This could affect the iPhone forever! Apple is TIRED of being BULLIED!
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After being subjected to meddling and bullying from the UK government, Apple has announced that it wants to remove iMessage from the UK.
Apple is tired of being bullied by the UK government, and it's looking to take some action to rectify the situation. iMessage is one of the key features of Apple products, and the company wants to ensure that it remains free and accessible to everyone in the UK.
If you're in the UK and use iMessage, make sure to stay logged in and keep an eye on the news to see what happens next! This is an interesting story that will definitely have a lasting impact on the way you use Apple products!If someone is claiming to be me and using Whatsapp or Telegram to give you a prize, it's a SCAM!
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They are right about this. Encryption should not be disabled.
I'm grateful for Apple. They are protecting the US users. Yes, they will lose market share, but they are willing to take that hit. It's awesome. Let the people that are losing these services complain to their government about it.
apple charged 700.00 for wheels for a computer. They arent going to take the hit. They think they are able to bluff because they are such a big company. however the flex might prove to be successful. Then Apple will be like "wow, that was close." But if they do, do it. I give them mad props.
@@4000marcdmanif they succeed, even Apple haters may migrate to Apple. Would be a great move for them. Then android will take a stance. Don’t mess with people’s privacy. Especially, government. They have some of the most corrupt people in the world.
@@4000marcdman the wheels were for media attention
@@culan_SCP they still took the money.
Don't forget the $1,000 Apple stand for their monitor... I laugh every time I see it listed lol 😂Apple would be much better if they just chilled with the control freak tactics
As much as I don’t like Apple’s tactics, they’re totally right with this. The US government dismantled the black panther party.
ikr, US GOV conspiring against BPP *sigh*
Go Apple! Thanks for standing your ground! I think if the government or the police need access to information on someone’s phone, they should get a court order on a case by case basis. General surveillance of everyone’s phone because “there are criminals out there” is bonkers, and not in any way justified.
not just Apple but Whatsapp and Signal as well. So if this passes, there is going to be a lot of backlash.
I don't usually like Apple's tactics but in this case it might be the right move because it will cause the consumers to respond in outcry to the government's moves which is more powerful than Apple trying to decry it themselves.
Governments have 1 job to do. They have to put laws in place for the people of their state, country, or continent so that everyone is happy and content somehow. And nothing else. They don't have the right to tell technology companies what they should/shouldn't do. This is getting out of hand now.
Ehhh....I only agree with this to a certain extent. All organizations need regulation at a certain point
Privacy is a hill worth dying on.
Simply put,
"Should the government..."
"NO!"
End of discussion.
No doubt.
I think it is not that big of an L from the perspective of Apple. In Europe way more people use Whatsapp than they use iMessage and FaceTime for texting and video calling. I think that also goes for the UK.
Yes. We use WhatsApp far more than IMessage here in the UK. WhatsApp wouldn't really be missed, but FaceTime would
Yes we have a very high Apple user base in the UK (over 50%) but we all use WhatsApp.
As an Attorney, I hate the idea that the Government will be able to read the messages between Attorneys and their Clients.
I'm glad to see you uploading again, Travis.
Sounds like apple 🍏 is doing something great 👍🏼
Most people in EU and UK even iPhone users don’t use FaceTime and iMessage though .
UK is being dumb, but Apple even if they remove that feature from the UK won’t lose sells.
i agree for the uk law but as living in EU i 'm glad that usb c is mandatory, the only reason that Apple kept the lightning cable is money not for technical purpose.
Great topic. I think it's OK for the govt to intervene against tech to "protect the consumer", but not to "infringe on the consumer". Like right to repair one's own iPhone, where Apple has resisted. You raise some gr8 topics...
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People will just move to different apps, not that big of a deal. But glad apple is fighting back on this one.
Kind of is a big deal in all honesty, the uk govt needs to crawl back under the rock they came from and stop fucking with these tech companies because they will get burnt like they did with the MS/ABK deal
That's why I was against the EU request from the beginning even if it seems pro-consumers. It's a slippery slope. It starts with forcing usb-c and ends with forcing a backdoor. It also hinders innovation because usually these types of requests come from people who don't know much about technology if any.
Precisely. It's ludicrous that a company can spend all the money Apple has to build an ecosystem and then someone can force them to use whatever charging/data cable they want because they want to not have to purchase a separate cable if they have an Android device. Why don't they force PC manufacturers to do away with USB A?
Couldn't agree more with this video and its conclusion.
the EU told apple they can make a perpetuity usb- c cables that was months ago and the EU said no way and stopped apple from doing that.
Good to have you back doing tech videos, since you actually do creative and different tech videos
I appreciate that!
@@TravisMCP oh hell no I don’t want for the government to see my text messages or my information. I want to keep that private.
I stand with Apple on this.
Kudos to Apple for standing firm on security. Lightening vs. USB-C, minor inconvenience at best.
It is a slippery slide but giving corporations personhood is an even bigger slippery slope.
Apple is on the money with this. I hope they stand their ground.
Im with Apple hold it’s ground !!
I totally agree. It’s the right thing to take a stand against governments intrusion, and to our lives. That’s none of their business. I’m thinking the same thing as you. It’s kind of weird the way they’re going about it but if that’s what it takes I’m glad that at least they’re willing to take a stand.
The lightning port is slow but it is a better physical design than the USB-C.
Functionality is more important here
I agree. USB-C is too easy for lint, or debris to get stuck in and harder to clean out than Lightening ports.
@@BrianGlazewhat are you going to be doing with your USB-C port?
Apple is good about privacy that’s one reason why I switched from native android this past year I’m proud of them!!!
I think it’s a totally bad move on the part of the UK government but also hard to imagine Apple removing those key services from UK iPhones! Wow! 😱😔
Apple is doing the right thing. BlackBerry used to have to deal with this too.
The problem with government dictating standards is that innovation dies. You may still be using usb-c 30 years from now with virtually zero innovation. Let consumers freaking decide.
The governments of the world are power mad these days.
Our times are so complicated. I just wish there was no evil. As long as threats exist, governments will always want a way to disrupt privacy, but then what stops them from overreaching? The organizers of society need to be well versed in matters of technology more than ever.
I'd stop sending iPhones in any country that tries this kinda BS.
F the EU !! Stand your ground Apple! That’s why we love you and keep buying your products
I am from Germany and I am very glad of that we have the EU sometimes.
The USBC thing is good and useful. I like it, also that they must add Sideloads to 2025 I think.
Haha, great Dave Chappelle clip
Apple has quite a big market in UK, if they are willing to take this market hit to "protect" their consumers, that means something.
I wonder if there is a work around for FaceTime on iPads and Mac’s?
do people even use wired chargers anymore?
Apple is right in this instance.
I’m so pleased to find that at this late stage of my life, some corporate entity has the intestinal fortitude and chutzpah to actually stand up to government privacy intervention attempts. Such occurrences are rare enough in individuals but it’s absolutely unprecedented at the corporate level. Bravo Apple!❤
I’m with Apple on this one. Governments around the world have proven time and again that they do not have the people’s best interest. I wonder what Google’s stance on this…
It is a difference with it being preinstalled and the customer installing after purchase. Apple obeys the law by not having it installed when sold, but if the customer installs after purchasing, you no longer can go after Apple.
Without iMessage and facetime it's basically an android phone😂
Very good and interesting story and interesting story you bring up some good points !!!
Disabling ete encryption is weak af tho. Ngl. Usb c yes. Lessening security is weak af
It won’t just get removed from iPhones it will go from iPads and Macs to because the end to end encryption is on those devices as well. The updated to the IPA is out for consultation and along with Apple, Google and Meta have objected to the proposed changes
Its the right move. if they give into the UK, what is the prevent the US from wanting the same access if not more? If this happens, my guess is some 3rd party app would replace IMessage and Facetime would be Google Duo or something like that. But what I hope this would do is force the UK to back off.
That’s perfect people would understand this better.
It’s already in UAE, Apple has disabled facetime in UAE
What if the European Union force apple to put nova launcher on and 3 icon packs. 🤣🤣
I think we need to be mindful that our security is of the utmost importance. I would also like to say that everyone doesn't think the way we do. Some people really wanna bring harm onto us and our families and they are using ever more powerful devices like our phones to do so. In a perfect world I would agree that the government is overreaching. Terror is not something we wanna see play out before we concede to the idea that we might need to give a lil to gain a lot. I have nothing to hide.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-Ben F
As a somewhat new to Apple consumer, I like that Apple is standing up to this. Thanks for this story coverage Travis!
I like the lightning cable. Maybe I'm weird but it is cool to be able to plug in my phone without looking at the port. I'm half blind and it's handy.
Edward Snowden. Its already like that in n the US since decades.
I think if the EU went as far as to mandate usb C, they should have also forced fazed out USB A, the arguments are the same, 1 type of connector, fewer cables needed. All electronics will only have USB C in the future and it’s better. It’s sad that they targetted Apple but didn’t made the whole industry better. Shows that lawmakers who don’t live and breathe tech should not be allowed to legislate it. If anyone disagrees, reply with what USB A does better than USB C.
P.S. USB A is everywhere is not a valid argument. Lightening was everywhere but the EU decided that they needed to standardise and people/places will adapt.
I'm a UK iphone user and to be honest I agree with Apple's stance on this but sadly even if they remove iMessage and Facetime most people won't be too bothered if they have to use WhatsApp or something else for both of those things anyway, I actually use whatsapp way more than either iMessage or Facetime anyway as its a better way of being able to chat and message people irrelevant of which tech ecosystem you use. I'm all in with Apple as I'm a mac user both at home and work and an icloud subscriber too, it will be interesting to see what happens.
Oh and as for the USB-C lightning thing, watch this space but don't be surprised if Apple remove the physical charge port completely and just go full wireless charging instead, again this complies with what the EU want without giving in to using USB-C, again something I personally have no problem with I think Lightning connectors have been very unreliable for years, I personally use those magnetic connectors you buy and put into the lightning port and just leave them there and instead use a magnetic attached cable instead, these allow me to use one cable on literally everything, iphone, non apple headphones and ear buds, wireless mice and keyboard, I literally have one cable that charges them all and the ports vary from lightning, USB-C and even older USB-B mini ports with the added benefit that with the magnetic piece in whatever device it means dust can't get into the charge ports.
I personally thought Apple should pull out of the EU over USB-C, and the other rules they have come up with to make Apple a "Gatekeeper". Just like Kang said at the end of Loki season one. "If you think I'm bad, just wait.. Till you meet my variants". Leave them with Android and walk away. Drop the mic.
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Apple is 100% right.
If they take it off UK iphones yea that's fine but if they remove it for ALL iphones then it's a suicide mission
This is currently just for the UK.
Are you back?!! Missed you, man.
Great to see you back!
Apple sells a lot of iPhones in the UK. They have over 50% of the marker share here. Having said that iMessage is rarely used in the UK even between iPhone users. What’s app is king. So even if they take away iMessage it wouldn’t really effect me and I will carry on using iPhones.
Apple has drawn a line in the sand. Privacy is the line that they won't back down on. Good for them for standing firm here. 👍👍
Even though Apple is putting USB C on the new Iphone, I've heard rumors that it'll only work with an Apple USB C cable. Not just any USB C cable, you have to buy an apple one, or use the one that comes with your new phone. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's just what i had heard. Yes they are switching to USB C, but in the most apple way possible.
Wazzup Travissss!
Great content. For once, I have to say Great job apple. I usually can't stand greedy Tim Crook, but this time I stand with him. Question: Is it only or also samsung, Google, and all the other cellphone companies selling there phone's in the UK?
Travis, love the content and format but very much miss the opening song! That was OG!
Haha thanks 🙏
i dont see a problem with making them go Type C. But from the clip you showed. This new update to the act would effect android devices as well not just Apple. Google Messages and WhatsApp has end to end encryption as well. Its a big L for everyone if the act update is approved.
This won't come to pass so I'm not worried
If the governments were genuinely interested in the consumers well being, they would have lobbied against forced esim adoption and computers that we can no longer upgrade storage and ram in, instead of trying to force Apple to compromise security by requiring them to allow other app stores in their ecosystem and forcing them to adopt USB-C (even though I do think it is better than lighting). As far as I'm concerned, if you want to make so many baseless changes, pay billions in R&D to develop your own ecosystem and then you can call the shots. Apple should not be forced to do any of these things, because if people don't like iOS, they have Android as an option.
If they remove key features like this then they will have to refund everyone that bought the phone that’s simple
As much I love iPhones. I’m tired of waiting for apple to come out with a folding display phone. So I’m leaving iPhone for a folding display phone.
See how great it is to have choices?
I am with apple on this 100%
Not that I am for or against Apple - but while I think that it's good that Apple is "marking the line in the sand", i-device users in the UK will be just fine with alternatives (Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp, Viber, etc.). I think it's more good that there are alternative services available for customers to choose from!
How the big bully of the tech industry gets bullied?? 😂😂😂
UK = EU, certified USA moment
I didn’ say that. I explained that the EU helped with USB and this is the UK. Maybe watch closer next time?
Well, they have a market share of 50.79% so they sell a lot of iPhones! I do believe they should hold the line, btw using iPhones without iMessage and FaceTime is not a huge deal!
They aren’t the only tech company vexed by this as far as what they are threatening to do, they might not be at a loss as android phones are far more sold there
Love it; Apple finally has some kahunas
It's all for your safety and security.
If you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.
You will own nothing, and be happy.
WIRELESS charging anyone?
It smells DDR what EU is doing
I agree with Apple on this one. Also I don't know how true or how many people actually use imessage and facetime in EU but alot of people online keep saying how those 2 things are an American thing and how other messaging apps are used way more in their region unlike the US but I think it could still hurt iPhone sales. Also I heard that the EU wanted to force Apple to use removable batteries on their devices by 2027 and that also sounds like a really bad idea to me. The government telling tech companies what to do with their products especially in the security and privacy department is too far in my opinion.
any country ask China if they can get on your iPhone.
I love the Dave Chapelle clip 😂
I like how Apple is uniquely presented with PR opportunities to "appear" to be for the privacy or their users....while most definitely providing back doors to everything. It's a dirty secret of big tech. They all do it.
I partially agree. They def r opportunistic with privacy n security. Not as private or secure as they make out. However, I did watch the senate hearings re the police wanting a “key,” back door n they held their ground, if I remember correctly.
Go apple
Apple can afford to do this. iMessage isn't as popular outside the US as people think. Now if they pull iDevices out all together that's a different story...
Maby good then that UK has left the EU. I hope iPhone stays as it is without European government interference
Quick, anyone, name 5 things the government does well. I’m waiting…
No one uses those anyways hear in the uk 😂just what’s app
Love you
I support Apple in doing this.
Agreed
THE GOVERMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF APPLES BUISNESSS IF APPLE WANTS TO SCREW THIER COSTOMERS AND THEY ARE WILLING TO TAKE IT .... HEY ITS NOT APPLES FAULT .. GO BACK TO THE REGULAR CONNECTOR.
iMessage and FaceTime overseas aren't a thing... Everyone uses WhatsApp so this is sort of irrelevant.
Actually no it isn't. Whatsapp is threatening to leave the UK as well as Signal and others.
@@TravisMCP didn't know that bit. Impressive to see Zuckerberg caring about privacy...