I was once told, when fault finding change one variable at a time. However in your case when the brake lever is crushing your fingers, change the lot! Engine builds, bikes,cars. All good content. Keep up the good work.
Pressure sensor install looks like it could hold air in the dead headed end, few years ago was chasing a spongey pedal on a race car, had a similar hose for the brake pressure sensor, made an inline one and solved the spongey and inconsistent pedal feel
We bleed the sensors as that’s how we run them in BSB, but yes I removed it in case it was a possible cause. In all honesty it’s the master cylinder! Transformed the brakes!
Hey man all the Hayes calipers are on recall because of defects! Worldwide recall from what my dealer explained! I've got Nissin brakes on both my bikes a 22 K66 M1000rr and 2020 K67 S1000rr M and BMW quit using Hayes calipers on all bikes.
Buy a set of Brembo T drive rotors. What can happen to oem floating rotors in uneven expansion from heat ID vs OD of the friction area. Basically the rotor will "cone" like a bellville washer slightly and cause a long lever because you are squeezing the rotor straight before it makes full contact with the pads when pulling the lever. T-drive are a game changer and feel is amazing and consistent all the time..
Mine has Alpha Racing Brembo discs, even stock oem rotors on superbikes don’t do that anymore. They are full floating brembo discs as stock. We check them for runout after every round, measure and strip them etc.
It's a weird thing brake feel on a bike. I started getting a problem with the Beringer caliper / ISR master cylinder set up on my KTM Supermoto. They had been fine but suddenly I was getting a spongy lever on track days. I spoke to couple of the race guys on a forum and they said to replace the pads if they are more than 1/3 worn. It was thought that with Beringers, once 1/3 of the pad material had worn away there was not enough material to help keep heat away from the pistons and brake fluid as they acted like a heat sink when new. I bled the fluid through and changed the pads and everything was fine again.
That's crazy. Just went to a big track with sport bikes on a ktm sumo out braking the sh*t out of everybody for 2 days straight on nearly worn out berringer pads. No problems whatsoever, not even any fade.
Would never use Brembo RCS M/C having tested them at Donington. Lever came back to the bar after a few laps. Cast Brembo radial M/C are far superior and never had a problem since.
Ah man, I had terrible trouble with my L7 gixxer 1000’s brakes. Ended up changing everything in the end. The gen 4 bimmer and the gixxer are both victims of happy shopper brake systems 😫
Think BMW ended up doing exactly what you did with the calipers, there was some recall on those Hays units and they swapped them out for those Nissin ones
Yeah the recall is for leaks. Mine just fade but we have gone way beyond what manufacturer expect the use to be. I pull 10 bar front brake pressure on data! Top SBK lads are 13-15 and Toprak is over 20!
👌👏👏👏 I think the inside of the Hayes caliper casting is pretty rough. As in texture. Poor finish rough. Granular. Gives the micro bubbles a grippy surface to grab and some nooks and crannies to hide in. Bleed with a little vibration and you'll be surprised at the last amount of fine bubbles you can release that you'd swear weren't possibly in there. So loosen caliper bolts to let the monoblock rattle freely and I use a battery drill on about torque level 4 (or as high as you can hold), grip the chuck to stop it spinning and the hammer rattle action gives perfect vibration when drill touches the caliper and lines... releasing said cheeky stubborn microbuggers and truely bleeding the system. Handy technique when a system is being a bastard and you've ran out of ideas. Nissin and Brembo casting/machining is obviously slicker the more you spend. Multi section brake lines are culprits too, internal snag points at unions can hold some pesky bubbles too, braaaapapapppap them and agitate the fluid. Set them bubbles free from the bottom to the top! Mad tip but it bloody works. Dildo gags expected. Would need to be a hefty violent one to beat a Milwaukee for this application!
Dont be giving us this " im not quick stuff!! " 1:10, 1: 11 round Combe as you said in a previous video, aint slow as the bike lap record is 1:08.456 by Dan Cooper!! I know 'cos you nearly sucked me up your ex.pipe when you passed me the other week! LOL. Great vid tho and id like more bike stuff as you progress through the year!
Chinese cloned brake pads, there's some dodgy sets doing the rounds, they have a very well known brand name on the box, but the contents are cloned pads ....
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I was once told, when fault finding change one variable at a time. However in your case when the brake lever is crushing your fingers, change the lot! Engine builds, bikes,cars. All good content. Keep up the good work.
As he's explaining the issue he ran through his fault finding process and worked out what was at fault.
Keep up the bike content 😎 surprised it’s not a twin brake line setup instead of one with a t connector
That’s an awesome set up! Would love to see more about the bike on this channel 👍 please keep em coming mate.
Pressure sensor install looks like it could hold air in the dead headed end, few years ago was chasing a spongey pedal on a race car, had a similar hose for the brake pressure sensor, made an inline one and solved the spongey and inconsistent pedal feel
We bleed the sensors as that’s how we run them in BSB, but yes I removed it in case it was a possible cause.
In all honesty it’s the master cylinder!
Transformed the brakes!
Good stuff. Hate chasing brake feel. Christ that camera focussing though! 😂
bolts... bikes.... bits and your brains.... keep it coming Ricky.....
Thank you!
I like bikes and as you know I smashed the subscribe button a long time ago. The channel goes from strength to strength.
I smashed it the very first vijaeo I watched. ( vijaeo= go watch AvE in Canada he's a hoot!)
Have you ever tried Beringer systems?
Only just found your channel and its mega. Top work fella 👍👍👍👍
Thanks so much!
Loving all the content guys, brill vids 👍👍 good to know even at your level stuff isn't supplied with bolts 🙈🤣
Hey man all the Hayes calipers are on recall because of defects! Worldwide recall from what my dealer explained! I've got Nissin brakes on both my bikes a 22 K66 M1000rr and 2020 K67 S1000rr M and BMW quit using Hayes calipers on all bikes.
Buy a set of Brembo T drive rotors. What can happen to oem floating rotors in uneven expansion from heat ID vs OD of the friction area. Basically the rotor will "cone" like a bellville washer slightly and cause a long lever because you are squeezing the rotor straight before it makes full contact with the pads when pulling the lever. T-drive are a game changer and feel is amazing and consistent all the time..
Mine has Alpha Racing Brembo discs, even stock oem rotors on superbikes don’t do that anymore. They are full floating brembo discs as stock.
We check them for runout after every round, measure and strip them etc.
Awesome, thanks guys.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
What is it about the master that you think is causing the problem? The size of the piston?
It's a weird thing brake feel on a bike. I started getting a problem with the Beringer caliper / ISR master cylinder set up on my KTM Supermoto. They had been fine but suddenly I was getting a spongy lever on track days. I spoke to couple of the race guys on a forum and they said to replace the pads if they are more than 1/3 worn. It was thought that with Beringers, once 1/3 of the pad material had worn away there was not enough material to help keep heat away from the pistons and brake fluid as they acted like a heat sink when new. I bled the fluid through and changed the pads and everything was fine again.
Yeah we mileage the pads so know it’s not that. But yes that causes huge issues too!
That's crazy. Just went to a big track with sport bikes on a ktm sumo out braking the sh*t out of everybody for 2 days straight on nearly worn out berringer pads. No problems whatsoever, not even any fade.
cheers dude keep up the good work
Good watch guys👍
Could you not install some carbon duct brake coolers or will it break the rules ?
Would never use Brembo RCS M/C having tested them at Donington. Lever came back to the bar after a few laps. Cast Brembo radial M/C are far superior and never had a problem since.
Hello David, do you mean the billet ones mate? Like what the superbike teams use?
All Brembos normally are cast, but top lads run billet units.
Ah man, I had terrible trouble with my L7 gixxer 1000’s brakes. Ended up changing everything in the end.
The gen 4 bimmer and the gixxer are both victims of happy shopper brake systems 😫
Yeah the M1000RR came with better callipers!
Thought Yamaha was affiliated with Advics ie sumitomo via the Toyota connection, not brembo.
Anyway, enjoying your video - as always
Thank you
We likey bikes. Do something with the 44th crew
You should definitely do a collab with Chris and Al at 44Teeth! Maybe a 'Beautiful Bike Battle' instead of their budget adventures 😏
We’re the bolts too long or did the calipers need spacers?
@Hugh Jaanus really helpful… not. just as IOS auto correct that changed the correct word to the wrong one in the first place.
Think BMW ended up doing exactly what you did with the calipers, there was some recall on those Hays units and they swapped them out for those Nissin ones
Yeah the recall is for leaks.
Mine just fade but we have gone way beyond what manufacturer expect the use to be. I pull 10 bar front brake pressure on data! Top SBK lads are 13-15 and Toprak is over 20!
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Definitely more bike stuff
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More bike stuff please
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I think the inside of the Hayes caliper casting is pretty rough. As in texture. Poor finish rough. Granular. Gives the micro bubbles a grippy surface to grab and some nooks and crannies to hide in. Bleed with a little vibration and you'll be surprised at the last amount of fine bubbles you can release that you'd swear weren't possibly in there. So loosen caliper bolts to let the monoblock rattle freely and I use a battery drill on about torque level 4 (or as high as you can hold), grip the chuck to stop it spinning and the hammer rattle action gives perfect vibration when drill touches the caliper and lines... releasing said cheeky stubborn microbuggers and truely bleeding the system. Handy technique when a system is being a bastard and you've ran out of ideas. Nissin and Brembo casting/machining is obviously slicker the more you spend. Multi section brake lines are culprits too, internal snag points at unions can hold some pesky bubbles too, braaaapapapppap them and agitate the fluid. Set them bubbles free from the bottom to the top! Mad tip but it bloody works. Dildo gags expected. Would need to be a hefty violent one to beat a Milwaukee for this application!
All the bike stuff! 😂
More bikes! 👌✊✊✊
Biking channel works for me Ricky!
Thank you!
I was missing the rest of the install😀
More bikes!!
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brilliant
Thank you!
I’m only here for the bike content 😁👍
Enjoy Nicky!
‘Until you know you don’t know’
2 or 4 wheels same Quality 👍👍
Shout out 44 teeth 👌
Dont be giving us this " im not quick stuff!! " 1:10, 1: 11 round Combe as you said in a previous video, aint slow as the bike lap record is 1:08.456 by Dan Cooper!! I know 'cos you nearly sucked me up your ex.pipe when you passed me the other week! LOL. Great vid tho and id like more bike stuff as you progress through the year!
The older he gets the faster he was 🤣
+1 for more bike content
Ditch the z04"s and get sbs dual sinter (expensive but awesome) they last twice as long as the Brembos which off sets the cost
Z04’s are same price! But yeah have got some SBS to try.
Ya a Bikie channel, the expensive stuff was just incase you were afraid of bikes. Cheap and Nasty please. What's Guy Doohan?
Galespeed MC > Brembo RCS all day every day.
Doesnt matter how clever or clued up you are YOU DONT TOUCH THE PAD SURFACE!
😂😂😂😂 ok mate!
More bikes…….
Cars are boring. Bike, bike bike
Chinese cloned brake pads, there's some dodgy sets doing the rounds, they have a very well known brand name on the box, but the contents are cloned pads ....
We buy direct from Brembo!