I am happy that you put in that last part, because I was just gonna mention that not everyone is in such a luxury position. As long as people are transparent about it, I have no issues with it. But yeah, I can totally imagine that after a while it becomes a bit laughable.😅
They want a picture of your pool before they send anything, then they want to review the video before it goes live, but they want the whole thing up "around February 5th" Even worse, this company is probably blasting the same shit to people up here where it's fucking winter. You know, when nobody is going to be able to actually use this thing for the next few months
I reckon they're trying to get mind space before spring starts to warm up the north side. That way people buy these things as soon as the pools thaw out, and probably have them break before you're even ready to swim.
It's entirely possible they're wanting to get advertising out before people have water in their pools, but given how this is a third party company that's been hired to advertise this, I'm thinking they've spent about as much time learning about the product they've been hired to advertise as they have solving the mystery of the eevblog guy's name
Lol, "a hopeless businessman". Yep, but honest. You cannot trust ANY paid promotion on RUclips unless the RUclipsr has previously paid for, and used, and continues to use, the product. Your oscilloscope's company should pay you to showcase their new or other products because you have credibility from past non-paid reviews, but they probably won't because they know they'll get the product recommendation for free. Sad, but true.
For every one that sends a request. Put them on the list of one of your breakdown videos showing how they work. How cheaply they are made. That will teach them.
The thing with ads is your can't just do one, or some here and there or try it and then stop. Once your independence is in doubt, you never get it back.
I have a RUclips channel with just over 4k subs about 3D printing (not this one). Even I get many of these emails a day, usually from the same domain, trying to send me free cat toys, laptop/phone accesories and the occassional 3D printing related thing. It's bad enough that I end up missing emails from legit companies I want to work with. I'm just a tiny part-time RUclipsr so I can't even imagine how bad it is for big channels.
Come on Dave, you don’t get it! Their robot is so unbelievably revolutionary that it can only handle a perfectly rectangular pool that is completely obstacle free!
Sure, it's a template. As I know someone is sending out product just for test and did NOT ask for review and even mention, just let the video maker to try it and see if they like or hate and wait for comments to improve the thing.
I stopped watching TV, i would long have stopped watching YT too without this well working ghostery extension. Would be hard because of all that music history sitting here - best museum, mankind has invented. But imagine that with every song interrupted three times plus 2 ads in between titles. Would drive anybody insane. IDK, where this is going. Worked piece time for years - it just wears you out to the bone - same destiny for full time youtubers. That's not a healthy lifestyle.
I'm just a beginner in this - I received some free items by doing some video reviews. But I was clear: my video is made with my style, my words and all my swearing, occasional rant and funny sounds. They agreed, so I was totally free. I liked the products and I'm still using them. Never saw a penny btw, - I hope to see some in future because I'm really in need LOL. My channel is little but growing. Please note that I do YT videos because I have a lot of fun :)
Hi Dave, you say that you turn down or remove all sponsorship deals, even before reading them, so how is it that you are so aware of what the typical format is? Have you been in a position once where you had to consider offers, have you sometimes read them for fun, or simply by accident and you have built up an idea of their content, etc?
90% of them are just spam from the likes of amazon resllers who want you to plug their store by reviewing a novelty gadget. Some other are obviously more serious and it's obvious from the email title, and those I open as it's often not clear if they want a sponsorship or want to pay for website/forum advertising which I do offer. If it's personalised with a Hey Dave then I always respond. Often I have entered into correspondance with companies out of interest, just to learn this stuff. Sometimes they will give you price up front in the first email. Rinse and repeat for 14 years, and I have a good idea of what it's about. Same thing with the MCN's, I enter into correspondance with them just to find out what the deal is, and I never had any intention of taking it.
@@EEVblog2 did you see Louis Rossmann test Amazon fuses? One could argue it's just bad picks but my point is that it kinda just reinforces his point tl;dr they market by using bad faith ways and outcompete good sellers and products, Amazon isn't interested in protecting the latter
I live in Florida, USA where most (or at least many) homes have pools. I don't think I've ever seen an in-ground pool that didn't have a curve between the wall and floor. Who has any idea what the angle of that curvature is? That requirement is just in there as a copout in case of a bad review.
There are companies that happily pay 10k for a 2 minute chunk in a video. Technicly it's better and cheaper then paying google adsense as you can target a specific audience.
Thanks for sharing. Definitely too much micromanagement and asking for butt-licking here... If they want so much control over a 'tuber who does it, why not do it themselves? Total BS.
Well, it took them only 4 days after your pool robot video, but you might as well reason that they were at least 4 days late. You have been posting videos about the pool construction for quite some time, so all the time they could have realized that at some point you would want to buy a pool robot and they could make you post a video that does not have "sponsored" so thickly written on it...
Yes, they love the video, huge fans, because the AI runs through the YT recent uploads, and looks for keywords, and then refers to the appropriate advertiser wanting keyword search. Then the wanting comparasion means they want you to slag the competition, and say the sponsor is the best, because of any reason, and then they want the review to be honest (lie about our junk being best), review because they want to be sure the ad result was positive, and then want it up for a year to run it on their website as an embedded ad in the reviews, though the review itself is guaranteed to be a sock puppet written by them.
Dave, just do the video and pocket the cash, but make it a parody for us. Your viewers will know it's fake and it would be quite entertaining. Win win for everyone 😂
I don't have any beef with people doing sponsored content on YT as long as they are transparent about it. I feel positively sorry for the poor saps who have to take jobs in the marketing factory farms who are the plankton of the online marketing ecosystem.
Actually sposnsorships should pay a lot more than 4 digits. 5 figures is the usual goal - given the effort I would probably only take this one for $25,000 or more. The LTT group (Linus Tech Tips) would be one where they do content to fit the sponsors - sponsor whores basically - which shows you what happens when you go the other way. But hey, it lets you build, furnish and outfit a brand new house worth millions of dollars with no out of pocket spending. You just have to be happy making low quality content.
not a fan of products that feel its necessary to offer to pay for reviews/adds like this. there are entire categories of products like solar generators and e-bikes that are dominated by sponsored ads/reviews, with very few honest reviews, and that dont even include that the main 2 online retailers always pad there "reviews" with at least 50% compensated reviews you cant really trust anyone now
I think the best ones are the WD40 sponsored videos, the full product names are straight out of Idiocraty, and you have those pretend simple mechanics saying the complete stupid name of the juice they are spraying without laughing.
Why did you have to shit-talk the company though? At least they have a (useful) product. It may be crap, which does not work and constantly breaks down, but you will never know that (because you did not even try it out).
@@mx0r Oh, you're soooo brainwashed. What's amazing here, is that the brainwashing was done by just one person (Dave). This wouldn't have been possible, if not for the help from your side. Technically, you brainwashed yourself.
You won't need a pool vacuum when you're swimming in your pool of sponsorship money, Scrooge McDuck style.
With enough deals I could pay for the pool...
@@lylecoglianese1645 I actually have a friend in Sydney who owns a bottled water company.
@@lylecoglianese1645 nah, try self-filling bottle company (like Fontus) sponsorship.
I am happy that you put in that last part, because I was just gonna mention that not everyone is in such a luxury position. As long as people are transparent about it, I have no issues with it.
But yeah, I can totally imagine that after a while it becomes a bit laughable.😅
I would make the shittiest video of the product and send it to them. They will obviously deny it. Tell them I'm running it anyway. No charge.
New series: Pool cleaners busted! 😂
Even small youtube channels get several of these a week.
And most of them are even crappier products than the ones Dave was talking about.
Yes, ofetn just a farting novelty gadget. The worst are amazon resellers wanting you to plug their store.
Yes but your reviews are always good, and entertaining as well. Plus you get cool stuff as well.
They want a picture of your pool before they send anything, then they want to review the video before it goes live, but they want the whole thing up "around February 5th"
Even worse, this company is probably blasting the same shit to people up here where it's fucking winter. You know, when nobody is going to be able to actually use this thing for the next few months
I reckon they're trying to get mind space before spring starts to warm up the north side.
That way people buy these things as soon as the pools thaw out, and probably have them break before you're even ready to swim.
It's entirely possible they're wanting to get advertising out before people have water in their pools, but given how this is a third party company that's been hired to advertise this, I'm thinking they've spent about as much time learning about the product they've been hired to advertise as they have solving the mystery of the eevblog guy's name
Dave Jones: "Pool? I thought you said poo. My bad. Sorry for the 10 gigs of pictures I sent"
Very interesting, thanks for posting such videos Dave!
Well, I found that during lockdown Dave's workout inside the lab is fun to watch, also the bike torch testing video also fun.
My god I hate advertising... They survive only because people are idiots.
Lol, "a hopeless businessman". Yep, but honest. You cannot trust ANY paid promotion on RUclips unless the RUclipsr has previously paid for, and used, and continues to use, the product. Your oscilloscope's company should pay you to showcase their new or other products because you have credibility from past non-paid reviews, but they probably won't because they know they'll get the product recommendation for free. Sad, but true.
Interesting insight. Thanks.
I get sponsorship offers all the time. The latest one I've turned down was from Temu
For every one that sends a request. Put them on the list of one of your breakdown videos showing how they work. How cheaply they are made. That will teach them.
And this is why we value your opinion.
If they knew you they wouldn't want deliverable B.
Perfect for a 2 minute teardown, don't turn it on, take it apart😂
I never get sponsorships!
The thing with ads is your can't just do one, or some here and there or try it and then stop. Once your independence is in doubt, you never get it back.
When your Core Value is selling bullshit :D
No Mr. Jones, I expect you to shill! Mwahahahah!
I want to see you take on one of these as an experiment.
Unbelievable! I was expecting solar pool robots :-)
I have a RUclips channel with just over 4k subs about 3D printing (not this one). Even I get many of these emails a day, usually from the same domain, trying to send me free cat toys, laptop/phone accesories and the occassional 3D printing related thing. It's bad enough that I end up missing emails from legit companies I want to work with. I'm just a tiny part-time RUclipsr so I can't even imagine how bad it is for big channels.
Come on Dave, you don’t get it! Their robot is so unbelievably revolutionary that it can only handle a perfectly rectangular pool that is completely obstacle free!
yeah nah!.. too many hoops!
and thanks Dave, for stickin to ya guns, not giving in to the ad parasites!
Sure, it's a template. As I know someone is sending out product just for test and did NOT ask for review and even mention, just let the video maker to try it and see if they like or hate and wait for comments to improve the thing.
I stopped watching TV, i would long have stopped watching YT too without this well working ghostery extension.
Would be hard because of all that music history sitting here - best museum, mankind has invented.
But imagine that with every song interrupted three times plus 2 ads in between titles. Would drive anybody insane.
IDK, where this is going.
Worked piece time for years - it just wears you out to the bone - same destiny for full time youtubers. That's not a healthy lifestyle.
I'm just a beginner in this - I received some free items by doing some video reviews. But I was clear: my video is made with my style, my words and all my swearing, occasional rant and funny sounds. They agreed, so I was totally free. I liked the products and I'm still using them. Never saw a penny btw, - I hope to see some in future because I'm really in need LOL. My channel is little but growing. Please note that I do YT videos because I have a lot of fun :)
Agree for the spornsorship just to take the robot apart before turning it on.
No sheet music describing the required vocal intonation? Haha
Hi Dave, you say that you turn down or remove all sponsorship deals, even before reading them, so how is it that you are so aware of what the typical format is? Have you been in a position once where you had to consider offers, have you sometimes read them for fun, or simply by accident and you have built up an idea of their content, etc?
90% of them are just spam from the likes of amazon resllers who want you to plug their store by reviewing a novelty gadget. Some other are obviously more serious and it's obvious from the email title, and those I open as it's often not clear if they want a sponsorship or want to pay for website/forum advertising which I do offer. If it's personalised with a Hey Dave then I always respond. Often I have entered into correspondance with companies out of interest, just to learn this stuff. Sometimes they will give you price up front in the first email. Rinse and repeat for 14 years, and I have a good idea of what it's about. Same thing with the MCN's, I enter into correspondance with them just to find out what the deal is, and I never had any intention of taking it.
@@EEVblog2 did you see Louis Rossmann test Amazon fuses? One could argue it's just bad picks but my point is that it kinda just reinforces his point
tl;dr they market by using bad faith ways and outcompete good sellers and products, Amazon isn't interested in protecting the latter
@@EEVblog2 I see, very cunning, thank you.
Love it. Tell 'em who's boss, Dave! It's on _your_ terms, or get bent! 😎
Now, please do a reaction video of a video "reviewing" the robot according to the script 😂
"All marketing wankery!" 😆
I live in Florida, USA where most (or at least many) homes have pools. I don't think I've ever seen an in-ground pool that didn't have a curve between the wall and floor. Who has any idea what the angle of that curvature is? That requirement is just in there as a copout in case of a bad review.
No significant obstacles, no curvature blah blah blah...
Pool mapping: Square BOX
That was easy.
Come on Dave I think you need a dedicated channel to just doing sponsor videos to see how much you can make
Have you ever considered replying back to them with a “fuck off” price ($10k+) just on the off chance one of them says yes?
There are companies that happily pay 10k for a 2 minute chunk in a video.
Technicly it's better and cheaper then paying google adsense as you can target a specific audience.
Thanks for sharing. Definitely too much micromanagement and asking for butt-licking here... If they want so much control over a 'tuber who does it, why not do it themselves? Total BS.
Well, it took them only 4 days after your pool robot video, but you might as well reason that they were at least 4 days late.
You have been posting videos about the pool construction for quite some time, so all the time they could have realized that at some point you would want to buy a pool robot and they could make you post a video that does not have "sponsored" so thickly written on it...
They should have said "revolutionary" not "revolutionize"
I read the title as "Behind the RUclips Censorship Curtain"
Sue me.
Take their pool robot and in turn give them a shoddy review of a robot full of used pinball machine parts.
Yes, they love the video, huge fans, because the AI runs through the YT recent uploads, and looks for keywords, and then refers to the appropriate advertiser wanting keyword search. Then the wanting comparasion means they want you to slag the competition, and say the sponsor is the best, because of any reason, and then they want the review to be honest (lie about our junk being best), review because they want to be sure the ad result was positive, and then want it up for a year to run it on their website as an embedded ad in the reviews, though the review itself is guaranteed to be a sock puppet written by them.
Dave, just do the video and pocket the cash, but make it a parody for us. Your viewers will know it's fake and it would be quite entertaining. Win win for everyone 😂
I don't have any beef with people doing sponsored content on YT as long as they are transparent about it. I feel positively sorry for the poor saps who have to take jobs in the marketing factory farms who are the plankton of the online marketing ecosystem.
Actually sposnsorships should pay a lot more than 4 digits. 5 figures is the usual goal - given the effort I would probably only take this one for $25,000 or more. The LTT group (Linus Tech Tips) would be one where they do content to fit the sponsors - sponsor whores basically - which shows you what happens when you go the other way. But hey, it lets you build, furnish and outfit a brand new house worth millions of dollars with no out of pocket spending. You just have to be happy making low quality content.
not a fan of products that feel its necessary to offer to pay for reviews/adds like this.
there are entire categories of products like solar generators and e-bikes that are dominated by sponsored ads/reviews, with very few honest reviews, and that dont even include that the main 2 online retailers always pad there "reviews" with at least 50% compensated reviews
you cant really trust anyone now
Hi Friend,
...SPAM...
I think the best ones are the WD40 sponsored videos, the full product names are straight out of Idiocraty, and you have those pretend simple mechanics saying the complete stupid name of the juice they are spraying without laughing.
Yeah? Try and build a better one buddy. Do you know how long it took me to invent the Beat bots?
That's no reason to rest on a half cooked product now 😝
You see - there is a lot of work left to do 😂
Say HI to your mom for me.
I suspect "invent" might be poor word choice.
Why did you have to shit-talk the company though? At least they have a (useful) product. It may be crap, which does not work and constantly breaks down, but you will never know that (because you did not even try it out).
Did you check them out? You can only pre order the item. They have nothing besides promises so far.
Because they send spam.
@@mx0r Oh, you're soooo brainwashed. What's amazing here, is that the brainwashing was done by just one person (Dave). This wouldn't have been possible, if not for the help from your side. Technically, you brainwashed yourself.