Government announces decision to progress with transformative MetroLink project
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2022
- The fully integrated 19.4km MetroLink will:
- Provide end to end journey time of circa 25 mins
- Link to major employment, education, transport hubs
- Connect to Irish Rail, DART, Luas and bus services as well as Dublin airport
- Widen bus and rail connectivity for over 1million people and beyond
That momentous day when our great grandchildren will take that first journey on the newly opened Dublin metro to the airport, almost brings a tear to my eye, unfortunately will all be long dead and buried.
Come back and haunt the metro
Joseph and toady
Dublin needs at least two more metro lines, three more Luas lines, full implementation of Bus Connects, and a port tunnel south to Sandyford. It’s actually a real pain trying to get around the city, and is clearly holding it back. The public have been brought on a ride for too long on this! And while I’m at it, the city is filthy, covered in litter, and menacing scumbags everywhere. The footpaths are a disgrace, and so many buildings are in a ramshackle state! It’s such a poorly run city.
Is adding extra modes of transport to a not amazingly intergrated system really what we need. We'd nearly be better off investing in trams or trains which will connect at our key Luas and train stations which are already formed. Although Luas May struggle to provide capacity in the long term. And the train network is already breaking at the seems due to the congestion seem daily around Connolly Station. Hence I can see why a metro would be chosen. Though better interchanges should be developed.
Post recovery Politics 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
@@markleavy8511 blame Shane Ross, and predecessors like Leo Varadkar and Pascal Donohue for using the transport minister's role as a stepping stone as they pared everything back to the bone marrow.
All those railway rolling stock scrapped after the 2000s for pittance
@@markleavy8511 well the much higher capacity of a metro is just needed.
If the interchanges are done well like in Munich, Milan or Vienna, this would be amazing
The council flats littered around the city centre need to be demolished and the occupants rehoused.
Reminds me of the Sydney Metro project (that opened first part of 4 lines in 2019). Same driverless Alstom Metropolis rolling stock it seems, except I love the more open window in the Dublin version. Dubliners should applaud a project as large as this in such a small city (no doubt supported greatly by an excellent economy).
they just copied us
copy and paste
@@DingusAndLevy I'd say inspired. Dublin is quite progressive for a small city. Sydney's size and geography count against it. As a city, Sydney has to invest significantly amounts of money. But I do love the thinking ahead for once in that stations on Sydney Metro have been sized for a 50 year lifespan with the ability to increase both capacity and frequency easily. Frequency and accessibility is far more important to increasing ridership than any other factor. The fact these projects also look pretty in an architectural sense is only icing on the cake.
I wouldn't call Dublin small. Maybe Cork, but not Dublin.
@@nntflow7058 cork is bigger than dublin 💀💀
@@Alex-jn1ez Not true, Dublin Metro area is significantly bigger than Cork Metro are.
And this project created link between outer Dublin to the city center.
This is great, I hope they start construction ASAP.
I am from Germany and lived in Dublin for 9 months (as an expatriate). I loved the city, Ireland in general and its people! I did also like the bus network in Dublin but it did indeed take quite long to get around the city with public transport. The current "Dart" lines, "Luas" lines and bus lines are quite good, in my opinion and the rides were always pleasant but the overall network would need some improvement (luas lines connected to dart lines etc.). This seems like a very helpful project and will be a great addition to the public transport in Dublin.
Problem is the luas runs on 750v DC current and the dart runs on 1500v DC and the luas tracks are 1400mm or 4ft 8.5 inches irish railways standard gauge is 5ft 3 inches 1635mm
it'll never happen
@@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 I think he meant as interchanges like the Luas connects with Irish rail at Heuston.
@@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 i think he meant more transfers not trams running on suburban rail lol
Public transport in Germany is excellent,I went to Munich and Berlin last year and public transport systems there are the best in the world.
Looks like a green Sydney Metro.
I'm glad people are reacting well to this! I love rail infrastructure
This is great. Only problem I would have is no connection from Heuston which would make this a game-changer for the country's other cities. Get it built ASAP, it's far too long overdue.
It links with the Phoenix Park Tunnel line at Glasnevin.
Also luas trams linking at heuston Station to busaras as well and Connolly Station
Yes it does
Rail stations must be fed by credible last mile connectivity via trams/bus lanes as well as usable sidewalks & cycle lanes.
Another new announcement with a glossy video we'll probably never actually see. I hope I'm wrong but decades of this kind of thing gives me zero faith this will happen.
It'll never happen, they have been promising it for years
Logic says it's a matter of when, not if it will happen
It wasn't built at times when the country's economic situation was considerably better than now, and the same clowns governing Ireland back then are the ones overseeing it now. It is hard to believe they will ever built, even more that going by the video, they opted for the most expensive materials and techniques (fully underground, automatic trains, glass doors etc) that exist
I think it will just be easier to live in a virtual Reality version of Dublin, like in the Matrix. That 3d model they created here will do fine.
What's gonna be first DART Underground or Metrolink
Damn, this metro looks just like the Sydney metro, except the front driver view window is lower and bigger
We had this project all ready to go about 10 years ago and we exited our bailout in 2013. It's a real pity we didn't start construction right after that like in 2015 because now inflation is really high and the construction labour market is tight.
The government were probably too busy focusing on other transport projects at the time like connecting the two LUAS lines.
@@stephenmurphy2212 They seriously think cycling is transport - even soviet communists could do better than that! Much of the low density urban fabric in Irish cities should be leveled (1960's style) to make way for proper higher density pedestrian focused communities, reasonable roads (nothing draconian - just fit for purpose) and more importantly, automated metro systems like London's Docklands Light Railway. Seriously, we can't keep on gobbling valuable agricultural land for badly planned urban junk that cycling policy is a pathetic apology for. The Irish planning system is in urgent need of modernization as are the cities!
Squeezing everybody with foreign investors' rent and income tax was the priority
@@RedKnight-fn6jr Well, farmers are being lured and even coerced to sell agricultural land for development.
Every time I pick of the Indo's farmer journal shows a fanaticism for selling agricultural land ...
Better Late than never. In the future, the prices would increased again. Better do it now.
It reminds me of the Copenhagen Metro except I can’t imagine not having fare gates in Dublin
This would be a game changer for getting to and from the airport!
Actually build it this time please.
Hope it can finish asap, hope the service can be provided temporarily even 3 or 4 stations has been ready
Very nice! It's a shame similarly sized cities in the UK can't be as ambitious.
This is in Ireland it’s not apart of the uk.
@@liamneil8918 I know, that's why I said "in the UK" and not "elsewhere in the UK". Dublin metro area, for context, has a far smaller population than Manchester and Birmingham, both of which have no sub-surface transit.
@@liamneil8918 yeah hold ur anglophobia for a min here the comment wasn’t what u think it was
@@Croz89 what are you talking about? Manchester has the largest Tram system in the UK? It had like 7 lines and 100 stations
@@bbubbinklm4320 - Sub service. I.e below ground. Trams are the cheap way of doing things and a proper metro/underground is better.
The rolling stock looks like a Sydney Metro train.
Cause it is
it is
Much needed and overdue!
This train looks exactly like Sydney’s metro
Looks similar to the REM system here in Montreal. The first section opened just last month. Looking forward to visiting Dublin again soon.
It looks so good.
The trains look similar to Sydney Metro's Alstom Metropolis set.
yep lol so similar
Alstom is French, and they built the LUAS trams
@@toyotaprius79 Alstom are also building the new Dart trains which will be the X'Trapolis model like the Melbourne Metro.
Heavy inspiration from Sydney Metro haha. Loving the large window, it would be nice to have it on Sydney’s however our window is smaller given the installation of an exit ramp (in case of emergencies). Will be interesting to see this project fully realised
I was thinking the same thing. But you're right, Sydney does need an exit strategy for breakdowns (although hopefully we don't seem them often if at all). They build escape paths on the Sydney Harbour Bridge for this very thing.
Only difference is, sydney are actually building it right?
@@pipeqez911 yes, Sydney is building it and more.
This is great, but I really hope that the plan for Estuary changes from a park and ride to transit-oriented development with mixed-use buildings. Park and rides on metros rarely bring in significant ridership and are usually a waste of valuable land.
Yeah, when I looked at the street view of google maps of where the station is going to be I thought wouldn't it be great if there was more housing here
Looks good!
Love the design
Good luck Ireland hope it's successful as crossrail here in 🇬🇧
Would call crossrail a success so confidently. It was overdue by.. yeah 4 years. But nonetheless we need people to stop using cars and these projects are vital
@@PootisHasBeenEngaged It does feel like a Carbon Copy of Crossrail. Even the integration of departures in the platform screen doors, the same style ticket gate-line and overall station aesthetic of white bright and airy stations just feels a bit too big for the Irish Capital.
@@dredits6658 screen doors are a safety feature more than ‘hey look theyre doing it lets copy’. Presumably to stop people trying to push each other infront of the trains, or falling down the gap while the train departs. Removes the need to pay a guard seemingly.
Great news! It looks very nice metro system
I just recently commuted on the London Tube when I was on my holidays in the UK and I found it very efficient to get about. So I do believe Dublin would strongly benefit from an underground metro system, especially if the trains are automated. It’s actually been a childhood dream of mine for our city to have a metro. There are areas in Dublin that currently do not have a rail link to the city centre like Swords, Ballymun, Glasnevin and Dublin Airport. Especially the airport. The government should just get a move on and build it. We’ve waited far too long for a metro. It’s just ridiculous. 🙄
But I do think they should extend the line beyond Charlemont and connect up the southwestern suburbs of Rathmines, Harold’s Cross, Terenure and Rathfarnham. Those areas urgently need a rail link too. 🚆
Edit: MetroLink should have multiple lines like every other metro system in the world. 🚇
They should fork the line south of Charlemont, going to both southwest Dublin and to Sandyford via UCD.
I hope they don't let all the expertise and equipment used for this die once it's built, and that they have further extensions and lines ready for construction by the time it's complete.
@@jamesxenophon9505 There’s already a LUAS to Sandyford. But yes to UCD would be great too.
@@stephenmurphy2212 The Luas to Sandyford is already running out of capacity, which is why the original idea was to upgrade it to metro. By the time Cherrywood is built it'll be a Kafkaesque nightmare. There needs to be another route to Sandyford to take pressure off of it.
@@jamesxenophon9505 Better idea: the metro line could run underground, interchange at the Sandyford LUAS stop and go straight on to UCD.
@@jamesxenophon9505 the branches in the line may not be great for capacity and frequency as services in the suburbs would be halted between both lines. UCD is also close to the southern rail line to Bray. And sandyford is already served by Luas making it unlikely unfortunately
Finished in 2058 with a budget 3 times bigger than originally proposed.
Congratulations, Dublin!
I'll come to Dublin more often when this is built.
Gooood video
Should have built the interconnector
I will believe it when I see it. I am not holding my breath.
I'll believe it'll be built when I get the fine for not buying a ticket on it. Truth be told I'm pretty sure I'll be buried under Glasnevin before a train is.
If there's any space there left
The funny thing is you’d more than likely be completely right.
looks cool
Wont happen ever
@@woohoohaha7607 My wife is literally working on this project. As in, the technical engineering detail. There’s a serious amount of work inconvenience to central areas with this project. It takes a lot to plan and execute such a project.
@@LeMerch I really hope your not lying, I have a hard time believing that it won't just get delayed again and again for years until they cancel it
1 year later, just hearing about this now
The fact that this project still hasn't finished is scandalous. If you don't have the money for such a project, then simply don't even start to think about it.
The train in that image looks very familiar to this Sydneysider.
Hopefully when its done the tracks wont be always full of rubbish like they are in on the dart especially in Connolly, howth and a few other stations.
Ireland is finally getting metro system, cool.
May the road always rise up to meet you …
If this project is going ahead, I would say a few bob (a bit of money) would be made from the possible commuters using this transport option
hopefully our great great grandchildren get to experience its construction
I'm from germany. I have no idea why this got recommended to me. Nor do i know why i watched it. But I did. LOL
I seriously hope this doesn’t get delayed further.
I hope it will come I hope it would not end up like the dart Underground like nothing even happened
Why is all the money being spent on making the stations look imposing and having a public plaza overhead? That’s such an extra cost and a loss of revenue if they have an empty plaza in the middle of the city over a major transport hub. Around and above all of these stations should be high rise office and resi. This extra revenue stream could be used to expand with more lines in the future. Seriously we need Michael O’Leary in charge of this and he’ll do it at 1/4 the cost and it’ll be profitable
Very good Ireland! please build ones without parking tho but this is very good
Why would you say this. The idea is to prevent cars entering a city. Not cater for just the immediate populous surrounding a station!!
Transit oriented development is much more effective at keeping cars out of the city
That guy coming in at 2:03 is full of himself.
lmao
It's nothing compared to a lycra clad cyclist...
... the thumbnail reminds me of the concept art for the Suburban Rail Loop in Melbourne
I hope you know that a city and a county called Cork exists. We don't even have luas, no electric buses. Bus service isn't punctual.
For real. If cork was in Germany there'd be at the bare minimum 2 tram lines
Well good and bad news.
Good: Cork is getting a Luas. It'll be 17km in length with the preferred route due to be decided by the end of this year.
Bad: probably won't see it build for another 5-10 years.
Good: It's also getting 75km of dedicated bus lanes which might help with the punctuality a bit.
Bad: No electric busses for Cork, at least until the next batch are ordered.
They could run a rail link from Raheany to Broombridge up through Coolock, Santry, Ballymun and Finglas and a branch from Ballymun to Airport and on to Swords with no need for a underground.
I notice the complete absence of deadlines and dates in this video. It is a project recycled from at least 15 years ago, that has been shelved, then revived in a cheaper form, and now the Department of Transport produced this piece of fiction just to say the project is not dead yet.
You would think that a city with such a difficulty to build would opt for something more realistic rather than cosmetic gadgets such as trains without drivers and platform screen doors. I worked in a metro myself. Those system make the project considerably more expensive and delay what is an already long timeline.
Dublin is a national capital. It doesn't feel like that from the public transport network, which is slow, badly planned for connections, expensive, outdated in every way. Heavy rail rapid transit is long overdue in the city center. The two parties that govern the country today governed it for its entire existence, chose to never address those issues and keep promising without delivering
Might be ready 200 years after London got theirs. Metrolink makes London Crossrail planning, feasibility, design and build look super quick
More chance of Ireland putting a man on the moon than seeing this built!
In my lifetime I've watched the DART built then never expanded, leaving miles of track around Dublin still with diesel trains?
Then along came LUAS, a tram system using tracks that should have been used for the DART. Insread two tram sysytems (with two depots and no link between them - only in Ireland) are built and never expanded.
And now this stand-alone system?
No plan - no forward thinking - just another new scheme
Luas is painfully slow, and there is no free or cheap transfer between it and the buses meaning you still need old bus lines running alongside it rather than it being the backbone of a transport system. It was another ill conceived project.
Surely expanding DART would have been a better idea and that could even substitute this project. No use for three different brands of rail transport, conceded to three different companies, with three different ticketing systems
Just build the bloody thing!
Maybe at a stop at heuston too, way more useful
Love the use of passenger/train safety barriers on the station platforms. If only we have these in the American metro stations to prevent waiting passengers from being pushed into the path of a train but they are considered prohibitively expensive
I don't even see how it would be that expensive. Frankly they could build the darn things out of wood and drywall, and the amount of money it would save taxpayers from less murder investigations would far surpass the expense.
@@michaelstratton5223 they are ridiculously expensive, you have no idea. Those glass doors are heavy, and in the systems I saw, they take two engines of 1hp in each side to move it. Imagine a train of six cards, with four doors in each side. Combining both platforms you will have 96 of such engines. Comparing to stations in the same system without such, they consume six times more electricity, which is a very critical issue in Ireland. They are also demand expensive, proprietary systems to perfectly synchronize the trains to the doors, and testing and calibrating those delay the inauguration of the station by a few months. They require maintenance, they add another point of failure to the system, they make boarding slower, they might eliminate situations where a psychopath pushes someone on the rails but those are very rare already (there must be a dozen of such worldwide per year) and they create a few accidents on their own by smashing onto people who are boarding. The materials you suggested were never used, probably because for safety and comfort reasons it is important that those doors are transparent, and also they are flimsy and fragile as hell. In St Petersburg they tried a few doors made of iron, but those were considered a failure for obvious reasons.
They are employed because 1: they look cool, people will love it and vote for the mayor who made a train station that looks like coming from the jetsons, and 2: they are necessary to eliminate train drivers who might strike, even if they are more expensive than paying a driver.
@@michaelstratton5223 Drywall and wood is flimsy for it's intended use in subway stations and for good reason. They would catch fire due to a wide number of reasons and a group of drunk rowdeys can easily snap such wall barriers. Fire regulations are extra strict for underground station construction due to a number of deadly subway fires where wood was present. My city transit authority was looking at installing these barriers for all their stations at the cheapest bid they received was 2.5 million dollars plus the much larger cost of shutting down one train line for a week. Putting in train barrier is as expensive as installing a pair of elevators or escalators.
@@ph11p3540 My carpentry suggestion was more or less a subtle exaggeration. But I appreciate your dedicated response. My main point was that building these barriers would be cheaper in the long run than spending money on all these subway pushing investigations (which also tend to shut down subway routes for a bit, causing lost fare). I can't give the precise amount of what an NYC subway murder investigation costs, because I'm not Allen from The Other Guys, but I'd imagine it's not cheap, and it's also a recurring thing that keeps happening, whereas that 2.5 mil is once. So the barriers may end up actually being the cheaper option than the status quo in about 5 or 10 years after being built.
@@michaelstratton5223 You also have to have trains designed to automatically stop lining up with the doors. It's not just slapping up a few windows and doors.
Yay! Plenty more brown envelopes for the lads! Can't wait!
I'm surprised, the Metrolink logo looks exactly like the one on the bilevel train for commuters in Los Angeles.
Yeah go for it.
They could make the inside more inspiring
Every city in Europe with an underground metro builds a line from its airports to its main train station but Dublin metro will not go to the busy hub station Connolly with land to its east side to build an underground station but plans to build at the tiny tara st station which means demolishing badly need housing close to this tiny station why ?
I assume the railway will be built as 1,435mm gauge, as the Luas trams were, rather than Irish rail's 1,600mm
I think I heard it might be Irish gauge.
Fascinating, except that it gave so much detail as far as Tara Street and then it ... ended. What is proposed at Charlemont? Is there any chance of the metro taking over the Green Line LUAS, or at least that part of it that used to be a railway? Don't these trams get very overcrowded as you near the city centre? Or will there just be an awkward split-level interchange? Might as well board the tram in the city and get a seat.
The original plan was for this to link to the old railway line being used by the Luas, but a bunch of NIMBYs in Ranelagh kicked up a fuss about loss of access to a local road and so it was scrapped. So it is now stopping at Charlemont, and it has been suggested that it could be extended either south west to Terenure etc. or to UCD via Donnybrook.
I’d suggest going to the old Dublin and Blessington Tramway route. And have another MetroLink line from Tallaght to Booterstown.
They started talking about in 2005….2005 yes you heard that.
I've heard this one before
Hope it won't take too long to be operational
It will not happen
I don't think metro link is necessary if they want to connect swords and the airport. Extend the DART lines instead and build a branch line to the airport. This in turn might actually be achievable
Make Mertro Link to Bray or Shankill al least...Don't forget the South please 😬
Did you forget the DART?
Bray has the DART, which is basically a metro. It also has been chosen for a luas line extension in the 2030s.
Metro South which I'm guessing if this goes ahead will be at least 5 to 6 years later than this line, should service south west Dublin via Harold's Cross.
This is 100& different to what I thought it was.
In Melbourne Australia there is supposed to be a New Project coming in around 2040 - 2050 called Suburban Rail Loop and the front of the Train looks so Similar I thought it was something to do with it...
its a green sydney metro
That's a long time to wait for a train loop!
@@ALEXANDER-mx6dk Yeah, it's a massive loop connecting all of the Metro routes around Melbourne. I believe one of the Stages is already in works but it will still take a bit yet.
We have quite a few projects coming soon actually! We recently got a New Train fleet in Melbourne. Not sure if the Train has the same name or if it's just called this but its the New High Capacity Metro Train ( HCMT for short ). Anyway, 2025 is the completion apparently so we have a Metro Tunnel project coming that takes two different services and connects them under a tunnel to the other side of the city without taking them through the CBD so kinda cool.
We also have a Melbourne Airport Rail-Link coming around 2030 which should be great also! Connecting passengers from the Airport to the CBD!
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I won't keep rambling on then but going back to your comment. Yeah it's a Bg wait but it's like massive and I think there is quite a bit of planning left unfortunately 👍🏼
Sydney Metro sets, but in green!
So you are telling me that it is still going to be a pain to get to the airport because it doesnt connect to Heuston Station.
None of the stations shown have ticket barriers, will leap card not be used on the first Metro line, or is this just a lack of attention to detail?
There will be no ticket barriers. It will use the "honour system" like the Luas where you just get on with or without a ticket and inspectors periodically come around.
There is a country outside Dublin as well. I don't know if the rest of the country doesn't pay taxes or what
No underground for the connolly busaras transport hub but an underground station planned fot tara st a tiny overcrowded station which mean nearby appartment blocks have to be demolished this does not make any sense
I kind of agree. It's not even that easy to get to Heuston or Connolly from this line. They forgot a cardinal rule of a rapid transit system - link all the existing hubs.
Looks nice but when will this be done. The next 30 to 40 years?
8-10 more like.
This is excellent, the people are absolutely delighted with this.
That sounds like airlink
Why are the platforms on the side? Wouldn't a island platform in the middle of the tracks save money by using less space, escalators, elevators, etc.?
I got this in my recogmended and thought it was something for california at first lol
Big issue for Dublin it how to integrate Heuston with the Airport and City Centre. My solution would be to bring the line west after Tara Street to Heuston sub-surface with an intermediate stop around Dublin Castle / Christ Church Area. Surfacing after Heuston westbound.
That could work. I also have an idea for another MetroLink line serving the southern areas of Knocklyon, Rathfarnham, Terenure, Goatstown, UCD and Booterstown.
Great project but i would be more confused because theres a lot of transit system named metrolink
As if this will ever happen,When the green luas line was being planned back in the 90s it should have been made into a Metro then.
You gonna pull a DART underground this time too??
Still infinitely better and more than the US will ever have.
Obviously this is a DIFFERENT MetroLink than the one I was thinking about. I was thinking they were going to extend the Perris Line to Temecula...🙃
get 👏 the 👏 damn 👏 thing 👏 built
I believe that more money has been spent planning and promoting this than actually building it, also those trains look really weird, don't order them like that please NTA.
Hopefully this will get the go ahead like the dart expansion to Drogheda and Maynooth
The video is about it having been given the go-ahead.
When does construction begin?
@joshuaW5621 there's work that takes place every few months on each rail line and that's to do with extending the dart to new destinations
@@dillonryan2540 I mean when are they starting construction on the MetroLink?
@joshuaW5621 there's talk of it starting in 2025 and being completed sometime in the 2030s
They do realise that metrolink is the name of the metro system in manchetser right?
There's systems called Metrolink in other countries. California has a train operator called Metrolink, and there are other metrolinks in the US
Manchester does not own the idea of combining "metro" with "link"
Call it the Cuas
I expected this to be about upgrading the disappointing Manchester Metrolink, sad that that's not being given a well needed upgrade
When is the estimated time for this to come out.
Early 2030s. So 2034 at the latest
@@BIoknight000 thanks
Ballymun being connected to the north inner city. There needs to be 24/7 security on this thing for it to work. Horrible areas which attract hoodlums and youths out to cause trouble. It would be better fitted servicing the southside of the city like Rathfarnam, Terenure, portebello etc and going straight to the airport.
Yeah, once again, forget about Cork. We’ve been waiting for the Cork Luas for years and the traffic is only getting worse here, but as usual, Dublin is priority.
Yep cause the government couldn't give 2 s**ts about the rest of the country and I've been to Cork more then Dublin and the traffic is a nightmare especially getting the bus back to where I live in county Waterford
You guys in Cork should make your voices heard. Start petitions and fundraising campaigns to get this funded and built.
The wheels on the bus go round and round all day long.
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