@@khanhgiapham-mi4hg Meh, That slide out feature is just another point of failure, and the way for them to get away from being sued for copyrighted/trademarked design. The actual loading mechanism however is nearly identical. ruclips.net/video/IuhYHUOu6BU/видео.html
I hope this gets Ohio Ordnance some type of federal contract. This is very forward thinking. A crew served weapon system that breaks down in a backpack is insane!!
It’s not a rumor. They have gov contracts. I just got done inspecting their fire alarm system last month. The place had some serious fire power lying around. They were building a new facility while I was there.
they got to deliver field testing batch 6000 I recall. Compeating with SIG, which has edge at the moment, with lighter hmg and less recoil. Concidering that rifles and mmg's went for sig, it has the upper hand in the competition
The fact that you can load that MG with one hand and is lighter in weight than the 240 was all it took to get my heart and now your telling me we can mount and dismount the thing with ease! We need those noooowwww😆
Cool thing you'll never see your enemy in real modern combat, the Soviet PKM is still dominating along with german mg's invest more in protection and equipment every country has effective firearms.
When you need a marksman and have him be able to provide suppressive fire lol. With joking aside, this is incredibly versatile and innovative. This is the progressiveness we need in the firearms industry.
So what is the plan for holding the belt? The feed tray is a really cool feature, but it could have problems with feeding or be awkward to load. Unless "the operator" is supposed to just carry 30rd belts around like Rambo. That's cool too.
Lighter than an M240 Bravo. Yea thats a really low bar to shoot for. Change out some parts to aluminum or carbon fiber. It’s all steel or at least version I messed around with. Otherwise looks like a simplified version of the latter. Will cost 3 times or more to feed it though.
The sound of fuill auto suggests it's maybe half the lead downrange per second. An MG3 sounds like single stroke motorcycle. And that's the downscaled version of an MG 42.
That and the new feed tray. Now yes it seems like a fiddle-y-ass mechanism, but remember that Brandon Herrera seemed to rather enjoy the gun. He’s got a pretty extensive gun background, and if his opinions or insinuations are anything to go by, it might not be as bad as it seems at first glance. These are only my opinions, do let me know yours, or correct me if I’m wrong.
@@igasuguseidasju1699 it's literally a single moving part that is operated manually. mud shouldn't even be able to get in there when it's closed. i suppose we should be getting rid of triggers now, since they're exposed and they move around?
@glukhar_agapov9990 I thought the same thing, surprisingly the MG338 is a little over 6 lbs lighter than this. Still technically like a half pound lighter than the 240 so at least there wasn't false advertising lol
@@daspas2111do we know what the construction of both rifles are? It could be that OO might be trying to accommodate a durability requirement. This is after all being advertised as an M2 and M240B replacement. Doesn’t matter how light it is if it keeps falling apart every 5 seconds.
@@Resistculturaldeclinedoesn't need to be. I think of it as an overwatch weapon system, a belt-fed DMR. Something that can switch from accurate fire to suppressive fire in an overwatch position
To be fair, Anything with greater destructive capabilities of a rifle has serious problems in the jungle. The jungle is just a f*ckin pain in the ass. Particularly when working with machine guns.
@@spearfisherman308 Short answer: No Long answer: the biggest problem with weapons that chamber cartridges bigger than the standard 556, is the weapon system, generally, grows in size and weight. In a jungle environment, this becomes a nuisance VERY quickly, especially when hiking. That mf will get caught in everything and anything. From the employment standpoint,the reason is, with machine guns for example, in order to utilize them to their maximum potential, you need to be able to “sweep” a large area with them, that large area, again to be most effective, needs to be damn near, if not straight up flat. Here in lies the problem; Jungles are anything but flat. This area also needs to be relatively clear of trees, and debris which leads me into my next point about indirect fire weapons such as mortars and grenades launchers. The requirements for those weapon systems is very simple but in a jungle, these weapon systems biggest enemy, is the jungle. The vegetation is so thick that, attempting to utilize indirect fire, will fail unless you really pay attention because branches and trees will catch the round and probably throw it back you. Same can be said about grenades. Again, you have to pay attention. It’s possible, but very difficult and risky. Now per say this particular machine gun, I would definitely want to be able to have some time to play with it, but I more than likely won’t be able to because I’m not cool like that. The decreased weight is definitely attractive. As well as the higher caliber. If anyone has any further questions, you’re free to ask. I’ll answer to the best of my knowledge and abilities.
@@isaaclawton6208 wouldn't a large caliber be good because some parts of Vietnam for example were mountainous and of this came with an option for a shorter barrel would it be a game changer? I would also like to see Ian from forgotten weapons give his take as well👍
You know those "50 cal" ammo cans? Each of those weighs 34 lbs for 100 rounds of 50 BMG. I don't know how much 500 rounds of linked 338 NM weighs, but I bet it's a lot less than 170 lbs. The point of this is to beat the long-range ballistics of 50 BMG, with a gun similar in size and weight to the M240. I checked with a ballistic calcualtor, and 338 NM does beat 50 BMG.
@@timewave02012 You aren't humping '50 cal' ammo cans on patrol. This wouldn't be replacing the GPMGs that are already being fielded by troops due to the weight of the ammo, and the army wouldn't spend the money to replace Ma Deuce since it makes more sense to 'keep the 50' from a logistical standpoint. As for countries other than the US, they wouldn't field it with their troops either for the same reasons, and their mounted guns are usually 20mm so why would they take the 'step down' to .338 NM. Mind you none of this is factoring special payloads that .50 BMG is known for either. I can only see this being adopted as a niche use GPMG for special forces operations.
@@shred1894 I get it that they don't take an M2HB on foot patrol, but the idea is to have the ballistics of 50 BMG with a loadout that isn't completely unreasonable. Thanks to @tha_black_merc, we know it's almost double the 7.62x51 ammo weight, but not nearly as bad as 50 BMG, where you only get ~100 rounds for the weight of 500 7.62; yet the ballistics (bullet drop and wind drift) for 338 NM are slightly _better_ than 50 BMG, and there's room in the bullet for AP and incendiary payloads. Is it worth it? Maybe. I don't think it's as bad of an idea as changing the individual rifle to the Spear in 6.8x51. Increasing range at the expense of weight makes more sense for MGs and DMRs than individual rifles.
After some research it looks like this is a roller delayed blowback system. I can’t quite be certain that the barrel isn’t reciprocating but it certainly looks fixed in place. In that case the weapon this is closest to in operation would be the HK21. What is very interesting is how the bolt design can absorb so much energy in such a short receiver. From the disassembly pictures it looks like there is a complicated buffer system involved. I’m guessing the roller geometry is ridiculously tightly tollerenced and perhaps a two stage spring system is implemented to absorb energy as well. Very cool system. Testing will reveal how long such a system will hold up under constant use. My suspicion is for SF types it won’t be an issue if the guns need to be rebuilt every 5,000 rounds but that would be a dealbreaker for the regular army. I do always appreciate the salesmanship of these videos, helpfully pointing out that unlike the M2 this gun can be rapidly detached from its mounting. Like the only reason guys don’t should carry M2’s all day is they can’t be bothered to dismount it.
Looks to me like it's borrowing from the Ultimax, just modernizing it immensely and making it modular. Which is awesome, especially in this RPD-on-roids from factor.
I think that by "recoil enhanced" they mean that the barrel does recoil a bit, even though U can't tell, just like in the FN 5-7. Actually, it's a pretty long (constant recoil) receiver! Except by M2 standards?
@CripsyWaffles43as an alternative to when you don't want to deal with belts dangling about, I could see the benefit. (imagine having to navigate dense shrubland; I could imagine the belt getting annoying real quick)
I think I speak for many of the American people when I say we want a GPMG of 7.62 NATO or greater punching power (.338NM is an attractive alternative) to replace the 240B. And I think we want someone manufacturing it who isn’t already in control of the Army’s new battle rifle, SAW, and pistols. As a former Cav Scout, I loved the 240B and coaxial C, but, I think it’s time we upgraded our armor-defeating capabilities and modern auxiliary features. That quick-change barrel looks especially impressive. Who else here wants to see this thing go into Army trials? Marine trials? All services? We should test it.
I think you’ll find you speak for maybe 100 american people. I SPEAK FOR MOST AMERICANS when I say; we just want a machine gun! All gun laws are unconstitutional.
@@teddyf9438, AMEN! And if it wasn't for the NRA, Regan, and a VERY sketchy voice vote, we'd be able to buy one of these lovely new belt feds, sadly, due to the Hughes Amendment, we can't. 😢
@@teddyf9438 I 100% agree that all gun laws are unconstitutional. I think the NFA should be repealed. I believe sane, sober, moral, prudent citizens have a necessary right to own and operate automatic weaponry responsibly. That is not mutually exclusive with wanting the Army to hold field trials for a new GPMG. The M240 is getting on in age and infantry and light vehicle armor is getting thicker. We need a harder piercing general purpose machinegun round on the battlefield.
@@teddyf9438 All guns laws are unconstitutional? Then if the background check needed to allow gun-purchasing is in the law, is the background check unconstitutional? That's not sound at all.
@@militustoica And how would you make it so that only the sane, sober, moral, prudent citizens are allowed to these guns? There has to be some legal frame to that, ergo laws, right?
You say that but you don’t need to use the slide function. In the first clip of it loading, they load it with the tray fixed in place like any other belt fed. Could just be an optional mod for using optics that would get in the way otherwise
I know Mr. Pressberg has discussed this concept multiple times. Not to replace the Medium machinegun but to replace the M2. It gets the range you need with higher velocity and lighter rounds and a lighter gun. Meaning guys can easily deploy this in the mountains as opposed to the m2 which is a significant emotional event when dismounted. Also Kiowas and other aircraft can stay in the air longer because they can carry more rounds per pound
338 norma magnum has roughly 4,000 FTLBs of muzzle energy vs .50bmg with 13k. The army has stated that there will be NO replacement for the M2 Browning. The .338 machine guns are strictly there to give socom an extra boost in firepower period.
@@or6060 The weight is probably dependent on what configuration/caliber you're running. I'll be a bit more specific about the lack of a nutsack. They probably dont want the extra weight hanging off the moveable feed tray, could cause it to bind, wear excessively, stress other feed components, etc. It wouldn't just be hanging off the reciever like on an M240
Very interesting, I don’t know why but I immediately got the impression and feeling of German ww2 engineered mags when I first saw this but what I see is amazing American ingenuity and engineering- very cool and innovative
This new weapon system is awesome, revolutionary, and basically guarantees battlefield Overmatch wherever it is employed. One downside I see is the visible and felt recoil in full auto but the power of the round and velocity to reach out to a "1600m effective range" definitely makes up for that. Also it could be easily employed as a Sniper System as well in the same mission. Just a wonderful piece of kit I hope the US Military takes a good look at, especially for Special Operations and even Ranger Battalion level. Keep up the great work!
Looks really cool. I like the emphasis on simplicity and lightweight. Sort of a 338 NM MG42? Before they go too far down the road, the 338 NM cartridge case needs updating to a modern 30° shoulder instead of 41°. This would provide benefits - and, no, would NOT hurt feeding reliability one bit. Any chance of using "constant recoil" tech no minimize recoil to the bare minimum? I see room to extend the rear receiver toward the buttstock to allow for increased bolt carrier travel so it doesn't slam the rear wall but instead is reversed by spring resistance alone.
I think you mean 60°, like on the 6.5 Creedmoor and 300PRC and stuff? But anyway, why should they? The 338NM does what it is supposed to do very well. And if a different shoulder angle would provide so much more benefits, don't you think the guys at Norma or someone else wouldn't have already done it?
@akman1947 I chatted with them about this at SHOT Show 2024 and they didn't want to get into details but implied it used something similar to constant recoil and that recoil mitigation was a design goal.
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That feed tray/loading mechanism looks like a huge improvement over other belt feds.
Have you ever seen the Negev? 😂
This is nothing new
Brings some Breda vibes.
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 the Negev feed tray doesn't slide out like that.
Hope they’ll find a way to add attachment of box round mag on the bottom top feeding
@@khanhgiapham-mi4hg Meh, That slide out feature is just another point of failure, and the way for them to get away from being sued for copyrighted/trademarked design. The actual loading mechanism however is nearly identical. ruclips.net/video/IuhYHUOu6BU/видео.html
I hope this gets Ohio Ordnance some type of federal contract. This is very forward thinking. A crew served weapon system that breaks down in a backpack is insane!!
Rumor is they already have a few contracts on the small scale but SOCOM may have just ordered up to 6,000 of these
It’s not a rumor. They have gov contracts. I just got done inspecting their fire alarm system last month. The place had some serious fire power lying around. They were building a new facility while I was there.
they got to deliver field testing batch 6000 I recall. Compeating with SIG, which has edge at the moment, with lighter hmg and less recoil. Concidering that rifles and mmg's went for sig, it has the upper hand in the competition
Task & Purpose did a video covering this.
@@ironsightsmcgillycudy7753and that would be a Smart Move !! 👍🇦🇺
I love how these companies find simple solutions to common problems. Great video
Yes, very common problem when I’m everyday carrying my M249 is that I can’t fit it in a backpack
That's one slim machine gun! And being .338 makes it even more impressive.
The fact that you can load that MG with one hand and is lighter in weight than the 240 was all it took to get my heart and now your telling me we can mount and dismount the thing with ease! We need those noooowwww😆
For some reason it reminds me of the FG42 ,it looks like a fun gun to have and I like how it can be broken up into smaller pieces.
"will not be available to commercial market at this time" and I took that personally...
Why is there a tent in my pants?
you like boys probably
I don't know, it's a pretty average expensive looking new gun.
I think you dropped a round of 338 in them
'Cause that's where the gay hobo meth-heads camp out.
Savage @@ronl9357
Ohio Ordinance is always coming out with cool stuff
It's profile kinda makes it look like a modernized MG15 with a belt feed conversion.
Very cool.
That guns looks revolutionary. Actually like the gen Z MG42 with how quickly that barrel gets changed and how slim it is
That feed tray system looks pretty cool. SAWs sometimes lose zero after opening and closing the feed tray.
Well now I'm really interested in how this stacks up to the SIG MG338
Never wanted a company to win a DOD contract more than right now.
This makes me wish you guys would create an HCAR in .338 NM.
This looks cooler than the sig mg
That minivan never stood a chance!!!
This thing looks so sleek and light. I'd love to get my hands on one. A guy can dream... sigh.
Get Brandon Herrera on the line...
facts
It looks like a belt fed fully automatic sniper rifle.
I like it
Cool thing you'll never see your enemy in real modern combat, the Soviet PKM is still dominating along with german mg's invest more in protection and equipment every country has effective firearms.
When you need a marksman and have him be able to provide suppressive fire lol. With joking aside, this is incredibly versatile and innovative. This is the progressiveness we need in the firearms industry.
I see yall recorded at Southington gun range
Two, please!
As a fellow Ohioan, I'd appreciate you sending me one to review. Thank you kindly in advance!
You guys got any machinist positions open? Incredible work.
That's a fancy mg42, looking at the feeding system
cool design, its so thin, it makes other MGs look like ancient, bulky technology.
I NEED IT!!! but in black
Awesome, I'll take 10.
Excellent design and very cool looking; reminds me of the MG42
Glorious machine
Incredible
I looked at the name of the channel/company and simply thought "why am I not surprised"
Its like a fancy pkm
Sniping with machine gun, 👍🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Unless there's a semi-auto version available for the public, why advertise this? Just to Blue Ball me?
Imagine how it would have ended if Rambo had this instead of the m60.
This is better than the Sig machine gun.
Now that’s an American gun.
So what is the plan for holding the belt?
The feed tray is a really cool feature, but it could have problems with feeding or be awkward to load.
Unless "the operator" is supposed to just carry 30rd belts around like Rambo. That's cool too.
That cartridge looks way bigger than .338 nanometres.
The Ohio Ordnance Rizzler
This is so bad ass
Soooo ….. we gonna talk about reloading and magazine size for this LMG?
Wish America didn't restrict the second amendment
Now what of having a Box Magazine under it?
Lighter than an M240 Bravo. Yea thats a really low bar to shoot for. Change out some parts to aluminum or carbon fiber. It’s all steel or at least version I messed around with. Otherwise looks like a simplified version of the latter. Will cost 3 times or more to feed it though.
this is the most extra thing ive ever seen
I want one
hell yeah
I'd like to place an order...
Belt fed sniper rifle? Damn shit is broken OP
I have never heard of .338 nm.
So it's lightweight full auto belt fed sniper rifle with silencer, long enough to be used as pike....
Sweet
what vehicle is used?
Is it open bolt?
"Saves operational costs"
*Department of Defense has left the meeting*
Jokes aside, this is a VERY awesome build. Great work at Ohio Ordnance!
"Saves operational costs" that too means overall less money for the contractor and supplier.
"OHIO" Bro I can't 💀
@@mr.waffentrager4400 not funny
@@cr1tikal_arc i know it's sad that ohio is now taken as a joke
Yepp to cheap they can’t bundle in enough black budget misappropriation of funds into the deal
MG34 got a MASSIVE glowup
My immediate thoughts
took the words right out of my mouth, if it ain’t broke why fix it i guess
The sound of fuill auto suggests it's maybe half the lead downrange per second. An MG3 sounds like single stroke motorcycle. And that's the downscaled version of an MG 42.
@vyOP was referring to the MG34, the precursor to the MG42 / MG3. The Reaper has a very MG34-esque silhouette/build.
I was thinking that too
“When engaging targets on the modern battlefield” as they absolutely smoke the Karenmobile
Lol yeah that made me 🤔
Doesn't get more modern than that.
Atleast it ain't 1984 Honda civic
well the next "modern battlefield" is US soil so it's quite fitting.
Why you gotta steal Tactical Tailors clout...
when he lego'd that together out of the backpack is where i was officially impressed.
That and the new feed tray. Now yes it seems like a fiddle-y-ass mechanism, but remember that Brandon Herrera seemed to rather enjoy the gun.
He’s got a pretty extensive gun background, and if his opinions or insinuations are anything to go by, it might not be as bad as it seems at first glance.
These are only my opinions, do let me know yours, or correct me if I’m wrong.
Secondary weapon, for the ones who hip-fire Ma Deuces.
@@pramusetyakanca1552 brandon herrera? lmao.
@@DieselRamcharger Your name tells us all we need to know lol. Your opinion is to be disregarded
@@lima4923 You know less than nothing.
Feed tray alone should be getting people tingling all over ! Thats got to be literally put on all beltfeds the whole design is amazing
Hope the tray doesn't have a lot of fiddly parts that are potential reliability traps. Needs proving.
how good that slider will slide when there is mud,sand, muck in there...
@@igasuguseidasju1699 it's literally a single moving part that is operated manually. mud shouldn't even be able to get in there when it's closed. i suppose we should be getting rid of triggers now, since they're exposed and they move around?
Yeah. That really got our attention as well.
If your weapon is getting dirty, maybe it should jam so you aren't being lazy clean your weapon system learn it oil it sleep next to it
I have a deal for you.
You: successfully lobby the repeal of the NFA.
I: will buy one
*Millions will buy one
billions must buy
Sign me up for this petition, my wallet will get the short end of the stick if that happens though. 😂
This
I was going to leave a comment saying "doesn't matter, can't own one" but OP's is better.
I absolutely love the niche of precise, lightweight, large caliber machine guns. Would love to see how this matches up against the MG338.
I honestly love the OO Reaper over the Mg338, looks hella lighter with it being (or looking at least) a lot simpler and more versatile.
@glukhar_agapov9990 I thought the same thing, surprisingly the MG338 is a little over 6 lbs lighter than this. Still technically like a half pound lighter than the 240 so at least there wasn't false advertising lol
@@brookerodriguez3993 I call bull corn!
@@brookerodriguez3993 that might hurt this bid for ohio, but the design does look simpler than the MG338 at first glance.
@@daspas2111do we know what the construction of both rifles are? It could be that OO might be trying to accommodate a durability requirement. This is after all being advertised as an M2 and M240B replacement. Doesn’t matter how light it is if it keeps falling apart every 5 seconds.
truly an ohio moment
lol
Classic, original comment
can't wait for this to make its way into some videogames, that is an impressive weapon platform for sure.
Imagine if DICE nails this weapon in their current game.
one can only hope!@@rosaria8384
You mean OP, not impressive?
This things is hucking 338 nm too
If a machine gun & a sniper rifle had a child 😂
And not very good at either.
@@Resistculturaldeclinedoesn't need to be. I think of it as an overwatch weapon system, a belt-fed DMR. Something that can switch from accurate fire to suppressive fire in an overwatch position
@@silkyz68 You have no idea what you're talking about.
Yes, 😂. Come on bro 💀
retard@@SN-qd2qd
WE'RE FIGHTING OUR WAY OUTTA OHIO WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
233 likes and no comments? I'll fix that.
hah, it's ohio, no survivors...
@@Truex007second that one for sure…
No
PKM: Finally a worthy opponent. OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!
As a former machine gunner, this is genius. Looks like it would be optimized in many environments. Jungle would be its biggest enemy.
To be fair, Anything with greater destructive capabilities of a rifle has serious problems in the jungle. The jungle is just a f*ckin pain in the ass. Particularly when working with machine guns.
@@isaaclawton6208thank god America loves fighting in a desert then 😂😂
@@isaaclawton6208will this kick the assault rifle concept off it’s thrown in your experience
@@spearfisherman308 Short answer: No
Long answer: the biggest problem with weapons that chamber cartridges bigger than the standard 556, is the weapon system, generally, grows in size and weight. In a jungle environment, this becomes a nuisance VERY quickly, especially when hiking. That mf will get caught in everything and anything. From the employment standpoint,the reason is, with machine guns for example, in order to utilize them to their maximum potential, you need to be able to “sweep” a large area with them, that large area, again to be most effective, needs to be damn near, if not straight up flat. Here in lies the problem; Jungles are anything but flat. This area also needs to be relatively clear of trees, and debris which leads me into my next point about indirect fire weapons such as mortars and grenades launchers. The requirements for those weapon systems is very simple but in a jungle, these weapon systems biggest enemy, is the jungle. The vegetation is so thick that, attempting to utilize indirect fire, will fail unless you really pay attention because branches and trees will catch the round and probably throw it back you. Same can be said about grenades. Again, you have to pay attention. It’s possible, but very difficult and risky.
Now per say this particular machine gun, I would definitely want to be able to have some time to play with it, but I more than likely won’t be able to because I’m not cool like that. The decreased weight is definitely attractive. As well as the higher caliber.
If anyone has any further questions, you’re free to ask. I’ll answer to the best of my knowledge and abilities.
@@isaaclawton6208 wouldn't a large caliber be good because some parts of Vietnam for example were mountainous and of this came with an option for a shorter barrel would it be a game changer? I would also like to see Ian from forgotten weapons give his take as well👍
Imagine having to carry 500rds of 338 lol
How about polymer cased .338
Imagine shooting 500rds of 338 from a gun that weighs less than the 240
You know those "50 cal" ammo cans? Each of those weighs 34 lbs for 100 rounds of 50 BMG. I don't know how much 500 rounds of linked 338 NM weighs, but I bet it's a lot less than 170 lbs. The point of this is to beat the long-range ballistics of 50 BMG, with a gun similar in size and weight to the M240. I checked with a ballistic calcualtor, and 338 NM does beat 50 BMG.
@@timewave02012 You aren't humping '50 cal' ammo cans on patrol. This wouldn't be replacing the GPMGs that are already being fielded by troops due to the weight of the ammo, and the army wouldn't spend the money to replace Ma Deuce since it makes more sense to 'keep the 50' from a logistical standpoint. As for countries other than the US, they wouldn't field it with their troops either for the same reasons, and their mounted guns are usually 20mm so why would they take the 'step down' to .338 NM. Mind you none of this is factoring special payloads that .50 BMG is known for either.
I can only see this being adopted as a niche use GPMG for special forces operations.
@@shred1894 I get it that they don't take an M2HB on foot patrol, but the idea is to have the ballistics of 50 BMG with a loadout that isn't completely unreasonable. Thanks to @tha_black_merc, we know it's almost double the 7.62x51 ammo weight, but not nearly as bad as 50 BMG, where you only get ~100 rounds for the weight of 500 7.62; yet the ballistics (bullet drop and wind drift) for 338 NM are slightly _better_ than 50 BMG, and there's room in the bullet for AP and incendiary payloads. Is it worth it? Maybe. I don't think it's as bad of an idea as changing the individual rifle to the Spear in 6.8x51. Increasing range at the expense of weight makes more sense for MGs and DMRs than individual rifles.
After some research it looks like this is a roller delayed blowback system. I can’t quite be certain that the barrel isn’t reciprocating but it certainly looks fixed in place. In that case the weapon this is closest to in operation would be the HK21. What is very interesting is how the bolt design can absorb so much energy in such a short receiver. From the disassembly pictures it looks like there is a complicated buffer system involved. I’m guessing the roller geometry is ridiculously tightly tollerenced and perhaps a two stage spring system is implemented to absorb energy as well. Very cool system.
Testing will reveal how long such a system will hold up under constant use. My suspicion is for SF types it won’t be an issue if the guns need to be rebuilt every 5,000 rounds but that would be a dealbreaker for the regular army.
I do always appreciate the salesmanship of these videos, helpfully pointing out that unlike the M2 this gun can be rapidly detached from its mounting. Like the only reason guys don’t should carry M2’s all day is they can’t be bothered to dismount it.
Looks to me like it's borrowing from the Ultimax, just modernizing it immensely and making it modular. Which is awesome, especially in this RPD-on-roids from factor.
I think that by "recoil enhanced" they mean that the barrel does recoil a bit, even though U can't tell, just like in the FN 5-7. Actually, it's a pretty long (constant recoil) receiver! Except by M2 standards?
You guys don't conceal carry a m2 fiddy cal?
Smh
I need at least one of these mounted passenger side of my work van when driving on i95 in south Florida😂
The creator of the MG42 looking from Heaven: 😮
I think this is closer to the MG34
*Gazing up from the special section of Super-Mega-Uh-Oh Hell reserved for Nazis
@@Pyreleaf God was a Nazi, you've been bamboozled
@@FelixValentiCh. I thought it looked familiar
The only thing most post-WWII machine guns copy from the MG42 is the feed system, and this finally gets rid of that too.
Bravo Robert! Glad to see it finally in the wild. Can't wait to test it out. Good luck with SOCOM.
This is the only thing I have always wanted my entire life.
You know, I can't help but think this would look pretty cool with a side mounted magazine. Like a modernized FG-42.
I was literally about to write the same thing! Feeling like this is an ultra modernized 42
Especially the grip and trigger silhouette. Seeing that is what got me thinking the same thing
Glad we were all thinking the same thing
@CripsyWaffles43as an alternative to when you don't want to deal with belts dangling about, I could see the benefit. (imagine having to navigate dense shrubland; I could imagine the belt getting annoying real quick)
@@mnxsPlus dirt could get in between links, so a mag variant is good option
Handles the recoil of 338 fairly well. It’d be cool to see this in some more intermediate cartridges too
I think I speak for many of the American people when I say we want a GPMG of 7.62 NATO or greater punching power (.338NM is an attractive alternative) to replace the 240B. And I think we want someone manufacturing it who isn’t already in control of the Army’s new battle rifle, SAW, and pistols.
As a former Cav Scout, I loved the 240B and coaxial C, but, I think it’s time we upgraded our armor-defeating capabilities and modern auxiliary features. That quick-change barrel looks especially impressive.
Who else here wants to see this thing go into Army trials? Marine trials? All services? We should test it.
I think you’ll find you speak for maybe 100 american people. I SPEAK FOR MOST AMERICANS when I say; we just want a machine gun! All gun laws are unconstitutional.
@@teddyf9438, AMEN! And if it wasn't for the NRA, Regan, and a VERY sketchy voice vote, we'd be able to buy one of these lovely new belt feds, sadly, due to the Hughes Amendment, we can't. 😢
@@teddyf9438 I 100% agree that all gun laws are unconstitutional. I think the NFA should be repealed. I believe sane, sober, moral, prudent citizens have a necessary right to own and operate automatic weaponry responsibly.
That is not mutually exclusive with wanting the Army to hold field trials for a new GPMG. The M240 is getting on in age and infantry and light vehicle armor is getting thicker. We need a harder piercing general purpose machinegun round on the battlefield.
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All guns laws are unconstitutional? Then if the background check needed to allow gun-purchasing is in the law, is the background check unconstitutional? That's not sound at all.
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And how would you make it so that only the sane, sober, moral, prudent citizens are allowed to these guns?
There has to be some legal frame to that, ergo laws, right?
Something about this is screaming WW2 german Mg38
Looks like if the Knights LMG, MG 42, and SIG had a baby
and a RPR
Looks like a modern FG42
@@soulweightstudiosno it doesn’t
@@JoeKurr5 look at the pistol grip and trigger guard lol
I saw an FDE MG42 as well.
Honestly the tray mechanism looks awesome
Hope the tray doesn't have a lot of fiddly parts that are potential reliability traps. Needs proving.
Looks like something thats gonna break.
@@RexusOutfittersSomething like the evolys would’ve been great but that would require a big redesign.
You say that but you don’t need to use the slide function. In the first clip of it loading, they load it with the tray fixed in place like any other belt fed. Could just be an optional mod for using optics that would get in the way otherwise
@@AT-xr8qh At any rate, I chatted with them at SHOT Show 2024 about it and they assured me it is robust enough. I was satisfied with their answer.
I know Mr. Pressberg has discussed this concept multiple times. Not to replace the Medium machinegun but to replace the M2. It gets the range you need with higher velocity and lighter rounds and a lighter gun. Meaning guys can easily deploy this in the mountains as opposed to the m2 which is a significant emotional event when dismounted. Also Kiowas and other aircraft can stay in the air longer because they can carry more rounds per pound
Doubtful this will replace the M2 any time soon. If anything, the 240 I would think, especially since this has a 7.62 kit with it.
That's not gonna happen, you'd be better off making a universal GPMG by improving the m240l and then lightening the m2. [
Significant emotional event had me rolling.
338 norma magnum has roughly 4,000 FTLBs of muzzle energy vs .50bmg with 13k. The army has stated that there will be NO replacement for the M2 Browning.
The .338 machine guns are strictly there to give socom an extra boost in firepower period.
Sadly, in their infinite wisdom, the Army got rid of the Kiowa a few years ago. SMH.
Shut up and take my money
ATF always cock blocking
That looks slim and easy to use... Unlike that new Sig mg that looks like a box with a pistol grip lol
At least with the SIG, you can use a drum for ammo lmao have fun being forced to use a belt all the time
Good heavens. Imagine having an effective range that is over a mile and not having to lug around BMG.
Ohio Ordnance Works making competition for the SIG XM250. Whoa 😮
why XM250? isn't that thing a 6.8
@@Flashy47 There was also one in 338 Norma as well if I remember correctly
@@user-oh6gz9er6h yes sig made a 338 version like this one as an m2/m240 replacement
@@user-oh6gz9er6h the MG338 is not the same as the XM250
@@matthiuskoenig3378similar
I am a fan. Literally ceiling appliance after watching this. I need 10. For research purposes? How many minivans can I buy on Facebook marketplace?
why didn't you make a belt box to go with it? seems like such a simple thing that any modern belt fed wouldn't be seen without.
Or something like those 50-round cloth pouches for the M240.
Probably has something to do with the moveable feed tray, these guys wouldn't just overlook a belt bag
@@juanitoarmas736 i think a bottom mounted box would be fine. they also didn't mention the weight which is a pretty important thing for an MMG
@@or6060 The weight is probably dependent on what configuration/caliber you're running. I'll be a bit more specific about the lack of a nutsack. They probably dont want the extra weight hanging off the moveable feed tray, could cause it to bind, wear excessively, stress other feed components, etc. It wouldn't just be hanging off the reciever like on an M240
@@juanitoarmas736 why would the weight of the belt box be on the feed tray? It would just attach to the bottom of the receiver.
How long until it's available to citizens (the ones who pay the salary of those working in government)?
This MG actually looks beautiful, like the MG3 or the PKP.
Man, y'all were really eager for that acronym
Very interesting, I don’t know why but I immediately got the impression and feeling of German ww2 engineered mags when I first saw this but what I see is amazing American ingenuity and engineering- very cool and innovative
Same the profile reminds me of the MG-34, which is a good design.
They copied European designs lmao
This new weapon system is awesome, revolutionary, and basically guarantees battlefield Overmatch wherever it is employed. One downside I see is the visible and felt recoil in full auto but the power of the round and velocity to reach out to a "1600m effective range" definitely makes up for that. Also it could be easily employed as a Sniper System as well in the same mission. Just a wonderful piece of kit I hope the US Military takes a good look at, especially for Special Operations and even Ranger Battalion level. Keep up the great work!
This is the coolest looking machine gun I've seen! Would buy an airsoft replica just to hang on the wall.
Why not be an American and push to repeal the Hughes amendment so we can own the real thing, not a toy for children?
good luck putting that sliding shelf back in when its covered in dirt...
Looks really cool. I like the emphasis on simplicity and lightweight. Sort of a 338 NM MG42? Before they go too far down the road, the 338 NM cartridge case needs updating to a modern 30° shoulder instead of 41°. This would provide benefits - and, no, would NOT hurt feeding reliability one bit.
Any chance of using "constant recoil" tech no minimize recoil to the bare minimum? I see room to extend the rear receiver toward the buttstock to allow for increased bolt carrier travel so it doesn't slam the rear wall but instead is reversed by spring resistance alone.
You’re confusing Lapua Magnum (LM) and Norma Magnum (NM). 338NM already has ultra sharp shoulder angle.
@@azeke8 Please double-check your info. Search for a 338NM cartridge diagram.
I think you mean 60°, like on the 6.5 Creedmoor and 300PRC and stuff? But anyway, why should they? The 338NM does what it is supposed to do very well. And if a different shoulder angle would provide so much more benefits, don't you think the guys at Norma or someone else wouldn't have already done it?
That would be a .338 Norma Improved.
@akman1947 I chatted with them about this at SHOT Show 2024 and they didn't want to get into details but implied it used something similar to constant recoil and that recoil mitigation was a design goal.
This is an outstanding piece of equipment.
That feed system looks awesome and the whole weapon has a clean and simple look to it, Nice work.