probe to the sun but my car still wastes more gas than a vehicle from the 30's. Make Nikola Tesla's patents open; trumps uncle, make fuel efficient patents available oil companies.
Ok, the title is misleading. The fact is, technology has allowed large gains is fuel economy. But there are many factors you described that make economy look like it hasn't improved. The other major factor you did not include is average vehicle speed. We're not traveling around at 15-25 mph like when the Model T was the best selling vehicle in America either.
This is a way oversimplification. 1. Weight is only impactful in city. It does not impact highway mileage. See Newton’s first law. 2. It’s frontal area that is the issue. Cars are way larger (size not weight). They may have better coefficients but the size is what hurts it. 3. Speed - speed limits continue to rise. There’s no way a model t was getting 30mpg at 80mph. Likely couldn’t even reach that speed. TLDR - garbage video full of half truths.
@@creatineenjoyer7345 weight is negligible when at a constant speed, due to inertia. Weight will definitely have a huge impact on acceleration (and fuel required to accelerate), cornering and braking.
@@Maverick09171 so a 3000 and a 4000 pound car would have the same highway mileage if they have the same frontal area, drag coefficient and tire size/tire rolling resistance?
those are improvements also there was i think back even in the 50s or something like that supposed to be a car that got like 50 miles per gallon but the "laws" we allowed to be enforced on us prevented it from becoming a thing 🤦🏻♂️
Gas is getting more expensive and it's not effecting the market as much. Yeah truck sales have decreased, but they still sell far more trucks than cars. Not to mention the big three don't even offer small fuel efficient cars, and the ones they do offer have awful styling.
@@johannes914 yeah, charge 7 dollars a gallon suddenly you can't sell your old car, are 40k in debt so you can't buy a new one, and now your living out of your f250. It's that simple.
Facts: We can easily make vehicles that last 1 million miles plus. We can easily make vehicles that run 100 mpg! Why don’t we? It is called money and profits. We are all lied to on a daily basis.
One percent of the population establishes the "standard model" for everything. Steam engines and Stirling engines are profoundly better than the Otto Cycle engine. A car with a Stirling engine would easily run for a million miles at a fraction of the cost. But the world is set up to maximize consumption to feed the central banking systems. The idea is to consume as much of your resources and create as many limitations as possible.
This doesn't make sense. Regardless if vehicles have gone up in weight, the oil companies are whats benefitting from fuel prices increasing and mpg remaining the same. IT wouldn't be adventagous for them to increasre the miles per gallon, they then, plus shareholders would lose money. Lets face it, greed and money drives most initiatives in the world.
Concerning Reality I think if you were to have started your channel before RLL, (which is the channel closest in format to yours) you would have had at least 1 million subscribers!
You title why..... another is why hasn’t car prices come down. They never will. They will always adjust for inflation and to current dollars value. Time for a change in industry. Let’s get some competition and real innovation. The big 3 have to fade away. They haven’t done enough for the last 50 years.
This video is hilarious. Vehicles from the 90s are 30% more fuel efficient than vehicles from the 70s, and vehicles from the 2010s are 20% more fuel efficient than vehicles from the 90s. Vehicles from the 2010s are 56% more efficient than the vehicles from the 70s. Just look at a 2017 Chevy Impala vs a 1977 Chevy Impala. The 2017 is drastically faster, safer, roomier, more refined, and yes, way more fuel efficient. People get 23 mpg all the time in a 3.6 Impala. Imagine how hard you'd have to try to get 23 mpg in a 250 cubic inch Impala.
That awful music makes this unwatchable but this is a lie. Efficiency has improved greatly when you consider that cars now have much smaller engines pushing much more weight while also driving things like air conditioning.
This is Wildly inaccurate and selected information to meet your own narrative... Yes the model T got 30 miles per gallon that had a top speed of what 25? A mitsubishi Mirage is heavier than a model T and capable of getting 42 Miles per gallon at a speed of 55... Yes trucks do way more now in some categories but also produce significant power and hauling capabilities compared to their less efficient counterpart... This isn't even bringing in safety ratings or death in automotive accidents. Yeah the Volkswagen bug and the sixties got 30 miles per gallon but the steering wheel wouldn't pay you if you got into a front end collision... Is thus heavier vehicles with more safety regulations.. Yes making vehicles Lighter would improve fuel economy. But it's debatable that The cost saving in fuel would not offset the safety or handling on the road..
Haha, just a fact though. It's processed much differently to make cars more reliable than previous ones. Doesn't gunk up and clog any lines (other than diesels) easily.
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To our non-US Friends: We're sorry we didn't include any conversions in the video! :( A quick conversion from MPG is 1 MPG = .425 km/l. The quickest way to think about it would be to just divide our numbers by 2 and you're left with a rough estimate to km/l :) We're trying to include conversions on our future videos :) P.S. Yes, Imperial is terrible. Metric is the far superior measurement system.
FYI in the rest of the world we use l/100km not km/l. Most cars in Europe average around 40 mpg with some in the 70 to 80 mpg range.
robbie diaz and 90 MPG +
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You forgot about the part where big oil companies were paying car manufacturers to not produce more fuel efficient vehicles. Or how in the early 1900s Ford created a vehicle that got 90 miles per gallon but then the US scrapped the idea. Or how a lot of European countries had cars getting 50 miles per gallon way before Toyota came out with the Prius
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Great video. Maybe you can explain how, when I was driving an 18 wheeler with major drag and weighing 50 to 60k lbs, I was getting around 10mpg. Weighing 1000% or more than an average vehicle. A 1 to 1 comparison would be 100 mpg for the vehicle. I know that's not logical, but, why not, at least, half of that?
They have designed 18 wheelers to get their best mileage at exactly the speed you are supposed to be travelling at for most of your time. Cars do a lot more city driving where the speed fluctuates a lot. You have around 10 forward gears which gives you more control over getting in that eco sweet-spot for good mileage. Probably the biggest difference is that the difference between maximum RPM and cruising RPM of an engine greatly affects its mileage because to limit RPM you have to choke the air intake, which reduces efficiency. So a car engine capable of going 7,000 RPM has to seriously choke the intake to go 2,300 RPM for highway driving, but your rig probably has a maximum around 2,800 RPM and you drive on highways around 1,500 RPM. The closer those two numbers are, the less you are chocking the intake. In simple terms, the best mileage you can get in a car is when it is cruising at one speed, and when accelerating as fast as it can it is accelerating about as quickly as an 18 wheeler, that means that its fully open airways are only a little more open than at its cruising speed. The Prius kept its engine at fully open throttle/choke and generated enough energy to recharge a battery, then it ran electric motors off that battery and turned off the gas engine. Electric motors are more efficient because they produce almost no heat when they run. Also, the Prius saved the heat of its coolant so that when the engine needed to turn back on for more electricity it didn't have to warm up the engine, because it costs a little extra fuel to warm up an engine.
Lower wind resistance
Diesel engine are just better
Also it's huge and normally bigger a engine is the more efficient it is
Economy of scale my friend.
@@vladimirlenin843 the numbers still did not add up. If a vehicle that huge with that much drag can still get 9 to 10 miles per gallon, there is no reason why a significantly smaller vehicle should only get double the amount of miles per gallon. It should get at least three or four times more
Because it's not about the weight, it's about how much air you're pushing out of the way
I do 60mpg every week doing up to 300 miles in a week. I drive a Fiat Panda diesel. It runs on the motorway at speeds up to 80mph though normally about 55mph.
Fantastic! This video refers to average fuel economy. 🙂
Concerning Reality Diesel far out-performs petrol in MPG, and your video is more about petrol vehicles - well the numbers you give sound like petrol numbers, diesel could be included in those averages but because it's a small fraction of total vehicles it wouldn't affect the average much.
In Britain they tax diesel much more than petrol, making it more expensive than petrol (in nearly every other country diesel is cheaper, because it's cheaper to produce). This partly negates the efficiency advantage of diesel when it comes to fuel costs. But diesel still works out cheaper most of the time, because the increased MPG is bigger than the increased cost.
Why can't the car companies just make the cars more efficient when it come to MPG?
They KNOW how to do this with very little effort, and I know this because of the 1973 Shell Oil Mileage Marathon (Here's one of the cars that was in the race that managed 376 miles per gallon ). Can anyone with any knowledge around engines tell me WHY these tricks that this car had could not be implemented into a modern car of today?
That car weighing in at 2500 pounds could achieve that kind of mileage with only 1 gallon of fuel?
If you look at the video he explains some of the tricks by one of them is heating the fuel up to a certain degrees and insulating the tank which keeps the fuel warm and easily makes it vaporize before entering the chamber for ignition, which means that the droplets nozzle used today and room temperature liquid fuel is just that, a VERY inefficient way of using the fuel and they KNOW IT!
All explosive effect engines work with gas which should tell you something.
Giant low rpm diesel engines in ships reach efficiencies of up to 55%. That is near the absolute maximum possible for piston driven engines. Diesels in cars are much smaller and need to run faster leading to more losses so their maximum efficiencies are around 45% and there isnt a lot more you can get out of them. Now the maximum efficiency is only at a single rpm in last gear at a specific load. So youre more like to see efficiencies during cruising at around 30 to 35%. Hybrid systems can actually keep combustion engines at their max efficiencies constantly by using the electric engine as a generator or well an engine.
Not only the weight, but wouldn't the increased amount of speed a vehicle can achieve also effect the mpg? Like a model T going 75 I feel wouldn't be getting 30 mpg
20-30 MPG in 2018? Come on! Most new cars we drive here in Europe have claimed MPG of 50 - 70 MPG and average between 35 and 55 MPG.
These are averages in the US
DesertMayhem88 There are number of petrol enginea that can average 50mpg, like ford 1.0 Ecoboost, Peugeot 3 cilinder unit and VW 1.4 150 PS engine. I am not sure if you get those in the USA, but they prove the point that even a petrol engine can do 50 MPG
Yavor Ivanov Indeed! Those are tiny engines though, and aren't very popular so won't affect averages that much. But definitely we have plenty of 30+ petrol and 50+ diesel engines in common use here (Europe, UK). I think American cars are bigger and heavier (as the video mentions is a big factor), and typically have more powerful fuel-hungry engines - despite speed limits being up to 80 MPH in Europe and only up to 55-60 MPH in the USA as far as I know.
One thing to note is that fuel efficiency has been getting worse in Europe due entirely to emissions regulations! We are in a situation where we buy a new van (of the same model - very similar weight and size) every couple od years, and sometimes have to rent an even newer one. As the emission standards have gone from "euro 4" through to "euro 6", the fuel economy has got significantly worse - 50 MPG down to 38-42 MPG then down to about 35 MPG on the euro 6.
That is because changes have been made to reduce the amount of NO2, CO and particulates. One big change is a valve that diverts exhaust back into the engine air intake! So it breathes its own oxygen-depleted exhaust! This does burn off the CO and other partially-burned chemicals like NO. But, like running with a bag over your mouth and breathing your own exhaled air, it's not gonna be easy or efficient.
@@yavorivanov87 Unfortunately these engines do not apply in the states. As said in the video America is power hungry. We use engines like a Honda's 1.5L with a turbo. Or gm's version again with a turbo. It all ends up being compromised here. Best seen around these parts is in the mid 30s
Yeah claimed mileage is trash in Europe and way more small diesels on the road, which kills the benefit of fuel economy because diesel is basically 2x as much
Well ahm it has. Significantly so. Just yesterday I watched a comparison between 2 VW busses. The classic one from the 1960s and the current one. They tested them side by side and the original bus managed 20 mpg while the modern one with the bigger engine, 8 times the power and almost double the weight managed 32 mpg. Thats a huge difference.
I was half expecting a conspiracy but the reason you proposed is a great explanation why the MPG had stayed near constant.
Thanks! Yeah, nearly all of the comments I’ve gotten about this have been “it’s because big oil wouldn’t allow it!” 😂
technically they did because shell bought the rights to a 100mpg car and never released it also know under the tom ogle conspiracy
Weight and Bad Aerodynamics is EVERYTHING. Hybrids are the best alternative when it comes to modern powertrains. Take a look at a prius, they can get up to 60mpg. Theyre relatively light at around 3k lbs. Pretty aerodynamic and have a great hybrid system. Consumers just refuse to buy them because of how some have portrayed Prius drivers. That and Men have a hard time fighting their masculinity lol
The Toyota full hybrid system works by running the combustion engine at max efficiency almost all of the times. It does that by either using the electric engine as a generator to increase the load of the combustion engine or use it as an engine during acceleration in addition to the combustion engine.
my moped gets like 125 miles to the gallon... 125 very slow miles...
Lol mopeds for the (slow) win!
Cars are getting heavier but that is only part of the story: what is the average weight of a new car in states vs. the rest of the world? In the States, the F-150 is one of the biggest selling 'cars', in Europe it's the Golf (Rabbit)
Did the customer 'demand' fully loaded SUVs or is this continued fallout of exempting trucks from legislation such as CAFE? Unfortunately the American market is _so_ large that it's had distorting effect worldwide: the Cayenne (at one point half of *all* Porsche sales) was not developed for the European market...
The rest of the world does not share the American appetite for pickups, and though it doesn't undermine your point, the figures you quote would be considered pretty poor in Europe; as a rule of thumb I'd expect anything that gets under 40mpg (35 US) as poor unless it's big or fast. My current car is both fun and frugal - 58mpg (51 US) on rough country roads, and that's before you allow for that average speeds are also higher in Europe
It's also revealing that your chosen graphic for a 'car' is evidently based on a Suzuki Vitara, which again most of the rest of the world would see as a jeep or 4x4 (with high ground clearance / frontal area and 4WD, neither great for efficiency) rather than a car such as the Golf
I love my truck and its 15 mpg. I don’t need the 4wd often or need the cargo capacity, but It sure helps when I need to shovel mulch into the yard, transport dirt, gravel, pine needles, lawn equipment, etc. And the 4wd is good for when you need to drive over wet grass when inspecting land or hunting. I would not be able to do most of these in a smaller European car. And that’s just basic life responsibilities and occurrences that allow me to have a truck, it’s not a job or a personal liking. I could buy an AWD Hybrid SUV and put a 2 inch lift on it, but trucks are much more easy to acquire and work on yourself if anything goes wrong.
@@TheNuclearBolton Why do you 'love' its 15mpg? That figure could be easily improved on without compromising _any_ of the other aspects you enjoy - and *should* have been: all it would take is modest investment but in the absence of a legislative push money was split between the lobbyists & shareholders instead - and then they had to be bailed out. _IF_ the industry had been forced to improve, your domestic brands would have been better able to meet the challenge of imports and consequently still enjoy a market share like they used to.
Maybe _you_ do use your truck as intended but - be honest - how typical is that overall (especially in an increasingly urbanised population)? My brother runs a civil engineering / plant trading business and, like you, needs genuine off road, load carrying and towing capacity. Few years back, really wanted Disco (LR3) but for all the marketing it's not capable or reliable enough - as is the case for pretty much every other SUV out there. He had 5 Nissan Patrols (a genuinely impressive and capable workhorse) before they were discontinued in the UK for lack of demand(!). His new VW Amarok IS up to the job - and gets 28-32mpg... (funnily enough he did look as US pickup, but the import and especially the running costs ruled it out)
Most of what you mentioned could be achieved with a towbar & small trailer; though British I now live in Ireland and that's what they do here. Just helped a neighbour buy a 'new' car: diesel saloon, 40+mpg, all mod cons (& an interior much nicer than what you put up with over there) 140k miles up with easily another 100k left in it and quite happy towing an animal to market on a Thursday night. Had timing belt done recently at my garage, but I'm only taking it back there for a wheel bearing because currently lacking space and tools otherwise I'd have done myself (OK, ok maybe not - wheel bearing's a crappy job that's cheap enough to pay someone else to do ;-P )
Yes, there are fundamental differences here, e.g. the roads road here are rough, narrow & twisty and distances smaller - but that does not fully account for the differences in the vehicles
So we basically build cars out of lighter materials, and the technology itself is built from lighter materials as well then. That would be the solution? Or are we just too picky and thanks to our choices, the cars will never improve gas mileage because of the fact that we want all these amenities and safety features?
@concerning Reality A link to EPA publication please @2:55
Those little European econoboxes that get around 50 miles per U.S. gallon won't pass U.S. crash safety standards. Also, U.S. roads have higher average speeds than European roads, so that 50 mpg, will be more like 40 here in real world driving.
Actually your wrong with with the speed limit.
Average City USA: 30 mph, Europe: 50 km/h (31mph)
Average Country USA: 45-60 mph, Europe 60-100 km/h (38-62 mph)
Highway (USA lowest Hawaii: 60 mph, Europe lowest Netherlands: 100 km/h (62 mph))
Highest (USA Highest Texas: 80 mph (1 Toll road is 85 mph), Europe Highest Poland / Germany: Poland 140 km/h (86 mph) and Germany 130 (80 mph) is recommended but you can go faster.
Most common Highway speed USA: 70-75 mph, Europe: 120 to 130 km/h (74-80 mph).
Ill have you know Im from europe and specifically germany. You were talking about average road speeds :D
Engine tech increases horsepower per cubic inch but horsepower per gallon is set by the chemistry of gasoline. Drag goes up by the speed squared, ie drag at 70mph is 4x what it is at 35mph.
What wasn't mentioned is that (correct me if wrong) heavier cars wouldn't be less efficient if you never had to break. Assuming the engines are the same, you'll be able to coast longer without consuming more fuel than a lighter car, though burn more fuel to get to the same speed.
No, that's not how it works. Sure, the car has more potential energy. But the increased weight also increases the friction and air resistance with the road.
@@matthewkinney5474 I follow on the friction, but air resistance how?
@@loafofuraniumfreshlybaked569 oh I was just assuming that a heavier car would be larger dimensionally.
@@matthewkinney5474 That be the norm, ye.
It definitely has
There's another factor: size and power of the engines. If You drive a big V8 or V -or W 12 with 4-6l displacement and several hundred horses, those horses are thirsty.
My 2013 Toyota RAV4 2.0 turbodiesel developes just 91kW (that's enough for 210km/h on the German Autobahn) and has an average consumption of 5.8l per 100km, that's about 40mpg. Not bad for a 4WD SUV that weighs 1,7 tons.
We're sending a probe to the sun but my car still wastes more gas than a vehicle from the 30's. Make Nikola Tesla's patents open; trumps uncle, make fuel efficient patents available oil companies.
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Cough* cough* oil companies wanting you to buy more gas
I get 60mpg from my toyota iq. On the motorway at 65 mph I get nearly 70 mpg. That's a 1 litre petrol engine
we need a better fuel delivery system like carburetor that vaporizes fuel first making car more efficient per gallon and less green house gases
Well there is Smokey Yunick's vapor power system...
No no, the bigger question, is why don’t all cars have over 1000hp? I’m joking but man I wish I had a race car
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Thank you!! We’ll keep the good stuff coming 🙂
Yamaha WR250R = 79 mpg (estimated)
Yet another excellent video, keep it up!
Thank you!🙂
Ok, the title is misleading. The fact is, technology has allowed large gains is fuel economy. But there are many factors you described that make economy look like it hasn't improved. The other major factor you did not include is average vehicle speed. We're not traveling around at 15-25 mph like when the Model T was the best selling vehicle in America either.
This is a way oversimplification. 1. Weight is only impactful in city. It does not impact highway mileage. See Newton’s first law.
2. It’s frontal area that is the issue. Cars are way larger (size not weight). They may have better coefficients but the size is what hurts it.
3. Speed - speed limits continue to rise. There’s no way a model t was getting 30mpg at 80mph. Likely couldn’t even reach that speed.
TLDR - garbage video full of half truths.
Bro, why wouldnt weight impact highway fuel economy? You still have a heavier car that the engine had to pull?
@@creatineenjoyer7345 weight is negligible when at a constant speed, due to inertia.
Weight will definitely have a huge impact on acceleration (and fuel required to accelerate), cornering and braking.
@@Maverick09171 so a 3000 and a 4000 pound car would have the same highway mileage if they have the same frontal area, drag coefficient and tire size/tire rolling resistance?
@@creatineenjoyer7345 yep, exactly
@@Maverick09171 thats amazing
Hybrid vehicles solved the weight problem.
those are improvements also there was i think back even in the 50s or something like that supposed to be a car that got like 50 miles per gallon but the "laws" we allowed to be enforced on us prevented it from becoming a thing 🤦🏻♂️
Mpg is not "efficiency." Efficiency is expressed as a percentage.
Expensive gas = problem solved
Gas is getting more expensive and it's not effecting the market as much. Yeah truck sales have decreased, but they still sell far more trucks than cars. Not to mention the big three don't even offer small fuel efficient cars, and the ones they do offer have awful styling.
@@lazzie7495 See prices of gas in Europe and check car sales...
@@johannes914 yeah, charge 7 dollars a gallon suddenly you can't sell your old car, are 40k in debt so you can't buy a new one, and now your living out of your f250. It's that simple.
My Audi A3 gets 45 US mpg on average
I can easily do over 42 mpg in my turbo diesel Hyundai SUV ix35 that weights 1500 kg on the open road and 37 city.
Facts: We can easily make vehicles that last 1 million miles plus. We can easily make vehicles that run 100 mpg! Why don’t we? It is called money and profits. We are all lied to on a daily basis.
One percent of the population establishes the "standard model" for everything. Steam engines and Stirling engines are profoundly better than the Otto Cycle engine. A car with a Stirling engine would easily run for a million miles at a fraction of the cost. But the world is set up to maximize consumption to feed the central banking systems. The idea is to consume as much of your resources and create as many limitations as possible.
This doesn't make sense. Regardless if vehicles have gone up in weight, the oil companies are whats benefitting from fuel prices increasing and mpg remaining the same. IT wouldn't be adventagous for them to increasre the miles per gallon, they then, plus shareholders would lose money. Lets face it, greed and money drives most initiatives in the world.
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That is an amazing complement as they’re my inspirations! Thank you🙂✌🏻
Concerning Reality I think if you were to have started your channel before RLL, (which is the channel closest in format to yours) you would have had at least 1 million subscribers!
You title why..... another is why hasn’t car prices come down. They never will. They will always adjust for inflation and to current dollars value. Time for a change in industry. Let’s get some competition and real innovation. The big 3 have to fade away. They haven’t done enough for the last 50 years.
Conversions to metric please.
We usually do, they just didn’t make it in on this video. We have conversions noted in the video description 🙂👌🏻
Misleading caption
This video is hilarious. Vehicles from the 90s are 30% more fuel efficient than vehicles from the 70s, and vehicles from the 2010s are 20% more fuel efficient than vehicles from the 90s. Vehicles from the 2010s are 56% more efficient than the vehicles from the 70s. Just look at a 2017 Chevy Impala vs a 1977 Chevy Impala. The 2017 is drastically faster, safer, roomier, more refined, and yes, way more fuel efficient. People get 23 mpg all the time in a 3.6 Impala. Imagine how hard you'd have to try to get 23 mpg in a 250 cubic inch Impala.
Advertising for trucks did this creating a unnecessary purchase
Cars before the 1930s averaged 20-25 mph......
That awful music makes this unwatchable but this is a lie. Efficiency has improved greatly when you consider that cars now have much smaller engines pushing much more weight while also driving things like air conditioning.
This is Wildly inaccurate and selected information to meet your own narrative... Yes the model T got 30 miles per gallon that had a top speed of what 25?
A mitsubishi Mirage is heavier than a model T and capable of getting 42 Miles per gallon at a speed of 55...
Yes trucks do way more now in some categories but also produce significant power and hauling capabilities compared to their less efficient counterpart...
This isn't even bringing in safety ratings or death in automotive accidents. Yeah the Volkswagen bug and the sixties got 30 miles per gallon but the steering wheel wouldn't pay you if you got into a front end collision... Is thus heavier vehicles with more safety regulations..
Yes making vehicles Lighter would improve fuel economy. But it's debatable that The cost saving in fuel would not offset the safety or handling on the road..
Because the government doesn’t want it to!!!
because you can't move a big hunk of metal around for free, energy wise.
POV: your teacher made you watch this
WW1.throwing Bombs from a biplane to 1980s ICBMs. Yet mileage is about the same hmmmmm
Weight go fast and emissions
Watered down gas.
YeAhhh.... no
Haha, just a fact though. It's processed much differently to make cars more reliable than previous ones. Doesn't gunk up and clog any lines (other than diesels) easily.
Why the gay voice?
That's just what he sounds like. I think it's a regional accent from somewhere in California. Not sure why it became associated with gay people.
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