For those who disagree about the video, please watch the video till ends first before commenting, because this video isnt just a score getting, but i give all the explanation. If u think i am wrong, u can also share ur opinion.
Correction for most questions : Which is harder? From more researching, that i just found out True Hellevan has faster lava than true failure. True failure have extra lasers and some smaller platform jumps Meanwhile true hellevan have godspeed lava and super hard part at the stick jumping on the last area Most peoples said, "true hellevan is harder" i could say this is correct.
I honestly don't know, you have great points and I partially agree. Imo I feel like true failure is more... RIGGED in some places, but I also feel like true hellavan has harder parkour in general. either way they're both just cursed true buffs. Edit: true failure has more obstacles though so idk lol
I think both maps can be debatable, TF has more obstacles than TH while TH has harder obstacles but if I had to choose which one’s harder I would choose TH. I also noticed that TF usually uses more wide wraparounds while TH uses more long wraparounds instead.
On the beggining and the first tower part until first outside with wall jumps, True Hellevan is harder, at the first outside and the room with roofs, and the tower, True Failure is harder, however at the second outside with thin poles, True Hellevan is way harder. At the ending, both maps are equally hard imo, because on True Failure, there is a long jump + 2 wraps, and a tightrope that gives a final "screw you" to the player. True Hellevan haven't got that long jump, it is just the same wrap as Hard or Hell version. But the trees can be RNG, same with the portal's lasers. in my opinion, True Hellevan is harder because HOW RNG the thin pole outside is.
i think th was just super ahead of its time, i mean some of the best players took over A YEAR to pass it (iirc) enes was extremely dedicated and that was the best part about it, imo tf is harder than th but both of them are hard as shit
true hellevan is literally just true failure except harder, you can tell the small difference between the facilities very quickly. in my opinion true hellevan takes the cake for hardest map ever
I've Still Imagine True Hellevan Is 1000000000000 TIMES HARDER Than True Failure By Every Thin Pole Counted Can Still By The Same Points Flex Said (+10) And To Be Stupidly, Is The Pre-Last Part Can Be Counted +25 Points By Every Thin Pole Jumped By Perfectly Jumps, And 0.11 Studs Pole In Last Part, In True Last Part, Have An Huge Wraparound In 0.65 Stud Path And Lasers In The Snow To Die VERY EASILY AND TREES WITH BE THIN BLOCKS, WITH LASER IN SIGN WITH "H" IN THE FLOOR, I Could Say True Hellevan Is Still Harder Than True Failure
i still say true hellaven is harder. the tower part although for true failure has lasers, the jumps are a lot bigger compared to true hellaven. the end jumps true hellaven is way harder
True Hellevan Is extremely harder than True Failure. However, True Hellevan there's only 1 beat while today, making it extremely harder than True Failure, Already that True Hellevan there's less shortcuts than True Failure. Explaining: The True Hellevan there's extremely thin parts that if you miss a jump where they're found, it's definitely Game Over for you. Especialy at the tower room and outside room. Look at the circles size how they are extremely thin. Look at the poles on outside room. The both end rooms are way harder than True Failure. Especialy at outside room of True Hellevan. Look that there's an aditional obstacle in there, different from True Failure. There's no thin rails with holes under them to you fail. Making that way easier than True Hellevan. You can understand what i mean from True Hellevan looking at 6:41.
I think TH is a bit harder because the tower has much smaller platforms and the sticks r harder. The lasers is TF dont effect the gameplay really because u need to go so fast.
Stay Comparing In True Hellevan And True Failure Platforms, (I Think) You Still Say This: "Not By The Lasers, In Thin Platforms, True Hellevan Have More Thin Platforms "0.08 Studs Every Thin Platform"
i think like 5 points should be added for TH instead of 2 for thin poles because the one where you just onto the really tiny one is insanely hard to land and is rng
I think TH is harder cuz the tiny jump is smaller than TF and the tree at the last part is very far the lava in TH is faster than TF so Enes need to use shortcut at the 2nd roomto pass that if he use the legit, is harder than TF so i will think TH is harder than TF and TF is 49 and TH is 52
i do agree that most of tf is harder than tg, but th end part is just so much harder than tf that your entire run could end because of it, thats why i think it's way harder.
i mean i'm not really into fe2 that much anymore but i'd say the lasers in that one room on the floor on TF dont matter since in TH if you fall there you're basically already guaranteed dead however the lasers do provide pressure
Hellevan is harder because i believe there are more places that have smaller areas. Granted, there are lasers on the ground in the tower, but its much easier to fall down with hellevan.
they are both garbage but TH is harder by a longshot, people really underestimate the thin poles on TH, TF doesn't have that bad of thin poles, they are way easier than they look At the end of the day they are both garbage maps and shouldn't really be talked about that much so yeah let's just move on from them
True Hellevan: 69 True Failure: 48 My Totally Count I think is True. True Hellevan CAN Be 59 But Will Be 69 By Graphics, Music, Longjumps, etc. THEN, you forgot Count 2 Extra Points To Longjumps
How to make an impossible map? Simple, just take the first half of true failure and add the second half of true hellevan and there you go, an insanely RNG map that probably is impossible to beat without a minimum of 100 hours of practice.
I am agree with all of the video except in true faillure some wraparound aren t that hard so more of them maybe but not harder i mean it s bazic for someone who attempt these levels + the lasers in the tower part aren t so mich harder maybe +1 ok but whenever you fall you still dead so falling on lasers is the same ( the +1 is because after pressing some button you must go down and so itvmean ya can t go every where
Each thin pole in True Hellevan should've been +10 but I guess that wouldn't work for the vid Personally, True Hellevan is still the hardest map to ever exist due to that part These maps are garbage though I like the vid idea Maybe do Blue Moon VS Poisonous Chasm or something like that
true hellevan wins on 3rd part, cuz those hard wall jumps there are 3. also that footage is stolen from enersx or something thats his vid i saw it before
TRUE HELLEVAN Is harder THEN true FAilure is so ez for me in Roblox but XenesR beat the Roblox world record he is a Roblox RUclipsr he played murder mystery 2 and Brookhaven
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For those who disagree about the video, please watch the video till ends first before commenting, because this video isnt just a score getting, but i give all the explanation.
If u think i am wrong, u can also share ur opinion.
Correction for most questions :
Which is harder?
From more researching, that i just found out True Hellevan has faster lava than true failure.
True failure have extra lasers and some smaller platform jumps
Meanwhile true hellevan have godspeed lava and super hard part at the stick jumping on the last area
Most peoples said, "true hellevan is harder" i could say this is correct.
3:48 every startup failure and startup karaoke has the long jump but true hellevan doesn't have
True hellevan perviously xenesr use a shortcut not a shotcut at 3:14
@@Brendoss as perviously true hellevan is harder because when there's second ending it's harder than the first ending
2:39 That True Hellevan room is way harder than True Failure Room, Also There's Lasers on the floor and True Failure there's only a hole.
I honestly don't know, you have great points and I partially agree. Imo I feel like true failure is more... RIGGED in some places, but I also feel like true hellavan has harder parkour in general. either way they're both just cursed true buffs.
Edit: true failure has more obstacles though so idk lol
Lol
some parts of TF are harder than TH but TH also has some parts harder than TF
I agree
I think both maps can be debatable, TF has more obstacles than TH while TH has harder obstacles but if I had to choose which one’s harder I would choose TH. I also noticed that TF usually uses more wide wraparounds while TH uses more long wraparounds instead.
the frick, the hell
Finally, a comment with sense (im joking i support everyone’s opinion)
6:41 See The Poles
If we combine these then It would be crazy++
lets wait until a mad guy conbines the two
imo i think true failure is harder because due to laser overload and the literal amount of wrap-a-rounds and long jumps
Hellevan should be harder, its feels very hard for me
On the beggining and the first tower part until first outside with wall jumps, True Hellevan is harder, at the first outside and the room with roofs, and the tower, True Failure is harder, however at the second outside with thin poles, True Hellevan is way harder. At the ending, both maps are equally hard imo, because on True Failure, there is a long jump + 2 wraps, and a tightrope that gives a final "screw you" to the player.
True Hellevan haven't got that long jump, it is just the same wrap as Hard or Hell version. But the trees can be RNG, same with the portal's lasers.
in my opinion, True Hellevan is harder because HOW RNG the thin pole outside is.
I can agree that
Yea you counted only like 2 of the true hellevan 5th room jumps you didn't even count the long jump which is worth 2 points in the 5th room
i think th was just super ahead of its time, i mean some of the best players took over A YEAR to pass it (iirc) enes was extremely dedicated and that was the best part about it, imo tf is harder than th but both of them are hard as shit
Agreed
true hellevan is literally just true failure except harder, you can tell the small difference between the facilities very quickly. in my opinion true hellevan takes the cake for hardest map ever
Part 2: i commented this before playing them and its pretty obvious true failure is a bit harder, but its just a slight revamp.
Gives a one chance for true failure
The Jump Of True Hellevan In Pre-Last Part Is Much Longer Than Than Usual Jump In The True Failure (12.38 Studs)
There is one major Thing these 2 maps have in common...
They are both revamps of:
STARTUP FAILURE LAB (hell version)
But different decorations and details :trol:
And most importantly the gameplay
Hell Ver (All Red)
I've Still Imagine True Hellevan Is 1000000000000 TIMES HARDER Than True Failure By Every Thin Pole Counted Can Still By The Same Points Flex Said (+10) And To Be Stupidly, Is The Pre-Last Part Can Be Counted +25 Points By Every Thin Pole Jumped By Perfectly Jumps, And 0.11 Studs Pole In Last Part, In True Last Part, Have An Huge Wraparound In 0.65 Stud Path And Lasers In The Snow To Die VERY EASILY AND TREES WITH BE THIN BLOCKS, WITH LASER IN SIGN WITH "H" IN THE FLOOR, I Could Say True Hellevan Is Still Harder Than True Failure
No It's True Failure
Bro It's True Hellevan
@@joaobatistagomesdeoliveira9355 weeeeeeeee, Thanks For You Follow My Opinion!
You can compare IP (Ignis Peaks) with SR (Sandswept Ruins) to do something like this comparison
Those 2 maps arent really controversial, so i dont really thinks many people would interested
@@Brendoss Or Like The Real Challenge VS The Deadly Challenge
@@Azure_Gamer444 deadly challenge is obviously a buff of real challenge
@@Brendoss if i were you i'd do that
True hellevan was meant to get a point for each jump in the 5th room cuz each jump very hard not to mention you have to redo 1/4 of the room
Bro Is 11/100 Studs Pole In Last Part = 0.11 Studs Pole
0:48 nice man friend
true hellevan is the hardest. thats why its deleted.
Pre-Last Part Jump Of True Failure Is Much Shorter, The Tower Room (11.6 Studs)
i still say true hellaven is harder. the tower part although for true failure has lasers, the jumps are a lot bigger compared to true hellaven. the end jumps true hellaven is way harder
also if you die to the lasers it doesnt matter cuz you would've died anyways for being to slow than
@Renn Goh ye i meant the thin poles
True Hellevan Is extremely harder than True Failure. However, True Hellevan there's only 1 beat while today, making it extremely harder than True Failure, Already that True Hellevan there's less shortcuts than True Failure.
Explaining:
The True Hellevan there's extremely thin parts that if you miss a jump where they're found, it's definitely Game Over for you. Especialy at the tower room and outside room. Look at the circles size how they are extremely thin. Look at the poles on outside room. The both end rooms are way harder than True Failure. Especialy at outside room of True Hellevan. Look that there's an aditional obstacle in there, different from True Failure. There's no thin rails with holes under them to you fail. Making that way easier than True Hellevan. You can understand what i mean from True Hellevan looking at 6:41.
And the storage room of True Hellevan There's a Extremely Long Jump, making it harder than True Failure storage room.
Yeah i agree, actually i had clarified befofe about that at my pinned comment reply section
Oh no
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"True Failure" True failure of map design
Respect for dedication on yt 🫡
In Endless Part, The Developer In True Hellevan Wish The Luck Of XenesR, Maybe A Enternity Trying Because Their Terrifying Jumps
fun fact: he has like 2.5m to 3m subs.
It's not endless it's end sorry for incorrect typing😂
I think TH is a bit harder because the tower has much smaller platforms and the sticks r harder. The lasers is TF dont effect the gameplay really because u need to go so fast.
ok brendoss be okay with missing sometime with the already uploaded map bro
I think both are equally bad and shouldn't even exist lol
agrreeed
You shouldnt
Stay Comparing In True Hellevan And True Failure Platforms, (I Think) You Still Say This: "Not By The Lasers, In Thin Platforms, True Hellevan Have More Thin Platforms "0.08 Studs Every Thin Platform"
i think like 5 points should be added for TH instead of 2 for thin poles because the one where you just onto the really tiny one is insanely hard to land and is rng
Based on the rule for counting from the beginning of the video, i only will put 2 points maximum
@@Brendoss alright thats fine
True failure has a balanced hard parts but true hellevan has some really hard parts but some easy
True hellevan have the unbalanced difficulty that obviously known, its the thin stick outside part yes
I think TH is harder cuz the tiny jump is smaller than TF and the tree at the last part is very far the lava in TH is faster than TF so Enes need to use shortcut at the 2nd roomto pass that if he use the legit, is harder than TF so i will think TH is harder than TF and TF is 49 and TH is 52
The tiny platform is obviously harder, but ur opinion might be right
Oh i think the wrap in the first room is harder too
True
i remember when xenesr played fe 2
i do agree that most of tf is harder than tg, but th end part is just so much harder than tf that your entire run could end because of it, thats why i think it's way harder.
That make sense👍
i mean i'm not really into fe2 that much anymore but i'd say the lasers in that one room on the floor on TF dont matter since in TH if you fall there you're basically already guaranteed dead however the lasers do provide pressure
True death (true hellevan but buffed even more) hello-
*Instantly loses all attention*
Hellevan is harder because i believe there are more places that have smaller areas. Granted, there are lasers on the ground in the tower, but its much easier to fall down with hellevan.
The Single problem of TF and TH the maps are nearly the same
In True Hellevan The Graphics Can Count +25 But In TF It Can Count +12 But True Failure Continues Harder Now
It would have tied if you counted the ladder climb up in helleven
i think hell wins because the after finish part takes an lot of skill to do and to not panic but i think hell last's part is really easy just focusing
Compare Only These Jumps To View Which Insanity These Jump Give
I believe True Hellavan is harder, because I believed that this is the hardest buff for startup failure from the start to the end
Really true the second ending is harder than true failure
4:35 this room he put the black color word means "GODSPEED" and the Grey color word "DEATH"
That difficulty text was from the original clip by xenesr not me
Ik
I'm just saying u missed a very mentionable part before the tower, the truss split into two with different positions. That can possibly make a tie
they are both garbage but TH is harder by a longshot, people really underestimate the thin poles on TH, TF doesn't have that bad of thin poles, they are way easier than they look
At the end of the day they are both garbage maps and shouldn't really be talked about that much so yeah let's just move on from them
I agree with you👍
I don’t really get why they’re garbage, I just like how fun they look.
True
agree
@@mayyiaz yeah fun is .1 stud spam jumps to increase the difficulty because you can’t make hard gameplay properly
Brendross, I Don't See This Video 1 Time Before Comment, I See This Video A LOT OF TIMES Before Comment
True Hellevan: 69
True Failure: 48
My Totally Count I think is True. True Hellevan CAN Be 59 But Will Be 69 By Graphics, Music, Longjumps, etc. THEN, you forgot Count 2 Extra Points To Longjumps
How to make an impossible map? Simple, just take the first half of true failure and add the second half of true hellevan and there you go, an insanely RNG map that probably is impossible to beat without a minimum of 100 hours of practice.
id say these maps are exactly the same, they just have slight differences
ooh wait thats in the desc nvm about the footage
Of course true hellevan needs a bigger platform it has longer and wider wraparounds
Alright I ganna play pacifico 2 now bye !!!!! Guys
Cool video!
i would say true failure is harder then hellevan except for the outside small jumps
imo, true hellevan is harder cause it’s based on speed and not difficulty.
They’re basically the same thing just different music so I would say tie
True helleven deserves the hardest crazy.
Simple awnser, a 50 stud jump with 2% speed is harde-
still true hellevan is already confirmed hardest map in cm. i think it got deleted tho
When my map suggestion is the hardest with the easiest liquid*
Yo do u still have xenesr full video? He deleted it and i really miss it
Unfortunately i dont have it
maybe 2 of them are the same... but difference of 0.43% hard thantrue hellevan
I am agree with all of the video except in true faillure some wraparound aren t that hard so more of them maybe but not harder i mean it s bazic for someone who attempt these levels + the lasers in the tower part aren t so mich harder maybe +1 ok but whenever you fall you still dead so falling on lasers is the same ( the +1 is because after pressing some button you must go down and so itvmean ya can t go every where
Nah for me tf is still the hardest crazy but imagine if crazy adds a new difficulty that would be game changing.
Share your opinion here
hehe Crazy+
Each thin pole in True Hellevan should've been +10 but I guess that wouldn't work for the vid
Personally, True Hellevan is still the hardest map to ever exist due to that part
These maps are garbage though I like the vid idea
Maybe do Blue Moon VS Poisonous Chasm or something like that
Thanks for ur suggestion
Hm is the Xenesr now still the same person?
@@mmaaasgycywhs probably not
Amazing
Do you can even make a TF or TH tutorial lmao? I rate TF harder bc of thin poles and i always fail in the part of outside of the thin poles ;-;
Lol, i didnt even beat it yet, how can i make tutorial
@@Brendoss Idk lmao?
Both seem hard... idk for a person who hasn't even beaten Poisonous Chasm yet XD
For me, they are the same. Levels that only a exploiter or an inhuman can beat
Beyond human capabilities :trol:
Lol both of them are almost equal, ill think about it and edit this if I thought about it.
true hellevan wins on 3rd part, cuz those hard wall jumps there are 3. also that footage is stolen from enersx or something thats his vid i saw it before
Image true hellevan buffed
GG enesr big achievement btw
also jastreet
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In my opinion I think true hellavan is harder because I really suck at intense thin poles
I agree, true hellevan is harder when i try it myself
with the next upload
true failure + true hellevan
You was in my game g
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True hellevan is harder because more people have beaten true failure than True Hellevan and it was considered impossible for a really long time
Well nobody plays true hellevan because the map is gone
Can You Please Compare Lost Desert To Overdrive
Ill think about it
Wth with true hellevan counter? It went up only 3 points in the crazy part and it went up 6 in the tree parts tf
Finally youtube notifies me
=D
Its nice then, youtube being nice to u
I missed u
true death or startup failiure omega version
You dummy you counted basically no true hellevan jumps in the 5th room
No One Wanna Know >:)
Don't care+didn't ask
For my true hellevan it is more difficult
True failure (like there’s so many buffs of it too
I think?)
True failure is one of the buff of Karaoke Failure
Oh ok- I must have been thinking wrong .-.
HOLY CRAP
TRUE HELLEVAN Is harder THEN true FAilure is so ez for me in Roblox but XenesR beat the Roblox world record he is a Roblox RUclipsr he played murder mystery 2 and Brookhaven
It like I be the first mob to beat this thanks so much I do anything
kinda disagree with hellevan and the last tree parts all getting 1 but meh
TH is harder but TF is so hard too
True Failure is probably easier than eternal punishment imo
true failure is just rigged, so we dont know
do you finding map to find in 9/12 im your friend System
@@c-7046 i have found it and still editing it, video coming soon
ABYSS OF DARKNESS VS TF AND TH, LET S SEE WHICH ID HARDEWR!!?1111!!!11!! /j
who even would compare a gd top 1 to like a fe2cm top 1
This Guy Is An Example Of A Chinese Guy 5 Thin Jump For 1 Point WTF?
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long time ago i thought true hellevan is the hardest but no true failure 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think TH is a bit harder cause it have the last part being ridicilously rigged and hardd and the rigged truss pảrt at the tower.This my opinion.
I rlly agree with ur opinion for the last part of TH
@@Brendoss but now you can just get to the top of that portal thingy to beat it that just make the map so much easier.
Harder is- TrUe bEaNoS
true hellvan is harder because in the really tine jump a big roblox character can fail easily so for the tiny jump that should be 50 points
Max is 2 per jump