"48 Hours": Young American couple adopted a 9-year-old Russian girl and later became afraid of her
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2021
- More than two decades ago, an American couple traveled overseas to adopt a young girl, but they came to fear her. "48 Hours" contributor Troy Roberts sat down with the girl years later to hear her surprising story.
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This is Reactive Attachment Disorder. This little girl suffered trauma for nine years and then was expected to act like a child with no trauma. The trauma she suffered is emotional and at a level she can’t even understand. There was very little information on RAD at that time so the parents would not have understood. Rad is very common in adopted and foster children and there are many parents and children struggling to live life maneuvering around it. Don’t judge until you fully understand this disorder.
Thank you.
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Oh please. Everything's a disorder now. "He throws a tantrum when we don't give him candy for breakfast, it's a disorder."
"She steals her sister's toys all the time, it's a disorder."
"He talks over the teacher in class every day, it's a disorder."
"He bullies kids at school, it's a disorder."
"She punches her mom when she doesn't get her way, it's a disorder."
"He cheats on his wife constantly, it's a disorder."
"She murdered him for the life insurance, it's a disorder."
People need to stop inviting new disorders and start admitting people act the way they do because it's their personality.
@@YouRemindMeOfTheBabe. you realize having a disorder affects people’s personality right? If someone is born with a disorder then it’ll effect how they are from birth and then talking about disorders picked say from trauma and abuse will also greatly effect a person’s personality especially when it’s a case of a girl being moved across the world and then returned like an object imagine what that does to a kids psyche and especially coming from a place like Russia which is known for being cruel and neglectful to children in its care WILL cause psychological issues and disorders it’s not “a new disorder” or “just her personality” these are legitimate mental disorders caused by abuse and neglect from the people who were supposed to take care of and love her please do five seconds of psychology research before saying disorders are fake and people don’t want to blame it on personality because it often isn’t just personality
I’d like to add it’s not just trauma these kids have. But they are lacking in the development they need. Trust is formed in the first year of life when a mother responds to her child. The person they have bonded with for nine months. These kids don’t develop that trust. Cognitive development happens by age three. Plus some of these kids have fetal alcohol syndrome. Which will have a permanent affect on them.
These poor traumatized children need treatment and love. All children are precious and do not deserve to be dumped. Her resilience is a miracle.
I hope she never met this awful woman dumping her back to russia like trash poor girl
Krunky K
These poor babies, children in Russian orphanages have never experienced the love, hugs and warmth of their mother. They just lay in cribs. No social skills. It seemed to be almost a fad for Americans to adopt these kids. It never seemed to work out due to the children's behavior. Almost like Autistic behavior. A lot of the kids were returned to the orphanage. Very sad.
@@lysianeamougou
The woman refused to meet the young woman that she returned to the orphanage.
Even though she's a mother of 4?, married and works in a hospital. Another American couple adopted her after the fiasco, there were no problems!
the adoption agency essentially gave them a child with a severe disability emotional disturbances mental health issues and personality disorders are also prevalent in children. Imagine picking up child that you think is healthy and realizing they have so many issues you have to quit your job because the school can't even handle "it"
RAD is another name for sociopath and narcissist LMAO do you think the disorder goes away for these kids when they become adults???? instead of RAD they call it something else and people aren't as accepting of adults with the disorder they aren't small and cute enough
The problem started when she was labeled the "Perfect Child." I don't think she ever seen herself as perfect and was crying out for help.
Or, she was so traumatized during her earliest childhood years, experiencing abandonment issue. She rejected them, internally yearned for her biological parents and all she became familiar with: Sense of not belonging whether real or imagined.
I love how the reporter showed more love to the girl than her adopted parents. I feel like they drove her insane.
She was a cold blooded killer
Yeah he just met hey for a day or two...She needed help that's all.
Would you keep a demon girl in your house and risk her actually cold-blooded killing your son??
@@user-lv4ov5rp6d you heard one side of the story lol
Ju Lee
I love Troy Roberts for his coverage and interest in this poor girl. He cared! Then adopts a boy and raised him into a wonderful
man. There should be more people who really care.
You can’t blame her. She must have a terrible life when she was really young. Now the adopted parents are rejecting her too. Can’t imagine what that can do to a kid.
Yeah that's awful
But you can,t blame the parents also, if she was carrying away knives and acting strange would you have kept her. Risking your lives and her baby brother, be real.🤨
@@akilahbrowne2623 I wouldn’t do that to a child. Returning a child like she’s an object. I would get her some professional help and have her stay at the psychiatric center. Would you really do that if you truly love your child?
@@akilahbrowne2623 what would happen if your biological child did that? It shouldn’t be different for an adopted child…
@@christinagaller4374 but you will put her in pyshiatric hospital, how is that different from returning the child, sometimes people stay years in those medical facilities. 🤨
It’s really shocking that parents are able to just SEND BACK adopted children like they’re returning shoes.
You can't image what some would resort to if they couldn't? You dont have to be a simp your whole life
Would you rather those parents keep them? Your personal morals don't matter, the kid matters. I wouldn't want ppl responsible for a child they don't want, no matter the reason.
@@anthonyman8008 agreed
That's just messed up
Well if they are murderers you better
The problem started when they decided to rename a child Frim a different country and not bothering to learn their culture, language, and her back ground to know how to best help her.
@@shellshipman3853 😂
I was lucky enough to have been adopted from Russia, and I can't imagine the hurt that little girl feels for her family giving up on her.
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How are you doing? Do you have lasting issues from being in an orphanage?
I am happy for you.
I am single mother of a boy 12 y old.and I have a beautiful adopt daughter.I am adopted her since she was born.she was 15 y old this year.
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@@stephaniemartin-ward4578 I hope she doesn't.
My parents had five children and then decided to adopt. They wanted to adopt from South America and our family grew. My mum and dad, would fly back every year and my brothers met their birth parents. My parents then went on to foster over 200 kids as we were all growing up and leaving home. We have a amazing family, Christmas is always so busy and fun. I’m heartbroken for this lady to of been treated like that. I hope she can heal. ❤️
I want to be a foster parent when my own kids grow up. I had them young... my youngest was born when I was 27. Three of my four kiddos are autistic, as is my husband. He is much older than me, so he isn't going to be here forever (unfortunately.) I have SO much experience with autistic kids and kids with other cognitive issues. I think I could be a great help to some kiddos needing a home and a mom. I have a 6 bedroom, 3000 sq ft house in a small mountain town. Once my kids grow up and move out, I will have a big EMPTY house. My youngest may well live with me forever, but I'm totally cool with that!
@@psychicrenegade I’m sure you will make a fantastic foster mum. ❤️
It makes me cry
I want to foster so much, but I am absolutely terrified of getting so attached, and them being taken away. This is the same reason I stopped wanting to be a veterinarian when I grew up.
200?????
This story broke my heart. I’m so glad she’s happy now.
So you would keep a demon girl in your house and risk her actually cold-blooded killing your son?!
@@user-lv4ov5rp6d she never said that tho-
Amen 🙏
@@user-lv4ov5rp6dshe didn't try to killer her brother tho and she isn't a demon girl
Tbh parents who are adopting need resources and therapists at their disposal. These kids come from different cultures, different backgrounds, different stories. They may come with emotions that never got processed. I mean, sending a kid to a new home just like that with no help for them or the parents is madness.
I wholeheartedly agree! More resources for them…
This is absolutely true.
Awesome idea! We should push for it.
Multiple therapists of multiple cultures. One schooling method misses issues that others catch - it’s never just one feeling. And feelings are why we do things. Without knowing all the feelings you cannot understand all the reactions
@@DJUniMekaju it’s happening these days. I have seen it.
Reactive Attachment Disorder is real. As an adopted child, I experienced this painful Disorder, but not nearly at this level. My heart goes out to her for not only surviving, but thriving.
Ditto!
The USA gives these adopted kids so many unnecessary diagnoses that well all die with them and find out later that it’s not true… so sad… RAD is ‘real’ in children. Children need love and attention all the time, adults do not… everyone has a mental disorder in America. So like shut up?
This happened in my kindergarten class. A child who was adopted from Russia was placed in my room. It wasn’t even the end of the first week, when his behavior became bizarre. He started climbing onto the tables while children were working and kicking them and their supplies onto the floor. The kids were crying from being kicked. He would stick crayons as far up his nose with as many as he could fit to the point where I would have to call the school nurse to come pick him up. He once took children’s scissors and started jabbing inside of his ears with them while he screamed and screamed. Children who have issues like these have to go through a chain of procedures before they can be placed in a proper program that is able to work with them in a much smaller class. But until that day comes, you have to pretty much adjust your daily plans to include time for protecting the other students. This child was one of two adopted from Russia that had been placed in my classroom in different years, who had similar behavioral issues.
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That's so wrong that once super erratic behaviors like like happen the system doesn't immediately step in and the child get promptly assessed. Is this because of inclusitivity?
@@ohthelovelypoems Inclusion and also being able to convince the parents what the best avenue would be to insure that there child’s best interest is all that the school is promoting. Sometimes parents don’t really know how education works from the inside and they are somewhat wary and you have to walk them through the process and allow them to digest what’s being worked out for their child. It’s understandable how they feel.
This is Reactive Attachment Disorder. It is early childhood trauma that affects their brains and development. It is very hard to treat and takes expert therapy.
@@ohthelovelypoems In my experience it was usually just a factor of the school not being aware of prior behavioral problems and the parents being in denial. And a lot of parents don't even realize the resources schools have and are happy to use.
When I was a paraprofessional, the problem my school often had was kids being sent in without an IEP or any plan. Because of this, it could take weeks for us to get them set up in a better class environment. And sometimes the parents would fight us or just sabotage the plan.
One student who did get help was a boy in foster care. We were told weeks in advance that he was coming and that he would have severe and violent behavioral problems because of his upbringing. The head special needs teacher was able to create a plan with his other teachers and by the time he came to us, we were ready. He had a few major outbursts, but the plan kept him mostly on track. His grades and mental heath really improved.
Troy's hug is just everything. You can see the warmth, tenderness and compassion all over him. Glad Sabrina is doing better now!
Considering her upbringing and being an orphan at a young age; coldness, anger, distance, and stealing were some of the ways she was trying to cope with her pain of feeling unwanted and unloved as well as many foster kids act out like that because they cannot believe that they are worth enough to be loved by people who are telling them we're your new parents and we love you and they push every boundary to prove that they are unlovable, I hope to be a foster parent someday and I already know that kids from the system no matter what age need extensive therapy and reassurance probably for the majority of their life
Truth
Sounds to me like you would be a wonderful foster parent. Hope your dream comes true! ✌️♥️
She had RAD. Reactive attachment disorder. Which is notoriously hard to treat, punishments don't work, notoriously dangerous to those around the child. Rad is caused by severe emotional and physical neglect in very young childhood. Your brain literally prevents you from forming attachments to people most especially authority figures. You start lashing out anytime they get too close. I feel very bad for any child that has that but also what the f*** with the parents supposed to do? They only developed a semi effective treatment for rad very recently within the last 10 years. No one could help the parents. The parents had another young child to protect. What were they supposed to do? Punishments wouldn't work.
@@WhitneyDahlin I wondered the same thing about the psychiatric profession not having made enough strides to be able to understand the trauma she was going through. And how deep trauma can go and how it's rooted in our neurological development. Back then the solution was to heavily medicate someone and because therapies weren't working and it's so difficult to treat, I think she got the sense that she was broken and therefore unlovable which made her spiral downward even more. She didn't have the coping skills to deal with her anger in an effective way. The therapeutic protocols at the time didn't appreciate that not all trauma is the same and that you can't treat every trauma the same. The adoptive mom said in the interview "You think you're bringing a bright girl to your and nobody tells you that they are sociopathic and that they have no conscience". I think that is such an unfair statement.
You are absolutely right. They need theraphy because sometimos they reject their new families. It is not easy and you have to be prepared.
Just watched the 48 Hours episode, I have nothing nice to say about the adoptive parents. They clearly favored their son over Sabrina. So glad to see Sabrina is living her best life ever and she has found happiness with her own family.
Do you have that link??
Well said
She stole all my jewelry, if its anything like that cheap crap she has on she should thank.
@@alemarie239 🤣🤣🤣🤣 exactly!! That party city jewelry!
But both were adopted.
I never understand how people can go into adoption without expecting some form of behaviour problems. 99% of these children are damaged in some way. If you don't think you can help them onto the right path(which may take years, or even your lifetime), then don't do it! Adopting and handing the child back just adds to their damage. Adopting is so much harder than having your own child.
It's OK to admit that adoption would not be for you.
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Behavior problems are hitting biting tantrums. Not being a killer. And actually going through with trying to off ppl. She needed to protect one from the other. Unless ppl want her to get rid of the child who isn't a problem.
@@LeeTheLee I mean, every child does bite, kick and tantrum. It's very normal in early development to push those boundaries (and overcoming tantrums is a long and slow process regardless). It only becomes a behaviour problem if it's not corrected early on or actually encouraged by learning from abusive parents. I feel for these kids, they have not been given a good state to life and will struggle as adults.
Agreed
And especially adopting from Eastern Europe. Most of the kids here, the people in general, have severe traumas because of the psychological damage and the poverty the system has done upon them. What do you expect? It's disgusting they do that. But I guess it's comfortable for westerners, to get a child for a couple hundred dollars and return it like it's a pair of shoes.
Behind closed doors, we can’t know who anyone is. It could have been either way. Such a sad story. The Russian “orphans” have it REALLY bad.
Why do you say “orphan” ?
@@johannacrespo1663 most people consider an orphan someone who’s parents have died, hers abandoned her, but she WAS abandoned, so had no parents. I consider her an orphan due to her not having parents.
Yeah they are. People must learn now not to adopt kids from Russia ou China
@@Nezuko2310 I think I saw something that said Americans aren’t allowed to adopt Russian children anymore, but I’m not positive. There were too many cases such as this.
@@shellshipman3853 how horrifying.
These stories are more common than we think. It’s great Americans want to adopt foreign kids, but it’s a cultural shock for these kids. They react out because they don’t know how to vocalize their emotions and fears.
Exactly. I used to work at a trauma facility for kids with horrific traumas and 99% of them were adopted from foreign countries. Majority of them have reactive attachment disorder which adoptive parents aren’t too familiar with. A lot comes with adoption from foreign countries. Just have to be educated.
There's a Facebook page for rehoming adopted children. It's private so no way to see if it's still active though.
As an adopted kid... sometimes things that happen before we were adopted dont start taking effect till later on ... my parents couldn't handle me and almost sent me back
Right it’s hard. A lot of variables. Tough for parents and child, especially the child who doesn’t even understand most of what’s going on. Glad it worked out for you
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@@allin3940 same here
When they feel safe they can then deal with the traumas of their past by acting out. A counselor helping both the parents and this child would have been good.
@@andicantu6490 well stated. Unfortunately after a lot of adoptions, especially across the seas, their are no post adoption services. You are on your own to find and afford them even after nearly going bankrupt to get the child.
This is terrible people have no idea how they can cause more harm to foster children. My heart breaks for her. I’m an ex foster child myself and raised by people who should have never had children in their care. I believe the foster mother was lying. That’s just my opinion from my own broken experience. We come to these people with problems no one said the journey would be easy. But the fact that she is a mother and is whole and healing today speaks volumes in my opinion. For them to give her back like you would a dog is just unthinkable.
What should be done when one child is a danger to another.
So, they should wait till she kills her baby brother? You are full of hate. Few comments above teacher said that in her classroom was placed child from an orphan in Russia. He had similar behavior and was dangerous to other children.
Agree
@@teejaybee9 What would you do if both kids were your own (biological children)? Would you give the “dangerous” one away or try to get her help?
@@Oph977 I would absolutely try to get them help first. I would separate them while the one was getting help. My nights would be too restless with both in the same home.
This poor girl was abandoned twice by her biological parents and her adoptive parents, Thank God she managed to overcome and be stronger.
The adoptive parents had already decided they loved their adopted son more than their adopted daughter. They needed an out. Just like a man who needs to convieniently commit his wife to an asylum. Sabrina just wanted to be loved. It turns out her going back to Russia was a blessing. She is thriving and has a beautiful family. Troy's compassion towards this child now woman was so touching. You're one of the good ones Troy ❤
Probably because he was sweet , cute , calm and very small and she was cold hearted .🤔
@@WilliamRamirez-nk9xo She needed therapy and treatment.
@@EclecticallyEccentric true she needed to be convinced that she was loved. She didn’t believe or trust anybody and hated anything that was happy , like her little helpless brother , more than likely
Adding those parents need a good kick upside the head with steel toe boots
@@WilliamRamirez-nk9xo cold hearted? No. Traumatized? Very likely yes.
I heard from someone that when all you know is chaos, a peaceful place can be uncomfortable and mentally and emotionally stressful. She grew up sleeping on the streets and said that living in a house was unbearable for her she felt better on streets at that point and I thought that was so sad.
That makes so much sense. We are creatures of habit ..
I spent my whole life being yelled at and hated on -- so when a guy finally came into my life to show me genuine peace and affection , I ended up rejecting him … He did move on and may but he got sick and died . I ended up with chronic PTSD that never healed till today .
I feel like they could have started with ummm.NOT CHANGING HER NAME AT 9YRS OLD! jeeze😰
I completely agree. My adopted 10 year old child kept their name and got to choose their new "middle name" since they didn't have a middle name. We always joke about it -- not many kids get to name themself!!
I feel like that was the least of her problems
@@Maria-he1db exactly
Exactly at nine they should of asked her and not decide for her
It takes a LOT of love and compassion to help a broken child. Don't adopt unless you are 100% committed to having that child be YOUR child, every day, until you die. Just because a child has behavior problems, that doesn't mean they don't need love and understanding. Anything a child does is a direct result of their upbringing (so far.) It is most definitely NOT the child's fault...their brains simply don't work like adult brains yet...they are a result of their programming.
Exactly!
I agree. That is why adoption agencies need to be honest about the child. Too often they just want to get rid of them too.
Don’t have your own children period. You don’t know what you may get!
Maybe I don’t understand, but I am confused why they didn’t put her in an inpatient treatment in the United States if they loved her so much? Instead they dump her in a- What appears to be a third rate hospital in Russia.
I’m very glad she had a happy ending despite the two adoptive parents.
The parents stated they had her placed in a psychiatric ward in the United States for four months, but she was discharged after their insurance ran out. They claimed placing her in the Russian hospital was their only option. Of course, they didn't tell her they weren't coming back for her either. She deserved a happy ending, especially since her adoptive parents added more trauma to her young life.
kara2288 You can get CHIP for kids health insurance
Unfortunately, this is more the case than not....I learned through adopting an older child that more than half of older children adopted are put back into the system again. It's sad, but it's a statistic that's not talked about often. When you need help post-adoption, it is difficult to find the right help. Since this girl spoke Russian, it may have been better in her case to get help in her native country and tongue than in the United States. And it appears to have worked out in the end for her.
That mother is a fool and probablya liar. She trained both the kids to believe she was dangerous. Utterly ridiculous.
@@dougwert4332 How do you know?
These people aren't parents. How do you adopt, than take her back to Russia and leave her there?! This is absolutely appalling.
Hello how are you doing hope you're safe over there ?
They didn't seem that broken up taking the little girl back.
She tried to throw their baby off a high balcony to it's death. 'Nough said.
@@SuperStar-jr3nu That’s hilarious 😂 dead baby 👶💀
@@SuperStar-jr3nu Except she didn't. That mother was crazy and obviously coaching the kids.
@@dougwert4332 When in doubt always blame the mother it seems
@@penelopephelange oh my gawd you're so rude your comment disturbs me. How can u said that what if that happens to your baby
God had a different direction for her. I'm so happy to hear she's doing great and has a happy life.
Amen
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Man I can feel the negative people about to swarm over like vultures and ruin a comment that has no negativity.
It's funny how they left that part out, Martha.
@@basedblackgirl9920 I'm going to have to bring negativity cuz I just hope those parents get a good kick upside the head for what they did
Only thing I can say here is adopting is a huge step and u have to accept the child in its ENTIRETY, as if they were biologically urs. As a biological parent I can’t just turn around and say “Thank u God for blessing me w this child, but she has a disability so….here u go”. That’s wrong.
This segment was focused on the understanding reporter instead of the parents who didn't get the perfect daughter They ordered up. A lot of Russian children suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome and being left unattended for years once they are born which causes them to stare into space like they are in a trance. Glad there was a happy ending to this story that little girl was a survivor but was not impressed w those parents!!
It’s amazing to hear that Troy ended up adopting after he reported that story. ❤️🥰
I am glad sue is doing better now. She is a mom of 4 kids. Great ending to the awful story.
Children from abusive past may have mental issues so dark that sometimes they can’t be help.
I raised one. spent years looking for the right counselor. he is an adult now and doing so well. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't lived it. Most aren't willing to keep looking for the right help or don't know what they really need.
Exactly
Like me.
Look how they lavish the love on the boy and disregard the girl.
Wow so amazing he got to interview her 20 years later!
I was adopted from Russia and it's scary and sad to hear this.
I remember back when TLC aired a series about adoption. One episode involved a flight of people going over to South Korea to adopt and the way they talked about the kids was like they were comparing dog breeds.
Hello how are you doing hope you're safe?👋👋
Let's give big credits to Nina Kostina(the adoption agency personal) for getting Sabrina out of the psychiatric ward in Russia that Crystal and Jesse put her in. Nina exemplified true love. I could feel Nina's heart in Sabrina's life. May we all have a Nina in our lives.
I don't know, but from what I've heard about adoption, adoptive parents have this misconception that the child that they are adopting is going to be so grateful for being adopted that they wouldn't dream of misbehaving or acting out their trauma. then when it does happen, they are caught Offguard.
She clearly has reactive attachment disorder. For those who don't know RAD is one of the worst things you can have. It stems from severe emotional and physical neglect and childhood. You are literally unable to form attachments to people. And people who show you love, such as parental figures, you react against aggressively and sometimes violently and purposefully lash out against to keep them from getting too close. It's much more complex and serious than that, but it is a very real, very sad and very dangerous disorder. Those are the kids that hurt others.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
I suffer from RAD since I was neglected emotionally and abused physically as a child. I will Never allow anyone to get close to me. I have a boyfriend who loves me and gives me the whole world on a plate but I'm not interested and refuse any intimacy. I can have intimate act with him but only without emotion. Cold act of satisfaction. I feel genuine disgust for adult humans. With children and animals I feel completely different. They are wonderful miracles and I can be around them forever. I feel safe with them and loved. I will never be fixed cause I have no desire to be fixed. I'm a classical musician and that is how I live my life.
They seemed cold towards her and I don't even believe their story. Maybe she was very affectionate but they were responding with coldness.
@@pluutoop how do you even have a boyfriend if you aren't interested in him? I understand your trauma, I've experienced it at some point but keep in mind that not all adults are the same and its your choice to either let that trauma take control of your life or not.
@@Hanako-San100 first of all you should take some therapy for being a very judgemental person. Than you should try to step in other people shoes for 15 minutes and try to feel how they do. It's going to help you become more sensitive to those who suffer. Also when someone comes to you and spills their honesty you should feel thankful and be appreciative.
These children are damaged and need supportive, experienced adoptive parents who can support them appropriately.
That is sad. Unfortunately, if children are not cared for, especially in infancy and their younger years, they may grow up without the ability to empathize or care for others. The Romanian orphans in the 20th century were very sad examples. They were never nurtured or cuddled as babies. Several became known serial murderers. It sounds like this young girl was able to get the help she needed in Russia, or maybe even grew out of the antisocial behavior.
She grew up normal and now has 4 kids. She was adopted by another lady.
@@elizabethwilk9615 wonderful 💕
@@rkim2214 Yikes... I was implying no such thing, but maybe I said something wrong without realizing it. I am sorry to have offended you or anyone else.
My intention was to highlight the tragedy of neglected and abused infants whose psychosocial development is stunted in pivotal, long-lasting ways. Unfortunately this happens everywhere, including the U.S. and to orphans and non-orphans alike. But in this case the famous Romanian babies came to mind, given the likeness in several respects. I am glad she grew up to be a happy and healthy person.
@x Thank you for your thoughtful and wise words. I appreciate it very much.
@@natashasays *You're full of CRAP!*
*Yes, I saw and read of all the sh!t that went-on in Romania after the execution of Ceausescu...but that involved complete sensory deprivation as infants and toddlers, most of whom could not even speak or even walk due to being confined to a filthy cot*
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*You're assigning those same factors to a 9-yr. old who did NOT experience being treated to such conditions*
*She could walk/talk/run/jump/and play the same as others of her age*
*She could also read and write and knew mathematics appropriate to her age*
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*Her 'New Parents' were and are THE MONSTERS who think nothing of 'giving her back' like a phucking PET because of 'made-up stories' without a phucking shred of proof!*
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*'Stealing jewelry' speaks volumes to me...the girl KNOWS they don't love her or care for her so she takes what she thinks is valuable to use later when she's 'on her own again' which is EXACTLY what I would do in the same circumstance at the same age*
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*Your 'feelings' do NOT define a reality you had NOTHING to do with!*
*How do you know the adopters weren't LYING or exaggerating her supposed homicidal intents?* *YOU DON'T*
*The only two people who know the truth is the now-grown woman and the boy himself and there's not ONE WORD FROM HIM anywhere!*
( *Brothers & sisters FIGHT ALL THE TIME and it means nothing other than 'Jealousy'* )
For anyone to think that a child who grew up in an orphanage (and survived 9 years of god knows what traumas) is not going to have emotional issues of all types is just ridiculous!!!!! People like this are not true parents- they don’t want a child to make that child’s life better and/or help and love them through thick and thin (as families should)- they want an accessory to their life; like a car or puppy. This is really heartbreaking.
So where’s the interview. I need more information because this is not it
It is a tease to get you to watch the 48 hours episode to see the full story.
To the young Russian girl that was returned after being adopted those parents didn’t deserve you so glad you made a life for yourself you’re beautiful and to the parents who returned her to Russia shame on you you gave up on her you are despicable
So you will keep a demon girl in your house and risk her actually cold-blooded killing your son?
@@user-lv4ov5rp6d Demon girl? That’s laughable !! She turned out just fine has four beautiful children and is married I’d hardly call that a demon child I would call that more a child was hurting deep inside and felt like she had nobody that cared so she did things as a cry for help to get attention to get somebody to see her pain. You must have a cold heart to say that about her and to call her a demon child .
@@kellylestig4941 I was kinda thinking that too
@@user-lv4ov5rp6d foolish comment. Demon girl??? Idiot.
The parents were ignorant and truly fearing for the life of their other child. As others have mentioned back in the early 90s it was not common knowledge that children who are adopted can lash out in these ways. What would any of us do in that situation lacking knowledge and resources,... would you live with a "ticking time bomb" and risk the death of one child?
I hope those lame adoptive parents see her now with her own children & realize with a little therapy & attention given to just her (maybe they should’ve adopted ONE child at a time- the 1st being her) , with time and effort, & help her adjust to her surroundings, putting the actual work in aside from the novelty of adopting internationally, this child would’ve made it. This snobby couple wanted an instafamily with no work it seems.
Well. Up in your face- she’s living her best life, seems intelligent & she made it thru her ordeal growing up in an orphanage, became a wife & mom. Good for her! I wish her the absolute best 🤍
I don't think sending her back because she endangered her brother is lame. If she's taking the knives and dangling her brother over a deck bannister they have to protect him and themselves. I'm wondering if they tried therapy. Also they didn't adopt them one at a time because they are siblings and they try to keep them together. I pray for all children in care.
@@teejaybee9the story they said it's not really the same as the other woman's who adopted her. These people might lie
there needs to be more restrictions on who can adopt kids in general but, especially little people from awful situations. These people were simply ignorant and should not have been allowed to older kids and or kids rom certain countries ...its not a baby ...it's a little person who has experience with whatever and you need to be prepared for it
She was a monster who hung the dog by a rope . She’s evil
@@Charmander009
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@@Charmander009 a lot of orphans are traumatized because of what they’ve been through, and it’s more traumatizing for people to be adopted into a new family especially into a different country with new cultures.
I'm so glad to see that Troy is back and that he's here to tell her story.
I'm adopted from Russia at age 3. A lot of parents expect a perfect child. The reality is a lot of kids come with lot of issue they didn't see coming. Lot of the issue can't be sovled quickly or its a life long issues. I was a LOT of WORK. I'm still suffering what my birth parents did to me. It's never going to go away.
Troy is amazing,his story is beautiful.
I hope to adopt one day soon.
Hello how are you doing hope you're safe over there???
People think that children are like dogs they're just so grateful that they're loving children are not dogs they have their own thoughts feelings and expectations especially the adopted ones. I used to hear all the time well I don't get why they're behaving like this we give them all the love in the world. Love doesn't do it you need dedication and half these people aren't dedicated to even themselves
The lack of love many children in bad situations are deprived in the first few years makes them prime candidates for Reactive Attachment and other diagnoses. The lack of education adopters get when taking in children with these special needs is also quite damaging to the child, and future success as a family unit. Anyone adopting needs more than an open heart and picture perfect expectations. Been there. The agencies/states seldom offer realistic expectations and need a massive overhaul. Most of these kids can overcome extreme neglect and abuse, but respite and education is desperately needed to guide all involved. I’m proud of that young woman for her courage and success. 💜💜💜
I didn’t know you could return a child you adopted.
I’ve seen people do this
You can if the child is a monster
If the child has psychiatric issues that were not disclosed at the time of the adoption you can return them.
@@Charmander009 This girl was traumatized. Violent because of it, yes. But not a monster.
Troy seems like and awesome dude. Give this man a show.
Oh wow! Scary stuff as a kid.
Awesome that they were able to follow her over the years.
and also clear up her name
These people still living in the 80s love it
I think that was footage from the 80's. : )
@@sharonsolana o ok
@@sharonsolana the footage is from 1999-2000 not the 80s. And yea they do look like the 80s in 1999 lol
Because it was the 80s. Omgoddddd.
Attachment Disorder is vicious. It sucks all the love and hope from a family, no matter how hard they try to conquer the evil. The adoption of a 9 year old was something almost guaranteed to fail. Badly. My sympathy to the parents and to the child. No one wins completely, but no one totally lost either. That child had the gift of experience, if only for awhile, of what it is to be a member of a family. She learned life lessons there impossible to learn in an orphanage.
I am not clear why you said it was doomed to fail. We adopted 7 and 10 year old brothers from Russia with horrible histories of abuse. We are not perfect; they are not perfect but we had a good life.
Kids aren’t pets. You can go around just adopting and changing their namds
It bothers me so much when people adopt kids who are over a year old and change their names. Children aren't hamsters. They KNOW their names once they're a year old. Its cruel to force them to change something as integral as their name when they're already dealing with moving to a new family/country/culture/language/etc....
There is an entire community of people who regularly "rehome" adopted kids. They used to have Facebook pages but have gone underground. They are still out there, taking children & then changing their minds.
Wow... Thank you for this glimpse into how reporters are impacted by the stories they cover. And what an impact! He literally adopted a child!
Hello how are you doing hope you're safe over there ??
Well good luck to him with this little russian monster he will certainly need it 😂
Why do people adopt children from orphanages and act surprised when that child is dealing with mental health issues? I feel like if you aren't willing to help a child get through it then don't adopt or do more research because you traumatize the child all over again.
It seems like this poor girl had severe trauma that needed professional help. But the people around her thought sending her off with a nice couple would fix everything. The psychologist said she was a homicide risk but did he suggest a treatment program? Or did he just scare the parents? Whatever happened she turned out to be a well adjusted adult.
This is not an unusual story. Far too many Russian adopted kids were victims of neglect as babies and did not develop emotionally healthy at all.
Only 1 minute in: Wait, they renamed a 9 year old? How would you have felt at that age, adapting to a new family, country, language and having even your name taken away?
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who feels that way. It is awful to be renamed when you are already that old. It's like these parents wanted to erase her personality.
This sounds like RAD. We learned about this in Adoption classes. I'm surprised they didn't have training and resources especially adopting from Russia.
This must be the story that inspired the movie Orphan
I thought the same
I was going to make that comment.
I think it is
I think that was inspired by a … dwarf (?) who passed herself off as FAR younger than her age. Google could tell you. If not a dwarf a midget, I think. (Not positive of the politically correct terms, atm.)
That has absolutely nothing to do with this. Has no relation what so ever. That was a different adoption case.
I know someone adopted from Russia as a toddler, she was kinda a bully in her elementary school years-she would draw bruises on her legs with brown/purple marker, rub it in to look bruised and blame someone for kicking her. She's okay now but I wonder if her early upbringing may have had consequences for this sort of behavior.
Didn't carolee already have any for 9 years that should be against the law should not be able to change a child's name when they're 9 years old at birth sure you can name them if you're adopting children two three four and older you should never change their first name that's their identity it should be a crime
Changing their name at 3 or 4 could also be damaging. That's strange they did that.
I agree they are not pets! Cant imagine how damaging that is to be thrown into a new family, new home & have them calling you by a different name. So selfish of the parents only thinking of themselves when they change a kids name
@@berlygirl123 true
I meant to say if a child is 3 4 days old not years old not even one years old should not change their name is their identity I'm sure that really confuses them especially if they've been to the foster care system and already know their parents and other family members and their name
I know a couple here who adopted Russian twins and the same thing.. They were so scared of them!
What’s up with these Russian orphans being violent?
@@A2Kaid neglect
@@A2Kaid imagine being a child who quick drag from one country to another, surrounding with people speaking language you don't understand. It's something like nightmare about alien abduction. And it's something wrong with these children too. Because if it's not they're was adopted in Russia obviously
I'm more scared of this couple. They adopted children from other country like they take a kitten from the street. Didn't they understand it is a really serious thing.
For those thinking the parents were wrong, what do think would have happened if the sister succeeded in throwing her brother off the deck? I think they did the right thing upon realizing that they could not care for her. She needed help that they could not give her. It is good to see that she is doing better now.
But they should be sure before adopt her they break her heart even more
If you hear her version of the story, it's a whole another take that gives off the impression that the parents almost engraved their side of the reality into her brain, making her 'admit' to having done so, when she never actually tried to harm her brother. Also her adoptive parents that came after this couple, said that they had no problem with her. I think that the couple is shady tbh.
•Cutie Betch• I think it's shady to adopt a 9 year old and rename her.
If she was gonna throw him over the deck she would have. It’s about her relationship with the foster mom, who according to her own telling reacted by yelling and giving her negative attention
They were a wealthy couple? How could they not give her the help she needed? She could have been treated in the US.
I don't get this American obsession of adopting children from other countries. Your own are so many, why don't you just adopt them? Or foster as many as you want?🤷🏽♀️
There's a lot of red tape. It takes a lot longer.
They want the feeling of being 'Saviours'. They 'saved' the child from 'horrific' circumstances. Sometimes, the kids are just fine where they are! Save your own many kids in foster homes!!!!
Exactly
@@Fredas_Lifestyle , no. It’s bc it’s much easier and cheaper.
@Amanda You mean 'rescue' the child from poverty? I'm guessing there's no poor community in the US.
There are thousands of kids who need homes right here in America,I never understood why people seem so eager to adopt foreign children ,is it a trophy thing? Im of African descent so I appreciate people helping kids in other countries but it’s different cultures,language barriers,culture shock and all kinds of things not saying it’s wrong if you’re doing it for the right reasons but unfortunately I feel like most of the time it’s just to brag. God bless all of those who sincerely help
She was probably severely abused before this family took her in :(
Awww sad. Adoptive kids have a lot of abuse and meant so health issues. Don’t take the kid back cuz it’s not perfect. Very sad
They were afraid for their sons life, they have to protect him too.
@@Maria-he1db not just the son , the evil witch tried to hang the dog to death
@@Charmander009 I mean, I wouldn't call her names she's probably been through a lot of trauma. Though at least she seems to have gotten her life on the right track, I just can't really blame the parents either. Unless they were pre warned about her behavior and they said it was fine and went through with it and then still took her back.
Those parents shouldn't have been allowed to adopt both children. When you adopt a child, you should accept that child no matter what.
Well she had a difficult childhood what did these parents expect, a child with no trauma?
It happens
Exactly
Yes, like buying a doll from a shop. Idiots!
@@vanessas2363 She was so close to killing their son, they have to protect him too and not to mention the adoption agency should have made her problems known so they could decide if they can handle it or not.
@@katie5920 someone with senses.
This segment became more about a therapy session about the reporter than the girls story.
*The female 'Moderator' spends minutes to ask a simple question to 'get more face-time' and 'drag it out' as long as possible before actually asking a phucking thing!*
*'Fake Journalism' at it's worst*
They were telling when the show would be on. This little bit snippet was only to give you some background.
I saw this movie - “Orphan”.
That had nothing to do with this. That had to do with the people who adopted a girl and thought she was an adult. They put her in a apartment by herself. They still argue about her actual birthdate. This is a completely non related story.
@@sweetcheeks89 I'm assuming you're smart enough to tell that this is a joke bro relax🙄
No one should adopt without the proper education on how to parent children with trauma . This is horrible . She didn’t deserve this ❤️
Thank you for sharing the story
I’m an adoptee from Eastern Europe and the way this was covered makes my blood boil 😳 Portraying a child who has been through so much trauma and loss in such a way. Shame. This hurts my heart.
I agree. Americans often change their name. Can you imagine? Your own name is taken from you?
I so glad that the russian agency didnt believe the american parents and placed her in another home
Shes so beautiful!! So happy for her!
This little girl needed help, unconditional love, and therapy. Why aren’t we doing intensive training ahead of time before these “do-gooders” find out they aren’t capable of healing these children?
Well I was expecting a story from the girl about what happened & why she felt she wasn't good enough.....she wasn't the perfect child so they sent her back....what did they expect, they knew where they were adopting her from....this kids are thrown away & it looks like this young girl was thrown away more than once....I pray that she has a good life now....God Bless Her❣️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💗💗
*"God Bless her" is your pathetic nonsense summation?*
She tried to throw a baby to it's death. She needed to go back.
Right? High percentage of the kids coming from Russia had issues.
@@SuperStar-jr3nu I suppose they could have kept her and raised her to be a female Kyle Rittenhouse or that murderous Crumbley kid. I wonder what excuse those parents have for their all-American killer kids and the rest of their ilk.
@@SuperStar-jr3nu Two wrongs don't make a right 😊
Sounds like that scary movie... “The Orphan” - it takes a strong person to deal with her. I ain’t the one.
I feel so deeply for her ❤️ I hope she knows people care about her journey
Thank God she's better & healing.
🙏🏼
My goodness adopting a child is not like adopting a pet. The adopted parents should have adopted one child at a time, since they lack experience having children. First adopting the boy would have given them some understanding of adopting a child. It seems the parents thought adopting a child was like fantasy and they thought the child would be perfect.
What they don’t understand is those children will feel rejected and unloved because of them.
@@vvluna Very true.
Why not adopt children from your own country, maybe because they wouldn't pass for adoption, I question adults who travel abroad for adoption , usually it serves the parents wants and needs
You are clueless. Maybe a baby, to serve a parents wants and needs, but not a 9 year old. Adopting a child in the US $500. Adopting a kid internationally $30,000 plus......
I have plans to foster to adopt I don’t want natural born children because there’s so many kids who need good homes.
@@loridear4480 yeah. Like angelina jolie. Its like getting that fancy italian pure breed shipped from overseas. So exotic. An obvious statement about the money you can spend.
@@sweetcheeks89 I spent $30,000 plus to adopt a 10 year old child who is now 18. And I take offense every time someone says I should have adopted in the US. I had my own biological children first. I absolutely didn't do it to serve my wants or needs. The majority of parents who adopt an older child are NOT doing it to serve their wants or needs. Most of these children have horrendous pasts. It is expensive, time consuming and filled with loads of therapies for both the child and the parents. And my child looks just like me, so I'm not trying to get a "statement" fancy pure breed out of it either.
@loridear I’m not super familiar w the process, but I have friends that adopted babies from other states in the US and it was a lot of money. Definitely many thousands of dollars.
Wow. This story inspired me. Thanks.
Well, first they took away her name to give her one they preferred. She was 9! Your sense of who you are is tied up with what you are called from birth. Refusing to use it is a constant rejection.
The movie "Orphan" first came to mind! 😊 Scary!
That has absolutely nothing to do with this. Has no relation what so ever. That was a different adoption case.
I’m so happy for her God Bless her 🇺🇸❤️🇷🇺
I'm so glad she showed the world her truth and not as they painted her out to be. What a horrible thing to do to a child.
She works at a hospital…! I would research into how many people have died since she’s at that hospital!
The story never gets finished. The journalist is very sweet but his own son adoption is topic for anotther story. We never got to hear more about this brave young woman who was badly treated by adoptive, deceitful, heartless parents.
Let's not take out our pitchforks and point them at either party. I am so relieved she was stopped before committing a heinous act. Otherwise she'd be in juvie or in jail for years. She's living her best life now and I think it's all that matters.
She just needed more time to be there. She must have been through a lot.. but good she is good now.
Hello how are you doing hope you're safe over there ??
Who returns a child? She's not a dog. You're a parent, get her help. You gave up on her. Disgusting.
Agreed
Have you adopted before? No? Dont be so quick to judge.
@@bobwilliams4895 have you ever hear of free speech? No? You’re clearly not an American so shut up
@@disastermaster1413 I am an American and I never said anything against anyones free speech. I just disagree with what they said and that triggered you. I also never told anyone to shut up like you did so I have been more in line with supporting free speech.
@@bobwilliams4895 I'm with you on this one. We had two foster children we wanted to adopt, but we finally had to resort to door alarms and in fear for our home and safety. Nearly killed our pets and nothing was safe. That was three years ago and we're still recovering from the emotional and physical trauma. Some of these "kids" are NO joke, and can be very scary. Both kids are now in psychiatric facilities, by court order and their futures are very uncertain. Early childhood abuse and neglect can do devastating things to children.