Why are u calling them quranist??????????? They are nakara. Western puppets ignorants who want to play with the interpretations to fit their ideologies ( or i mean their masters ideologies) If he refuses sahaba interpretations ( which they were the closest people to rassul Allah and its their own language) then to who give the interpretations to nakrani puppet brainwashed by kufar ideologies and have 0 knowledge? Are they even close to sahaba? 🤔🤔 Nakara are not muslims. They are out of islam. Period Don’t put the word quranist again! We are muslims who believe in quran and sunnah. The divide and conquor machine is always on work shayatin al inss wa al jin. Please! Not again with quranist..
THese people want the reform of islam as their masters told em to do and did to their books and beliefs. They want an islam that fit their masters because islam does not suit their kufr. Reform won’t happen nor we do believe in smth called reform in the deen lol
Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليهم وسلم) said : lo! Soon a hadith from me will be conveyed to a man, while he is reclining on his couch, and he says: between us and you in Allah's book. So whatever we find in it that is lawful, we consider lawful, and whatever we find in it that is unlawful, we consider it unlawful, indeed whatever the messenger of Allah made unlawful, it is the same as what Allah made unlawful. REFERENCE: JAMI AT TIRMIDHI 2664 IN BOOK REFERENCE: BOOK 41, HADITH 20 ENGLISH TRANSLATION : VOL.5 BOOK 39, HADITH 2664
Sunnis are a sign of qiyamah. Still bending over for the Saudis while the Saudis still trade & befriend the isrelis while the isrelis commit their crimes against the Philistines
You can make jokes or comical comments without inventing lies - part of the good etiquettes of Muslims is to avoid joking if joking consists of being untruthful
@@omarchikhi2595 How is that a problem? Millions of people know arabic around the world, they accept The Qur'an and Hadith. They trust Allah, His prophet pbuh, the companions of the prophet and the tabi'un (the following generations). And they have an extensive biography on all of these people. Or is the shaytan trying to make up excuses for you to not be on the right path?
@@hamzagayardi498you guys trust and love the companions (humans) the same as you do Allah, and you elevate the words of the companions (humans) to the same level as Allah’s words (Qur’an). This is shirk at the highest and most wicked level. You guys are all disbelievers in Allah. You guys do not believe and have faith that Allah preserved the Qur’an in the way he sees fit. You guys believe the preservation of Qur’an was achieved by the companions (humans) which means you guys do not trust Allah. You guys are all fools. Shia, Sunni, and any one who accepts that Hadith are as authoritative and authentic as Qur’an. Bunch of Kufr. And before you hit me with some dumb ass argument about “hOw dO u pRaY? or hOw mAnY tiMeS dO yOu pRaY?” ALLAH SWT DOES NOT SPECIFY ANY SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIMES TO PRAY OR THE METHODS ON HOW TO PRAY. So the logic follows that the methods of prayer and the frequency of prayer are not fixed by Allah, the way you guys try to fix into 5 prayers and washing and all that other shirk you guys do. What matters to Allah is the sincerity of ones heart when they cry out to him & pray to him. We can pray all day long if we like, its not fixed to 5 times. You are disbelievers with not a single ounce of faith in Allah.
@@subilabi Who's talking about majority or minority ? You, not me. That was not my argument, but rather words you tried putting in my mouth. Hopefully, you only misread my comment, and it was not intentional from your part. Also, the comment I responded to have already been deleted, so I advise you to know the context before coming to conclusion about what my argument is about, which in this case would be hard to know because of the initial comment not being here anymore. Basically for the so called "quranists", I would say to them that they are not true followers The Qur'an. Qur'an 24:54 : _"Say, “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then he is only responsible for his duty and you are responsible for yours. And if you obey him, you will be ˹rightly˺ guided. The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver ˹the message˺ clearly.”"_ . Qur'an 24:56 : _"Moreover, establish prayer, pay alms-tax, and obey the Messenger, so you may be shown mercy."_ And there many many other verses in which Allah clearly orders us to follow the messenger pbuh. Them "quranists" not following the authentic Hadiths is going against the command of Allah in the Qur'an.
@@bigbosss7911ye and we’re gonna keep coming cope I debated Ali dawah and showed him example where the Quran is more strict. It’s not about morality it’s about objectivity. You guys paint your self as a chad religion of Sunnis. Read bukhari 1847b and you’ll realize Sunnisisim is a beta religion. The only chad and true religion is ISLAM and you guys haven’t been following that keep coping 16:44, 4:59 and hikmah verses won’t work on us we have refuated all your points I recommend correctional officer on RUclips and I have came to these conclusions before them. My ignorance made me have whispers of joining back Sunnisism. When I became stronger in knowledge of the Quran I become closer to Quran alone and Allah even confirmed things for me through signs. Look at Muhammad from god new short they kicked him off from debate with hamzaden. You guys can run but you can’t hide we’re gonna keep coming if you guys run away then we will steal your dawah spotlight then you will be forced to face us
When a man talks fast and does not allow a response he is scared of answers. Look at him shaking all over and sipping juice fast, his body language tells he wants to pull a fast one on Bro. Ali... His deception shows clearly.
The Hadith about I a living apostates is the biggest one that contradicts the Ayana about no compulsion in Islam. May Allah have mercy on the believers and guide us ❤
Look into the details in the sharia for what happens with apostasy and you will see you it is not compulsion in terms of religion. Look up the topic on Muslim lantern channel
@@omarchikhi2595 yeah fake and false myths! You’re just another uneducated, idiot, educate yourself before you talk, bro! Take u and ur 8 subscribers somewhere else. Stop spreading hate and go look in the mirror, bro and check yourself, Omar!
Subhanallah does he pray five daily prayers n how he does it may almighty Allah guide him n all the ummah with the love of our beloved prophet Mohammed s a.w
Anas bin Malik narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: "Whoever asks Allah (s.w.t) Paradise three times, Paradise says: 'O Allah, admit him into Paradise', and whoever seeks refuge from the Fire three times, the Fire says: 'O Allah, save him from the Fire.'" Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2572 Grade: Sahih
believe me bro, he's not angry, it's just the way they talk, it's loud. learning Arabic and chatting with local Arabs scared me for the first time. it's like a fight but it's a normal conversation. My heart is burning and it takes courage.😂 It's funny when I recall it. I step back a little in front of the old uncle.
When a quranist says peace and and blessings be upon the prophet, then where does he get that from, that he should say that when the prophet is mentioned????
5:47 - And let the People of the Gospel JUDGE by what Allāh has REVEALED THEREIN. AND WHOEVER DOES NOT JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED - then it is those who are the DEFIANTLY DISOBEDIENT. 45:6 These are Allah’s revelations which We recite to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth. So what Hadith will they believe in after ˹denying˺ Allah and His revelations? 5:49 - And judge, [O Muḥammad], between them by what Allāh has revealed and do not follow their inclinations and beware of them, lest they tempt you away from some of what Allāh has revealed to you.
Here is 1 contradiction between Quran and Hadith: The event of first revelation is mentioned in Quran in the beginning of surah najm! The event of first revelation mentioned in Hadith is different from what’s in surah najm!
This is what makes me dislike muslim then don't believe with Islam 15years ago seeing muslim attitude, the way they talk/ move/ look Amin. May Allah give you Janna brother Ali
People that want to change the meaning of revaluation don’t accept the hadit. Maybe he does not want to pray 5x a day or fast during Ramadan so they choose not the believe in Hadit. These people try to justify their desires by falsifying scripture.
Some people will say to you, “I am the Messiah!” Other people will say, “I am a prophet from God.” But their words will be false. They will do strange and powerful things for people to see. If possible, they would even deceive the people that God has chosen.
I think his point is that the hadiths are as suspect to vilification or rewording as the Torah and injeel are but the Quran is protected and promised to be protected.
@@ZDL679 It's a good and honest system and practice, I believe in following the Sunnah and wish I could have been there to witness it myself as I recognise that it's possible for more than 7 people to collude together in the same lie also - it's one of those things, it's important to use the mind Allah gave you to not be shy or blind when seeking truth.
@@omarchikhi2595 try the sheikh uthman ibn farooq with @bobby’sperspective video I know they did talked about it in mosque if you have trouble I’ll try and find it for you.
@@omarchikhi2595 tell me if I’m wrong but don’t the dead sea scrolls have a like 1000 year gap from the time of Moses pbuh. As the bible really what should we start the contradictions or the terrible lines of narrations.
To the hadithyoon, can you come up with one verse in Quran that says follow the sunnah of prophet Muhammad and also one verse that refers to any secondary books outside of the Qur'an as hadiths to be used for guidance? One verse for each to support yoir claims. Let's see.
And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path. Ash-Shura 52 Say, [O Muhammad], “If you should love Allah, then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” Aale Imran 31
@@RyanX1899 @ريانX1899 O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad), and Ulil Amri (the authority) among you. Then, if you differ in opinion about something, then return it to Allah (the Qur'an) and the Messenger (His Sunnah), if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. Surah An Nisa verse 59
They wrote the hadith for later generations like us, why would they need it for themselves when they were literally in the presence of the prophet himself.
@@sumayaraise some of the first Hadith we're written down in the time of the third Caliphate Uthmaan Ibn Affan, who encouraged this practice, scholars of Hadith later meticulously authenticated hadith ensuring that they had sound chains of Narration and every person in that chain was trustworthy.
Lol Ur ignorance is the cause. Nakara are clear apostate. Period! There won’t be reform of islam. Islam in here and forever. So ur masters reform won’t happens even if we die for this deen. Bunch of secularists want to an islam that fit imperialist powers. Ie kufar. Ignorance is fatal
God sent Quran for us to follow not hadiths and our dear prophet told Us to follow the Quran. This why we Muslims have so many sects and divisions. Shias have thier own Hadiths And sunnies have theirs Hadith is not our holy book but Quran is .
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
@@omarchikhi2595 so how do you know the teachings of prophet peace be upon him like the Quran commands no offence bro but r u an expect in Hadith sciences neither am I but edited or compiled like the Quran was after the prophet’s death pbuh the Hadith give us lines of narrations going back to companions of the prophet peace be upon we would find inconsistencies within those lines if they were false which some do exist but that’s why we have different types narrations authentic, reliable, weak and fabricated. In addition, to the prophecies about the war of Persian and Roman “but those were two biggest empire at the time” okay women will be clothed but naked Saheeh Muslim 2128 (go to the gym and look at what some girl wear)
I've seen some discussions but honestly this one is by now the worst. The way he cannot control himself trying to prove his unprovable points is beyond me. Ya Allah guide this man and all the Quranists for they are surely a bit lost.
Why are the hadeeths so chaotic and demonic in comparison to the Qu'ran though ? And is Allah swt really going to throw someone in hell for believing in the Qu'ran without the hadeeths ? When he himself told us to follow it alone ?
There is no Authenticated Hadith which is demonic, the only demonic thing is what you are saying, you are rejecting the way of Rasulullah as Allah has commanded in the Qur'an, Ironic that Quranists go against clear teachings of the Qur'an
@@YahyaTheSinani You know what's even more crazy, Quranists don't even believe in making Istinjah before they pray or touch the Qur'an, now that's demonic by definition 🤢
@@YahyaTheSinani what about child marriage , stoning for adultery, drinking camel piss , sex slaves , adult breastfeeding , death penalty for apostates, antidote on fly's wings, Qu'ran missing verses, stories of prophet Muhammed (pbuh) sucking on 6yo Aisha's tongue , forcing a women to marry him after she called him ugly , tearing a women apart with 2 horses running in opposite directions and there's alot more if you want . To me this looks like something made by the Devil to make Islam look bad , it's really against human fitrah . Only the Qu'ran brought me closer to Allah .
Quran came to us through the same Muslims that transmitted the hadith. This is the point Ali dawah is trying to make however this is not a valid argument and a moot point. I cannot say about other Quranists but for myself I don't believe in Quran because it was brought to me by the same Muslims or my forefathers transferred it to me, I believe in it because it spoke to me as a word of Allah(God) and because Quran is its own proof. Allah says in the Quran that if it was from anyone else other then Allah then you would find a lot of discrepancies in it. So i read it and never found any discrepancies unlike the so called authentic hadiths that are full of discrepancies and multiple conflicting testimonies and stupid things like drinking camel urine etc. So to say that we should also believe in Hadith because they were transmitted by the same people that transmitted Quran is not a valid argument because Quranists believe in Quran due to its own merits and not because it came to us from someone. It does not matter where it came from or who transferred it or even if it dropped from heaven, the point is we believe in Quran because it claims to be word of God and we believe it.
I do have a question, in the war of gamal aisha fought her own brother mohamad ibn abu bakr who was stating ali is the chalipha, so that makes mohamad ibn abu bkr Shia, also muawiya army killed ammr ibn yasser who the prophet said will be on the side of the truth, how do sunni describe or view this? How do you debate this fact?
Your a rafidi shia your basically a Hindu. Go learn how to read al fatiha. And learn Arabic. The shia of kufa that betrayed and killed. You have no point.
but the guy is right though, look how many hadiths there how Prophet pbuh could say all this in his life? His prophethood started when he was 40 and ended when he died at 63, 23 years = 8395 days, and how many hadiths are there? And how did they documented it 200 years after? Obviously many of them are doubtful and should be analyzed.
@@0xusernamenotfound they already have I recommend you listen to sheikh uthman ibn farooq video about Hadith sciences and decide for yourself if you disagree or agree with the logic may Allah guide all to the right path.
and thats propably the best reason for why thought schools in islam exist because people read the all the hadits and have no way to put any of them into context and become like this, or isnt it?
Aah Aisha r.a the prophet Muhammad's best friend, abu bakr r.a daughter imagine the responsibility being with your father in law everyday I'm sure he trusted his daughter with prophet muhammad and would have made sure it wasn't anything bad you.couldn't trust people in them days with your daughter hence his 2 daughters were married to his companions uthman and Ali would he trust them with his daughter also yes. They trusted him with theie daughters so did omar r.a, these were pious people
Can you explain 4:157. Why does allah have to trick the jews. And where was jesus when the fake jesus was being crucified? Because the verse isn't clear at all.. Without the hadith or tufsir can you explain without adding words
Apparently a goat ate a Qur'an verse about stoning and women breast feeding adults according to your filthy hadith books.🤦♂️ Your mushrik books have nothing to do with the Prophet Muhammad. Works of corruptors and storytellers.
It's better to compare the hadith with the modern history books. It gives us a window on how the first followers interpret the Qur'an, that doesn't mean that their are no mistakes or falsification in it. It means that we can never put the hadith in the same importance as the Qur'an, and those that do that are misguided.
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
The ironic thing that whenever I debate or interact with ‘Quranists’ , it is the Sunnis who respect , read, recite with tajweed , understand , apply and memorize the Quran far more than these so called Quranists.
How does these Quranists know how to perform the prayer, the movements of the prayer and the number or raqaas for each prayer etc. And how do they know how much to pay in zakat, because neither of those are described in detail in our Holy Quran, but in the sahih hadiths.
@@omarchikhi2595 but that literally mean that it’s from a hadith because those groups take those information from the prophet peace be upon him what the point you are trying to make? You are describing how the Hadiths are transmits and verified.If you search on Google Hadiths that descride the Prayer it literally show you a book of muslim even gpt agree about that. You are insulting the companions by saying those Kind absurdities all around the comments. You just want to follow your desires by lying you can misgued yourself however you want but do not try to that to others reflect on yourself and how . May Allah bless and guide us to the right path have a good day. And do not try to reply this or start a debate here i won’t answer
First point Ali made : the hadith have come through the same path as the Qur'an. INCORRECT. The majority of sahih hadith are 'ahad hadith ' meaning only one person witnessed the prophet PBUH saying it. The Qur'an on the other hand was given through the living tradition (father to son, community leader to the people), everywhere continuously. It is THE MOST MASS TRANSMITTED BOOK IN HISTORY because it is verified through every major part of the historic Islamic world. The hadith were compiled by men 200 years after the prophet's death and many are not accepted by the different math'habs and sects. Each sect has their own version of how to follow the guidance. They become sects (Sunnis are a sect ). Second point: Ali said he accepts that a goat ate the parchment which supposedly had the verse commanding stoning. This IS A CONTRACTION as Allah has given examples of the disbelieving communities who either stoned people or threatened to stone the messengers/prophet's. Please please think why would Allah SWA tell you about disbelievers engaging with stoning and then give a verse commanding the stoning ??? Allah doesn't give guidance like this. If we all follow one book and one guidance we will all be one people and Iblis will in distress. Salaam and peace to everyone.
A Person who believe strictly in Quran, some of them accept only hadiths that agree with Quran and reject hadiths that disagree with the Quran, and some others reject hadiths entirely
Ali something Muhammad made halal you can’t make it haram if you do you deny Muhammad. Joe you can’t even stop someone marrying a 9 year old if the man said Muhammad did it
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
@@ZDL679 The first, second ,third , fourth ,and fifth generation Muslims only had the Quran. No one ever heard of any hadiths because they only heard the Quran!
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Why are u calling them quranist??????????? They are nakara. Western puppets ignorants who want to play with the interpretations to fit their ideologies ( or i mean their masters ideologies)
If he refuses sahaba interpretations ( which they were the closest people to rassul Allah and its their own language) then to who give the interpretations to nakrani puppet brainwashed by kufar ideologies and have 0 knowledge? Are they even close to sahaba? 🤔🤔
Nakara are not muslims. They are out of islam. Period
Don’t put the word quranist again! We are muslims who believe in quran and sunnah. The divide and conquor machine is always on work shayatin al inss wa al jin. Please! Not again with quranist..
THese people want the reform of islam as their masters told em to do and did to their books and beliefs. They want an islam that fit their masters because islam does not suit their kufr. Reform won’t happen nor we do believe in smth called reform in the deen lol
That man simply is a sign of qiyaamah
Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليهم وسلم) said : lo! Soon a hadith from me will be conveyed to a man, while he is reclining on his couch, and he says: between us and you in Allah's book. So whatever we find in it that is lawful, we consider lawful, and whatever we find in it that is unlawful, we consider it unlawful, indeed whatever the messenger of Allah made unlawful, it is the same as what Allah made unlawful.
REFERENCE: JAMI AT TIRMIDHI 2664
IN BOOK REFERENCE: BOOK 41, HADITH 20
ENGLISH TRANSLATION : VOL.5 BOOK 39, HADITH 2664
@@Binserglupilf2fj jazaka allah khair
Sunnis are a sign of qiyamah. Still bending over for the Saudis while the Saudis still trade & befriend the isrelis while the isrelis commit their crimes against the Philistines
@@Calculator_man اللهم أجمعين ☝️🤲
No he is not. And he is quite right about thousands of fabricated Hadith!
Legend says he's still finishing his Tropicana
Now I know some people can get high on OJ
It's a sign of his nervousness lol
@@omarchikhi2595 what are. You even n talking about?
@@omarchikhi2595 u r full of it fr
You can make jokes or comical comments without inventing lies - part of the good etiquettes of Muslims is to avoid joking if joking consists of being untruthful
He studied hard, but he failed his exam. May Allah guide him, guide us.
@@omarchikhi2595 How is that a problem? Millions of people know arabic around the world, they accept The Qur'an and Hadith. They trust Allah, His prophet pbuh, the companions of the prophet and the tabi'un (the following generations). And they have an extensive biography on all of these people. Or is the shaytan trying to make up excuses for you to not be on the right path?
@@hamzagayardi498you guys trust and love the companions (humans) the same as you do Allah, and you elevate the words of the companions (humans) to the same level as Allah’s words (Qur’an). This is shirk at the highest and most wicked level. You guys are all disbelievers in Allah. You guys do not believe and have faith that Allah preserved the Qur’an in the way he sees fit. You guys believe the preservation of Qur’an was achieved by the companions (humans) which means you guys do not trust Allah. You guys are all fools. Shia, Sunni, and any one who accepts that Hadith are as authoritative and authentic as Qur’an. Bunch of Kufr. And before you hit me with some dumb ass argument about “hOw dO u pRaY? or hOw mAnY tiMeS dO yOu pRaY?” ALLAH SWT DOES NOT SPECIFY ANY SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIMES TO PRAY OR THE METHODS ON HOW TO PRAY. So the logic follows that the methods of prayer and the frequency of prayer are not fixed by Allah, the way you guys try to fix into 5 prayers and washing and all that other shirk you guys do. What matters to Allah is the sincerity of ones heart when they cry out to him & pray to him. We can pray all day long if we like, its not fixed to 5 times. You are disbelievers with not a single ounce of faith in Allah.
@@hamzagayardi498 That is not a good argument. Majority and minority is not sign of truth of falsehood. Majority people are in wrong (Quran 6:116)
@@subilabi Who's talking about majority or minority ? You, not me. That was not my argument, but rather words you tried putting in my mouth. Hopefully, you only misread my comment, and it was not intentional from your part.
Also, the comment I responded to have already been deleted, so I advise you to know the context before coming to conclusion about what my argument is about, which in this case would be hard to know because of the initial comment not being here anymore.
Basically for the so called "quranists", I would say to them that they are not true followers The Qur'an.
Qur'an 24:54 : _"Say, “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then he is only responsible for his duty and you are responsible for yours. And if you obey him, you will be ˹rightly˺ guided. The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver ˹the message˺ clearly.”"_ .
Qur'an 24:56 : _"Moreover, establish prayer, pay alms-tax, and obey the Messenger, so you may be shown mercy."_
And there many many other verses in which Allah clearly orders us to follow the messenger pbuh. Them "quranists" not following the authentic Hadiths is going against the command of Allah in the Qur'an.
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Never knew you can get high on tropicana.
Blood sugar issues makes him drunk?
Asalamualaikum. Poor brother has no control over his waswas. Look how shaitan is making him look...
😂😂😂. WASWAS? because he believes in the book of God. Why should I seek other than God as a judged when he sent down to me this book detailed
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Man this guy
You have to be sooo patient May Allah SWT guide him and all of us and make us proud to be followers of Quran and Sunnah and Sahih Hadith
Alhumdu lillah for Hadith
Do you consider Bukhari a prophet? and do you take his words as revelation?
The timing of this video couldnt be better.
@omarchikhi2595 the quraniyoon are in full force targeting new reverts/people close to reverting on RUclips. For example grayson brock.
@@bigbosss7911cry about it. MuhsmamdromGod challenges you Sunni sectarians, go and challange if you can. Also challange bush2g9
@@bigbosss7911go discuss with MuhammadfromGod if your not a coward than. He hosts challenges against everyone who opposes the book of God
@@bigbosss7911ye and we’re gonna keep coming cope I debated Ali dawah and showed him example where the Quran is more strict. It’s not about morality it’s about objectivity. You guys paint your self as a chad religion of Sunnis. Read bukhari 1847b and you’ll realize Sunnisisim is a beta religion.
The only chad and true religion is ISLAM and you guys haven’t been following that keep coping 16:44, 4:59 and hikmah verses won’t work on us we have refuated all your points I recommend correctional officer on RUclips and I have came to these conclusions before them. My ignorance made me have whispers of joining back Sunnisism. When I became stronger in knowledge of the Quran I become closer to Quran alone and Allah even confirmed things for me through signs. Look at Muhammad from god new short they kicked him off from debate with hamzaden. You guys can run but you can’t hide we’re gonna keep coming if you guys run away then we will steal your dawah spotlight then you will be forced to face us
Hahahaha did RUclips delete my comment 😂 that was enough proof
When a man talks fast and does not allow a response he is scared of answers. Look at him shaking all over and sipping juice fast, his body language tells he wants to pull a fast one on Bro. Ali... His deception shows clearly.
I think he's actually making a serious point that this is how the messages from God gets corrupted and I fully understand him
😊 This is such a powerful message. Thank you for sharing your perspective.
Those who have to shout, have nothing to speak
There is plenty of footage of Ali shouting and screaming....be consistent at least.
The Hadith about I a living apostates is the biggest one that contradicts the Ayana about no compulsion in Islam. May Allah have mercy on the believers and guide us ❤
Look into the details in the sharia for what happens with apostasy and you will see you it is not compulsion in terms of religion. Look up the topic on Muslim lantern channel
OMG, he talks for 15 minutes more than I talked for 3 years
May Allah guide them 😢
I really enjoyed watching your video! It's so inspiring to see someone like you sharing your story 😮❤
@@omarchikhi2595 yeah fake and false myths! You’re just another uneducated, idiot, educate yourself before you talk, bro!
Take u and ur 8 subscribers somewhere else. Stop spreading hate and go look in the mirror, bro and check yourself, Omar!
May Allah the Almighty guide him and his family to the truth and right 'Aqeedah belief at the most ideal timing. Ameen
Subhanallah does he pray five daily prayers n how he does it may almighty Allah guide him n all the ummah with the love of our beloved prophet Mohammed s a.w
May Allah SWT soften his heart
I think when this man talks his wife would find an excuse to run away. Usually is the other way around 😂.
What are going to say this fools to Allah swt? I totally don't understand them for rejecting hadith.
هذه رسالة قوية. شكرا لتقاسم وجهة نظرك
The problem was that he forced them because he was a warrior at that time.
1 simple question. Answering not the question but only telling which has nothing to do with the question.
that tropicana was dangerous
don't listen someone who don't respect other's
His tropicanna is mixed with the bad stuff
Anas bin Malik narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said:
"Whoever asks Allah (s.w.t) Paradise three times, Paradise says: 'O Allah, admit him into Paradise', and whoever seeks refuge from the Fire three times, the Fire says: 'O Allah, save him from the Fire.'"
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2572
Grade: Sahih
Why is it he trusts the people who recorded all these battles but not the companions who heard it saw the prophet do something
believe me bro, he's not angry, it's just the way they talk, it's loud. learning Arabic and chatting with local Arabs scared me for the first time. it's like a fight but it's a normal conversation. My heart is burning and it takes courage.😂 It's funny when I recall it. I step back a little in front of the old uncle.
but it's not like this guy right he doesn't respect the discussion
im arab n no hes trippin
Arabs truly sound insane
@@omarchikhi2595 Exactly brother, we Algerians are Amazigh/Berbers and not Arabs. 🇩🇿ⵣ
When a quranist says peace and and blessings be upon the prophet, then where does he get that from, that he should say that when the prophet is mentioned????
5:47 -
And let the People of the Gospel JUDGE by what Allāh has REVEALED THEREIN. AND WHOEVER DOES NOT JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED - then it is those who are the DEFIANTLY DISOBEDIENT.
45:6
These are Allah’s revelations which We recite to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth. So what Hadith will they believe in after ˹denying˺ Allah and His revelations?
5:49 -
And judge, [O Muḥammad], between them by what Allāh has revealed and do not follow their inclinations and beware of them, lest they tempt you away from some of what Allāh has revealed to you.
The man won , Ali dawah is lost 😂
Here is 1 contradiction between Quran and Hadith:
The event of first revelation is mentioned in Quran in the beginning of surah najm!
The event of first revelation mentioned in Hadith is different from what’s in surah najm!
Do you have a reference I would like to research.
Reference
It's an established principle that any hadith that contradicts the Quran is rejected
@@ZDL679 Check out Ghamidi's Quranic translation in either English or Urdu!
@@mfvohra101 Hadith
This is the problem the caption is not right. Enlighten people with your platform and stop seeking validation
This is what makes me dislike muslim then don't believe with Islam 15years ago
seeing muslim attitude, the way they talk/ move/ look
Amin. May Allah give you Janna brother Ali
this man is just creating doubts in our hearts thats all
People that want to change the meaning of revaluation don’t accept the hadit. Maybe he does not want to pray 5x a day or fast during Ramadan so they choose not the believe in Hadit. These people try to justify their desires by falsifying scripture.
the audio is delayed?
ali dawah when are u coming to pakistan
Brother why I cannot donate from canada?
Some people will say to you, “I am the Messiah!” Other people will say, “I am a prophet from God.” But their words will be false. They will do strange and powerful things for people to see. If possible, they would even deceive the people that God has chosen.
He's not insecure English is just not his first language but he's completely comprehensible.
He sniffed to much pyramid powder.
He's definitely not egyptian 😂
@@s0nFPS I am not an Arab and he is looking like an Egyptian. But doesnt matter bro where sniffers are coming from. They all get paranoid.
😂😂😂
i wonder wats mixed in that orange juice 😅
Vodka maybe some tequila mixed with whiskey 😂
I think his point is that the hadiths are as suspect to vilification or rewording as the Torah and injeel are but the Quran is protected and promised to be protected.
@@afaangrewal1427 I mean this is why Hadith are given different ranking depending on how reliable they are this based on the lines of narrations.
@@ZDL679 It's a good and honest system and practice, I believe in following the Sunnah and wish I could have been there to witness it myself as I recognise that it's possible for more than 7 people to collude together in the same lie also - it's one of those things, it's important to use the mind Allah gave you to not be shy or blind when seeking truth.
@@afaangrewal1427 I don’t want to talk more cause I might have bias but I can recommend a video so you can learn more about Hadith sciences.
@@omarchikhi2595 try the sheikh uthman ibn farooq with @bobby’sperspective video I know they did talked about it in mosque if you have trouble I’ll try and find it for you.
@@omarchikhi2595 tell me if I’m wrong but don’t the dead sea scrolls have a like 1000 year gap from the time of Moses pbuh. As the bible really what should we start the contradictions or the terrible lines of narrations.
When a beard guy starts telling you BROTHER ...just run away
He must have vodka or whiskey maybe even Tequila in his Tropicana juice carton 😂
That guy is one million percent Moroccan 😂😂😂🇲🇦
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
It is better to advise the guy to start a youtubechannel in stead of yelling keep talking. There he can talk and as much as he can.
@omarchikhi2595 Yeah sure. If you want to believe that way.
To the hadithyoon, can you come up with one verse in Quran that says follow the sunnah of prophet Muhammad and also one verse that refers to any secondary books outside of the Qur'an as hadiths to be used for guidance?
One verse for each to support yoir claims. Let's see.
And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path.
Ash-Shura 52
Say, [O Muhammad], “If you should love Allah, then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
Aale Imran 31
@@alkazmi02 What does that verse mean? Explain it if you understand.
@@RyanX1899 @ريانX1899 O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad), and Ulil Amri (the authority) among you. Then, if you differ in opinion about something, then return it to Allah (the Qur'an) and the Messenger (His Sunnah), if you believe in Allah and the Last Day.
Surah An Nisa verse 59
@@RyanX1899in the verse stated that if the ummah has very many different opinions, go back to quran and sunnah....
@@RyanX1899the action and tradition of the prophet peace be upon him
What religion was Ali before?
As a Muslim I always doubt the Hadith why in our prophet time no one wrote Hadith , and they were roots of Islam they were very smart ?
What are you talking about? Do you even know when our first collection of hadith was compiled?
They wrote the hadith for later generations like us, why would they need it for themselves when they were literally in the presence of the prophet himself.
@@sumayaraise some of the first Hadith we're written down in the time of the third Caliphate Uthmaan Ibn Affan, who encouraged this practice, scholars of Hadith later meticulously authenticated hadith ensuring that they had sound chains of Narration and every person in that chain was trustworthy.
Lol
Ur ignorance is the cause. Nakara are clear apostate. Period!
There won’t be reform of islam. Islam in here and forever. So ur masters reform won’t happens even if we die for this deen. Bunch of secularists want to an islam that fit imperialist powers. Ie kufar.
Ignorance is fatal
God sent Quran for us to follow not hadiths and our dear prophet told Us to follow the Quran. This why we Muslims have so many sects and divisions. Shias have thier own Hadiths And sunnies have theirs Hadith is not our holy book but Quran is .
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
@@omarchikhi2595 so how do you know the teachings of prophet peace be upon him like the Quran commands no offence bro but r u an expect in Hadith sciences neither am I but edited or compiled like the Quran was after the prophet’s death pbuh the Hadith give us lines of narrations going back to companions of the prophet peace be upon we would find inconsistencies within those lines if they were false which some do exist but that’s why we have different types narrations authentic, reliable, weak and fabricated. In addition, to the prophecies about the war of Persian and Roman “but those were two biggest empire at the time” okay women will be clothed but naked Saheeh Muslim 2128 (go to the gym and look at what some girl wear)
I've seen some discussions but honestly this one is by now the worst. The way he cannot control himself trying to prove his unprovable points is beyond me. Ya Allah guide this man and all the Quranists for they are surely a bit lost.
Why are the hadeeths so chaotic and demonic in comparison to the Qu'ran though ? And is Allah swt really going to throw someone in hell for believing in the Qu'ran without the hadeeths ? When he himself told us to follow it alone ?
Wny do you believe Allah told us not to follow the prophet pbuh?
There is no Authenticated Hadith which is demonic, the only demonic thing is what you are saying, you are rejecting the way of Rasulullah as Allah has commanded in the Qur'an, Ironic that Quranists go against clear teachings of the Qur'an
“two rak'ahs before fajr prayer are better than all that this world contains.”
So chaotic and demonic are the sunnah right?
@@YahyaTheSinani You know what's even more crazy, Quranists don't even believe in making Istinjah before they pray or touch the Qur'an, now that's demonic by definition 🤢
@@YahyaTheSinani what about child marriage , stoning for adultery, drinking camel piss , sex slaves , adult breastfeeding , death penalty for apostates, antidote on fly's wings, Qu'ran missing verses, stories of prophet Muhammed (pbuh) sucking on 6yo Aisha's tongue , forcing a women to marry him after she called him ugly , tearing a women apart with 2 horses running in opposite directions and there's alot more if you want . To me this looks like something made by the Devil to make Islam look bad , it's really against human fitrah . Only the Qu'ran brought me closer to Allah .
Quran came to us through the same Muslims that transmitted the hadith. This is the point Ali dawah is trying to make however this is not a valid argument and a moot point. I cannot say about other Quranists but for myself I don't believe in Quran because it was brought to me by the same Muslims or my forefathers transferred it to me, I believe in it because it spoke to me as a word of Allah(God) and because Quran is its own proof. Allah says in the Quran that if it was from anyone else other then Allah then you would find a lot of discrepancies in it. So i read it and never found any discrepancies unlike the so called authentic hadiths that are full of discrepancies and multiple conflicting testimonies and stupid things like drinking camel urine etc. So to say that we should also believe in Hadith because they were transmitted by the same people that transmitted Quran is not a valid argument because Quranists believe in Quran due to its own merits and not because it came to us from someone. It does not matter where it came from or who transferred it or even if it dropped from heaven, the point is we believe in Quran because it claims to be word of God and we believe it.
I do have a question, in the war of gamal aisha fought her own brother mohamad ibn abu bakr who was stating ali is the chalipha, so that makes mohamad ibn abu bkr Shia, also muawiya army killed ammr ibn yasser who the prophet said will be on the side of the truth, how do sunni describe or view this? How do you debate this fact?
Your a rafidi shia your basically a Hindu. Go learn how to read al fatiha. And learn Arabic. The shia of kufa that betrayed and killed. You have no point.
but the guy is right though, look how many hadiths there how Prophet pbuh could say all this in his life? His prophethood started when he was 40 and ended when he died at 63, 23 years = 8395 days, and how many hadiths are there? And how did they documented it 200 years after? Obviously many of them are doubtful and should be analyzed.
@@0xusernamenotfound they already have I recommend you listen to sheikh uthman ibn farooq video about Hadith sciences and decide for yourself if you disagree or agree with the logic may Allah guide all to the right path.
Did bukhari give you the hadith ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jazak Allahu khayr Ali. Your patience inspires me.
This video was minutes 26 minutes now just 16 minutes did u modify it video 😅
Bacha bazi..... Islam and the love of little boys...
and thats propably the best reason for why thought schools in islam exist because people read the all the hadits and have no way to put any of them into context and become like this, or isnt it?
Aah Aisha r.a the prophet Muhammad's best friend, abu bakr r.a daughter imagine the responsibility being with your father in law everyday I'm sure he trusted his daughter with prophet muhammad and would have made sure it wasn't anything bad you.couldn't trust people in them days with your daughter hence his 2 daughters were married to his companions uthman and Ali would he trust them with his daughter also yes. They trusted him with theie daughters so did omar r.a, these were pious people
Huh, Tropicana is alcoholic?😂😂
Can you explain 4:157. Why does allah have to trick the jews. And where was jesus when the fake jesus was being crucified? Because the verse isn't clear at all.. Without the hadith or tufsir can you explain without adding words
Hahah where buraq or 5 prayers in Qur'an sunnis ?
for someone who believes the Quran only and not the ahadith he sure doesnt know how the book came to us lol
Apparently a goat ate a Qur'an verse about stoning and women breast feeding adults according to your filthy hadith books.🤦♂️
Your mushrik books have nothing to do with the Prophet Muhammad. Works of corruptors and storytellers.
You're here to please the messenger??
I don’t reject Hadith but only those Hadith which goes against or no connection from Quran
It's better to compare the hadith with the modern history books.
It gives us a window on how the first followers interpret the Qur'an, that doesn't mean that their are no mistakes or falsification in it. It means that we can never put the hadith in the same importance as the Qur'an, and those that do that are misguided.
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
He is drinking packaged juice.
Mashallah
Should tell him how you are praying and how you are going to hajj and doing the Rituals if he doesn’t believe in sona 😂😂
@@omarchikhi2595 I don't know what it means in English
@@omarchikhi2595sunnah
amarra...What has a natural crystal spring washing baths routine got to do with Hadiths
I think he is not normal guy, may be mental???
Like if the man’s way of talking triggered you
Hadith is wrong !
Which one?
@@commandar88 too many for insistence alcohol
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
@thaairal-khairulla3299 yeah weak hadith for example are false
@@commandar88 what ?
The ironic thing that whenever I debate or interact with ‘Quranists’ , it is the Sunnis who respect , read, recite with tajweed , understand , apply and memorize the Quran far more than these so called Quranists.
@@omarchikhi2595 What lie?
@@omarchikhi2595 Check yourself and read authentic hadiths
How does these Quranists know how to perform the prayer, the movements of the prayer and the number or raqaas for each prayer etc. And how do they know how much to pay in zakat, because neither of those are described in detail in our Holy Quran, but in the sahih hadiths.
@@omarchikhi2595 but that literally mean that it’s from a hadith because those groups take those information from the prophet peace be upon him what the point you are trying to make? You are describing how the Hadiths are transmits and verified.If you search on Google Hadiths that descride the Prayer it literally show you a book of muslim even gpt agree about that. You are insulting the companions by saying those Kind absurdities all around the comments. You just want to follow your desires by lying you can misgued yourself however you want but do not try to that to others reflect on yourself and how . May Allah bless and guide us to the right path have a good day. And do not try to reply this or start a debate here i won’t answer
@@omarchikhi2595 yes you do find all of this in authentic hadith
Look at it this way. The hadith is a more detailed text than the Quran. So, which is the superior text in terms of completeness?
Rejection of the Hadith is a sign of end times .[sunan Abu Dawud, book 41, Hadith 4587]
Even hadith acceptors don't follow every hadith either, you pick and choose what you like.
Il me faut une traduction pour comprendre
First point Ali made : the hadith have come through the same path as the Qur'an. INCORRECT. The majority of sahih hadith are 'ahad hadith ' meaning only one person witnessed the prophet PBUH saying it. The Qur'an on the other hand was given through the living tradition (father to son, community leader to the people), everywhere continuously. It is THE MOST MASS TRANSMITTED BOOK IN HISTORY because it is verified through every major part of the historic Islamic world. The hadith were compiled by men 200 years after the prophet's death and many are not accepted by the different math'habs and sects. Each sect has their own version of how to follow the guidance. They become sects (Sunnis are a sect ).
Second point: Ali said he accepts that a goat ate the parchment which supposedly had the verse commanding stoning. This IS A CONTRACTION as Allah has given examples of the disbelieving communities who either stoned people or threatened to stone the messengers/prophet's. Please please think why would Allah SWA tell you about disbelievers engaging with stoning and then give a verse commanding the stoning ??? Allah doesn't give guidance like this.
If we all follow one book and one guidance we will all be one people and Iblis will in distress. Salaam and peace to everyone.
What is quranist?
A person who just believes in the Quran and denies our prophets hadiths
Chapter 63 of the quran
@@bigbosss7911 Surat Al munafiqun
actually the term is wrong, they are sunnah deniers, because if they follow the Quran they will follow the sunnah automatically
A Person who believe strictly in Quran, some of them accept only hadiths that agree with Quran and reject hadiths that disagree with the Quran, and some others reject hadiths entirely
I havent met or seen one hadith denier that seems mentally healthy, except the arguments, the talking, thier behaviour is almost mentally ill
@@reomai9576you seem to be a bot account
Assalamualaykum warahamatullah wabarakaatuh
Is He praying Solah at all, if Yes
Then it’s the Hadith that thought us how to Pray
Ali something Muhammad made halal you can’t make it haram if you do you deny Muhammad. Joe you can’t even stop someone marrying a 9 year old if the man said Muhammad did it
This is surely the sign of the times…!!
Exactly what the prophet pbuh predicted.
❤
Soo rude, he didn't let you speak..That man could sit in an empty room and talk to himself all day long
He sounded insane.
Ali has become drunk reading the hadiths and so have you guys who follows the hadiths
We are simply learning the same content as the first, second generation Muslims even before the Sunni Shia stuff the Quran and teachings of the prophet pbuh was the main thing being taught by Muslims.
@@ZDL679 The first, second ,third , fourth ,and fifth generation Muslims only had the Quran. No one ever heard of any hadiths because they only heard the Quran!
You cut talking why you don't keep him talking your very wake man
So much moving and shouting, and such a weak belief. Who is this guy, and so much frustration?
ALI .. Why did you call him brother !?
Since when did emotional blabbering become rational argument? He'd have done Christian missionaries prooud.
Definitely massary and sects complexities person from hind region they are the same 🤡