Purchased Orange Fury PP2 yesterday in Dallas, to help answer some questions I see below. The splitter is not in the trunk, the dealer didn't have them either and I was notified that it would ship from Ford when available (most likely when production starts). Rear spoiler being correct or wrong is up in the air, doesn't 100% match the stock PP2 photos, but Ford may have settled on this one for production, will find out when production models show up on lots in future and if different, will request Ford change it out. The dealer in Dallas had two PP2, this one in video is at Gaplin, and there is at least one more that one of the sales guys mentioned he knew about (don't recall which dealership and location)
Richard Jameson did you get the orange flurry pp2 at town east Ford? Could you give us a Review? How's the ride? Handling? No coolers anywhere right? Let us know what you think! Thanks.
Yes I did get it from there. I plan to throw together a review and pics (hopefully by this weekend). I've literally only drove it 100 miles home and haven't had a chance to get it outside in the daytime for some photos. Do plan to get some behind the wheel time later this week so I can provide a better review, other than driving across I-20 at 75 (or more).....
Sounds good, I've been working to get back on the forum sites (last mustang I had was an 11, and sold it a couple years back, so I've not been active on forums in some time, but plan to be).
Richard Jameson ok I have a base 301a GTPP2 on order in Oxford white. I'm in order processing but no vin # yet. I mostly want to know is the ride over bearingly stiff? I'm still searching GT350's and am keep my options open if i find a killer deal on one. Thanks again!
I purchased a 2018 GT350 (Lead Foot Grey) a month ago and front splitter was in the truck. It was installed by the dealership prior to delivering it to me.
@7:59 Did you notice someone already beat on it? It's showing 1.86G Front, 1.79G Left, .82G Right and .68G rear. AND it has a near full tank of gas AND 49.4 miles. Someone else knew what they had. Or it could've been a botched sale.
mmarfan SMP maybe someone was about to buy it and their credit got denied. To me the tires look like they've taken some hard corners already. Definitely look worn a bit.
James Holmes once the engine is up to operating temperature's it's ok to go full throttle. This is good to seat the piston rings. I didn't like how the salesman was revving the shit out of it on a cold start.
Most dealer have no idea what they have other than we have a lot of mustang. When I bought mine I had to find and actually tell the dealer where the car was at.LOL
Thank you for the video! I have watched this video like 10 times. I’m thinking about ordering one but seeing any photos or accurate information on one is very difficult. Appreciate the opportunity to see this unicorn!
Its a beautiful car, and Im sure it will get close or match the SS1LE on a road course. But the cost is a deal killer compared to the Camaro. Optional Recaro seats will bring the car over $53K and that's with no dealer mark up, which many Ford dealer have. The GT also does not have a data recorder option, which it trick in the 1LE.
The one thing I wish my 18 performance pack had that the level 2 has are the wheels. I love the way the poke out just a tiny bit from the fenders. Also the spoke designs makes it easy to clean. The pp level spokes are a effing pain in the a** to clean. If only the level 2 wheels came in black.
If I get a PP2, its going to have to get the Twin Turbo installed like at LebanonFord, I bet the guys at Galpin can do that for a reasonable price. 660-700HP with PP2 is the car to get for 2018, no doubt.
Thank you for making the car the main focus , also showing the options sticker clearly . Great video quality best that I have seen . I have a 15 GT performance pack I am thinking of upgrading and this informative video is great.
After looking at the price, you're better off getting PP2 over level 1. Level 1 is $4000 plus an extra $1000 for Magneride. PP2 is $6500 and comes with everything in level 1, Magneride, super wide tires, and more
Hi jame. Just subbed. I’m looking into getting either a gt350 or a pp2 GT this year. Your thought on the extra money for the gt350? Also considering even looking for a 17’ gt350 which I’ve seen some local that are mid 50’s asking price with low mileage. Thanks! Nick
That's the correct rear spoiler. I believe the front splitter comes with the car and is installed by the dealer, due to possible shipping damage caused by low clearance. The wheels are really nice and look the business- like the FR 500S wheels.
Do you have something showing this is the right spoiler, here is what I have on my PP2 I picked up on Monday, it's different than what Ford has in their brochures and media pics. u.cubeupload.com/infidex/IMG0330.jpg
Very nice car (and stunning color!), Richard! Ford shouldn't be shipping out PP2 cars that are "incomplete" like that. As you mentioned, perhaps Ford is now going with your present spoiler or will change it out when your splitter arrives. No hard evidence, but the pre-prod pics looked like a very small lip spoiler like yours, but that is indeed kind of small and doesn't match the PP2 look to me. I'm sure it'll get straightened out at some point. Enjoy that fine car!
I need to get back on some forums where Ford reps are hanging out to get some dialog going to see who knows final answer to spoiler (did they change it or is it wrong and needs to be fixed, etc......).
Here is a Picture I came across on "MotorTrend" website: www.motortrend.com/news/2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-first-look-review/#2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-tail-light-01 ...Hope that Helps!...God Bless! BTW!...The Wheels that come with the PP2 Package: www.motortrend.com/news/2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-first-look-review/#2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-wheel-01 ...Do look Similar but I think the 2018 versions looks Better!
That's a lot of car for under $50k! These Mustangs have tremendous value for money. Crazy thing is, in 2019 Ford raises the bar even more. I think 0-60 times are now under 4 seconds on a $35k Mustang GT.
Gt350 if you care about resale value and not going to be your daily with only light mods. PP2 GT if you plan on using it frequently and loading it with bolt ons and a blower. Just how I see it. Besides damaging a 5.2 down the road might have a hefty price compared to a 5.0.
Awesome find! Best wheels available on a Mustang in my opinion. Track day tires are worthless if you’re going to daily your car. If you do be prepared to purchase tires annually.
Hey Jake!...That Magnetic Metallic Gray Paint Really Sparkles when the Sun Hits it! Did you notice that at time mark 4:17? For an MSRP of $49,590.00, that's not Bad at All!...for a 2018 Mustang GT with the Performance Package 2 Option!...I was wondering if that Performance Package Level 2 available with the New 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans?...Thanks and God Bless! BTW!...At Time Mark: 9:49 You Said the Order Code is "673" for the Level 2 Performance Package? (PP2)
Thanks, Richard!...Maybe Frank over at Power by the Hour aka PBH ( pbhperformance.com/ ) can help me out with that! I am a Left Leg Below the Knee Amputee, so I'll need that New 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans! I know that PBH offers a 6R80 6sp Auto Trans Conversion Kit with Center Console for the 2011-2014 Shelby GT500 and I also talked to Frank about converting the 6sp manual trans of the 2016-2017 Shelby GT350 to the 6R80 6sp Paddle Shift Auto trans and He told me that is Do-Able! :-) You may be aware that 2019 Shelby GT500 will have a 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans Option, so I am thinking of ordering a 2018 Mustang GT with the optional PP2 Package (Order Code 673) and I'll have it shipped to PBH and have them order a New 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans and let Him do their Magic, on making the Conversion from Manual to 10sp Auto Trans!...Thanks Again and God Bless!
David, that is awesome if he can do that. I'm going to check that site out as I have a friend that also would love this package but didn't know there may be options for converting, so that is awesome. Thanks for sharing this!
thanks for the video . DOES ANYONE know what wheel are? te offset for the front? and if the PP@ uses a SPACER to fir the tires in the front? thanks for the answer!
Im surprised to see this one so early. Someone at Ford once said these would be available this spring. Now the only question is. Is it track focused enough to beat the camaro ss 1le? Can't wait to see.
Thats true. Keep in mind that wasn't even a 2018 model. A match up between this new gt with its performance pack level 2 option, vs. the ss 1le is gonna be real interesting.
I think it was a 2018 Mustang GT, but it wasn't the PP2. We'll just have to wait and see how big of a difference the level 2 makes. Given the price tag and the tires, it better be faster than the Camaro.
Best looking Car ever, Would've did Kona BlueI with the Midnight Blue with Grabber Blue stitching leather Premiu seats too on my PP2 fam !! My dream Car, but I'd save the Cup 2's for the track & did the same size 4S's though
imz T canyons yea, as a daily the tires will be more expensive for sure, they come with 5/32 treadwear and they wear fairly fast, although not as fast as some people imply. I’ve read some people can get 5-10k out of them and some people even more if you baby them.
They look Similar but the ones on the 1999 FR500 were originally 17x8 and the 2000 FR500 had aftermarket 18x9 in front and 18x10.5 in the rear ( www.netcarshow.com/ford/2000-mustang_fr500/1280x960/wallpaper_08.htm ). The Similar looking Wheels that come with the PP2 Optional Package ( www.motortrend.com/news/2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-first-look-review/#2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-wheel-01 ) are Ford Factory Wheels and are Not Aftermarket Wheels. Plus they come Only in 19x10.5 in the front and 19x11 in the rear and currently available from Ford for the 2018 Mustang GT PP2 Package!...Hope this Helps!...God Bless!
305's in the front is what is crazy to me. I have a 2015 GT performance pack and I can only fit 255's up front with the wheels the car comes with until I rub. I'm curious about the offset of these wheels.
I thought the angle of the video made the wheels in the front look like they were sticking out of the wheel wells. I am also concerned about what the same size tires look like on a narrow wheel even if it is only a 1/2”. I think it is great value but I am not sure it won’t be too harsh on the street. I ordered the exact same car as the video but with PP1 and I am from Ontario. My Dealer told me PP2 is not coming to Canada? Seeing my Mustang is only going to be a pleasure driving car I am certain I’ll be happy with the PP1.
I put 275's up front and they rubbed before full lock, plus Ford, American Muscle, and CJ all said it would rub and it did, which sucks because the performance pack rims are some of the best stock rims ford has put on the mustang in my opinion.
Just find a bunch of them and cross shop the prices and let me know you are shopping prices and they will want your business and reduce the price hopefully!
Does anyone know if the wheel can be ordered separately if you already own a Mustang? I have a 2018 Mustang PP1, but I really like the wheels on the PP2.
Jake Tiesler exactly. Waaaaaaay too many used options for 50k. Low mileage shelby 350 and 500, hellcats, 2015 z/28. Less than 2 years old. Definitely not knocking this car but for 50k the value isn't there vs the used market.
You can Order the Recaros, they are optional and the 6-piston Brembos are standard on the PP1 and PP2 Packages! It could be that Ford felt that the Rear Brake are Good enough in combo with the Large Brembos up front or it could be a money problem in terms of making the PP2 package too expensive overall!...God Bless!
50k and it dosent even come with recaros! Thats hella. Not to metion those cup2's wear out super quick and have no grip in the rain. Fail. I like that you went out to look at the car for the viewers tho. Apprecite it!
Cup 2's are the tire of choice for most of the faster track/super cars these days. But yeah $50k seems a bit steep for me. The SS 1LE is $44k, and seems comparable.
+Adam S (Dolby109) yea don't get me wrong, the cup 2s are great but they are just not good for a daily usage on the street. If your 100% gonna track the car as soon as you break it in then do it.
I just hope it at least ties the camaro ss 1LE. I loved everything about the 2018 camaro ss 1LE except for the horrible visibility. People that deny that blind spots in that car are in fuckin denial. My 2012 mustang gt has great visibility. You have to upgrade to a 2ss in order to get the blind spot detection on the side mirrors. That is 4k for just blind spot detection (since that is the only 2ss feature I care about). The 1LE murdered the 2018 Mustang gt at willow. Looking forward for 2018 camaro ss 1LE vs 2018 mustang gt pp2 in order to make my final decision.
joe blow oh wow. You sure it is the 2018? I think it will be the 2019 because the 2018 I just test drove had 6 speed manual trans. Man, I don’t think the mustang gt pp2 can match the 1LE on the track. Now that they are adding 7 speed manual trans, it won’t stand a chance. I just really hate the fuckin visibility on the SS. And if you want the blind spot detection, you have to upgrade from a 1SS to a 2SS and that is a 4K option. If you want pp2, I believe it is the same, you have to upgrade to a more expensive (2k) interior with ford as well. I met with a dealer and there was noway around upgrading to a 2k interior package in order to be able to purchase magnetic ride suspension. What the fuck is going on? Lol. What I like about the mustang gt is the visibility and major hp potential it has with a super charger. I think the latest whipple supercharger stage 3 gets over 700hp to the wheels out of he 2018 mustang gt. That is 900 crank. Stupid fuckin hp numbers. Chevy can not come close to that. And mustang gt can’t come close to the performance Chevy delivers for the money. Shit, the fuckin current 1LE 6 speed manual beats the bmw m2 and m4 on the track.
Joe Momma , I owned a SS1LE and did not use it to go buy grocery's. I got use to it and viability did not bother me at all. I drove the car on mountain passes, did a couple track days and 2 auto x.
Salesman should not be reving a cold engine, especially one that uses direct injection "only" below 4200 rpm. Port injection mixes from 4200 to 5600 rpm, then all port injrction above 5600 rpm.
My dealer didn't have the splitter, said they'd get it from Ford when available and then do the installation. No firm date, best guess is closer to production dates. The dealership I got my PP2 from in Dallas had two, Orange Fury I bought and a Black one.
LeeLeeLee, do you have something to show this is correct? It doesn't match the press release photos. This is what is on the car. u.cubeupload.com/infidex/IMG0330.jpg
The one I purchased was at Town East Ford in Dallas, they have a black one there as well. The one in this video has the details at top, it's at Gaplin Ford in South Cali. I've heard rumor of a fourth but have yet to see anything on the web about it, someone at Town East mentioned one other dealer that may have one but don't recall the name of it.
The thing is. It is never just a piece or two. Look at the history of mustangs. In 12 and 13 the hi po roadrunner boss was just a gt with another manifold? Not even close. . Its an entire different beast. The ecu had dual path and a track key option. A forged rotating assembly unique chassis tuning the list goes on. So just like the boss. I assure you there are prolly 50 different things from a pp2 to a pp1. . Its not just wheels and a wing
That is exactly what I said. Braking is what kills the mustang. The camero is faster partially because it just brakes much better having the 4 piston brembos on the back.
Too bad, mustangs flood the market. In 6 months every 20 year old will have one. In 2 years all the high school kids will own one. Go to parking lots every 5 stalls you will see one.
The original performance pack runs a 275/40r19x9.5 in the rear and 255/40r19x9 in the front. Those tires have 110mm of tire in the rear and 102mm of tire in the front. Ford makes no sense with this new tire setup as it will cause way to much fender room. A 305/30r19x11 rear and 10.5 front is 91.5mm of tire respectively. That’s almost a whole additional inch of room in the fender now. I just don’t understand the logic, why not run a 305/35 rear and a 295-285/35 front to keep the overall circumference similar? The tire sizes I named are common in many brands. Do yourselves a favor folks and don’t waste your money, much better aftermarket options out there... also the fronts stick out way to much compared to the rear, looks awful.
I was thinking all of the same stuff.. 3.73's are already crazy short on the PP1 tires.. This thing will redline at 10 MPH in first gear.. Not really, but you get the idea... That's the last thing we needed, shorter tire and more fender gap!
Purchased Orange Fury PP2 yesterday in Dallas, to help answer some questions I see below. The splitter is not in the trunk, the dealer didn't have them either and I was notified that it would ship from Ford when available (most likely when production starts). Rear spoiler being correct or wrong is up in the air, doesn't 100% match the stock PP2 photos, but Ford may have settled on this one for production, will find out when production models show up on lots in future and if different, will request Ford change it out. The dealer in Dallas had two PP2, this one in video is at Gaplin, and there is at least one more that one of the sales guys mentioned he knew about (don't recall which dealership and location)
Richard Jameson did you get the orange flurry pp2 at town east Ford? Could you give us a Review? How's the ride? Handling? No coolers anywhere right? Let us know what you think! Thanks.
Yes I did get it from there. I plan to throw together a review and pics (hopefully by this weekend). I've literally only drove it 100 miles home and haven't had a chance to get it outside in the daytime for some photos. Do plan to get some behind the wheel time later this week so I can provide a better review, other than driving across I-20 at 75 (or more).....
Richard Jameson i just subscribed to you. If you're on the M6g forum then I can't wait to read the review!
Sounds good, I've been working to get back on the forum sites (last mustang I had was an 11, and sold it a couple years back, so I've not been active on forums in some time, but plan to be).
Richard Jameson ok I have a base 301a GTPP2 on order in Oxford white. I'm in order processing but no vin # yet. I mostly want to know is the ride over bearingly stiff? I'm still searching GT350's and am keep my options open if i find a killer deal on one. Thanks again!
prob nicest factory mustang wheels i have seen beside gt350r an cobra terminator stock factory wheels
Those wheels do look perfect! All Mustangs should look like that. The fitment is great, just like my PP wheels with 20 & 25mm spacers.
I purchased a 2018 GT350 (Lead Foot Grey) a month ago and front splitter was in the truck. It was installed by the dealership prior to delivering it to me.
@7:59 Did you notice someone already beat on it? It's showing 1.86G Front, 1.79G Left, .82G Right and .68G rear. AND it has a near full tank of gas AND 49.4 miles. Someone else knew what they had. Or it could've been a botched sale.
Great find, I didn't even notice this
mmarfan SMP maybe someone was about to buy it and their credit got denied. To me the tires look like they've taken some hard corners already. Definitely look worn a bit.
James Holmes once the engine is up to operating temperature's it's ok to go full throttle. This is good to seat the piston rings. I didn't like how the salesman was revving the shit out of it on a cold start.
Most dealer have no idea what they have other than we have a lot of mustang.
When I bought mine I had to find and actually tell the dealer where the car was at.LOL
that exhaust sounds sooo good
50 grand and no recaros? You can get a 1le for 38k now.
As an SS 1le owner its funny to see how they tried to match the wheels and even the price of the package.
Love the flat Grey on the beginning.
Look up the fr500 wheels and you'll notice that the ss 1le copied mustang style wheels that have been around for over ten years.
Matthew Marin nobody invented the wheel. That style hasn’t been on the new body.
Yes I love the 10 speed automatic previously I had a six speed 2017 Roush Mustang only kept it less than a year didn’t like shifting gears anymore
Thank you for the video! I have watched this video like 10 times. I’m thinking about ordering one but seeing any photos or accurate information on one is very difficult. Appreciate the opportunity to see this unicorn!
Its a beautiful car, and Im sure it will get close or match the SS1LE on a road course. But the cost is a deal killer compared to the Camaro. Optional Recaro seats will bring the car over $53K and that's with no dealer mark up, which many Ford dealer have. The GT also does not have a data recorder option, which it trick in the 1LE.
The one thing I wish my 18 performance pack had that the level 2 has are the wheels. I love the way the poke out just a tiny bit from the fenders. Also the spoke designs makes it easy to clean. The pp level spokes are a effing pain in the a** to clean. If only the level 2 wheels came in black.
If I get a PP2, its going to have to get the Twin Turbo installed like at LebanonFord, I bet the guys at Galpin can do that for a reasonable price. 660-700HP with PP2 is the car to get for 2018, no doubt.
Thank you for making the car the main focus , also showing the options sticker clearly . Great video quality best that I have seen . I have a 15 GT performance pack I am thinking of upgrading and this informative video is great.
Let me know if you switch, I'd like to hear feedback!
How would these rims look with a Shadow Black or Silver mustang?
Wish they'd offer those sexy wheels on a regular GT as an option.
It has the v6 "blade style" spoiler
Needs to be lowerd a lil bit I’ll definitely put the magna ride equipped springs on that
After looking at the price, you're better off getting PP2 over level 1. Level 1 is $4000 plus an extra $1000 for Magneride. PP2 is $6500 and comes with everything in level 1, Magneride, super wide tires, and more
iMiguelAOG it's also close to a regular gt350 price, tough choice lol
Exploring With Jesse Used GT 350 price, although this GT PP2 would have sport cup 2 tires instead of the pilot sports of the 350
I was able to order my GT PP2 for 44k. So a better value than Gt350 for 60k in my
Opinion
JiggleBilly62286 True but I was comparing it to the price of a used GT 350
Hi jame. Just subbed. I’m looking into getting either a gt350 or a pp2 GT this year. Your thought on the extra money for the gt350? Also considering even looking for a 17’ gt350 which I’ve seen some local that are mid 50’s asking price with low mileage. Thanks!
Nick
I love the GT PP2 but in two years it wont be worth much, the GT350 will hold its value a bit more
Damn Jake how the hell did you find this car!!? I'm in love with those wheels...some of the best factory wheels ever!
That's the correct rear spoiler. I believe the front splitter comes with the car and is installed by the dealer, due to possible shipping damage caused by low clearance. The wheels are really nice and look the business- like the FR 500S wheels.
Do you have something showing this is the right spoiler, here is what I have on my PP2 I picked up on Monday, it's different than what Ford has in their brochures and media pics. u.cubeupload.com/infidex/IMG0330.jpg
Very nice car (and stunning color!), Richard! Ford shouldn't be shipping out PP2 cars that are "incomplete" like that. As you mentioned, perhaps Ford is now going with your present spoiler or will change it out when your splitter arrives. No hard evidence, but the pre-prod pics looked like a very small lip spoiler like yours, but that is indeed kind of small and doesn't match the PP2 look to me. I'm sure it'll get straightened out at some point. Enjoy that fine car!
I need to get back on some forums where Ford reps are hanging out to get some dialog going to see who knows final answer to spoiler (did they change it or is it wrong and needs to be fixed, etc......).
Here is a Picture I came across on "MotorTrend" website: www.motortrend.com/news/2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-first-look-review/#2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-tail-light-01 ...Hope that Helps!...God Bless!
BTW!...The Wheels that come with the PP2 Package: www.motortrend.com/news/2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-first-look-review/#2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-wheel-01 ...Do look Similar but I think the 2018 versions looks Better!
David J. Smith yes David the front spoiler and rear wing are correct and is exactly what came with my 18 GT PP2 PREMIE 6spd.
I just bought a gt350 over the weekend and the splitter was indeed inside the trunk.
epsilon when I purchased mine it was on the car. The one shown in the video is not the right one. The front foil is wrong too.
That's a lot of car for under $50k! These Mustangs have tremendous value for money. Crazy thing is, in 2019 Ford raises the bar even more. I think 0-60 times are now under 4 seconds on a $35k Mustang GT.
Gt350 if you care about resale value and not going to be your daily with only light mods. PP2 GT if you plan on using it frequently and loading it with bolt ons and a blower. Just how I see it. Besides damaging a 5.2 down the road might have a hefty price compared to a 5.0.
Mustangs depreciate fast as hell, in 2020 that same mustang will be 20k cheaper. Never buy American muscle cars new.
Well, 3 years later these cars are hard to find and the value is Still super high. Sorry your prediction was wrong. Lol
2:35 worth every single penny
rift33srt, indeed
too bad it was probably up for like 115k at Galpin ;_;
Awesome find! Best wheels available on a Mustang in my opinion. Track day tires are worthless if you’re going to daily your car. If you do be prepared to purchase tires annually.
Thanks!
That car is beautiful. Exactly how I would order mine.
Hey Jake!...That Magnetic Metallic Gray Paint Really Sparkles when the Sun Hits it! Did you notice that at time mark 4:17? For an MSRP of $49,590.00, that's not Bad at All!...for a 2018 Mustang GT with the Performance Package 2 Option!...I was wondering if that Performance Package Level 2 available with the New 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans?...Thanks and God Bless!
BTW!...At Time Mark: 9:49 You Said the Order Code is "673" for the Level 2 Performance Package? (PP2)
PP2 only comes with manual, no auto option. PP2 package is listed as "The package is available exclusively with a manual transmission"
Thanks, Richard!...Maybe Frank over at Power by the Hour aka PBH ( pbhperformance.com/ ) can help me out with that! I am a Left Leg Below the Knee Amputee, so I'll need that New 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans!
I know that PBH offers a 6R80 6sp Auto Trans Conversion Kit with Center Console for the 2011-2014 Shelby GT500 and I also talked to Frank about converting the 6sp manual trans of the 2016-2017 Shelby GT350 to the 6R80 6sp Paddle Shift Auto trans and He told me that is Do-Able! :-)
You may be aware that 2019 Shelby GT500 will have a 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans Option, so I am thinking of ordering a 2018 Mustang GT with the optional PP2 Package (Order Code 673) and I'll have it shipped to PBH and have them order a New 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans and let Him do their Magic, on making the Conversion from Manual to 10sp Auto Trans!...Thanks Again and God Bless!
David, that is awesome if he can do that. I'm going to check that site out as I have a friend that also would love this package but didn't know there may be options for converting, so that is awesome. Thanks for sharing this!
I don’t know what is missing on this car but my 2018 performers pack one premium sticker was 53,000!
Anything other than the PP2, Magneride and Active exhaust are options I wouldn't want!
Michael Jordan That’s ok but you don’t know what you missing definitely worth it.
thanks for the video . DOES ANYONE know what wheel are? te offset for the front? and if the PP@ uses a SPACER to fir the tires in the front? thanks for the answer!
I tried to wing it 0:54 and go get a test drive too but they spoilered it and wouldn't let me get one..
Im surprised to see this one so early. Someone at Ford once said these would be available this spring. Now the only question is. Is it track focused enough to beat the camaro ss 1le? Can't wait to see.
V8Supercar1 no it didn’t
How do you know?
Motortrend tested the Camaro 1LE vs Mustang with P1 and the Camaro beat it by a lot, just need to find out how much better this package would had done
Thats true. Keep in mind that wasn't even a 2018 model. A match up between this new gt with its performance pack level 2 option, vs. the ss 1le is gonna be real interesting.
I think it was a 2018 Mustang GT, but it wasn't the PP2. We'll just have to wait and see how big of a difference the level 2 makes.
Given the price tag and the tires, it better be faster than the Camaro.
Best looking Car ever, Would've did Kona BlueI with the Midnight Blue with Grabber Blue stitching leather Premiu seats too on my PP2 fam !! My dream Car, but I'd save the Cup 2's for the track & did the same size 4S's though
Thanks for stopping by!
Would you guys recommend PP2 for daily driving and canyons? And is true that on this set up the tire will wear faster?
imz T canyons yea, as a daily the tires will be more expensive for sure, they come with 5/32 treadwear and they wear fairly fast, although not as fast as some people imply. I’ve read some people can get 5-10k out of them and some people even more if you baby them.
Jake Tiesler thanks!
Slightly used GT350 or new GT with PP2?
I'd have to say GT350 because you could resale it in two years and get most of your money back, not with the GT though
Id rather have the GT PP2 .......... More usable low and mid range power, and much smoother engine for a driver.
Dale Walker Your probably the first. I respect that though.
Best ones are 350r wheels. Just the look on the s550 is dope.
Honestly, I'd consider a GT350 at that point, as the PP2 doesn't come with an option for automatic anyway, and the price is so close.
Those wheels been out. They came on the new edge fr500 cars. You can order those wheels for any mustang from any store
These are different
They look Similar but the ones on the 1999 FR500 were originally 17x8 and the 2000 FR500 had aftermarket 18x9 in front and 18x10.5 in the rear ( www.netcarshow.com/ford/2000-mustang_fr500/1280x960/wallpaper_08.htm ). The Similar looking Wheels that come with the PP2 Optional Package ( www.motortrend.com/news/2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-first-look-review/#2018-ford-mustang-performance-pack-level-2-wheel-01 ) are Ford Factory Wheels and are Not Aftermarket Wheels. Plus they come Only in 19x10.5 in the front and 19x11 in the rear and currently available from Ford for the 2018 Mustang GT PP2 Package!...Hope this Helps!...God Bless!
My front spoiler was on the car when I got it so was the rear spoiler
I thought they hadn’t even released the PP2 cars yet. You can’t even build one yet on fords website.
Yeah, they are pre production and you can buy them if you can find them
Jake Tiesler I got ya. I kind of figured that but wasn’t completely sure.
Insane that the dealer is so massive, that in order to find the car you want, it must call out to you.
At 2:30 is that 350r's wheel slightly scraped?
Those are the same wheel specs as the stock GT350 if I'm not mistaken. So
305's in the front is what is crazy to me. I have a 2015 GT performance pack and I can only fit 255's up front with the wheels the car comes with until I rub. I'm curious about the offset of these wheels.
I thought the angle of the video made the wheels in the front look like they were sticking out of the wheel wells. I am also concerned about what the same size tires look like on a narrow wheel even if it is only a 1/2”. I think it is great value but I am not sure it won’t be too harsh on the street. I ordered the exact same car as the video but with PP1 and I am from Ontario. My Dealer told me PP2 is not coming to Canada? Seeing my Mustang is only going to be a pleasure driving car I am certain I’ll be happy with the PP1.
Really I was able to fit 285’s up front with a 2015 GT performance pack rims
You've got some other issues if you can only fit 255s up front on the factory PP wheels.
I put 275's up front and they rubbed before full lock, plus Ford, American Muscle, and CJ all said it would rub and it did, which sucks because the performance pack rims are some of the best stock rims ford has put on the mustang in my opinion.
Alex Rami what tires did you go with? I run PS4S's from Michelin
Pretty dumb to add luxury content to a car designed to spend more time on a circut track. Ford did that on the final limited edition Focus RS.
What's the pricing situation with the pp2? Is it sticker or nothing or can a dealer discount them? Are they leasable?
It's just like any car, you can negotiate
Jake Tiesler I was hoping so. I know with the GT350 the price is pretty much the price. Looks like I'll be going GT PP2.
Just find a bunch of them and cross shop the prices and let me know you are shopping prices and they will want your business and reduce the price hopefully!
The MSRP for the PP2 is $6,500.00 and the Order Code is "673"!...Hope this Helps!...God Bless!
pp2 is on the ford website just look it up
Old video Mr. Caesar
Does anyone know if the wheel can be ordered separately if you already own a Mustang? I have a 2018 Mustang PP1, but I really like the wheels on the PP2.
Someone on the forums has a set and is selling them, I haven't been able to find them for sale yet from ford.
Have u tried American muscle.com
Jake thank you so much for your reply and for keeping us informed. Do you have the link to the forum?
Cool, thx man! I did look, but what they have is the style, but not the OEM PP2 wheels.
www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95105&highlight=Pp2
I like the look of the PP1 instead. And that's what I ordered!
Where can I get just the wheel and tires for my 16 pp car.
They are hard to find, not sure they are listed yet
Damn no recaros and still no rear brembos? At 50k a slightly used gt350 is still a better option.
Or how about a used 2014 GT500 for $38-42k!!!
Jake Tiesler exactly. Waaaaaaay too many used options for 50k. Low mileage shelby 350 and 500, hellcats, 2015 z/28. Less than 2 years old. Definitely not knocking this car but for 50k the value isn't there vs the used market.
Can you get a slightly used GT350 for $50k?
Brandon Curry i have no idea why ford would make the recaros optional on the pp2
You can Order the Recaros, they are optional and the 6-piston Brembos are standard on the PP1 and PP2 Packages! It could be that Ford felt that the Rear Brake are Good enough in combo with the Large Brembos up front or it could be a money problem in terms of making the PP2 package too expensive overall!...God Bless!
That Gt350r tho😍
I just realize probably the price difference is that mine has a 10 speed automatic
Do you love it?
Score! Is that in Fontana?
Sinister.Shelby thats right off the 405, in Van Nuys.
50k and it dosent even come with recaros! Thats hella. Not to metion those cup2's wear out super quick and have no grip in the rain. Fail. I like that you went out to look at the car for the viewers tho. Apprecite it!
Jose Pulido the treadwear is 180 I think it shows in the video. The industry standard is 100 so it's not that bad actually.
Cup 2's are the tire of choice for most of the faster track/super cars these days. But yeah $50k seems a bit steep for me. The SS 1LE is $44k, and seems comparable.
+Adam S (Dolby109) yea don't get me wrong, the cup 2s are great but they are just not good for a daily usage on the street. If your 100% gonna track the car as soon as you break it in then do it.
The 1LE comes with Recaro seats Std.
Adam S Ad another $3K for the seats ............ Ouch !
I just hope it at least ties the camaro ss 1LE. I loved everything about the 2018 camaro ss 1LE except for the horrible visibility. People that deny that blind spots in that car are in fuckin denial. My 2012 mustang gt has great visibility. You have to upgrade to a 2ss in order to get the blind spot detection on the side mirrors. That is 4k for just blind spot detection (since that is the only 2ss feature I care about). The 1LE murdered the 2018 Mustang gt at willow. Looking forward for 2018 camaro ss 1LE vs 2018 mustang gt pp2 in order to make my final decision.
joe blow oh wow. You sure it is the 2018? I think it will be the 2019 because the 2018 I just test drove had 6 speed manual trans. Man, I don’t think the mustang gt pp2 can match the 1LE on the track. Now that they are adding 7 speed manual trans, it won’t stand a chance. I just really hate the fuckin visibility on the SS. And if you want the blind spot detection, you have to upgrade from a 1SS to a 2SS and that is a 4K option. If you want pp2, I believe it is the same, you have to upgrade to a more expensive (2k) interior with ford as well. I met with a dealer and there was noway around upgrading to a 2k interior package in order to be able to purchase magnetic ride suspension. What the fuck is going on? Lol. What I like about the mustang gt is the visibility and major hp potential it has with a super charger. I think the latest whipple supercharger stage 3 gets over 700hp to the wheels out of he 2018 mustang gt. That is 900 crank. Stupid fuckin hp numbers. Chevy can not come close to that. And mustang gt can’t come close to the performance Chevy delivers for the money. Shit, the fuckin current 1LE 6 speed manual beats the bmw m2 and m4 on the track.
Joe Momma , I owned a SS1LE and did not use it to go buy grocery's. I got use to it and viability did not bother me at all. I drove the car on mountain passes, did a couple track days and 2 auto x.
Dale Walker very nice! I like to look over my shoulder for every turn. The blind spots are pretty bad for me.
$50k to much for that car
A sold car you will not be able to drive, i have asked to sit in one got told no.
Salesman should not be reving a cold engine, especially one that uses direct injection "only" below 4200 rpm. Port injection mixes from 4200 to 5600 rpm, then all port injrction above 5600 rpm.
That’s the correct spoiler the splitter is a dealer add on
So they have to get it from parts department?
My dealer didn't have the splitter, said they'd get it from Ford when available and then do the installation. No firm date, best guess is closer to production dates. The dealership I got my PP2 from in Dallas had two, Orange Fury I bought and a Black one.
LeeLeeLee, do you have something to show this is correct? It doesn't match the press release photos. This is what is on the car. u.cubeupload.com/infidex/IMG0330.jpg
which Dealership had them?
The one I purchased was at Town East Ford in Dallas, they have a black one there as well. The one in this video has the details at top, it's at Gaplin Ford in South Cali. I've heard rumor of a fourth but have yet to see anything on the web about it, someone at Town East mentioned one other dealer that may have one but don't recall the name of it.
Imo I don’t see this worth being 50k. No Brembos in the back nor Recaros for that price y’know? Rather just get a new base PP1 instead.
You can find 2018 base corvettes for less then that.
Yep!
This car negates the need for a Shelby. High performance and no Shelby Tax from the dealer!
Nice kicks.
Woot woot
That's a weird looking chin spoiler on the pp2. Looks afternarket
you can keep the PP2 I'm buying a used GT350 and getting a better car for the same money.
How the fuck does that car turn with 305s in the front
Lol, the GT350 has them also, so apparently pretty well
I was waiting a new video from you...😀
You fast brother!!!
Jake Tiesler yeah because i put notifications on...😀
You smart too!!!
Jake Tiesler Thanks bro!
Shouldn't base be $35k?!
It looks like they stick out a little bit too far in the front to me
I bought ROUSH Stage2 for about 1000 ,more
Sounds REALLY nice B)
Those are some expensive wheels and wing.
The magnetic damping system is a $2500 option and well worth it.
The thing is. It is never just a piece or two. Look at the history of mustangs. In 12 and 13 the hi po roadrunner boss was just a gt with another manifold? Not even close. . Its an entire different beast. The ecu had dual path and a track key option. A forged rotating assembly unique chassis tuning the list goes on. So just like the boss. I assure you there are prolly 50 different things from a pp2 to a pp1. . Its not just wheels and a wing
they didnt add better brakes in the rear...?
Considering the vast majority of the braking is done up front I would say rear brakes are a lower priority.
That is exactly what I said. Braking is what kills the mustang. The camero is faster partially because it just brakes much better having the 4 piston brembos on the back.
John Barnes the Camero is faster partially due to its brakes???
Looks like those tires have had a burnout done on them... 11:33 - ruclips.net/video/Hr6SrkYwqNw/видео.html
Why does Ford not put Brembo's all the way around 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Cost and the fact that rear braking is sufficient with the current brakes
Well, what he said is true, also if you take it into a mechanical standpoint, with weight transfer, the front brakes are far more important.
Too bad, mustangs flood the market. In 6 months every 20 year old will have one. In 2 years all the high school kids will own one. Go to parking lots every 5 stalls you will see one.
Check out the fastest N/A Mustang GT 2018...😀 ruclips.net/video/q94qGJYN8Sk/видео.html
I rather to put $50K towards the GT500.
30 series tires, exactly what a mustang should have. the stang looks hideous with a big sidewall.
The original performance pack runs a 275/40r19x9.5 in the rear and 255/40r19x9 in the front. Those tires have 110mm of tire in the rear and 102mm of tire in the front. Ford makes no sense with this new tire setup as it will cause way to much fender room. A 305/30r19x11 rear and 10.5 front is 91.5mm of tire respectively. That’s almost a whole additional inch of room in the fender now. I just don’t understand the logic, why not run a 305/35 rear and a 295-285/35 front to keep the overall circumference similar? The tire sizes I named are common in many brands. Do yourselves a favor folks and don’t waste your money, much better aftermarket options out there... also the fronts stick out way to much compared to the rear, looks awful.
I was thinking all of the same stuff.. 3.73's are already crazy short on the PP1 tires.. This thing will redline at 10 MPH in first gear.. Not really, but you get the idea... That's the last thing we needed, shorter tire and more fender gap!
Steven Lilly. The gearing in the 2018 MT82 transmission is much taller than the previous models, so a 3.73 isn't that short anymore.
Read the reviews or better drive one before exalting hot gasses into the environment!
That GT needs lowering A.S.A.P!!!
Yeah, i was expecting to see a lower mustang myself!
Could it have shipping blocks in the springs?
Juan. Lega I think it is lower than a standard Performance pack but the 30 mm sidewall makes the gap look bigger and therefore the car taller.
and take the magna ride off? cant lowere with mgna ride
Juan. Lega to get a new roof
That's hot
Poor performance pack wheels are black aluminum
Msrp of 50k thats overpriced nice car and awesome upgrades but its a ford and it will loose alot of value later on
Dumb salesman. Don't rev a cold engine like that.
50k? they're smoking meth.
Barano and going blazing fast too it’s what happens when you have that need for speed.
Wtf is that sound?!
Silly motorized stabilizer