I own this pen as well and it is an excellent pen. To be honest it is the smoothest nib I have ever used, it truly just glides across the paper. It is an amazing buy and a great starter pen as well.
The different shades of black are really cool, but it also seems unintentional. This is actually one of my most used pens, I absolutely love it. It's not the smoothest but somehow it's so sturdy and unassuming that I tend to prefer it on a day to day basis.
Hi James, lovely review! I've recently started using fountain pens after years being frustrated at ballpoints, rollerballs & felt tips - finally, I've found a style of pen that I like (important, considering that I'm a digital artist that likes to sketch things in pen)! So far I only have a Pilot Metropolitan and a couple of Platinum Preppy pens, but I'm looking to add a few more to my collection. This is a very handsome looking pen, and a very affordable price. Based on your review, I've ordered one of these, thank you!
Small correction, it doesn't take standard international cartridges. The opening in the converter is larger. It looks like the same size as the Wing Sung converters.
I decided that I wanted to try a fountain pen, I ordered one of these because I liked the look of it. Should be delivered sometime this weekend. Looking forward to trying it and seeing what it's like to use a fountain pen.
I just got two of them last week, a fine and an extra fine. I love them both, there is some variation in the colors. On one of them the cap is about the same dark brown color as the textured part (almost like a dark bronze statue color) and the other is like yours were the cap is a dark brown color and the textured part is darker, almost black. I like the stiff clip, it feels secure in my pocket.
I have MANY fountain pens and this one is among the smoothest I own. I have it loaded up with Noodler’s Walnut ink & it’s an excellent match. My Fine writes more like a Japanese Medium. Very good flow. Very solid. Very handsome. Arguably the best low cost pen available. Very highly recommended. I liked it so much I ordered the XFine too.
This will be my first fountain pen, I have used glass dip pens which I like but wanted something that I can take with me, arrives today. Thanks for the video, they do have more color choices now for this model.
It's definitely black brown, and IT IS GORGEOUS. I'm a sucker for fountain pens and this one's my favorite. I, likewise, am glad it turns out that it wasn't black; the brown is just so lovely! I pair it with Pelikan 4001 ink, Brilliant Brown ✒️♥️
I carved the paint off on my black forest and honesty I love it I left the grip and top of the cap as black but the rest is silver and the textured part is almost like a copper I think it ads alot more personality to the pen
i’ve been looking at this pen vs. the pilot metropolitan for a while now. this is my first fountain pen and i’m trying to do as much research as possible before buying. thank you for your video and i think i’ll be buying this pen today!
I have one with. fude nib that I use for drawing. It has Noodler’s Lexington Grey ink in it which is waterproof so that I can apply watercolours on top. It’s a perfect pen, never dries out, no hard starts and still looks brand new after a year of use.
I agree this was one of the first fountain pens I bought, actually the first, I just found it on amazon with good reviews. I am still a newbie only several months in. However this is still one of my top writers out of about 30 pens I now own. I am curious to try an EF nib now as I have the F nib. I am impressed with the price as it is very high quality. I see you already commented that standard cartridges don’t fit. I bought a bunch on the link on amazon that was in the description of this pen as listed on amazon. I bought the white version of this as well I liked it so much. Thanks for the review, there isn’t much out there on this one. Now a new subscriber to your channel.
I see there are now converters on amazon under hongdian now. www.amazon.com/Hongdian-Fountain-Converter-Diameter-3-4mm/dp/B084VHW7YM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=Q1FMQA4KZCLR&keywords=wing+sung+fountain+pen+converters+3.4mm+bore+diameter&qid=1583168367&s=office-products&sprefix=Wing+sung+fountain+pen+conver%2Coffice-products%2C175&sr=1-2
James, you’re a bad influence on me (just kidding). After seeing your review, I went to check out the pen on Amazon with no intentions of buying it. The low price got me though. I love it! It’s such a sturdy little pen and what a smooth writer. It may be one of my favorite pens. One of the little things this company has done that makes a big difference in the way this pen writes is that little spring in the converter which helps keep the ink flowing beautifully. No hard starts or scratchiness. Thanks for a great review.
Glad you like it! This is one of those pens that I really liked at the time of the review, and would recommend even more with greater use. Mine has just been great.
After seeing your review of this pen, I decided to buy it. It's affordable price tag and the fact that it comes with a converter made the decision that much easier to make. You were right. This pen is fantastic! I got the EF nib and I simply love the feel and the precision of the lines. Thank you for another excellent review!
I bought one and then a second identical pen. I always carry two fountain pens (or a fountain pen and a ballpoint pen) because I don’t want to run out of ink. I agree with everything you said in your review. This is an excellent pen for the money.
My Black Forest is a couple of years older than yours, and the smoother portions of the pen are as deep of a black as the textured part. Not sure when it changed or whether yours or mine is the exception. It is a nice writer though. I do wish it took standard international cartridges though. Just buy the converter when you buy the pen and it is no longer an issue. The news that it takes regular Wing Sung converters is useful to know. The pen is also available on Ali Express cheaper than Amazon usually.
I love my HDs, I have EFN & FN, and they're smooth writing pens. For me, they're much smoother than my Lamys. And much cheaper; weight is awesome, but i prefer if they're a bit more weighty. They're my goto pens now.
Interestingly, my pen actually is solid all black. I've got the fine nib as well, and use the same ink. :-) I agrees, it's a very smooth pen with just enough scratch to feel really good on decent paper. They also sell just the nibs and replacement converters. I'm seriously thinking of getting some so I can easily use different ink colors. Great review!
Both good, and both have held up well for me. I’d lean to the Safari, but it’s mostly down to personal preferences. Do you prefer metal or plastic? Do you prefer a slimmer grip (Forest) or an ergonomic grip (Safari)? Do you think you’ll want to swap nibs later (both can, but the Safari is easier)?
A nice video for an interesting looking pen - thank you 🙏🏻 I am not a great fan of brown inks, but I like Faber Castell Hazelnut Brown. It is not very dark, but it shows some shading that tends to a darker look.
I'm a new subscriber, and I've been enjoying going back and watching your previous reviews. Thanks for sharing this interesting pen. I recommend Noodler's Walnut ink; it's a dark enough brown that I sometimes dilute it to be able to see it's brown, and it has a waterproof component.
This review convinced me to pull the trigger and buy this pen. So glad I did. I'm using noodler's black swan in English roses and a more perfect ink and pen pairing I've never seen.
Hi! I have it and i have 6013. I'm very impressed by both pens. The writing is very fine and without noise, that rustle like a carioca. I'm super impressed. Cheap but high quality.
I just bought this pen on Amazon in the Fine nib for drawing!! ✍🏻 💕 I also have some of the Noodlers Ink on the way. I can’t wait to get it!! 🥰 Thanks for the great review!
Excellent review! I think you mentioned but I wanted to confirm: IS THIS 'FINE NIB'? As I see options of fine nib, extra fine nib and bent nib in my buying options. Great review again!
I recently got one in the mustard yellow, which is really a PY129 Green Gold, lol, medium nib. It's fantastic, smooth, easy fill, nice size cartridge. I've ordered a bent nib as well. Nice review, thx.
I bought 4 last week, both colors, and the big fat black one, which they gave me two more for free, with ink. 5 pens for about 30$, but I live in Beijing. Ink included. They have some nice others called the seasons. They are great. Post great and are tanks. The black nibs are cool. Write smoothly and very wet. Yes the nibs screw out to exchange for a fude or 0.4 or 0.5.
I was looking at these on Amazon, because I wanted to try a fude nib with US shipping and the pickings are a little slim at that that price. I'm new to fountain pens and didn't want to spend much in case I can't get the hang of it. The other choice I saw was the Jinhao pens, one with the shell inlay. Hopefully whatever I picks works. Your review was very helpful 😀
Just watched your review. I’ve been looking for a “brown” fountain pen and very much liked your review of this pen. I like fine or extra fine nibs as I have very small handwriting. I’ve ordered some Monteverde Brown Sugar ink to go with it and they will arrive from Amazon (UK) tomorrow! So, just perfect timing - thank you very much! :-)
I picked up one of these, because I needed to replace a pen that broke and I got so use to writing with a fountain pen that using a ball point felt weird. My old pen was also a cheap pen being a Dryden.
Could you please do a video on your style of handwriting. Would love to learn your style. Or maybe you have a video where you write out the whole alphabet? Copperplate is a bit stuffy looking but it’s all I know lol. Thanks!
I own Fude nib Hongdian and 2 Pilot metropolitan (fine and medium). I would recommend both brands of the fountain pen. Both have a premium feels. I own the PM for almost 2 years and used it for note-taking, approximately 500 (on both sides) pages of B5 loose-leaf paper, and 100pages on both sides for A4 loose-leaf paper. Nibs are working very well. The PM is sleek in design but its function is superb. My HD fude (bent) nib I purposely buy for drawing purposes, so far its writing is smooth, and the design is sleek - exquisite. The only thing you will personally consider is the grip when you hold the FP. The PM is slightly big in diameter than the HD. My personal recommendation for a starter based on my experience starts with PM, because it is really durable, then later buy the HD if you decided that you're into fine writing.
Thanks for he review. Might be worth buying it just to salvage the nib for a replacement for your favorite pen! BTW, what note pad are you using and what weight is that paper? Seems to take ink really well without bleeding.
It is an art store marker pad, 46lb. It is one I picked up way back before I was aware of Rhodia, etc. I've been sticking with it just to be consistent across reviews. It takes ink well, and is quite smooth while still having a little texture.
Hi sir, Just got mine... Impressed with the immediate ink flow (contrarily to what I experience usually). However, did the nib get smoother and glide more, specifically on the up stroke, once it shaped to your hand after months of writing with it ?
Great review. You mentioned looking for dark brown black ink.. Try Birmingham Pens Winkies Rootbeer bottle ink. Right here in Pittsburgh. I think you will like it.
There a 6013 model that's thicker and looks more ergonomic, I'm really curious about it. They have it in all metal and a matte black finish. I like this pen a ton, bit it is too thin for me too. I bought it as my first pen with a lamy Safari and I don't know why I paid twice as much for the lamy when this one is just a pleasure to use
One of my wish lists for next month! I've only started into FPs last month I think and already bought several pilots(cheap ones),jinhaos,and a wing sung 3013(after watching your review). Trying to limit how much pens I want to buy even though it's not expensive while practicing my handwriting. By the way the "dian" in hongdian sounds like tea-en(as in pen).
don't limit your pens... i have a problem with that... i have nearly 20 fountain pens now like kakuno, 8 jinhao's, 1 baoer and several daiso's, monami olika, some demonstrator that i forgot the make, and is looking for a new hong dian... if you limit, it makes me feel horrible for myself . hahahahhaa. btw, have you got this hongdian yet? your review please...
I have two of these and the Metro. I'd say the are close enough it comes down to which style you like, and your preferences for the line you want. The Pilot will be a thinner line. HD F = Pilot M, or close to it.
@JG3 Reviews: the precise comparison you gave in the above comment is really helpful. I have ordered this Hong Dian with an F nib and I needed to know what F on this pen meant.
Second day of using this pen. Best pen ever. Writes beautifully. Using the very fine nib. How long befroe the pen stops working no matter how many times i clean it.
Just curious, but I am fairly new to using fountain pens and I purchased a Lamy Safari, (per your review), recently. I have enjoyed the Lamy very much. How would you say this pen stack up against the Lamy? Similar, or vastly different? Thank you and keep up the great reviews!!!!!
The fine nib compares well in my experience, and writes a similar line in terms of smoothness, width, etc. The feel is quite different being metal and having a round section. I'd give the Safari the edge in grip comfort if you like it's ergo grip. It's a different experience, but I really like both pens.
Hello brother! I'm looking for my first fountain pen, I'm trying to decide between this one and the pelikan jazz, what would you recommend me? Great video, hugs from Brazil!
Comes down to preference, but I lean to this pen, because I think the matte finish on the section is better for grip, and the nibs on mine have been quite good.
It sure could be! I have a strict pen budget that relies only on RUclips revenue, and don’t collect the Bibles like I do the pens. I have a few different translations that use all the time. Each of those represents hours of judging high school Lincoln-Douglass Debates in Texas schools to pay for the Bibles. 😉 Nothing from the grocery budget allowed! 🤣
@@JG3Reviews lol sounds like self discipline mixed with the bills and wife keeps you from putting your mind into that compulsive mind state too deep. I’m single so I’m a dangerous window shopper, I keep putting pressure on that trigger until……..whoooops.
It is a matte finish. I’ve used it as a workhorse pen at my workplace. It’s a rather unforgiving work environment and I carry it everywhere. Mine is really beat up after scraping against so many things. But the nib (EF) never failed me after almost 4 months of being the only pen I use day in and out.
If you’re looking for a great dark brown ink for this...Noodlers makes several...Whaleman’s Sepia (via Goulet) and Walnut. Walnut is a stellar performer.
Hello Sir, Really liking your detailed reviews on Fountain Pens and myself started to use them after a gap of 20 years (I am in my 35s now). Just out of curiosity, wanted to ask how much of a difference in nib roughness is present when a HongDianBlackForest EF nib is compared with its F nib. I am using a wet ink (Waterman Tender Purple) with my BlackForest E.F. nib and since it is an E.F. i feel a little bit of scratchy feeling (no problem whatsoever with the Beautiful and Consistent ink flow from the feeder using Waterman wet ink-Tender Purple). Is the F nib somewhat smoother and tad bit thicker than the (lil'bit) scratchy E.F. nib? Cheers and e-peace...
The F, which is what I have the most experience with in these pens, is the smoother of the two. You can see the review of the newer blue version here, it's also in F. ruclips.net/video/wCQJGDGGsMU/видео.html Thanks for watching!
At first I just loved your reviews. Now I start to think I really hate them, because I end up wanting to buy everything. Great-terrible video, by the way. I love-hate it.
I like them both a lot, it's difficult to pick favorite of the two. The nib is very smooth, and the pen overall is just very well made. I've 0 issues with either pen. The HD is a heavier pen as the MUJI is aluminum and very light. Capped the HD is longer, but it's better balanced uncapped. I think the writing experience with my Black Forest is the one that's more surprising. I am still very pleased with well it writes, and the quality of the pen.
@@JG3Reviews Is the pen good with Noodlers Ink, and how durable is it?? Oh, and what paper works well with it. I wanted to know if it worked well with the Wide Ruled Composition type papers. I would like to know how many gsm would work well with the paper
The black ink I used in the review was Noodler’s Black Eel, at this link: amzn.to/2EpRtoo . The ink I keep in it most of the time is Monteverde Brown Sugar (a viewer suggestion that is a really nice brown ink): amzn.to/3hLevni
Thanks! I don't have a large collection of black inks, but I do like Noodler's Black (Eel line), Noodler's Heart of Darkness, Platinum's black ink, and Sailor's Jentle black.
Try the Lamy Crystal Ink Obsidian. Really dark black with a slight dark cool green undertone and loads of black sheen. Quite cheap, too, at least here in Germany.
The nib unit unscrews, but on mine the nib/feed seem to be glued. I just had auto do a deep clean of mine yesterday. I soaked the nib unit in distilled water and that did the trick without having to disassemble further. I accidentally left it with a brown ink in it that clogged it completely when it dried out. All good now.
@@gryphonblaze6073 I've used tap before and not had any issues. Sometimes just an hour or two will be surprisingly effective. Some inks I've left it soaking all night. Just use room temperature, though. Hot water can damage the plastic feeds.
It's a very black nib, but as far as being a blackened steel or an applied finish, I really can't say 100%. I'd think it's an applied finish and only time will tell how durable it is. For now, mine is holding up very well.
It's a coated steel. I have the ultrafine, and the underside of the nib between the feed and the tip is uncoated. Don't know if it's paint or anodized or another coating technology.
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Mine has just arrived - and it is perfect. I've always dreamt of a fountain pen, now I'm going to give my students Fs with great pleasure!
Lool, thank you for this comment!✨️ have a nice day.
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I own this pen as well and it is an excellent pen. To be honest it is the smoothest nib I have ever used, it truly just glides across the paper. It is an amazing buy and a great starter pen as well.
Hey! Do you know whether flex nibs like Zebra G, omniflex, FPR are suitable for Hongdian?
The cap on these are very satisfying to put on and post. Nice sound, and it is on there pretty securely.
I have the Hongdian Black Forest 1850 The Light of Hope pen, which is a Black Forest in a deep blue with a blue nib. Super pen! I love it!
The different shades of black are really cool, but it also seems unintentional. This is actually one of my most used pens, I absolutely love it. It's not the smoothest but somehow it's so sturdy and unassuming that I tend to prefer it on a day to day basis.
I have been enjoying this pen for a month and it is one of my "daily carry" pens. Great price and an excellent pen. Another great reviw James!
Hi James, lovely review! I've recently started using fountain pens after years being frustrated at ballpoints, rollerballs & felt tips - finally, I've found a style of pen that I like (important, considering that I'm a digital artist that likes to sketch things in pen)! So far I only have a Pilot Metropolitan and a couple of Platinum Preppy pens, but I'm looking to add a few more to my collection. This is a very handsome looking pen, and a very affordable price. Based on your review, I've ordered one of these, thank you!
Thanks for watching. I think you'll definitely like the pen.
Just recently discovered this amazing fountain pen. The brass version feels great, writes even better. Great value.
Small correction, it doesn't take standard international cartridges. The opening in the converter is larger. It looks like the same size as the Wing Sung converters.
Thanks for noting that, this is correct. And, I just double checked since I had one handy, the converter from the Wing Sung 6359 was a perfect swap.
I decided that I wanted to try a fountain pen, I ordered one of these because I liked the look of it. Should be delivered sometime this weekend. Looking forward to trying it and seeing what it's like to use a fountain pen.
Rec'd the pen today and its black, shiny cap, section and nib. Its very understated.
If you can get one, it would be very interesting a review about the Muji Fountain Pen!
Picked this up a few weeks ago. Superb writer, great balance right out of the box.
I just got two of them last week, a fine and an extra fine. I love them both, there is some variation in the colors. On one of them the cap is about the same dark brown color as the textured part (almost like a dark bronze statue color) and the other is like yours were the cap is a dark brown color and the textured part is darker, almost black.
I like the stiff clip, it feels secure in my pocket.
I have MANY fountain pens and this one is among the smoothest I own. I have it loaded up with Noodler’s Walnut ink & it’s an excellent match. My Fine writes more like a Japanese Medium. Very good flow. Very solid. Very handsome. Arguably the best low cost pen available. Very highly recommended. I liked it so much I ordered the XFine too.
Using the Xtra Fine Nib Version right now and can say that it is much better than I expect, especially from this company.
Hey! Do you know whether flex nibs like Zebra G, omniflex, FPR are suitable for Hongdian?
@@davidlegkodukh6969 Hey! Do you know whether flex nibs like Zebra G, omniflex, FPR are suitable for Hongdian?
@@ЧешуйчатаяЯщерица Not sure depends on the size of the nib.
Great review! This is a surprisingly great pen for the price. It writes as smooth as some of the expensive gold nib pens, and feels solid in the hand.
What a relaxing voice, thank you for the review!
This will be my first fountain pen, I have used glass dip pens which I like but wanted something that I can take with me, arrives today. Thanks for the video, they do have more color choices now for this model.
I own this pen in EF and I love it. It feels really nice in the hand. I was really surprised how good of a pen it is considering the price.
It's definitely black brown, and IT IS GORGEOUS. I'm a sucker for fountain pens and this one's my favorite.
I, likewise, am glad it turns out that it wasn't black; the brown is just so lovely!
I pair it with Pelikan 4001 ink, Brilliant Brown ✒️♥️
I carved the paint off on my black forest and honesty I love it I left the grip and top of the cap as black but the rest is silver and the textured part is almost like a copper I think it ads alot more personality to the pen
i’ve been looking at this pen vs. the pilot metropolitan for a while now. this is my first fountain pen and i’m trying to do as much research as possible before buying. thank you for your video and i think i’ll be buying this pen today!
Sameee lol
@@alineomg4304 you got yours yet? is it good?
I receive mine tomorrow! So excited! I have a close friend in the military who I intend to write letters for. Now I only wish I had your handwriting!
I have one with. fude nib that I use for drawing. It has Noodler’s Lexington Grey ink in it which is waterproof so that I can apply watercolours on top. It’s a perfect pen, never dries out, no hard starts and still looks brand new after a year of use.
That's good to hear! I love that Lexington ink. I would have thought it was boring, but I enjoy how much it appears to be a good pencil, yet is ink.
Which fude did you fit in this?
@@jodgey4 The pen was already fitted with a fude nib when I purchased it from Amazon.
I agree this was one of the first fountain pens I bought, actually the first, I just found it on amazon with good reviews. I am still a newbie only several months in. However this is still one of my top writers out of about 30 pens I now own. I am curious to try an EF nib now as I have the F nib. I am impressed with the price as it is very high quality. I see you already commented that standard cartridges don’t fit. I bought a bunch on the link on amazon that was in the description of this pen as listed on amazon. I bought the white version of this as well I liked it so much. Thanks for the review, there isn’t much out there on this one. Now a new subscriber to your channel.
I see there are now converters on amazon under hongdian now. www.amazon.com/Hongdian-Fountain-Converter-Diameter-3-4mm/dp/B084VHW7YM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=Q1FMQA4KZCLR&keywords=wing+sung+fountain+pen+converters+3.4mm+bore+diameter&qid=1583168367&s=office-products&sprefix=Wing+sung+fountain+pen+conver%2Coffice-products%2C175&sr=1-2
James, you’re a bad influence on me (just kidding). After seeing your review, I went to check out the pen on Amazon with no intentions of buying it. The low price got me though. I love it! It’s such a sturdy little pen and what a smooth writer. It may be one of my favorite pens. One of the little things this company has done that makes a big difference in the way this pen writes is that little spring in the converter which helps keep the ink flowing beautifully. No hard starts or scratchiness. Thanks for a great review.
Glad you like it! This is one of those pens that I really liked at the time of the review, and would recommend even more with greater use. Mine has just been great.
JG3 Reviews Agreed!
Looking at just the pictures of the pen, I thought it looked good and sturdy. You just confirmed it. Thanks!
After seeing your review of this pen, I decided to buy it. It's affordable price tag and the fact that it comes with a converter made the decision that much easier to make. You were right. This pen is fantastic! I got the EF nib and I simply love the feel and the precision of the lines. Thank you for another excellent review!
Glad you like it!
This is my first fountain pen! Interestingly enough, the cap on mine is as equally black as the body. I really love it.
These is indeed a great pen. Mine is quite all black, I like the two tone on yours too..
I bought one and then a second identical pen. I always carry two fountain pens (or a fountain pen and a ballpoint pen) because I don’t want to run out of ink. I agree with everything you said in your review. This is an excellent pen for the money.
Got this pen a few weeks ago, love it. I use it at work for everyday writing. It even works on carbon copy paper lol
My Black Forest is a couple of years older than yours, and the smoother portions of the pen are as deep of a black as the textured part. Not sure when it changed or whether yours or mine is the exception. It is a nice writer though. I do wish it took standard international cartridges though. Just buy the converter when you buy the pen and it is no longer an issue. The news that it takes regular Wing Sung converters is useful to know. The pen is also available on Ali Express cheaper than Amazon usually.
Thank you and I just love your videos. I just ordered this pen, from amazon with a nice brown/black noodlers ink.
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the pen & ink.
Thank you for the video. First time here; you have a great voice for narrating!
Thank you for the clear explanation.
Thanks!
I love my HDs, I have EFN & FN, and they're smooth writing pens. For me, they're much smoother than my Lamys. And much cheaper; weight is awesome, but i prefer if they're a bit more weighty. They're my goto pens now.
Interestingly, my pen actually is solid all black. I've got the fine nib as well, and use the same ink. :-) I agrees, it's a very smooth pen with just enough scratch to feel really good on decent paper. They also sell just the nibs and replacement converters. I'm seriously thinking of getting some so I can easily use different ink colors.
Great review!
Being able to easily find extra nib units is definitely another + for these pens. Thanks for watching!
Which do you think is the best purchase? This or the Lamy Safari umbra?
Both good, and both have held up well for me. I’d lean to the Safari, but it’s mostly down to personal preferences. Do you prefer metal or plastic? Do you prefer a slimmer grip (Forest) or an ergonomic grip (Safari)? Do you think you’ll want to swap nibs later (both can, but the Safari is easier)?
@@JG3Reviews too late mate, I've ordered both 🤣 thank you anyway
@@dmb77 That’s what I did, too. Enjoy!
A nice video for an interesting looking pen - thank you 🙏🏻 I am not a great fan of brown inks, but I like Faber Castell Hazelnut Brown. It is not very dark, but it shows some shading that tends to a darker look.
I'm a new subscriber, and I've been enjoying going back and watching your previous reviews. Thanks for sharing this interesting pen. I recommend Noodler's Walnut ink; it's a dark enough brown that I sometimes dilute it to be able to see it's brown, and it has a waterproof component.
Thanks!
This review convinced me to pull the trigger and buy this pen. So glad I did. I'm using noodler's black swan in English roses and a more perfect ink and pen pairing I've never seen.
Hi! I have it and i have 6013. I'm very impressed by both pens. The writing is very fine and without noise, that rustle like a carioca. I'm super impressed. Cheap but high quality.
Price is right. Just bought one. Good review. Thx.
I just bought this pen on Amazon in the Fine nib for drawing!! ✍🏻 💕 I also have some of the Noodlers Ink on the way. I can’t wait to get it!! 🥰 Thanks for the great review!
Excellent review! I think you mentioned but I wanted to confirm: IS THIS 'FINE NIB'? As I see options of fine nib, extra fine nib and bent nib in my buying options. Great review again!
Yes, it is a fine nib.
I have been looking at this pen quite a bit, am intending to get the green or blue one.
I recently got one in the mustard yellow, which is really a PY129 Green Gold, lol, medium nib. It's fantastic, smooth, easy fill, nice size cartridge. I've ordered a bent nib as well. Nice review, thx.
Have one of these, very comfortable and well balanced. Easy to write with. Great for the money.
ine was all black. Beautiful.
Thanks for the review. You've got e interested in picking one up!
I bought 4 last week, both colors, and the big fat black one, which they gave me two more for free, with ink. 5 pens for about 30$, but I live in Beijing. Ink included. They have some nice others called the seasons. They are great. Post great and are tanks. The black nibs are cool. Write smoothly and very wet. Yes the nibs screw out to exchange for a fude or 0.4 or 0.5.
Thank you mentioning the fude. I meant to and forgot. Chrisrap52 has reviewed that nib and liked it.
Comparison to the Muji pen would be interesting.
Good idea. I've been looking for an excuse to check out the Muji.
@@JG3Reviews Definitely worth a vid! I'm undecided on the Hong Dian, would prefer an actual all black one.
I was looking at these on Amazon, because I wanted to try a fude nib with US shipping and the pickings are a little slim at that that price. I'm new to fountain pens and didn't want to spend much in case I can't get the hang of it. The other choice I saw was the Jinhao pens, one with the shell inlay. Hopefully whatever I picks works. Your review was very helpful 😀
Just watched your review. I’ve been looking for a “brown” fountain pen and very much liked your review of this pen. I like fine or extra fine nibs as I have very small handwriting. I’ve ordered some Monteverde Brown Sugar ink to go with it and they will arrive from Amazon (UK) tomorrow! So, just perfect timing - thank you very much! :-)
I ordered the Monteverde Brown Sugar as well, and I'm glad you mentioned it. It is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the heads up!
@@JG3Reviews No problem, glad you liked it too!
I picked up one of these, because I needed to replace a pen that broke and I got so use to writing with a fountain pen that using a ball point felt weird. My old pen was also a cheap pen being a Dryden.
Thanks James! Very interesting!
Did you get the fine or the medium?
Could you please do a video on your style of handwriting. Would love to learn your style. Or maybe you have a video where you write out the whole alphabet? Copperplate is a bit stuffy looking but it’s all I know lol. Thanks!
I'll try to put that together.
Thank you!
How does this compare to the Pilot Metropolitan? Want to get one of the two as my starter pen? Any recommendation on one vs the other?
For overall quality I’d go for this one; that’s just me.
I bought a cheap zebra pen it was 5 bucks as my first
I own Fude nib Hongdian and 2 Pilot metropolitan (fine and medium). I would recommend both brands of the fountain pen. Both have a premium feels. I own the PM for almost 2 years and used it for note-taking, approximately 500 (on both sides) pages of B5 loose-leaf paper, and 100pages on both sides for A4 loose-leaf paper. Nibs are working very well. The PM is sleek in design but its function is superb. My HD fude (bent) nib I purposely buy for drawing purposes, so far its writing is smooth, and the design is sleek - exquisite. The only thing you will personally consider is the grip when you hold the FP. The PM is slightly big in diameter than the HD. My personal recommendation for a starter based on my experience starts with PM, because it is really durable, then later buy the HD if you decided that you're into fine writing.
Mine is arriving tomorrow from Amazon, of course.
Thanks for he review. Might be worth buying it just to salvage the nib for a replacement for your favorite pen!
BTW, what note pad are you using and what weight is that paper? Seems to take ink really well without bleeding.
You can buy the nib units separately.
It is an art store marker pad, 46lb. It is one I picked up way back before I was aware of Rhodia, etc. I've been sticking with it just to be consistent across reviews. It takes ink well, and is quite smooth while still having a little texture.
Actually mine is all black also there is a little spring in the converter which doesn’t seem to be in yours
How strange
Hi sir, Just got mine... Impressed with the immediate ink flow (contrarily to what I experience usually). However, did the nib get smoother and glide more, specifically on the up stroke, once it shaped to your hand after months of writing with it ?
Yes, it broke in well and is a very good writer.
Got one of these myself - great value - thanks for the review!
Black Forest maybe the forest is hinting brown?
Great review. You mentioned looking for dark brown black ink.. Try Birmingham Pens Winkies Rootbeer bottle ink. Right here in Pittsburgh. I think you will like it.
I'll look into that. I just got a couple of inks from then not long ago, and was very pleased.
@@JG3Reviews I really like their inks. They are going to be making their own very soon
There a 6013 model that's thicker and looks more ergonomic, I'm really curious about it. They have it in all metal and a matte black finish. I like this pen a ton, bit it is too thin for me too. I bought it as my first pen with a lamy Safari and I don't know why I paid twice as much for the lamy when this one is just a pleasure to use
I love that you have a review for every pen that i found on Amazon 😂
And they keep making more! 🤣
Okay, you talked me into it. I've seen these pens listed on Amazon, but knew nothing about them. Time to try one.
Hope you enjoy it, mine has been getting lots of use at the office.
Just got this one. I'd might wanna try one a medium nib bit this fine one I got is uber fine itself 😘
One of my wish lists for next month!
I've only started into FPs last month I think and already bought several pilots(cheap ones),jinhaos,and a wing sung 3013(after watching your review).
Trying to limit how much pens I want to buy even though it's not expensive while practicing my handwriting.
By the way the "dian" in hongdian sounds like tea-en(as in pen).
Thanks for the pronunciation tip!
don't limit your pens... i have a problem with that... i have nearly 20 fountain pens now like kakuno, 8 jinhao's, 1 baoer and several daiso's, monami olika, some demonstrator that i forgot the make, and is looking for a new hong dian... if you limit, it makes me feel horrible for myself . hahahahhaa.
btw, have you got this hongdian yet? your review please...
is it better than the pilot metropolitan or the pilot is just better?
I have two of these and the Metro. I'd say the are close enough it comes down to which style you like, and your preferences for the line you want. The Pilot will be a thinner line. HD F = Pilot M, or close to it.
@@JG3Reviews Thanks man
@JG3 Reviews: the precise comparison you gave in the above comment is really helpful. I have ordered this Hong Dian with an F nib and I needed to know what F on this pen meant.
Thank you for the review sir
Second day of using this pen. Best pen ever. Writes beautifully. Using the very fine nib. How long befroe the pen stops working no matter how many times i clean it.
Thx for the review.
Just I'm using very satisfied the 'Black Forest'. It's very close to the MUJI Aluminium, and this represents a good compliment, Imo.
Just curious, but I am fairly new to using fountain pens and I purchased a Lamy Safari, (per your review), recently. I have enjoyed the Lamy very much. How would you say this pen stack up against the Lamy? Similar, or vastly different? Thank you and keep up the great reviews!!!!!
The fine nib compares well in my experience, and writes a similar line in terms of smoothness, width, etc. The feel is quite different being metal and having a round section. I'd give the Safari the edge in grip comfort if you like it's ergo grip. It's a different experience, but I really like both pens.
Does it use a Monteverde ink cartridge?
No, these use a 3.4 mm bore Chinese Standard cartridge.
Hello brother! I'm looking for my first fountain pen, I'm trying to decide between this one and the pelikan jazz, what would you recommend me? Great video, hugs from Brazil!
Comes down to preference, but I lean to this pen, because I think the matte finish on the section is better for grip, and the nibs on mine have been quite good.
@@JG3Reviews I'll buy this one then, thanks!
Também estou com a mesma dúvida, vou comprar essa!
This pen seems to be less advertised and underrated compared with the other pen brands that we come across.
Commenting before watching. I have this pen with the fude nib. I LOVE IT! 🥰
I use Diamine Dragon's Blood shimmering ink in this pen. The fude nib allows the shimmer through and writes a great line!
Why don’t a lot of people talk about this pen
Robert Oster Sepia Nights is a very dark brown/black ink and may suit your pen nicely.
I’ll have to take a look at that. 👍🏼
Is that a Schuyler Bible up there!?
Good eye! Yes, it is.
@@JG3Reviews premium bibles and fountain pens, a recipe for financial disaster.
It sure could be! I have a strict pen budget that relies only on RUclips revenue, and don’t collect the Bibles like I do the pens. I have a few different translations that use all the time. Each of those represents hours of judging high school Lincoln-Douglass Debates in Texas schools to pay for the Bibles. 😉
Nothing from the grocery budget allowed! 🤣
@@JG3Reviews lol sounds like self discipline mixed with the bills and wife keeps you from putting your mind into that compulsive mind state too deep. I’m single so I’m a dangerous window shopper, I keep putting pressure on that trigger until……..whoooops.
is it matte finish ? cuz most pen with matte finish will peel somtimes
It is a matte finish. Seems to wear well, but it'll depend on how it's used and abused.
It is a matte finish. I’ve used it as a workhorse pen at my workplace. It’s a rather unforgiving work environment and I carry it everywhere. Mine is really beat up after scraping against so many things. But the nib (EF) never failed me after almost 4 months of being the only pen I use day in and out.
Mine is definitely all black, no trace of brown black.
Mine too
If you’re looking for a great dark brown ink for this...Noodlers makes several...Whaleman’s Sepia (via Goulet) and Walnut. Walnut is a stellar performer.
Hekat the Evil B-tch Then be sure to read the “history” bit that goes along with the Whaleman’s. It’s really very interesting.
Hello Sir, Really liking your detailed reviews on Fountain Pens and myself started to use them after a gap of 20 years (I am in my 35s now). Just out of curiosity, wanted to ask how much of a difference in nib roughness is present when a HongDianBlackForest EF nib is compared with its F nib. I am using a wet ink (Waterman Tender Purple) with my BlackForest E.F. nib and since it is an E.F. i feel a little bit of scratchy feeling (no problem whatsoever with the Beautiful and Consistent ink flow from the feeder using Waterman wet ink-Tender Purple). Is the F nib somewhat smoother and tad bit thicker than the (lil'bit) scratchy E.F. nib?
Cheers and e-peace...
The F, which is what I have the most experience with in these pens, is the smoother of the two. You can see the review of the newer blue version here, it's also in F. ruclips.net/video/wCQJGDGGsMU/видео.html
Thanks for watching!
At first I just loved your reviews. Now I start to think I really hate them, because I end up wanting to buy everything.
Great-terrible video, by the way. I love-hate it.
The Untwit this is my favorite comment. Best of all time
I returned mine. Really cool looking and extremely smooth but very heavy and uncomfortable grip. Can't beat the price though.
just wondering ....how is this one in comparison to MUJI? I know you have that one. thanks
I like them both a lot, it's difficult to pick favorite of the two. The nib is very smooth, and the pen overall is just very well made. I've 0 issues with either pen. The HD is a heavier pen as the MUJI is aluminum and very light. Capped the HD is longer, but it's better balanced uncapped.
I think the writing experience with my Black Forest is the one that's more surprising. I am still very pleased with well it writes, and the quality of the pen.
@@JG3Reviews thanks. I will order it later. just got 12 pens yesterday....I think I will be ok for a while.....lol
@@JG3Reviews Is the pen good with Noodlers Ink, and how durable is it?? Oh, and what paper works well with it. I wanted to know if it worked well with the Wide Ruled Composition type papers. I would like to know how many gsm would work well with the paper
What is the name and type of ink ... Please provide the link for these products if you have them
The black ink I used in the review was Noodler’s Black Eel, at this link: amzn.to/2EpRtoo .
The ink I keep in it most of the time is Monteverde Brown Sugar (a viewer suggestion that is a really nice brown ink): amzn.to/3hLevni
@@JG3Reviews Thanks man, I really appreciate your responding 🖋💚
Hey i love ur content! What do you recommend for a black ink ?
Thanks! I don't have a large collection of black inks, but I do like Noodler's Black (Eel line), Noodler's Heart of Darkness, Platinum's black ink, and Sailor's Jentle black.
Try the Lamy Crystal Ink Obsidian. Really dark black with a slight dark cool green undertone and loads of black sheen. Quite cheap, too, at least here in Germany.
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Do you know how to take out the nib from the feeder? To clean
The nib unit unscrews, but on mine the nib/feed seem to be glued. I just had auto do a deep clean of mine yesterday. I soaked the nib unit in distilled water and that did the trick without having to disassemble further. I accidentally left it with a brown ink in it that clogged it completely when it dried out. All good now.
@@JG3Reviews can I use regular tap water and how long should I leave it in water?
@@gryphonblaze6073 I've used tap before and not had any issues. Sometimes just an hour or two will be surprisingly effective. Some inks I've left it soaking all night. Just use room temperature, though. Hot water can damage the plastic feeds.
@@JG3Reviews ok tnx, for the info sir.
Is the nib really black, or is painted steel?
It's a very black nib, but as far as being a blackened steel or an applied finish, I really can't say 100%. I'd think it's an applied finish and only time will tell how durable it is. For now, mine is holding up very well.
@@JG3Reviews, than you for your fast reply.
I suscribed just an hour ago.
Greetings from Chile, South America.
@@JG3Reviews What about the cartilages they recommend on the pens description? Do those work with the pen.
It's a coated steel.
I have the ultrafine, and the underside of the nib between the feed and the tip is uncoated.
Don't know if it's paint or anodized or another coating technology.
Manuscript Sepia is a Brown/Black ink......
I've just got mine today and the cap and grip are definitely all black, maybe they've changed it since the making of this video.
Manuscript Sepia ink, dark, dark brown black ink...good stuff
Where would you say the center of gravity is?
Haii good day :') Sorry just wanna ask, can we change the nib?