A lot of these lines really bring a lot more depth into Arthas' descent into madness especially the "Now, Mal'Ganis, we'll see who controls this city." gives me chills.
In Reforged, SD and HD have different sets of voicelines. The SD ones are exactly like in the original game, but the HD ones have previously unheard voicelines or voicelines with new sentences at the start or at the end. They most likely cut parts from the recordings when adding them to the game, but kept all the recordings archived and when Reforged entered development, they had a lot of previously unheard lines. It's worth noting that 2 of the Reforged devs are part of the Hive Workshop community, so they know how much cut content means to us, especially when it can be reused for something else
Most of them were changed either because they were redundant or because the map didn't have some of the features (Way Gates). The dialogue script and recordings were done way before the maps were created
There are a few reasons why it could have been removed: - Neither Paladin nor Death Knight heroes have it in melee - Arthas wouldn't have it in the next campaign - Life steal doesn't really fit a Death Knight since it's more of a Dreadlord thing - Arthas already has high regen and Divine Shield, making it pointless - It might not stack with the orbs Arthas can get (didn't check to see)
@@xetanth87 well death knights(or literally Arthas in the next campaign) not having Chaos attack didn't stop them from giving it to him in the final Human mission, lol. I always found it weird. On the other hand, getting Frostmourne wouldn't make any sense story-wise if it didn't give anything. So maybe they should have given it even more, and kept it in the Undead campaign for Arhtas, something unique and exclusive only to him.
@@TabalugaDragon they tried to keep the units as close to their melee counterparts as possible in RoC. Giving a Paladin and some orc units chaos attack was the most they ever did. The expansion added Naga and this concept of keeping it melee-like faded away
@@TabalugaDragon I think it should not give anything, giving him chaos dmg was a mistake. Frostmourne is only there to escalate his doom. There should be no actual benefits, only the delusion of Arthas thinking it does. It works better with his story.
No. These lines are from 1999-2002, but were removed from the game files and readded with Reforged. They only appear in English and have no equivalents in the other localizations
Only these Arthas voicelines and some unit quotes that I will make a video on later, including death quotes for multiple heroes. But no actual campaign transmissions like these
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A lot of these lines really bring a lot more depth into Arthas' descent into madness especially the "Now, Mal'Ganis, we'll see who controls this city." gives me chills.
My thoughts exactly
@@xetanth87 Btw do you plan on using any of these voice lines in a new updated Overgrowth of Lordaeron?
@@grantarmstrong9648 I've actually used most of these in that campaign
@@xetanth87 Really I haven't noticed.
@@grantarmstrong9648 You can see them in my coop series. It was recorded on the latest version of the campaign
I'm surprised they were able to recover so many unused voice lines. It's such a travesty what happened to Reforged
In Reforged, SD and HD have different sets of voicelines. The SD ones are exactly like in the original game, but the HD ones have previously unheard voicelines or voicelines with new sentences at the start or at the end. They most likely cut parts from the recordings when adding them to the game, but kept all the recordings archived and when Reforged entered development, they had a lot of previously unheard lines. It's worth noting that 2 of the Reforged devs are part of the Hive Workshop community, so they know how much cut content means to us, especially when it can be reused for something else
I've always wanted to hear the extra lines. Thanks for sharing! They should have definitely kept some of these.
Most of them were changed either because they were redundant or because the map didn't have some of the features (Way Gates). The dialogue script and recordings were done way before the maps were created
@@xetanth87 They kept in the SC2 custom campaign wc3 missions.
@@FragbiteOeXistenz yeah because I told Synergy about them
@@xetanth87 Bro where to get wc3 1.33?
@@FragbiteOeXistenz us.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/warcraft-iii
Very cool!
Awesome! So cool to hear these long lost lines!
Very cool deleted scenes that were worthy of being used
I've heard some of those before, but not all. Pretty cool!
Supercool, thanks for sharing!
There's actually one more if I remember right, at the end after he kills Mal'Ganis and says "It is finished." he then says "I'm so tired."
That is still in the game files, these were removed and readded
@@xetanth87 Too bad they weren't included in Reforged, a missed opportunity.... 🫤
The Life Steal of Frostmourne supposedly not removed because it makes the game more interesting
pity it's basically Mask of Death(50% life steal), it would be nice if it was more unique and stole 100% for example.
There are a few reasons why it could have been removed:
- Neither Paladin nor Death Knight heroes have it in melee
- Arthas wouldn't have it in the next campaign
- Life steal doesn't really fit a Death Knight since it's more of a Dreadlord thing
- Arthas already has high regen and Divine Shield, making it pointless
- It might not stack with the orbs Arthas can get (didn't check to see)
@@xetanth87 well death knights(or literally Arthas in the next campaign) not having Chaos attack didn't stop them from giving it to him in the final Human mission, lol. I always found it weird. On the other hand, getting Frostmourne wouldn't make any sense story-wise if it didn't give anything. So maybe they should have given it even more, and kept it in the Undead campaign for Arhtas, something unique and exclusive only to him.
@@TabalugaDragon they tried to keep the units as close to their melee counterparts as possible in RoC. Giving a Paladin and some orc units chaos attack was the most they ever did. The expansion added Naga and this concept of keeping it melee-like faded away
@@TabalugaDragon I think it should not give anything, giving him chaos dmg was a mistake. Frostmourne is only there to escalate his doom. There should be no actual benefits, only the delusion of Arthas thinking it does. It works better with his story.
Interesting; I thought they got the same voice actor to record some additional lines for Reforged.
No. These lines are from 1999-2002, but were removed from the game files and readded with Reforged. They only appear in English and have no equivalents in the other localizations
Are there more like this but for the other campaigns? Would be nice to find them, i guess Thrall could have a couple voicelines waiting to be found
Only these Arthas voicelines and some unit quotes that I will make a video on later, including death quotes for multiple heroes. But no actual campaign transmissions like these
That's good
Your so early Xetanth 87