I've seen you use that tracer a number of times, Keith, but never knew all that much about exactly how it worked, thank you for explaining! I'm genuinely happy to hear that your shop is so flush with business!
Keith, having you explain how a tool functions and what the capabilities and limitations are is fascinating stuff at least for me. Having no machining background watching you work through how you are going to approach a project and determine the order of operations, the setups required and the tooling necessary. Work holding, fixtures, all the things you have to make to achieve a finished part. To me that is the magic that keeps me coming back for more. Thank you for taking the time to explain how you do what you do.
Although I have watched all of your videos and I watched the ones in which you used and explained the tracer a couple of time I really appreciated this excellent explanation! Thanks.
I love this new format (Sunday notes ) I used to do a lot of duplicating and profiling with a Hydrotell, so I have a basic understanding of the hydraulic tracer, but I wish I had someone like you teaching me when I learned. Great video !!
Spring is here and the boat people are scampering to get ready for the water which makes you a busy boy....good. Better to be hard at it than sitting on you're hands. Thanks for the video.
Hi Keith, nice explanation of the attachment! Sure makes those repetitious jobs so much easier. I received the T slot cleaner, NICE!! It's one thing to watch them being made, it's another to actually hold one and see how well it turned out! Love the engraving & color, and it works great!!!
This video was really interesting, Keith. Thanks for making it. The balance of the brute strength and feather-light touch of the hydraulics is really something.
I love these Sunday notes. I'm learning to walk the walk and talk the talk making my own machine shop. Learning so much from you and a few other guys like Mrpete222, Adam Booth, This Old Tony to name a few. Love what you guys do and the love and lust for machining and learning it. Love watching your work sir, please keep it coming.
Thanks a million Keith! I was just trying to figure out how to use the profiling attachment on my Clausing Colchester 15" X 48" my dad bought in the 60's.
Keith goes to a lot of trouble and expense to show us what he does and how to go about our own jobs, whether that’s an idea on how to approach it or just the attitude we should all have in regards to the pride we take in our workmanship. I for one am wrapt that his workshop is busy because of our support. I hope your making a bloody fortune Keith. You deserve every cent.
I've been curious about your tracer attachment and how it worked. Thanks so much for these Sunday Notes! Now I find myself being curious about how the inner workings of the hydraulic spool valve work on your lathe.
Another great video Keith, thank you. Really enjoying the "Sunday Notes" series. Been a while since I had to use a tracer.. but then its been a while since I stood in front of a lathe. Breakfast looks yummmm... LOL
Glad to hear you are busy. You have worked hard for your success and deserve it. (People seek you out due to your high standards).You are one of my teachers and I hold you in position of esteem and honor similar to those who taught you the ins and outs of Machining. All the Best! -Keith
Awesome to hear the shop is busy! Been watching since the beginning and I think I recall hearing you talk about how the bust of 2008 actually affected you.
Keith I received my T- slot cleaner other day what a beautiful job you did on it, I don't have any T-slots to clean since I retired but I just wanted one that was made by the master machinist which you are.
A tracer can be a tricky beasty for sure. I worked mostly with ones on big boring mills. They were true pattern tracers. 6 and up to 10 ft patterns. Once a friend, Always a friend but when they get ya oh my ! Thanks Keith. Lots of memories came back on this one. Jigs,fixtures and patterns are so well worth the time to make them eh !
Thanks for the tour! Interesting to see how stuff is traced. We dont see much of this type of thing in my NON industrial neighborhood (very little manufacturing)and very few repair shops with this kind of tools.
Yet again a wonderful video especially as i am about to start working with my hydraulic copy attachment on my colchester lathe the only question i have that was not covered was boring with it
I received my t-slot cleaners this week. They're too nice to use on cruddy t slots...lol. They're very well crafted, bordering on jewelry. I did try mine out on my Bridgeport t-slots. Anybody that's thinking about getting one should do so, it's well worth the money.
I remember that rudder project and saying it was a crying shame that it couldn't be covered with a clear housing to be able to see the inside. It was beautiful. I can't afford one but I would have it as a coffee table in my front room lol...
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I have a tracer attachment that I bought for my lathe a few years back and haven't got hooked up yet. There is not a lot of information around about setting up a tracer or operating one.
I started on a Bridgeport 2 headed tracer with an acutrace ? valve. It was great for engraving flames on valve covers and air cleaners. I would sell them on the internet also custom carb spacers,and some hobby parts. Its an art to run and get good results. Replaced it with 2 machining centers ,a CNC mill and cnc router. Still have it in the corner works great if someone wants one CHEAP. No code required.
It’s amazing how many people don’t realize the difference between the rubber outer cover and the actual braided pressure hose that cover protects from abrasions. Great video fine content. People tend to voice uninformed opinions rather than put in the effort to research what it is there talking about After 40 yrs of industrial maintenance I have noticed the trend rather than put in the time to gain experience or research something for their selves they assume they know. And anyone when experience knows what assuming makes of me and you. 👍
A bit salty there partner. Fyi, if the outer skin is pierced, that can be indicative of issues with the inner skin as well. RoT is that you change a hose once that happens because the outer skin is also supposed to provide a dampening force against the motions the inner skin suffers. There's a reason it exists in that form, otherwise, it would be sufficient to have a simple braid with a light non-bonded skin.
aserta Your entitled to your opinion but experience of over 40 yrs says you added your two cents where it wasn’t needed. The hoses in question are what the comments were made regarding. So your rule of thumb does not apply here Best wishes. And your comment proved my point exactly.
Tracer patterns are just that patterns, sometimes called templates as well. Masters are generally complete and perfect replicas of the desired end product, though they can be a different scale than the final product dimensions.
My true-trace book calls them masters, but it is for milling machines. So are you saying if it is 3-d it is a master and if it is 2-d it is a pattern? Of course cam profiles used in cam grinding are masters but they are only 2-d motion so now I am confused. Likely either way someone will know what is being talked about.
Keith, since I'm not a machinist by trade and have no use for the T scraper, can I suggest you make some bottle openers? All you need to do is modify the ends. If fact, I'd pass those out at the bash too. They'll probably get more action! Plus. I bet many of your fans will buy them and out sell the scrapper. Just a friendly suggestion. We need some chicken videos too! Rich
Would it be useful for the stylus to be the same shape as your cutting tool. That way the produced part would be exactly the same as the original within the capability of the tool shape?
Likely someone over pressurized that gauge and it bent the ring inside. I've had it happen on my pump some years ago. Nothing big, Where it's at is the new zero.
Thx for giving me a clue on the tracer Keith, i have gotten into your videos for sure !! and i've learned alot so far, does a lathe have to come the the t slot for the centers to run in or were they a add on to your lathe? thx
Keith mentions that folks email him from time to time. Where does one find the link to get to him? Keep in mind that I am just an old marine wrench and not computer savy.
Wow, that was really interesting,thanks! I have a question, could you flip the cutter over and run in reverse rather than flipping the part over? Thanks again for a good video. Tim
I'm not a machinist but could you explain what you mean when your taking so much of a cut per side how can you take a cut per side when the material is round
I have to say I love your videos. But I could use your help. I'm looking for a good used small lathe. It don't need to be fancy. Any help would be much appreciated thank you
I've seen you use that tracer a number of times, Keith, but never knew all that much about exactly how it worked, thank you for explaining! I'm genuinely happy to hear that your shop is so flush with business!
I spend most of my time repairing CNC equipment and it still fascinates me learning more about the old ways.
Keith, having you explain how a tool functions and what the capabilities and limitations are is fascinating stuff at least for me.
Having no machining background watching you work through how you are going to approach a project and determine the order of operations, the setups required and the tooling necessary. Work holding, fixtures, all the things you have to make to achieve a finished part. To me that is the magic that keeps me coming back for more. Thank you for taking the time to explain how you do what you do.
One of my favorite projects, where the tracer is used, is Broken beaver.
Nice radiuses, and Keith really shows how to get it done.
Although I have watched all of your videos and I watched the ones in which you used and explained the tracer a couple of time I really appreciated this excellent explanation! Thanks.
I love this new format (Sunday notes ) I used to do a lot of duplicating and profiling with a Hydrotell, so I have a basic understanding of the hydraulic tracer, but I wish I had someone like you teaching me when I learned. Great video !!
Spring is here and the boat people are scampering to get ready for the water which makes you a busy boy....good. Better to be hard at it than sitting on you're hands. Thanks for the video.
Hi Keith, nice explanation of the attachment! Sure makes those repetitious jobs so much easier. I received the T slot cleaner, NICE!! It's one thing to watch them being made, it's another to actually hold one and see how well it turned out! Love the engraving & color, and it works great!!!
This video was really interesting, Keith. Thanks for making it. The balance of the brute strength and feather-light touch of the hydraulics is really something.
I love these Sunday notes. I'm learning to walk the walk and talk the talk making my own machine shop. Learning so much from you and a few other guys like Mrpete222, Adam Booth, This Old Tony to name a few. Love what you guys do and the love and lust for machining and learning it. Love watching your work sir, please keep it coming.
Thank you Ken! Cheers, ;{)------
What.....you didn't name Keith Rucker.........lol
Trigger Flying I can't name them all, but old man Keith Rucker and Oxtools Tom, Joe Pie lol
Been a lot of years since I ran a tracer. Enjoyable refresher.
Thanks a million Keith! I was just trying to figure out how to use the profiling attachment on my Clausing Colchester 15" X 48" my dad bought in the 60's.
Keith goes to a lot of trouble and expense to show us what he does and how to go about our own jobs, whether that’s an idea on how to approach it or just the attitude we should all have in regards to the pride we take in our workmanship. I for one am wrapt that his workshop is busy because of our support. I hope your making a bloody fortune Keith. You deserve every cent.
Amazing amount of creative energy displayed.also love the flag.Thank's
I've been curious about your tracer attachment and how it worked. Thanks so much for these Sunday Notes! Now I find myself being curious about how the inner workings of the hydraulic spool valve work on your lathe.
Another great video Keith, thank you. Really enjoying the "Sunday Notes" series. Been a while since I had to use a tracer.. but then its been a while since I stood in front of a lathe. Breakfast looks yummmm... LOL
Glad to hear you are busy. You have worked hard for your success and deserve it. (People seek you out due to your high standards).You are one of my teachers and I hold you in position of esteem and honor similar to those who taught you the ins and outs of Machining. All the Best! -Keith
Awesome to hear the shop is busy! Been watching since the beginning and I think I recall hearing you talk about how the bust of 2008 actually affected you.
I really like the way your shop always looks. Clean ! Thanks for the video
That is no doubt a very cool and probably by now even more, a very rare machine!
Thanks for the tour..
Razor!
excellent video Keith!
Glad to hear the shop is busy Keith!
Thank you for taking the time to make these types videos. Very educational and informative, excellent. Thanks again. JD in MO
Keith I received my T- slot cleaner other day what a beautiful job you did on it, I don't have any T-slots to clean since I retired but I just wanted one that was made by the master machinist which you are.
A tracer can be a tricky beasty for sure. I worked mostly with ones on big boring mills. They were true pattern tracers. 6 and up to 10 ft patterns. Once a friend, Always a friend but when they get ya oh my ! Thanks Keith. Lots of memories came back on this one. Jigs,fixtures and patterns are so well worth the time to make them eh !
Hyd tracer is very cool, anyone who hasn`t seen Kieth`s older videos really needs to! Take care
Thanks for the tour! Interesting to see how stuff is traced. We dont see much of this type of thing in my NON industrial neighborhood (very little manufacturing)and very few repair shops with this kind of tools.
Vanessa is a gem, you better take good care of her. Any woman who still delivers a hot breakfast should be treasured.
Hi Keith
I am very delighted to hear that the shop is busy! After your family of course your business has to come first! :-)
warm regards
vic
Yet again a wonderful video especially as i am about to start working with my hydraulic copy attachment on my colchester lathe the only question i have that was not covered was boring with it
I received my t-slot cleaners this week. They're too nice to use on cruddy t slots...lol. They're very well crafted, bordering on jewelry. I did try mine out on my Bridgeport t-slots. Anybody that's thinking about getting one should do so, it's well worth the money.
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I remember that rudder project and saying it was a crying shame that it couldn't be covered with a clear housing to be able to see the inside. It was beautiful. I can't afford one but I would have it as a coffee table in my front room lol...
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I have a tracer attachment that I bought for my lathe a few years back and haven't got hooked up yet. There is not a lot of information around about setting up a tracer or operating one.
Keith i watch your video's to the end all the time. Thank you for the walk around. Stay safe.
Dear Mr. Fenner, or Hey Fenner - excellent as usual - FENNERIZED!
Good video glad the shop is going strong.
Very interesting video. Glad to learn that you have lots of jobs. Thanks Keith!
I started on a Bridgeport 2 headed tracer with an acutrace ? valve. It was great for engraving flames on valve covers and air cleaners. I would sell them on the internet also custom carb spacers,and some hobby parts. Its an art to run and get good results. Replaced it with 2 machining centers ,a CNC mill and cnc router. Still have it in the corner works great if someone wants one CHEAP. No code required.
I've been waiting for this one. That hydraulic tracer is pretty dam cool! Thanks Keith
I always wondered what that stuff on your samurai rack was ......... Keith you're the best
Fascinating tool. Thanks Keith!
Cool video Keith 👍
Great instalment Keith. Can’t wait for the next one. Thanks
Very good expiation of how our tracer attachment works.
It’s amazing how many people don’t realize the difference between the rubber outer cover and the actual braided pressure hose that cover protects from abrasions. Great video fine content.
People tend to voice uninformed opinions rather than put in the effort to research what it is there talking about After 40 yrs of industrial maintenance I have noticed the trend rather than put in the time to gain experience or research something for their selves they assume they know. And anyone when experience knows what assuming makes of me and you. 👍
not a bad thing a good reminder to double check yourself
A bit salty there partner. Fyi, if the outer skin is pierced, that can be indicative of issues with the inner skin as well. RoT is that you change a hose once that happens because the outer skin is also supposed to provide a dampening force against the motions the inner skin suffers. There's a reason it exists in that form, otherwise, it would be sufficient to have a simple braid with a light non-bonded skin.
aserta
Your entitled to your opinion but experience of over 40 yrs says you added your two cents where it wasn’t needed. The hoses in question are what the comments were made regarding. So your rule of thumb does not apply here
Best wishes. And your comment proved my point exactly.
Been waiting for this for years! Thanks!
one small suggestion . . . use a T-slot cleaner tool on that tracer center T-slot . . . i know where you can get one cheap.
More investment in YOUR Shop via Tooling. Very cool capabilities.
So glad to see you post a new video!!!!
Thank you Keith for sharing this information.
I would call your tracer patterns "Masters".
Tracer patterns are just that patterns, sometimes called templates as well. Masters are generally complete and perfect replicas of the desired end product, though they can be a different scale than the final product dimensions.
My true-trace book calls them masters, but it is for milling machines. So are you saying if it is 3-d it is a master and if it is 2-d it is a pattern? Of course cam profiles used in cam grinding are masters but they are only 2-d motion so now I am confused. Likely either way someone will know what is being talked about.
super enjoyed Keith ! thanks for the share ..
fascinating - and I've never even been in the same room as any of this stuff.
Perhaps fouling of the back T slot, might be avoided by using graphite, to allow easier slippage as it shouldn't accumulate filth.
Keith, since I'm not a machinist by trade and have no use for the T scraper, can I suggest you make some bottle openers? All you need to do is modify the ends. If fact, I'd pass those out at the bash too. They'll probably get more action! Plus. I bet many of your fans will buy them and out sell the scrapper. Just a friendly suggestion. We need some chicken videos too!
Rich
I'm 10 years dry and not interested, besides if your to weak to twist it off, your to old to drink! RIGHT! LOL ;{)------
If by chance, I come up with a great design, I would take advantage of all drinker! LOL ;{)-------
To modify one of your phrases- "Work. It's better to be looking at it, than looking for it!"
Lol, the burp at 12:00 minutes is classic
Would it be useful for the stylus to be the same shape as your cutting tool. That way the produced part would be exactly the same as the original within the capability of the tool shape?
I wish I could buy a tracer attachment. Seems like CNC is the usual suggestion when I ask around.
Hello Keith, would you tell me which video editing program you use. Thanks Geoff.
I use power director and Camtasia ;{)-------
could you theoretically cut threads with the tracer?
You can use the tracer to cut threads at a taper, like pipe threads, but to shape the threads with a tracer no! ;{)-----
8:23 - That's just plain mean. I'm still waiting for my dinner!
Keith, can you or have you ever used the tracer to bore a ID profile?
That was amazing, thank you!
Make hay while the sun shines - I can wait for a slow week for a new video!
htral I
That is badass.
Likely someone over pressurized that gauge and it bent the ring inside. I've had it happen on my pump some years ago. Nothing big, Where it's at is the new zero.
Thx for giving me a clue on the tracer Keith, i have gotten into your videos for sure !! and i've learned alot so far, does a lathe have to come the the t slot for the centers to run in or were they a add on to your lathe?
thx
Great video 👍
Keith mentions that folks email him from time to time. Where does one find the link to get to him? Keep in mind that I am just an old marine wrench and not computer savy.
Web site link, found on feature channel page in top header. ;{)-------
Wow, that was really interesting,thanks! I have a question, could you flip the cutter over and run in reverse rather than flipping the part over?
Thanks again for a good video.
Tim
The 30 degree angle would still be the same. ;{)------
I'm not a machinist but could you explain what you mean when your taking so much of a cut per side how can you take a cut per side when the material is round
That is a phrase created by having direct / cut depth and actual dials / diameter, for carriages over the years. ;{)------
What is the stylus made of, and do you have to put oil on the pattern? Thanks.
Now you have talked about the lines they will blow lol😂😂
Yeah like, ginx! LOL I have mentioned it before, almost every time they could be seen by a viewer during one of my videos. ;{)------
I have to say I love your videos. But I could use your help. I'm looking for a good used small lathe. It don't need to be fancy. Any help would be much appreciated thank you
Whats the make/model of your tracer?
Random thought do you have a 98 level?
Ps the mills are a little more complicated 5hp hyd motor and lots of hoses.
Havent seen a tracer job in some time.. Cool :-)
Hydraulic hoses getting a bit long in the tooth.
LOL ;{)-------
mmmmmm breakfast!