Excellent interview Vanessa... Like most landlords, I would never evict unless I absolutely had to and have only done so twice... in both cases for continued and ongoing rent arrears. And I love your comment regarding not liking the "Them & Us" way we are portrayed... I feel the same way. :-/
I have only once in 20 years over many properties issued a S21 on a tenant ( other than ones who have said they are going and I wanted to make sure they meant it) That was to a tenant who was seriously upsetting the other people in the block , basically his behaviour was no skin off my nose as he paid the rent didn't seem to damage the place and I don't live in the block . So my personal experience if there was no S21would have been third parties suffering . Having said that the loss of peace of mind that I won't be able to get my property's back is making me think I will sell up
An interesting interview. The truth is, as pointed out, landlords don't want to evict tenants, they need them renting their properties! The only time a landlord will evict is because of a serious breach. This is the latest in a series of regulations being imposed that will impact honourable landlords but will have very little affect on the dishonest ones.
It would be great if you could join our actual discussion which now has over 83 comments! www.propertytribes.com/government-announce-dilution-of-section-21-t-127639779.html
Rent arrears is a mandatory ground in Section 8, plus you can get a money order. Why would you use Section 21 instead? (But of course Section 21 is important in many other aspects)
Section 8 takes too long to process through the courts. Once a tenant falls into arrears the council will not provide them housing unless they get evicted. To get a tenant evicted you need an order from the court. You cant just remove anyone without the court order. With section 8 by the time it goes through the court it could take a minimum of 8 months. And thats also wishful thinking. By then 8 month worth of rent would not have been paid.
@@jatanshah5260 Section 8 can definitely be faster than section 21 (but not always) in case of rent arrears. Section 8 notice can be served as soon as the tenant has rent arrears worth two month rent (which is just one month plus a day since the tenant last missed his payment) and section 8 only requires 14 days of notice. So that is a total of 6 weeks and 1 day before you can apply for a court hearing (in comparison to the 8 weeks required by section 21 notice), plus you can get a money order！A court hearing for section 8 can be granted within 4 weeks after submitting the documents (in comparison to the 4-week accelerated section 21 process). But of course, there is the uncertainty of whether you can win the case or not. But the benefit is that you can get a money order to pursue your debt, which you do not get with the accelerated section 21 process.
@@mortonlv3490 Yes the tenant needs to be in 2 month rent arrears at the time of notice for s8 and hearing. So a tenant who wants to play games could pay up closer to the hearing and then diwndle down the same spiral again and you would have to hand over notice again!
@@jatanshah5260 Not if you specifically mention that you do not accept partial payment, and refund to the tenant's bank account if the rent is paid partially.
Section 21- not going to be abolished 56% landlords Landlords can Not abolishment of S21 Dilution Game is changing Late paying tenants Will be Government encouraging longer term tenancies For some landlords S21 will remain and openended tenancies Consultations for S21 Rebalancing Fergus Wilson- Panorama programme - Horrible landlord with loads of money. Don’t want void and refurbish costs.
@Sunny Days robbi rob I don't think either of you know much about letting out property , internal decoration and all repairs due to routine maintenance are down to the Landlord , damage beyond normal wear and tear is down to the Tenant . And you can still evict people using S21 it has not yet been abolished . However if you don't do things correctly like supply gas safety , register if the council require it or fail to protect the tenants deposit - you can't
@Sunny Days Evidently Your are a Liar ( or should be sacked ) Tenants are not responsible for redecoration under ant assured shorthold tenancy agreement valid in English law
Obviously they would not ( unless they wished to sell or move in themselves , which is supposedly still to be grounds foe eviction ) So this is simply a charter for bad tenants to take your property , I am not going to continue myself I never would have invested if it hadn't been for the 1988 act that allowed my to ultimately keep control of my property , this really stinks and will benefit nobody in the end
Section 21 was horrible, medieval and feudalistic threat and intimidating weapon used by landlords in UK. It was a massive loophole in the law that landlord abused for decades and it made so many people homeless everyday. It is great to see the end of this medieval law.
Can you share a link to the statistics where S21 made millions homeless? For what it is worth, I have been a landlord for 15 years, and only used S21 4 times (each time due to rent arrears) and none of my tenants became homeless as a result because they stayed on in the property until bailiffs arrived and then they got council accommodation. Now they won't have that option, so removing S21 will INCREASE homelessness as the council can refuse to house them.
Section 21 is a short notice that does not give the tenant enough time to find alternative accommodation, besides, section 21 has always been used as a weapon to intimidate tenants and make them compromise their rights. Tenants are afraid of making complaints about the condition of the house etc lest the landlord serves them section 21. Councils housing departments is full of tenants who are served with section 21 notice facing homeless. Section 21 was a medieval type of feudalistic tool for exploiting the poor tenants and it good to see it scrapped.
@@kevinwellwrought2024 So you don't have any figures then, just rhetoric? Section 21 is two months notice, landlords only get one month's notice that the tenant wishes to leave. I have never used S21 to intimidate a tenant, and, if it was used, the tenant should report the landlord to the local authority. You should also get yourself up to speed with Retaliatory Eviction law before making further inaccurate statements. Perhaps also have a read of this : speyejoe2.wordpress.com/2019/04/15/ban-no-fault-evictions-why-this-is-dangerously-worse-for-all-renters/
As can be already seen some landlords have attitude and inclined to using intimidation that the medieval section 21 afforded to them. Huge number of tenants were intimidated and exploited by unscrupulous landlords over a couple of decades and had to make do with poor quality housing condition and suffer in silence and they hardly dared to complain about their landlords for fear of section 21. Also, letting agencies were making huge profit from using section 21 as a threat weapon for increasing the rent all the time. Government as its next step must also crack down on those letting agencies who refuse to provide tenants with assured tenancy agreement or refuse to accept vulnerable tenants. I will provide the list of letting agencies malpractices to the government such as using Landlord’s Letter instead of Asssured Shorthold Tenancy agreements, charging admin fee, letting out properties to multiple occupants (shared accommodation) for bigger profit, refusing to accept DSS tenants and a host of other malpractices.
Excellent interview Vanessa... Like most landlords, I would never evict unless I absolutely had to and have only done so twice... in both cases for continued and ongoing rent arrears. And I love your comment regarding not liking the "Them & Us" way we are portrayed... I feel the same way. :-/
make a criminal offence to trash a property 😈😈😈
every piece of Legislation is against the Landlords 😠😠
I have only once in 20 years over many properties issued a S21 on a tenant ( other than ones who have said they are going and I wanted to make sure they meant it) That was to a tenant who was seriously upsetting the other people in the block , basically his behaviour was no skin off my nose as he paid the rent didn't seem to damage the place and I don't live in the block . So my personal experience if there was no S21would have been third parties suffering . Having said that the loss of peace of mind that I won't be able to get my property's back is making me think I will sell up
You can tell there aren't many politicians in the property business! Otherwise they wouldn't be so against landlords
there is No protection for Landlords 😈
An interesting interview. The truth is, as pointed out, landlords don't want to evict tenants, they need them renting their properties! The only time a landlord will evict is because of a serious breach. This is the latest in a series of regulations being imposed that will impact honourable landlords but will have very little affect on the dishonest ones.
It would be great if you could join our actual discussion which now has over 83 comments!
www.propertytribes.com/government-announce-dilution-of-section-21-t-127639779.html
any contract must be fair both ways ! for Landlords including 😈
Tory just lost 1 million voters 😅😅
where is the protection agains the professional bad Tenants 😨😨
Rent arrears is a mandatory ground in Section 8, plus you can get a money order. Why would you use Section 21 instead? (But of course Section 21 is important in many other aspects)
Section 8 takes too long to process through the courts. Once a tenant falls into arrears the council will not provide them housing unless they get evicted. To get a tenant evicted you need an order from the court. You cant just remove anyone without the court order. With section 8 by the time it goes through the court it could take a minimum of 8 months. And thats also wishful thinking. By then 8 month worth of rent would not have been paid.
@@jatanshah5260 Section 8 can definitely be faster than section 21 (but not always) in case of rent arrears. Section 8 notice can be served as soon as the tenant has rent arrears worth two month rent (which is just one month plus a day since the tenant last missed his payment) and section 8 only requires 14 days of notice. So that is a total of 6 weeks and 1 day before you can apply for a court hearing (in comparison to the 8 weeks required by section 21 notice), plus you can get a money order！A court hearing for section 8 can be granted within 4 weeks after submitting the documents (in comparison to the 4-week accelerated section 21 process). But of course, there is the uncertainty of whether you can win the case or not. But the benefit is that you can get a money order to pursue your debt, which you do not get with the accelerated section 21 process.
@@mortonlv3490 Yes the tenant needs to be in 2 month rent arrears at the time of notice for s8 and hearing. So a tenant who wants to play games could pay up closer to the hearing and then diwndle down the same spiral again and you would have to hand over notice again!
@@jatanshah5260 Not if you specifically mention that you do not accept partial payment, and refund to the tenant's bank account if the rent is paid partially.
@@mortonlv3490 thanks learnt something new!
Is there a date when S21 will be diluted or abolished.
No, its all up in the air!
Clement Okusi soon
Section 21- not going to be abolished
56% landlords
Landlords can
Not abolishment of S21
Dilution
Game is changing
Late paying tenants
Will be
Government encouraging longer term tenancies
For some landlords
S21 will remain and openended tenancies
Consultations for S21
Rebalancing
Fergus Wilson- Panorama programme - Horrible landlord with loads of money.
Don’t want void and refurbish costs.
Nice video, but you need to get 2 microphones!
Why don't they just extend sec 21 to 3 months
then Tenants should be responsible for all repairs excepting structural ones !! 😈😈
@Sunny Days robbi rob I don't think either of you know much about letting out property , internal decoration and all repairs due to routine maintenance are down to the Landlord , damage beyond normal wear and tear is down to the Tenant . And you can still evict people using S21 it has not yet been abolished . However if you don't do things correctly like supply gas safety , register if the council require it or fail to protect the tenants deposit - you can't
@Sunny Days Evidently Your are a Liar ( or should be sacked ) Tenants are not responsible for redecoration under ant assured shorthold tenancy agreement valid in English law
@Sunny Days Nope - So go away you are clueless I explained the situation Mr '' Letting agent '' LOL
why a Landlord will evict a good tenant ???? 😨😨
Obviously they would not ( unless they wished to sell or move in themselves , which is supposedly still to be grounds foe eviction ) So this is simply a charter for bad tenants to take your property , I am not going to continue myself I never would have invested if it hadn't been for the 1988 act that allowed my to ultimately keep control of my property , this really stinks and will benefit nobody in the end
I will never vote for Tory .... ever 😈😈
so 1 year contract = infinite term 😨😨😨
Section 21 was horrible, medieval and feudalistic threat and intimidating weapon used by landlords in UK. It was a massive loophole in the law that landlord abused for decades and it made so many people homeless everyday. It is great to see the end of this medieval law.
Can you share a link to the statistics where S21 made millions homeless? For what it is worth, I have been a landlord for 15 years, and only used S21 4 times (each time due to rent arrears) and none of my tenants became homeless as a result because they stayed on in the property until bailiffs arrived and then they got council accommodation. Now they won't have that option, so removing S21 will INCREASE homelessness as the council can refuse to house them.
Section 21 is a short notice that does not give the tenant enough time to find alternative accommodation, besides, section 21 has always been used as a weapon to intimidate tenants and make them compromise their rights. Tenants are afraid of making complaints about the condition of the house etc lest the landlord serves them section 21. Councils housing departments is full of tenants who are served with section 21 notice facing homeless. Section 21 was a medieval type of feudalistic tool for exploiting the poor tenants and it good to see it scrapped.
@@kevinwellwrought2024 So you don't have any figures then, just rhetoric? Section 21 is two months notice, landlords only get one month's notice that the tenant wishes to leave. I have never used S21 to intimidate a tenant, and, if it was used, the tenant should report the landlord to the local authority. You should also get yourself up to speed with Retaliatory Eviction law before making further inaccurate statements.
Perhaps also have a read of this : speyejoe2.wordpress.com/2019/04/15/ban-no-fault-evictions-why-this-is-dangerously-worse-for-all-renters/
As can be already seen some landlords have attitude and inclined to using intimidation that the medieval section 21 afforded to them. Huge number of tenants were intimidated and exploited by unscrupulous landlords over a couple of decades and had to make do with poor quality housing condition and suffer in silence and they hardly dared to complain about their landlords for fear of section 21. Also, letting agencies were making huge profit from using section 21 as a threat weapon for increasing the rent all the time. Government as its next step must also crack down on those letting agencies who refuse to provide tenants with assured tenancy agreement or refuse to accept vulnerable tenants. I will provide the list of letting agencies malpractices to the government such as using Landlord’s Letter instead of Asssured Shorthold Tenancy agreements, charging admin fee, letting out properties to multiple occupants (shared accommodation) for bigger profit, refusing to accept DSS tenants and a host of other malpractices.
Tenants believe its their divine right to live off their landlords and pocket the Housing benefit. Only those tenants will be the ones complaining