THEORYYY: Okay, so. I have a theory that Keefe _knew_ that the whole business with Elysian thing would happen. In Unraveled, maybe he will learn something about Elysian from Ethan Benedict Right II, or he meets one of his relatives (accidentally OR purposely) and thats the person who helps Keefe find his way in the Forbidden Cities. He acted very confident when he attacked Lady Gisela at the end of Stellarlune, so maybe the thing he learns that is CRUCIAL for the plot is who Elysian is, and how she got her powers!! :O
I voted for a chicken 😂 I thought it would be funny because he would annoy the HECK out of Sophie. Keefe: "Come on, Sophie! Please!" Sophie: "No, Keefe, Mrs. Cluckers cannot go with us to fight the Neverseen!" Edit: I know it's not on the votes, but when we gave the suggestions that's what I suggested.
I can totally see keefe with a fox, it suits his wild untamable personality so well, i love shannon messenger, she changed my life. and thank you for updating me on all the new things happening, thx
Ok so, this is not really a theory but wouldn't it be so cool if she added the SoKeefe scene from Keefe's POV! Just as an extra bonus to spice things up.
What if his polyglot (+empathy?) abilities allow him to kinda speak to animals like Councillor Clarette. Welp I’m pretty sure that what happens lol, I would be sad if it didn’t. Especially after Gisela kinda enhanced his abilities and it would be cool as apparently on Councillor Clarette can do it.
Theory: I’m pretty sure that if there is something bigger going on with those two options, the fox group thing will be ironically called either the ‘white fox’ or the ‘snow fox’ and unlike trying to create peace in the lost cities (Like the Black Swan), they’d be tricksters and thugs. Also maybe since Keefe said he had made some ‘friends’ along the way in his journey he might have joined the White Fox for they have promised him answers, one day maybe he sees a black swan and a fox in the same scenery and realised he must choose whichever group because they are both so different (the White Fox isn’t like the Neverseen, not trying to take over the world, more like trying to have has much fun as they can without getting caught!). What do you guys think?
It’s a nice theory and it would be so cool if that happened but I think it might be a little too late in the series to introduce a whole new group. But who knows! Maybe Shannon Messenger will make it work
I think he should totally befriend a fox because honestly I’m kinda tired of all the birds, plus I feel like a fox would be a able to match Keefe’s energy
I'm so excited for this book!! I also personally think that it should be a swan because they're part of the black swan and a fox seems a bit random, but both seem very interesting and cool options!
1. i’m absolutely team fox 2. my reasoning is the exact same as joey’s with the fact sophie and keefe are the bunny and FOX from zootopia 3. my cover theory is that it gives the same vibes as 8.5 but instead of sophie riding sliveny is keefe looking back at the reader with his pet fox on the cover
Ok this is a long shot butttt what if the fox actually represents the Neverseen. We already know that the swan is most likely related the black swan. I would imagine that the fox could be some sort of robotic animal that the neverseen made to find Keefe and follow him secretly
And to add to that thought if we chose the swan, we could have had a tinker making the swan as one of the secret cameras they have. If that makes sence
Hello shannon messinger 3 months ago my mom and i found your series and both her and i are really into it. I also just found the kotlc fanbase and i subcribed and i have to say your just an amazing arthur i have never been into a series such as yours and i cannot wait for unraveled i hope theres some sophie x keef moments sokeef is the ship name of those two now. good luck!
I'm so excited! I don't agree that Keefe with find Sophie's father because I think Sophie's bio-dad is Elwin, and why would Elwin be in the Forbidden Cities?? I just feel like Shannon wouldn't make a whole new character for Sophie's bio-dad.
Yeah I guess that makes sense that Elwin wouldn’t be in the Forbidden Cities 😆 but Sophie’s dad could be Ethan Benedict Wright or a human that Keefe meets because I’m not entirely sold on the fact that both parents are elves 👀
@@kotlcfanbase Interesting... I'm rooting for Sophie having a supportive bio-dad she can talk to, like Elwin! But your theory on Ethan Benedict Wright makes some sense! Also they have to be willing to give their DNA to the Black Swan for Sophie to be created, I don't think a human would be willing to do that!
what if Keefe visited to Japan? if he did, then maybe the fox isn't just a fox. maybe its a kitsune, a fox spirit. I know its unlikely but it was just an interesting thought. maybe this fox has a connection with Elysian? whether its a good or bad connection is yet to be known
oh, it won't be just fun. if you know Japanese mythology, kitsunes can be known for their trickery and Keefe was known for his pranks, so it makes sense and lines up well. as for the part of the connection to Elysian, whether good or bad, could mean some secrets are about to be revealed. kitsunes are also shapeshifters in Japanese mythology so Keefe would have no problem asking the kitsune what it knows about the hidden secrets of the Lost Cities@@kotlcfanbase
THEORY!! Ok, so, remember in book 9, Keefe said he made friends in the Forbidden cities? What if, they find out he's an elf and tries to get him to tell them all about the Lost cities! But, then again, he might not do it, since, you know, humans aren't supposed to know? also, ps, love your videos, they're how I keep track of Kotlc action, since I am only allowed to have yt.
I really hope that the fox is a Cross fox! THEY ARE SO BEAUTIFUL!! Snow foxes are really pretty, but I feel like it's too expected, and also they're meant for colder climate, and bringing the fox to warmer places could put it under a lot of stress because it's coat is so much thicker/longer than regular foxes.
I feel like a fox bc Sophie is already his Swan. Why wld he want another swan when he already has the perfect one??? But maybe, since he things he may never see her again, he befriends a swan as a tribute to her???
omg I stopped being into all the kotlc stuff after the graphic novel bc I was focusing on manga and coming back to kotlc is like coming back to math after not doing it for a whole year 💀
I voted for fox because I fell like a swan wouldn’t make sense? I don’t know. I just feel like it would’ve been weird like a fox is kinda like a dog or a cat but a swan? Idk.
This is a little random but I felt i had to share this with everyone: Keeper of the Lost Cities Keep h i e Keephie Keephie=Sokeefe Coincidence? I think not. (It's probably just a coincidence😂)
See here’s the thing I think he would very much be like a fox, but also think about it this way if you missed Sophie Enough and he might’ve actually befriended a swan because he misses her and I’m saying this before watching the rest of the video
Ok so I picked fox Im also sick of swans 😂 But main reason I can see keefe with a fox Similar personalities and whatnot (hopefully a fox brings back the keefe personality we know and love for a bit sense hes been so upset" Also SWANS ARE MEAN Theyre known to drown people and capsize boats Plus i just love foxes I had a fox obsession a couple years back and this totally brought it back 😂 But ive also got a unraveled theory in general Ok so Keefe has been going numb in stellarlune We're all aware of that He's not acting himself Going numb Abilities not working Just overall worrying behavior And I've got a theory that he's going to break in book ten AND Shannon said some major information is going to be unveiled in unraveled Well Well Well I've come up with something What if Keefe DID actually kill Ethan and his daughter Hear me out Shannon said that she was going to try and fit the information in unraveled into stellarlune But it didn't work out Then in try for book 10 But didnt fit Well in stellarlune we know the 2 humans WERE actually brought up Could that have been Shannon trying to write in the information about them but didn't work? But you're probably wondering how this means Keefe killed them Stick with me Almost there Keefes memory of him delivering the letter was SHATTERED Not washed Shattered That was the only memory (as of known so far) to be shattered The rest got washed Why go out of your way to shatter THAT specific memory when the others were washed Like the one with Gisela was on the roof with Alvar That wasn't anything he needed to remember later But why treat it different Also Gisela was talking like Keefe had something to do with their death (Could've been manipulation tactic and it probably was but still) Keefe had also visited their graves and asked about them Confirmed stuff about them WILL be in unraveled He wasn't acting himself in stellarlune Yes he wasn't acting himself in unlocked either And also yes he's been going numb and that absolutely will contribute to that But idk It just seems like there's more to it than JUST that And THAT would definitely mess someone up AND I'm already pretty sure his mind will shatter in book ten So that could be the tipping point for it to do so AND Shannon said this is game changing news That definitely would be COMPLETELY plot changing and everything And it would make sense why we'd need to see this revelation through his pov rather than in Sophie's just being told Even if Keefe didn't kill them himself But more so he had a more direct role in their murders than previously thought Disclaimer I don't actually think he killed them I just don't believe it BUT this is some stuff that I've noticed And I could see how it could go in that direction
I hate Keefe, he is the most hateable caracter of the whole series and I would never buy this trash of the book .I love the Kotlc series but Keefe is only 🤮.Tam is the best character 🖤in the world and i love him🖤🖤🖤
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I actually voted for fox because i can totally picture Keefe somehow accidentally befriending a wild animal but not a swan
Yeah swan wasn’t giving the vibes like Joey said a fox is very sneaky and mischievous like Keefe!
Keefe would totally name it Foxter ✨
THAT IS GENIUS OH MY GOSH HAHHAH I love it!
FOXTER AND FOSTER, HIS 2 FAV THINGS!! 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Ok that is pure genius. Shannon better do that
Genius ❤😂
Yes I love that! Foxter would be Keefe's best friend.
Voted for swan initially, but wished I voted for fox afterwards. It's much more of a "Keefe" animal.
I definitely agree with you the Fox fits Keefe’s personality and humor so well I can’t even wait to see this scene!
THEORYYY:
Okay, so. I have a theory that Keefe _knew_ that the whole business with Elysian thing would happen.
In Unraveled, maybe he will learn something about Elysian from Ethan Benedict Right II, or he meets one of his relatives (accidentally OR purposely) and thats the person who helps Keefe find his way in the Forbidden Cities.
He acted very confident when he attacked Lady Gisela at the end of Stellarlune, so maybe the thing he learns that is CRUCIAL for the plot is who Elysian is, and how she got her powers!! :O
I do think Ethan Benedict Wright -- whether he is dead or alive -- will be important in Unraveled! Thanks for sharing this theory, have a great week!
I voted for a chicken 😂
I thought it would be funny because he would annoy the HECK out of Sophie.
Keefe: "Come on, Sophie! Please!"
Sophie: "No, Keefe, Mrs. Cluckers cannot go with us to fight the Neverseen!"
Edit: I know it's not on the votes, but when we gave the suggestions that's what I suggested.
HAHAHAH that would be truly iconic and hilarious to read! I could see Keefe befriending a chicken 😂
@@kotlcfanbase Yes lol, it's his spirit animal 😂
@@kotlcfanbase THE RESULTS ARE IN, it's a fox!!!
I love the Swan because you can remind him of Sophie But the fox is like random and he's sneaky just like him so idk?!?!
IT WAS SUCH A TRICKY CHOICE but I went for a cute lil Fox hopefully that Keefe can take with him around the world 🌎
I can totally see keefe with a fox, it suits his wild untamable personality so well, i love shannon messenger, she changed my life. and thank you for updating me on all the new things happening, thx
Ok so, this is not really a theory but wouldn't it be so cool if she added the SoKeefe scene from Keefe's POV! Just as an extra bonus to spice things up.
That would make a great exclusive edition bonus chapter!
@@kotlcfanbase ikr!! It’d be awesome 🤩
@@bookwoman13ok i wish Shannon saw this
Why do I feel like Keefe found out he could talk to animals or something and befriended then a fox?????
I HOPE SOOOO! He’s got some polyglot abilities from his mom like his mimicking so maybe he could do that with animals!?!
@@kotlcfanbase Yes I was thinking the same thing lol
VERY EXCITED FOR THIS BOOK 😩
SHANNON IS FEEDING US WELL THIS YEAR😌
But I want it now!!!!
What if his polyglot (+empathy?) abilities allow him to kinda speak to animals like Councillor Clarette. Welp I’m pretty sure that what happens lol, I would be sad if it didn’t.
Especially after Gisela kinda enhanced his abilities and it would be cool as apparently on Councillor Clarette can do it.
that would be so cool! I dont think he's officially a polyglot but he learned how to mimic voices so maybe he could do that with animals?
Theory:
I’m pretty sure that if there is something bigger going on with those two options, the fox group thing will be ironically called either the ‘white fox’ or the ‘snow fox’ and unlike trying to create peace in the lost cities (Like the Black Swan), they’d be tricksters and thugs.
Also maybe since Keefe said he had made some ‘friends’ along the way in his journey he might have joined the White Fox for they have promised him answers, one day maybe he sees a black swan and a fox in the same scenery and realised he must choose whichever group because they are both so different (the White Fox isn’t like the Neverseen, not trying to take over the world, more like trying to have has much fun as they can without getting caught!). What do you guys think?
I LOVE THIS THEORY! Thank you so much for sharing it! The White Fox would be ICONIC
I love this sm!!
It’s a nice theory and it would be so cool if that happened but I think it might be a little too late in the series to introduce a whole new group. But who knows! Maybe Shannon Messenger will make it work
@@lylab1010 truee
My fav part in the vid was when Austin said that Keefe would befriend the doorman and they couldn’t hold in the laughter😂😂😂
He was being really silly we had to cut a lot of it out!! 😂😂
I see Keefe befriending a fox all the way.
Team Fox!!!! 🦊 Mostly because foxes are sneaky and mischievous like Keefe!!! ( And also because we've had enough swans!!!) ❤
🦊🦊 YESS! Team fox for the win! Thanks for commenting Molly!
No problemo 😁
i have an idea that shanon could ve done when she was pregnant… she couldve dyed iggy blue or pink depending on the gender! that wouldve been so cute
AWWW CUTE 🥹🫶💗
I think he should totally befriend a fox because honestly I’m kinda tired of all the birds, plus I feel like a fox would be a able to match Keefe’s energy
That’s so true! There’s so many birds in the series 😂 definitely agree with you!
I'm so excited for this book!! I also personally think that it should be a swan because they're part of the black swan and a fox seems a bit random, but both seem very interesting and cool options!
ME TOOO! Also yeah doesn’t it seem a little suspicious that a swan was included ?
I thought that was interesting but it fits with the story. @@kotlcfanbase
1. i’m absolutely team fox
2. my reasoning is the exact same as joey’s with the fact sophie and keefe are the bunny and FOX from zootopia
3. my cover theory is that it gives the same vibes as 8.5 but instead of sophie riding sliveny is keefe looking back at the reader with his pet fox on the cover
Keefe would def call the Fox " Lady Foxter " - Its lame IK but " Foxter" and " Foster " :)
FOXTERRRR I LOVE IT! 👏👏👏
Fox.
I personally love keefe is meeting a fox because of my last name hahaha. Feels like I’m in the book
THATS SO COOL! I think that’s such a cool last name!
@@kotlcfanbase Thanks!!! I appreciate that :) I lowkey love it too
I think that a fox is suitable for Keef, they are both very cunning and sneaky. IT WILL BE PERFECT✨
ICONIC DUO I already know it! 😌😌🫶
Team Keefe x fox 🦊
Hello! Keefe should befriend a dog! Dog peeps 😎
I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN SO BAD
i think a fox would be cool they would fr match each others personlity (*or* a raccoon)!
yesss! I agree with you! Thanks for watching!
Ok this is a long shot butttt what if the fox actually represents the Neverseen. We already know that the swan is most likely related the black swan. I would imagine that the fox could be some sort of robotic animal that the neverseen made to find Keefe and follow him secretly
And to add to that thought if we chose the swan, we could have had a tinker making the swan as one of the secret cameras they have. If that makes sence
WAITTT that would be so interesting! Nice thinking - thank you for sharing your theory with us!
I just got home from school I'm so excited!!!!!
ITS SUCH FUN NEWS! I can’t wait to see this scene with the fox 🦊
I love this Channel
Thank you!!
THE VOTE WAS ON MY BDAY AND I MISSED IT!!!!!! 😭😭
NOOOOOOO🥹🥹
Hello shannon messinger 3 months ago my mom and i found your series and both her and i are really into it. I also just found the kotlc fanbase and i subcribed and i have to say your just an amazing arthur i have never been into a series such as yours and i cannot wait for unraveled i hope theres some sophie x keef moments sokeef is the ship name of those two now. good luck!
I'm so excited! I don't agree that Keefe with find Sophie's father because I think Sophie's bio-dad is Elwin, and why would Elwin be in the Forbidden Cities?? I just feel like Shannon wouldn't make a whole new character for Sophie's bio-dad.
Yeah I guess that makes sense that Elwin wouldn’t be in the Forbidden Cities 😆 but Sophie’s dad could be Ethan Benedict Wright or a human that Keefe meets because I’m not entirely sold on the fact that both parents are elves 👀
@@kotlcfanbase Interesting... I'm rooting for Sophie having a supportive bio-dad she can talk to, like Elwin! But your theory on Ethan Benedict Wright makes some sense!
Also they have to be willing to give their DNA to the Black Swan for Sophie to be created, I don't think a human would be willing to do that!
what if Keefe visited to Japan? if he did, then maybe the fox isn't just a fox. maybe its a kitsune, a fox spirit. I know its unlikely but it was just an interesting thought. maybe this fox has a connection with Elysian? whether its a good or bad connection is yet to be known
I love this theory so dearly! this would make for such a fun story!!
oh, it won't be just fun. if you know Japanese mythology, kitsunes can be known for their trickery and Keefe was known for his pranks, so it makes sense and lines up well. as for the part of the connection to Elysian, whether good or bad, could mean some secrets are about to be revealed. kitsunes are also shapeshifters in Japanese mythology so Keefe would have no problem asking the kitsune what it knows about the hidden secrets of the Lost Cities@@kotlcfanbase
I didnt get the chance to vote, but I would'e voted fox
FOX TEAM!! 🦊🫶
Same
Definitely a fox! Foxes are known to be sly and mischievous. It's perfect for him!
Omg fox is my fav animal I hope it wins
Yes it won! Keefe will befriend a fox in Unraveled!
I'm team Fox cause Swans are mean and nasty. Where's Foxes are cute and sweet!
hahahaha TRUE!!
THEORY!!
Ok, so, remember in book 9, Keefe said he made friends in the Forbidden cities? What if, they find out he's an elf and tries to get him to tell them all about the Lost cities! But, then again, he might not do it, since, you know, humans aren't supposed to know?
also, ps, love your videos, they're how I keep track of Kotlc action, since I am only allowed to have yt.
I’m so happy you like our videos! I kind of hope your theory happens 🫶😆
I really hope that the fox is a Cross fox! THEY ARE SO BEAUTIFUL!!
Snow foxes are really pretty, but I feel like it's too expected, and also they're meant for colder climate, and bringing the fox to warmer places could put it under a lot of stress because it's coat is so much thicker/longer than regular foxes.
Ooh thanks for sharing about this important Fox lore 🫶🫶 I haven’t heard of cross foxes I’ll have to look them up!
future and metro releasing this friday joey
Hype!! Carti’s on it 😆
Foxes are usually referred to as a trickster, so I would trust Swan.
Good point! Definitely more reliable
I feel like a fox bc Sophie is already his Swan. Why wld he want another swan when he already has the perfect one??? But maybe, since he things he may never see her again, he befriends a swan as a tribute to her???
AWW that would be so adorable but hopefully he doesn’t think he will never see her again!! 🥲🥲🥲
@@kotlcfanbase Ik hopefully not!!!!
Honestly… fox… it changes it up and doesn’t just go with the swan pattern and stuff… plussss a fox could be so much like Keefe lol
I VOTED FORRRR FOXX
I'm team fox! And my sis 2!
TEAM FOX 🦊🦊
FIRST 🥇🎉
YUHHHH thanks for watching Molly!
omg I stopped being into all the kotlc stuff after the graphic novel bc I was focusing on manga and
coming back to kotlc is like coming back to math after not doing it for a whole year 💀
hahahah right?! it feels so strange to step back into the world 😂
I voted for fox because I fell like a swan wouldn’t make sense? I don’t know. I just feel like it would’ve been weird like a fox is kinda like a dog or a cat but a swan? Idk.
Yeah a swan would be really strange I totally get what you mean! Most of the fans also voted fox so it’s a definite agreement 😁
fox!
This is a little random but I felt i had to share this with everyone:
Keeper of the Lost Cities
Keep h i e
Keephie
Keephie=Sokeefe
Coincidence? I think not. (It's probably just a coincidence😂)
heck yah
See here’s the thing I think he would very much be like a fox, but also think about it this way if you missed Sophie Enough and he might’ve actually befriended a swan because he misses her and I’m saying this before watching the rest of the video
I just wanted to put my prejudgments into the comments
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I also thought the same thing where Keefe would see the swan and would be reminded of Foster 🥹🫶
❤️🩵
Thanks for agreeing your my favorite kotlc channel
FOX SO IT CAN BE NAME FOXTER
I vite for the fox…i mean that is prob the most likely
where is shanon's page that you's are on in this vidio
What platform can you find these things that Shannon posts??? Is it instagram?
Shannon Instagram, @sw_messenger
@@kotlcfanbase thanks! :D
Fox
🦊🦊🦊 go team Fox!
Question? Do you think polyglots can speak sign language?
Absolutely! ◡̈
Ok so
I picked fox
Im also sick of swans 😂
But main reason
I can see keefe with a fox
Similar personalities and whatnot (hopefully a fox brings back the keefe personality we know and love for a bit sense hes been so upset"
Also
SWANS ARE MEAN
Theyre known to drown people and capsize boats
Plus i just love foxes
I had a fox obsession a couple years back and this totally brought it back 😂
But ive also got a unraveled theory in general
Ok so
Keefe has been going numb in stellarlune
We're all aware of that
He's not acting himself
Going numb
Abilities not working
Just overall worrying behavior
And I've got a theory that he's going to break in book ten
AND Shannon said some major information is going to be unveiled in unraveled
Well Well Well
I've come up with something
What if Keefe DID actually kill Ethan and his daughter
Hear me out
Shannon said that she was going to try and fit the information in unraveled into stellarlune
But it didn't work out
Then in try for book 10
But didnt fit
Well in stellarlune we know the 2 humans WERE actually brought up
Could that have been Shannon trying to write in the information about them but didn't work?
But you're probably wondering how this means Keefe killed them
Stick with me
Almost there
Keefes memory of him delivering the letter was SHATTERED
Not washed
Shattered
That was the only memory (as of known so far) to be shattered
The rest got washed
Why go out of your way to shatter THAT specific memory when the others were washed
Like the one with Gisela was on the roof with Alvar
That wasn't anything he needed to remember later
But why treat it different
Also
Gisela was talking like Keefe had something to do with their death
(Could've been manipulation tactic and it probably was but still)
Keefe had also visited their graves and asked about them
Confirmed stuff about them WILL be in unraveled
He wasn't acting himself in stellarlune
Yes he wasn't acting himself in unlocked either
And also yes he's been going numb and that absolutely will contribute to that
But idk
It just seems like there's more to it than JUST that
And THAT would definitely mess someone up
AND I'm already pretty sure his mind will shatter in book ten
So that could be the tipping point for it to do so
AND Shannon said this is game changing news
That definitely would be COMPLETELY plot changing and everything
And it would make sense why we'd need to see this revelation through his pov rather than in Sophie's just being told
Even if Keefe didn't kill them himself
But more so he had a more direct role in their murders than previously thought
Disclaimer
I don't actually think he killed them
I just don't believe it
BUT this is some stuff that I've noticed
And I could see how it could go in that direction
A fox. Fox. Fox. The swan is so boring because I’m so tired of black swan and since Keefe is a never seen “moonlark” he should befriend the fox
I hate Keefe, he is the most hateable caracter of the whole series and I would never buy this trash of the book .I love the Kotlc series but Keefe is only 🤮.Tam is the best character 🖤in the world and i love him🖤🖤🖤
I’d probably pick the fox 🦊 🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊
(I just added the fox emojis when I edited it)
FOX TEAM!!! 🦊
@@kotlcfanbase YEAHHHHHHHHH
I’m NOT excited for unraveled 🫠🫠🫠like it seems like a money grab atp, just give us book 10 and be done with it 😭😭😭