@@von_9I guess he solely wanted to be a Producer first .. he didn't like being just an idol ... He wanted to produce his own songs .. that's why he decided to leave ..
1년동안 예담오빠만을 생각하고 기다렸는데 이걸 듣자마자 그 기다림이 얼마나 값진 기다림이었는지, 얼마나 보람찬 일이었는지 느꼈습니다. 오빠의 노래로 마음 한켠에 있던 슬픔과 힘듦을 극복하고 오빠의 노래로 매일 행복을 찾을 수 있었어요. 오빠의 목소리와 모든 것을 사랑해요! 단순히 좋아하는 것을 넘어 이제 오빠의 음악적 색을 마음껏 표현한 곡들이 나오기를 기다리면서 언제나 응원하고 있어요! 노래를 들려주셔서 정말 감사합니다
I am more than proud seeing bang yedam singing, writing, and composing his own song now. This song sounds heartbreaking but I love the bittersweet flavor of it.
Seeing that this song is still so underrated I feel like crying where are you teume's why this doesn't have still those views which it deserve , I am always returning to this song but always getting disappointed that why doesn't it have so much views :(
same here☹️ feels bad seeing how other teumes really did turned their backs on him, they're boycotting his music 'coz they still think yedam betrayed the other members when he left☹️
I'm listening to his new music while crying. I just want to say that I'm really proud of you for continuing your dream to perform and to make music. continue to shine bright, Yedam! We are always here for you.
I just cried to a song without subtitles and that's how emotional I am for your comeback Yedamie. Thank you. We miss you. Keep making more beautiful music. We'll always be here to support you ❤
Yedam I thought we lost such a gem 😭.. I just Want to thank you for not giving up for what u believe in. Now just dont be sad anymore because its our time to make u shine again and even more ❤❤
BANG YEDAM's time as a solo artist has come. We love Treasure and all, however his voice is such a force on its own. More power Yedami, you got this. Fighting!!!
I’m really proud of Bang Yedam. 💎 Yedam, who I've been following since her debut, is now a solo artist, so I hope roses will be scattered along this path. We will continue to support you. Congratulations on your solo comeback🫶🏻🥹❤️
Teumes where are you? This should have 3 million already :( this song is beautiful I’m reminded why HIS VOCALS were the first I fell in love with in the group and thank you for coming back yedam we missed you
I only learned about his comeback yesterday. It seems there were not many promotions especially from korean news sites. I'm happy to spread his comeback!
Oh how I’ve missed your sweet voice yedam❤️ I’m so glad you’ve returned to create a masterpiece and I can’t wait for the album release! EVERYONE LET US CELEBRATE THIS GIFT
there is one things about yedam's voice whenever i listen to it i so touched up until i want to cry. congrats yedam for your debut as soloist. i'm so proud of u. let's we walking to this journey together. i will always support u yedam! can't wait to listen to your others new songs later! :D
From now on I will continue to support you as a soloist Bang Yedam. This song is so touching, you've worked hard, please take care of Yedam in the future. Congratulations to your solo debut, Yeseul🤍✨
I’m so proud of you Yedam!!! You work so hard for coming this way and we are all so proud. You did so well. This song is just incredible. We all wait for this and you didn’t disappointed us 💚🫶
I missed this voice so much. Having a taste of what we’ll get in the future makes me crave for more. We are so proud of you coming back Yedam. With that flavor and special thing that makes you who you are, ❤BANG YEDAM❤
My boy Yedam, Congrats on 1MILLION + views on your MV in your main BYD channel. Congrats on your Sold Out first batch of EP Album Pre-orders both in Korea and Internationally.
Beautiful voice. Beautiful song~and album for sure. Happy my Bang Yedam is flying freely and not tied down anymore. I am proud of my brave Yedam who took that great leap. My Yedam who gets to share All his beautiful original songs to the world starting now.
Yedam terimakasih telah kembali, akhirnya bisa mendengarkan suara emas kamuu lagiii. Ngga sabar nunggu karya-karya kamu selanjutnyasa. Selamat dan sukses untuk debut solo kamuuu damie
This song is so good. Thank you so much Yedam for this masterpiece. We appreciate your hard work and we will support you no matter what. I missed you so much. I love you so much.
Ini luar biasa banget, sampe aku merinding! Yedamie, kamu bersinar sangat terang sekali, aku sampai tidak bisa berkedip dan menahan nafasku untuk beberapa saat. Congrats, kami bangga banget sama kamu yang luar biasa!
I have been putting this mv on repeat all day, Yedam deserves the world and more ❤ We’re all here to support you, I hope you see these beautiful comments left by all of us and continue on to be such an aspiring artist!!
Yedam, cuman mau ngomong bangga banget sama kamu. Makasih udah buat karya seindah ini, bener - bener lagu yang indah mulai dari suara sampai melodinya seindah itu
Meanwhile, I am Not Sure Whether I Can Still Address Yedammie with the Nickname of "Yedee-Chan's Daddy" or Not as of the Present Era. Cos I Entered the Treasure Maker Fandom via the Cute & Cartoony TRUZ Babies. (Also Known as Treasure's Own Version of the Infamous BT21 Set of Characters.) From my Own Point of View, "Miss You" is Lovely in Terms of Music-Wise. However, its Lyrics Mostly Seem to be a 🥺😢😭 and Apologetic ✉ from Yedammie Towards Mashiho-Kun and All of the 🔟 Current Treasure 👦.
Yedam I'm so proud of you. Waktu kamu mutusin buat keluar dari treasure aku ga bohong kalau aku cukup kecewa sama keputusan kamu. Tapi ngeliat kamu nyayi lagi sekarang aku tahu ini memang keputusan yang tepat buat kamu. Sekarang kamu bisa lebih eksplor dan mengekspresikan jenis musik yang kamu suka. Kerena sejatinya seorang musisi adalah bisa bebas mengekspresikan musik-musik yang mereka suka. Lagu "Miss You" ini benar-benar ngobatin rasa rindu kita ke kamu. Yedam thank you for comeback singing again, we'll always support you ❤
Woww👏🏻👏🏻 Bang yedam always be bang yedam🥹🥹🫶🏻🫶🏻 I like you song, your voice and your effort to always stay here with us yedamiee🤧😭😭 Thankyou so much and good luck yedamie🫶🏻🫶🏻🥹🥹❤️🔥❤️🔥
Just when I thought you gave up as any artist before my eyes could blink, you showed up and debuted as a solo artist 😭🫶🏻 I know you’re gonna be so big and I truly hope the world will now about you and your angelic voice The lyrics, your voice, everything is so PERFECT. I’m so glad your back on your feet Yedam. So glad your voice didn’t go to waste :)
Damie, thank you for coming back with beautiful song. I missing ur pretty vocal all day, i love this song ♥︎. I am here to support you nicely. Keep shining my Damie, you are so talented.
guysss lets shower him with our love and support, he deserves it, after so long he finally came back with new music for us to hear his voice again, we need to do our part properly!!!
YESSSSS I hope he always continues to make music 😭 bc he's so good, he was basically MEANT to sing/make music. The whole world would be missing out the day he stops 😭😭😭😭
I don't know what to say. I'm overwhelmed with happiness, it makes me speechless.. However, I need to say this. Yedamie, thanks for returning to the music scene and sharing your music with the world.. "Miss you" is serene, enchanting, magical. It captures the heart and soul. Wish you success and blessings!
congratulation for your new song yedam< i really like this song, I really enjoyed every second of this music video, from the lyrics to the notes and harmonies that you created, this song is masterpiece for me! success always to you bang yedam from me and all your fans around the world! We love you and we will always support you!
WE'RE FINALLY IN THIS CHAPTER OF YEDAM'S SOLOIST LIFE. WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU YEDAM! LOVE U
He made it here😭💎
May I ask why did he leave his group? He was doing very well.
@@von_9회사쪽 문제예요 마약이나 아티스트가 발매하고 싶어도 못하고 뭐 그런?
This sounds like it can be a good OST
@@von_9I guess he solely wanted to be a Producer first .. he didn't like being just an idol ... He wanted to produce his own songs .. that's why he decided to leave ..
I had a mental breakdown when a first heard he’s leaving Treasure cause he was the reason I got into them. So glad he’s back to making music.
1년동안 예담오빠만을 생각하고 기다렸는데 이걸 듣자마자 그 기다림이 얼마나 값진 기다림이었는지, 얼마나 보람찬 일이었는지 느꼈습니다. 오빠의 노래로 마음 한켠에 있던 슬픔과 힘듦을 극복하고 오빠의 노래로 매일 행복을 찾을 수 있었어요. 오빠의 목소리와 모든 것을 사랑해요! 단순히 좋아하는 것을 넘어 이제 오빠의 음악적 색을 마음껏 표현한 곡들이 나오기를 기다리면서 언제나 응원하고 있어요! 노래를 들려주셔서 정말 감사합니다
YEDAM I LOVE U
I am more than proud seeing bang yedam singing, writing, and composing his own song now. This song sounds heartbreaking but I love the bittersweet flavor of it.
Yea you should watch live version.
AAAAA KEREN BANGET SELALU KERENNNNNN yedammm terimakasih sudah kembali makasii uda bawain lagu sebagus dan sekeren inii
최고의 가수 우리 예담이 드디어 돌이왔다!사랑해
Seeing that this song is still so underrated I feel like crying where are you teume's why this doesn't have still those views which it deserve , I am always returning to this song but always getting disappointed that why doesn't it have so much views :(
same here☹️ feels bad seeing how other teumes really did turned their backs on him, they're boycotting his music 'coz they still think yedam betrayed the other members when he left☹️
イェダムの歌声も作曲もほんまに素敵鳥肌たった🥲
그냥 최고,,,,,,
이런 예쁜 곡을 또 만들어져서 정말 정말 감사해요,,,언제라도 예담이는 우리의 보물이야. 같이 꽃길만 걸어가즈아아ㅏㅏㅏ
I'm listening to his new music while crying. I just want to say that I'm really proud of you for continuing your dream to perform and to make music. continue to shine bright, Yedam! We are always here for you.
this song is full of emotions love you yedamie!!!
I just cried to a song without subtitles and that's how emotional I am for your comeback Yedamie. Thank you. We miss you. Keep making more beautiful music. We'll always be here to support you ❤
just how someone cries... without knowin anything...
I’m so proud of yedam. Please support this upcoming album a lot. So excited to see what the future has in store for Yedam 💗
아름다운 노래, 예담 최고♡
Yedam love you
노래 너무 좋다!! 역시 갓예담!! 케이팝스타때부터 좋아하고 응원하는 팬이야! 우리한테 이렇게 좋은 노래 들려줄려고 솔로앨범 준비하는데 너무 고생했을건데 너무 고마워! 이 노래 짱인것처럼 다른노래들 하고 앨범 기대할께! 항상 언제나 그럿듯이 응원할께!!
우리 예담이 목소리 도 노래 도 너무 좋아요!
예담오빠 이렇게 다시 예담오빠의 음악을 보내 주셔서 고마워요ㅠㅠㅠ뭔가 지금 마음이 너무 따뜻해요….앞으로 예담오빠가 많은 행복에 휩싸이길!!언제나 응원할게요 사랑해요!!!
Yedam I thought we lost such a gem 😭.. I just Want to thank you for not giving up for what u believe in. Now just dont be sad anymore because its our time to make u shine again and even more ❤❤
The lyrics, the melody, and the voice . Bang Yedam, this song is soo perfect!! Indeed I miss you , I love you, and I need you.
돌아와서 너무 기뻐요 우리는 당신을 기다리고 있었고 항상 당신을 지원할 것입니다 노래가 너무 좋고 가사가 울고 싶고 노래가 너무 아름답고 방예담의 목소리와 결합이 가장 완벽합니다. 나는 이 노래를 좋아한다
Thanks for coming back to us!Bang Yedam is always Bang Yedam.Vocal, Visual is so so beautiful.I'm so proud of Yedamie,love you.
고생많았어요. 진정 실력자
항상 응원합니다.
예담은 사랑입니다❤😊😊😊😊
the long wait is finally over :(( I’m so proud of you, my yedam! Remember that we’ll always be here for youuu
I cried when I heard your voice. Thank you for coming back Yedam! Keep shining like the beautiful star you are!
Yedam did a great job, Im crying and so happy proud of him :(
This is so amazing
Yedam best boy frr
I can't explain how happy i'm
So beautiful yedam 🤍
BANG YEDAM's time as a solo artist has come. We love Treasure and all, however his voice is such a force on its own. More power Yedami, you got this. Fighting!!!
I’m really proud of Bang Yedam. 💎 Yedam, who I've been following since her debut, is now a solo artist, so I hope roses will be scattered along this path. We will continue to support you. Congratulations on your solo comeback🫶🏻🥹❤️
Teumes where are you? This should have 3 million already :( this song is beautiful I’m reminded why HIS VOCALS were the first I fell in love with in the group and thank you for coming back yedam we missed you
I only learned about his comeback yesterday. It seems there were not many promotions especially from korean news sites. I'm happy to spread his comeback!
teume? but he's not treasure anymore, remember?
I just see this now,I still love you yedam
to me he is still part of treasure as I know him from treasure
@@teddybear6337
Oh how I’ve missed your sweet voice yedam❤️ I’m so glad you’ve returned to create a masterpiece and I can’t wait for the album release! EVERYONE LET US CELEBRATE THIS GIFT
Golden voice
Angelic voice
there is one things about yedam's voice whenever i listen to it i so touched up until i want to cry. congrats yedam for your debut as soloist. i'm so proud of u. let's we walking to this journey together. i will always support u yedam! can't wait to listen to your others new songs later! :D
your lyrics, your voice, the music video... everything is great!
thank you Yedam, really love you 💙
This song suits Yedam very well. It describes Yedam's personality very well. I'm so happy that Yedam had the opportunity to make a song like this.
From now on I will continue to support you as a soloist Bang Yedam. This song is so touching, you've worked hard, please take care of Yedam in the future. Congratulations to your solo debut, Yeseul🤍✨
Beautiful voice and song. All the best, Bang Yedam.
Best Song,Best Solo Artist,Best Producer,Best Vocalist.His vocal is so so sweet.I'm crying....
I’m so proud of you Yedam!!! You work so hard for coming this way and we are all so proud. You did so well. This song is just incredible. We all wait for this and you didn’t disappointed us 💚🫶
I missed this voice so much. Having a taste of what we’ll get in the future makes me crave for more. We are so proud of you coming back Yedam. With that flavor and special thing that makes you who you are, ❤BANG YEDAM❤
Angels really must sound like Bang Yedam , his uniqueness knows no boundaries.
우리 예담이 진짜 정말 대단해..🩷 노래도 완전 좋고 가사의 의미도 너무 아름다워.. ㅠㅠ 이 노래는 진짜 짱이야
Finally we can hear you ❤ 너무 고생했어요, 노래가 지이이인자 넘 넘 아름다워요. 앞으로도 파이팅🫶🏻
노래가 너무 좋아서 듣고 눈물났어❤❤ 이럭헤 멋지개 돌아와젓어 너무고마워🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
24/7 i'm thinking about youu
My boy Yedam, Congrats on 1MILLION + views on your MV in your main BYD channel. Congrats on your Sold Out first batch of EP Album Pre-orders both in Korea and Internationally.
Beautiful voice. Beautiful song~and album for sure.
Happy my Bang Yedam is flying freely and not tied down anymore. I am proud of my brave Yedam who took that great leap. My Yedam who gets to share All his beautiful original songs to the world starting now.
Wow that was super cool of him. Congratulations Yedam!
Waaaw!!!! What a healing voice😊😊 we love you Yedam ❤️ 💖 ❤❤❤❤ & congratulations 🎊 👏 💐 🥳 💖 Here for you forever and ever darling ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
방예담이 돌아왔다.
너무 보고싶었어요❤
노래도 좋고 지금 너무 행복해요...😢
방예담 화이팅하자!!!
涙が出そうになるくらい心に響く歌声❤イェダムがまた見れて嬉しいよ😭
This pre-release is already a masterpiece. How much more the album release next week. My heart is full. Thank you for this, my yedamie.
Crying because of yedam's voice. You deserve the whole world yedam.🥺💛
So beautiful, I love it! ❤ So glad to hear my biases sweet voice again! 🥰
Que voz mas preciosa que tiene, no puedo dejar de escucharlo
드디어 최고의 가수 방예담 나왔어, 그 이쁜 목소리와 멜로디를 잘어울려요 이 귀는 그 완벽한 노래 듣고 와...미쳤어 진짜 멋있어요 너무 기특해여 우리 예담이~! 이 새로운 노래 너무 좋아~ 항상응원할게요~!
퍼포먼스가 너무 멋져요 울고싶어요 노래도 멜로디도 너무 좋아요 영원히 응원할게요 최고의 것을 다시 가져왔습니다. 감사합니다💎😔❤
Golden voice
@@kpopkurdishdiamonds9663 Oh, his voice is crazy🤍
예담이 역시 영원히 우리 실망시키지않네 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 목소리 진짜 너무 너무 너무 좋고 너무 너무 너무 감동이ㅑ ㅠㅠㅠ 계속 음악해줘서 고맙고 이번 앨범대박나자 ㅠㅠㅠ 많이많이 사랑해
I lost count of how many times I have listened to this. Yedam, you are a gem!
Yedam terimakasih telah kembali, akhirnya bisa mendengarkan suara emas kamuu lagiii. Ngga sabar nunggu karya-karya kamu selanjutnyasa. Selamat dan sukses untuk debut solo kamuuu damie
No matter where you go, your voice will always shine, yedam
This song is so good. Thank you so much Yedam for this masterpiece. We appreciate your hard work and we will support you no matter what. I missed you so much. I love you so much.
ခံစားသက်ဝင်မှုအရမ်းကောင်းတဲ့ သီချင်းပါ Bang Ye Dam အသံအရမ်းကြိုက်
Ini luar biasa banget, sampe aku merinding!
Yedamie, kamu bersinar sangat terang sekali, aku sampai tidak bisa berkedip dan menahan nafasku untuk beberapa saat. Congrats, kami bangga banget sama kamu yang luar biasa!
Can play musical intruments, has a versatile voice, can produce his own song. My oh My, Yedam. ❤️
イェダムおかえりなさい🥲
もう一度イェダムの歌声が聴けるなんて幸せすぎるよ、、これから幸せなことしか起こりませんように🫶🏻 ソロデビューおめでとう!🦊
We finally have Yedam as soloist ❤ his voice speaks so much emotion…
Thank you for coming back, Yedam! Your talents deserve to be flaunted! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
최고의 가수 드디어 돌아왔다!!!!! 예담아 많이 축하하고 오래오래 행복하고 대박나자 💙
Golden voice
The goosebumps that I felt from the start to finish. You are really THEE YEDAM.
I have been putting this mv on repeat all day, Yedam deserves the world and more ❤ We’re all here to support you, I hope you see these beautiful comments left by all of us and continue on to be such an aspiring artist!!
Yedam, cuman mau ngomong bangga banget sama kamu. Makasih udah buat karya seindah ini, bener - bener lagu yang indah mulai dari suara sampai melodinya seindah itu
예담씨가 다시 등장하게 되어 너무 기쁘고, 음악적으로도 늘 성공하시길 바라겠습니다. 내 청춘의 일부가 되어주셔서 감사합니다.
이 노래는 모든 것에 슬퍼하고 울다가 영혼에 도달하는 노래입니다, 이 발라드를 발표해주신 예담씨 감사합니다
From wayo to miss you, and here we are, waiting only one to release❤ i love all of your song!
I adore him so much, thank you for always providing amazing music yedam
i'm thrilled to hear your soulful voice again.. continue to compose and sing beautiful songs, Yedam! Fighting!
Thank you for coming back to us yedam we love you so much congratulations and continue to share your beautiful voice!
Meanwhile, I am Not Sure Whether I Can Still Address Yedammie with the Nickname of "Yedee-Chan's Daddy" or Not as of the Present Era. Cos I Entered the Treasure Maker Fandom via the Cute & Cartoony TRUZ Babies. (Also Known as Treasure's Own Version of the Infamous BT21 Set of Characters.)
From my Own Point of View, "Miss You" is Lovely in Terms of Music-Wise. However, its Lyrics Mostly Seem to be a 🥺😢😭 and Apologetic ✉ from Yedammie Towards Mashiho-Kun and All of the 🔟 Current Treasure 👦.
เพราะมาก ชอบเพลงนี้มากๆ ซึ้งกินใจ
가사가 왜 이렇게 직설적으로 박히는 걸까…..피아노의 기분 좋은 소리와 계속 다르지 않은 예담의 맑고 투명한 노랫소리가 정말 마음을 울립니다.
또 음악을 들려주셔서 감사합니다.앞으로의 활동도 계속 응원하고 있겠습니다🥲❤️🔥
Yedam I'm so proud of you. Waktu kamu mutusin buat keluar dari treasure aku ga bohong kalau aku cukup kecewa sama keputusan kamu. Tapi ngeliat kamu nyayi lagi sekarang aku tahu ini memang keputusan yang tepat buat kamu. Sekarang kamu bisa lebih eksplor dan mengekspresikan jenis musik yang kamu suka. Kerena sejatinya seorang musisi adalah bisa bebas mengekspresikan musik-musik yang mereka suka. Lagu "Miss You" ini benar-benar ngobatin rasa rindu kita ke kamu. Yedam thank you for comeback singing again, we'll always support you ❤
The emotions, the piano, the overall work. It is the thing I would love to hear again and again. Well gone yedam
항상 들을 수록 반할 수 밖에 없는 예담이 음색 ㅠㅠㅠ 이번에도 좋은 노래 만들어줘서 고마워!!! 이번 앨범 대박나자 🤍🤍
당장 내 리스트에 꼭 들어가야할 노래..진짜 감동..노래 축하해 정말 기특하다..예담 항상 건강하고 빛나길..사랑해..
Goosebumps and teary eyes without understanding the lyrics!! 😭😭
My heart is forever supporting you our Bang Yedam! 😭😭
예담님 수고 많으셨습니다 항상 노래가 좋습니다 최선을 다하셨습니다 ❤
Golden voice
Miss you
Woww👏🏻👏🏻
Bang yedam always be bang yedam🥹🥹🫶🏻🫶🏻
I like you song, your voice and your effort to always stay here with us yedamiee🤧😭😭
Thankyou so much and good luck yedamie🫶🏻🫶🏻🥹🥹❤️🔥❤️🔥
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Yedam, this song is so beautiful. I'm crying. I'm so proud of you. I will always be here to support you.
예담아, 드디어 돌아왔구나! 이 순간까지 기다렸어요, 또 고마워요, 고마워요!!!!! 항상 응원할게요, 늘 행복하세요. 당신의 아름다운 노래를 기다리고 있어요
Just when I thought you gave up as any artist before my eyes could blink, you showed up and debuted as a solo artist 😭🫶🏻 I know you’re gonna be so big and I truly hope the world will now about you and your angelic voice
The lyrics, your voice, everything is so PERFECT. I’m so glad your back on your feet Yedam. So glad your voice didn’t go to waste :)
Damie, thank you for coming back with beautiful song. I missing ur pretty vocal all day, i love this song ♥︎. I am here to support you nicely. Keep shining my Damie, you are so talented.
guysss lets shower him with our love and support, he deserves it, after so long he finally came back with new music for us to hear his voice again, we need to do our part properly!!!
YESSSSS I hope he always continues to make music 😭 bc he's so good, he was basically MEANT to sing/make music. The whole world would be missing out the day he stops 😭😭😭😭
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I don't know what to say. I'm overwhelmed with happiness, it makes me speechless.. However, I need to say this. Yedamie, thanks for returning to the music scene and sharing your music with the world.. "Miss you" is serene, enchanting, magical. It captures the heart and soul. Wish you success and blessings!
The song and his voice are both so beautiful.
I love how we all of a sudden got a huge jump in vi3ws, Bang Yedam totally deserves our love and support
congratulation for your new song yedam< i really like this song, I really enjoyed every second of this music video, from the lyrics to the notes and harmonies that you created, this song is masterpiece for me! success always to you bang yedam from me and all your fans around the world! We love you and we will always support you!
An already beautiful song made even greater with a voice that speaks so much emotion to your soul!
BANG YEDAM!
BANG YEDAM!
BANG YEDAM!
Yedam you have the most beautiful voice i have heard in my life i really wish you be healthy and successful person in your life ❤❤
the melody plus bang yedam's voice, its a perfection 😢❤️❤️
Golden voice
Damie-ah, makasi banyak udah kembali. Selamat buat debut Solo nya, lagu kamu selalu indah. Mari sukses bersama, ya bang
Yedam's vocals never disappoint, always filled with so much emotions. Glad he's back and making music again
accck, i'm so proud of you my yedamie!!