The EMPIRE Was Right! (and Mandalorian Season 3 Proves It!)
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2023
- The latest episode of Mandalorian season 3 proves that the Empire was right! The new republic was so set on demilitarizing that they forgot to actually keep the galaxy secure. We explain why.
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Well, let me explain exactly why the new republic sucks. But first of all, I will say that maintaining an entire galactic government is really hard. Americans can;t even get our two parties to agree, could you imagine handling the wishes of trillions of trillions of people?
Teh high republic novels and comics detail how the Republic struggled to expand into the outer rim. They immediately face resistance from independent planets and vicious pirates called the Nihil. This is a big problem because, historically, the galactic republic did not maintain a military.
Doug: But then how do they maintain control of the bearcat? How do they keep the local systems in line?
Well, each planet has their own military force, like the naboo forces we saw in the phantom menace. But also, private companies like the trade federation also had their own private armies, like Blackwater mercenaries in real life.
Now what we have here is a recipe for constant galactic war. You could see planets have squabbles and disputes with one another and private planets conquering worlds because there is no strong military to enforce the peace.
And that’s why the jedi were integral to the structure of the republic. By the time of the clone wars, the jedi order basically became an extension of the republic, commanding armies and taking orders from the supreme chancellor.
I’m going to talk more about the lack of a jedi order a little later in the video, but for now I wanna talk about what the empire did right. Obviously, they were led by a demonic force that committed genocide and enslaved millions-but, the empre undesrtaood that-thought the Jedi-you need a strong military to enfocre galactic order.
The empire didn;t just prevent regional wars from erupting-they also caught space pirates, provided planetary security.
Doug: Planetary oppression, you mena.
Yes, yes. Thor's tactics were horrible, but as I’ll explain in this video, they did prove that the new republic was doomed to fail.
And by the way Doug, you just reminded me…
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Support, by the way, is what the new republic failed to provide for their citizens. Whereas the empire at last tried to create a sense of galactic unity. Enlisting people from across the galaxy into the military helped people to feel like they were part of the same government. Like how the US was able to heal some of the wounds fomr the civil war when northern and southern troops fought together against Spain in the 1890s.
And the emperor also maintained power by selling this idea of safety and security [rots , safe and secure]. And we see how that message resonated 15 years later among the coruscant elite [emperor’s duty to keep us safe].
Again, the empire, clearly evil. But from this episode of the Mandalorian, we see that the new republic threw out some of what worked about the empire, and kept a lot of what didn;t work.
New republic explained
So I will say, I was a big fan of the old expanded universe novels, which showed mon mothma and then leia becoming the leader of a prosperous new galactic government. But what we saw play out in the sequel trilogy is a lot more realistic and historically accurate. Revolutions rarely establish stable governments afterwards.
Doug: What about the United states?
Actually, after the American Revolution, the 13 colonies signed the Articles of Confederation, a loose agreement to help one another in case they were attacked. Each state had their own coin, trade laws, and there was no united government.
But they chose a decentralized government because they had just escaped the tyranny of the crown, so they did not want another king. This decentralized government failed-much like the confederate states of america, and it led to a stronger federal government established by the constitution. 
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Galen Urso: _”You’re confusing peace with terror, Krennic.”_
Director Krennic: _”Well,… you’ve got to start somewhere!”_
this video really shows the potential of star wars when the right people are in charge
Well said.
As you were describing the sequel trilogy, I have realised: wouldn't it have much more sense if Ep.8 was named "The Rise of Skywalker" and Ep. 9 "The Last Jedi"? I mean... the titles describe exactly the plot of both movies, but they are switched.
agreed, now I'm more enjoying Rian Johnson's movie than ever before
Only problem is he ruined lightsaber and potential charecters
"J.J. Abrams is better at remakes than he is at worldbuilding." If there's ANY lesson to take from this video, it was that.
And he's not good at all doing remakes.
I half think they figured that the fans would devour the novels and comics, so they could just put it there. Under estimating how many people are movies (and TV shows) only.
They should have at least had a decent world building show with at least a season out before Force Awakens was released.
@@sjmcc13 The funny thing is there was the better world building a shit ton of it in fact. Much of it never to see the screen and or to never work due to a previous movie made by a certain moron.
He is not good in anything
Nailed it.
You’ve nailed it. I’m enjoying the direction with Mando, Andor and Bad Batch. They are stepping past the pew-pew and laser swords and getting into how complicated and messy that the whole thing would be. That’s really an expanded universe. Also, clearly these shows have been in work for a while and there are hints of the political questions the US was facing at the time.
Well looks like you have not watched Andor.
@@vivapr6136 are you dumb? Andor was the best written and most political star wars has EVER been.
I go as far to say that Star Wars is more than just a critique of the US government during Vietnam (as it was with the OT) and has evolved now to a critique on the flaws of capitalism and imperialism, and presents historical materialism and the rise of alt-right movements in an easier to digest context.
@@vivapr6136 🧐
@@Queuewithouttheueue Actually more of a critique on Nazi Germany, but I dont hate your point.
This is probably the best video you've ever done. The sequels makes so much more sense now and Doug - who we all know is the brains behind this operation and Ryan is just eye candy for the chicks - said it best:
The sequels would have been a lot better if this stuff been explained in the moves but Abrams chose to remake ANH instead.
Seriously, my hat's off to you. This is the best assessment of the how the First Order came to be.
Honestly, it would've made much more sense for Disney to put out all these incredible shows *before* the sequel trilogy. so much groundwork is laid out here between the 3 shows that would have transitioned perfectly into the rise of the New Order in Ep 7. And taking their time building out the universe would have given them time to plan it and release an actually coherent and cohesive sequel trilogy. instead Disney hired JJ Abrams and forced that turd out the door a decade too soon.
@@Shishkebarbarian i see what you mean, and if it happened that way it would have been brilliant, but i think that it's only happening this way as a consequence of how the sequel trilogy was so bad.
they straight up needed to go back to basics, fill in all the holes, and rebuild the foundations after the fact because they forgot/failed to create a coherent world.
i dont know if it would have happened like this at all, if they got the sequel trilogy right first time round.
@@Shishkebarbarian "Somehow Palpatine returned"
@@to4mac That somehow being studio execs meddling at the 11th hour, because there are to many incompetent nepotism hires in those positions. Remember the Matt Smith pictures...
Not sure if it's been mentioned but it's ironic that pershing starts to doubt the New Republic because he's being tasked with archiving all of the old empire equipment that is being destroyed rather than repurposed and by the end of the episode he is literally being "treated" with a piece of repurposed empire equipment..
I never thought about it that way, great point.
Now he knows how Crosshair feels.
One of the things that really annoys me about the new post-Disney canon is that the New Republic somehow managed to avoid not using any Star Destroyers despite the fact that there were craploads of them flying around. Just because it is an "evil" ship and so the "good guys" can't use it.
I miss the old canon with a New Republic that actually had a pair of balls and were willing to enforce peace with a proper military, even unto the point of fighting their own mini-rebellion to stop the whole thing falling apart. It was such a cool idea of having white-painted Star Destroyers deploying X-wings.
I love democracy.
Ironic
@@sharpki im literally quoting palpatine.
This is how democracy dies
@@saschatre With thunderous applause
I love the Republic. Once this crisis has abated, I will lay down the powers you have given me!
This was truly incredible. You gave so much context to what I was missing out in the Mandalorian series. Keep up the great work.
Regarding the whole "it shouldn't go up to 11" thing. Well, yeah. But I've worked in tech long enough that when somebody finds out some hardware or software is bad/dangerous/unpleasant at a certain setting, the solution is usually to "put a piece of masking tape over it with the words 'don't use' written in sharpie." So I find that scene entirely believable.
How do we know that there aren't some species that have a higher tolerance that requires a higher setting?
Making Cars drive over 80mph when there is no road that has a mph over that or it's a ticket.
Creating parking lots at bars.
They'll always exploit us.
@@craig2717imperials were racist against anything not human, there were very few nonhuman imperials, making it a niche case
Something similar happened in Legends. The New Republic wasn’t the most well organized. So after Cal Omas was elected chief of state, he took what he could of the New Republic, rewote the constitution, and made a new, more centralized government known as the Galatic Alliance. The GA would work close with Luke's Jedi Order. Afterwards, my favorite piece of poetry (Lucas's words about Star Wars) happens: Jacen Solo would be elected Chief Of State and become a sith lord to make a better galaxy for his daughter. Luke would take the order and work with a new rebellion to stop Jacen. Afterwards an imperial named Dalla (I hope I remember her name correctly) would become Chief of State and try to regulate the jedi as if they were a military branch instead of vigilantes. It didn't end well for her.
Daala but close enough.
The change from Empire to Republic reminds me more of the dissolution of the USSR and what followed- some democracies evolved, religious wars/genocides that begat authoritarians, parent nations trying to claw back the satellite territories, etc.
Bail should have been leader of the new government. That's the real tragedy. One guy could have made a difference for real. His death and everyone on Alderan turned a lot of people in the Empire also causing it to start dying from within. One the reasons the second deathstar was behind schedule.
I really wanted to strangle Mon Mothma for the dumbest fucking decision she made by letting the Empire live and doing whatever the fuck they want and please.
I suspect Mon Mothma's biggest problem is she's an idealist. I suspect she thought her peers were better people than they actually were.
Very good video! A galaxy like you mentioned after the fall of the first order with Mandalorians the strongest power, the Jedi rebuilding and pirates making a mess would be very interesting. I could get down with that!
The problem with the TV shows is that they have to do all the heavy lifting in regards of wordbuilding that the sequels decided to left behind
The problem with the TV shows is they are written by morons, speaking only about book of boba and mando season 3.
It will probably not happen but I wish they just erased the sequels and used the TV shows to make a "new sequel" timeline.
@@dashbolt101s they won’t, they are clearly showing how the new republic turned into The First Order
@BK Beatty damn your right, even if they fill in the new republic lore and first order it kinda still did ruin my troubled homie Anakin
I’m so glad Doug is being honored with this new merchandise. Doug seems really proud of it all. 😊
Tbh, sometimes I forget that Doug can't actually talk! The voices you make for him are hilarious and just spot-on. "I am so small." Lolz 😂
Yeah hes immortalized.
My only wish is that this coherent storyline was featured in the movies at all, and not just backfilled in TV series and books... 😩
So much this! The OG and prequel trilogies set up a foundation for world building that was conductive for TV and books to fill in blanks and explain inconsistencies. The new lore feels like a greedy money grab with no substance. Were all the intelligent thoughts only came after it flopped like never before.
I felt like this episode was a character assassination of the New Republic.
That and of the leaders of the Rebel Alliance. They would have to be functionally braindead not to realize the power vacuum they would create by dismantling the empire and rebel military forces without first securing the core worlds of the New Republic. They also should not be relying on the Jedi Order to keep the peace for them. They are a monastic faction that should be following the will of the Force. Sometimes their paths will cross and goals will align, but they cannot just be called upon at the whims of politicians.
It wasn't that great in Legends either. 🤷♂
@@ES90344 Come on. The New Republic was not killed at a sigle day. It had a formidable military and faced many threats.
@@ES90344 also the New Jedi Order embraced the Grey. Not just redoing what the old order’s mistakes.
Nope
Someone give this man a job at Lucasfilm. I like his pitch for what the follow up to Rise of Skywalker should be.
THANK YOU for such a deep comprehensive explanation of the politics in Star Wars. I wanted to know exactly how the First Order came to fruition after the Empires fall.
I think a main reason why the new republic uses droids or reformed imperials is that they are too few people.
They can’t be everywhere. And they try to fill the gaps as best (or worst) as they can.
It’s also mentioned in the second season with the patrols in the outer rim. They can’t be everywhere and they look for every help they can get like recruiting Cara.
Unfortunately if you fail too often to be there when it matters people start loosing faith and look for alternatives like a new empire. It wasn’t that bad, right?!
I feel like I'm getting a genuinely interesting history lesson and a Star Wars Lore Lesson. Awesome!
Except is largely misinformation. Read some actual history.
To quote Pete Townsend, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Doug is out here asking the important questions
Doug and Ryan are a great team!
The idealized New Republic you mention at the end feels like what the High Republic was in the process of realizing. Right up until the Nihil came in.
You know, I was done with the sequel era because of the botched world-building but 13:10 is a solid idea. Makes a ton of sense, would be interesting, and would also validate the sequel trilogy (or aspects of it!).
Doug is a cool manager for letting Ryan make these videos at the store
I find it amazing how they show in two different shows the characters talking about the government in the same planet but in Andor they need to hide and talk in codes and in the Mandalorian they are in the middle of the square in one of the most important part of the planet and nobody cares. Shows how the New Republic really didn't thought they could be taken down
Or mando is made for more simple minded people than and or was
This is an amazing video Ryan. You've summed all this up perfectly. Well done!
That is a seriously good episode. Thank you. So good to get the context of the First Order.
Wow! You packed a lot into 15 minutes. Thanks for the backstory. I really should read the Star Wars books.
Well done, thank you for explaining the details of the rise of the first order.. I have not read bloodline so I got to def give it a read.
The parallels between these shows and real world endless errors & who always remains in power regardless of elections is uncanny.
The High Republic books & comics shine such a light on how the Jedi & Republic both fell. I can’t wait to see some live action movie or show set in that era
So a period of chaos similar to Asimov's Foundation? Very there for it and a great way to mine stories. Lucas already stole Trantor for Coruscant (and you could argue robots) so Disney can easily follow suit.
I want the next movies to be in the old republic era. I wanna watch a jedi/sith war
I would love seeing the new Jedi order go more into the wandering monk style of Japanese martial arts movies
Good video...
Remember
Jedi = Knights loyal to 👑
Mandalorian = Samurai loyal to a Code (I e ., Bushido)...."This Is The Way"
The Star Wars writers really have a challenge to find a new/right balance between creating a new approach that embodies the best of (Dune, Lord of the Rings, Lawrence of Arabia and possibly a mild version of Game of Thrones).... JMHO
i would love a wandering Jedi (please disney, a new character) show a la Kung Fu back in the 90s. But you know... better.
Love the reviews! Thank you so much Doug! You are the best:)
good vid. i appreciate when you work book knowledge in. i just watch the cartoons on a neverending loop
Love the parallels between Star Wars and real life politics
Nice summary 👍👍 a note: @7:00 those were TIE Interceptors I think, not TIE Advanced. 😅
Interceptors are basically advanced TIE. I guess that's what he meant.
@@pachakara604 From a certain point of view 🙃
Imagine 50 years from now when you show the entire star wars saga (including) side shows to your kids.
I'd personally cry while watching every star wars movie/show
Our two parties agree on a LOT...just not anything that's going to help your life.
Really amazing video to understand all the chronology of Star Wars, I'd love to see this second Mandalorian/Jedi war happening ❤
My favorite thing about this channel is that it looks like an old Blockbuster store. I'm sure that's the vibe you were going for, and I must say, you really pulled it off.
Totally loved the economic and governmental explanation of how the first order came to be. Very well done! Best video ever about Star Wars politics 👌 👏
"Doug - Supreme Chancellor" T-shirts? That would sell!
EXCELLENT VIDEO! And yes, this should have been in the movies...
Look I love Star Wars but I’m not on like THAT level of dedication and I swear this video made almost the whole main storyline and plot points just make perfect sense in 14 mins 😂 I love this so much. 🎉thank you❤
I think the mon calamari was quoting the "beaming" scene in Spaceballs. It's a classic in every galaxy.
Dude I sense a disturbance in the force with the intro of this video 😂
The next step after Ep IX will be something like the Yuuzhan Vong War. If Ezra & Thrawn return from the Unknown Regions, they might be escaping a galactic size threat. When it arrives, systems will have to again choose sides. Forcing enemies into working together to fight the invaders.
I wanted that for the Sequel Trilogy so bad but we got ANH again.
The Grysk should be the next threat, and they aren’t exactly a Vong copy, but they are similar as a design threat, coming from the unknown region rather than from another galaxy altogether.
And a good trilogy it could be, and I would say a really good plot line for a trilogy is like this.
1st movie, lays the ground for the plot, introduces grysk but keeps them mysterious. Showcases the major characters.
2nd movie. Thrawn must secure a alliance with the new republic to defeat the grysk, but the new republic does not trust Thrawn.
3rd movie empire remants and republic finally team up for the final battle against the grysk. Due to the republic being not to putting enough resources in the military, you see the grysk dominating them. But at the final moments. The Vong arrive and destroy every grysk ship, as well as a majority of the republic and imperial ones. Only to have the imperial and republic leaders barely escaping.
This opens up the Vong trilogy and where the characters are already established, no need to have a movie on the empire remants and republic distrusting each, but a trilogy solely dedicating to the war and action against the Vong.
I think the Admiral Thrawn card would be best played at the post Rise of Skywalker era if they continue the story then.
... or rather in place of the sequel trilogy.
I'm hoping that there's not another Jedi-Mandalorian war. That would be such a cop out. I'm still holding out hope on the theory that Ahsoka being saved by Ezra somehow undoes the sequel trilogy in that the First Order doesn't come to power. It'll be interesting to see where this all leads.
WOW!!!! now all of this makes sense..... thank you for the history lesson... can't wait for the next class....
Discussions like these show why Star Wars works as a fable rather than as hard sci-fi. Evil wizard with evil army conquers the land makes sense. Trying to figure out a feasible centralized galactic government makes my head hurt.
Great job buddy. 😊 thanks for the explanation
Anyone remember the awesome rifle Mandolin had the first season? He obliterated opponents with each shot. Wish he still had that.
Also as a reminder that in legends the prequel Galactic Republic was NOT the first government, rather a successor to the Old Republic that fell during the New Sith War, which succeeded the Old Republic that rose after the events of the Sith Triumvirate, who was a successor of the Old Republic that was decapitated by Exar Kun’s rampage. The recurring theme there is the involvement of the Mandalorians (for the New Sith War, it’s heavily implied they were driven to near extinction during the Jedi-Mandalorian war for the Darksaber) and that the new canon should be HEAVILY DISSUADED from changing this aspect of the lore, no matter how much they want to make new things. I think for canonical consistency, the Mandalorians should remain as a micro scale perspective on the state of the galaxy
This summation and tie-in from the direction already taken in the new canon, makes a ton of sense. If done correctly this would be really interesting and compelling to see in movie form.
Tbh, sometimes I forget that Doug can't actually talk! The voices you make for him are hilarious and just spot-on. "I am so small." Lolz 😂
Brilliant. Those ideas that you propose about the post sequel era are totally accurate. George Lucas ideas were the same. A galaxy without law and chaos because of the absence of a central government. The criminal syndicates take control of some regions. Lucas thought about Maul as the crimelord, but that character is dead. Who else could replace him? Boba Fett. He was a bounty hunter. He had a mandalorian armor (connected to Maul as the leader of the mandalorians for a short time). Boba Fett is growing in power as a gangster.
George Lucas also spoke about a new female villain, a new Vader. He spoke about Darth Talon. She is a femme fatale type character that fits perfectly in a gangsters war environment. She could be trained by a mysterious darkside acolyte like Uber was going to be.
The mysteries of the Force and the Whills could be part of the story. Rey and her padawan could be part of that plot.
Remember, George Lucas always spoke about Vader's grandchildren? What if we discover more stories about Luke's lost years, disconnected of the Force and living as a simple man?
As you said, the mandalorians could be central in the plot as a new army and a new tyranny menace.
Fascinating commentary. Glad I watched!
Thanks for reminding me that the New order relied on contract services for military backing. Expect episodes forthcoming to include Jinata Security Inc.
I really want the new movies, whenever they come out to be of a time period where Grogu is like 200-300 years old and has become the second ever Jedi-Mandolorian, like the guy who created the dark saber. Grogu has started a new Jedi order that allows the Jedi to have emotions to make better judgement call, where it is a mix of the Jedi and Mandolorian culture. Clearly Rey would be dead by that point but tbh who cares about her story. I dont know what the evil/bad power could be in the movie but I like the idea of Grogu creating a better, more sustainable Jedi order that works better, but still faces challenges
LOL way to use Drunk History clips. Amazing show and nice little Easter Egg in your video!
I'm pretty sure theyre making the "New Trilogy:" legend and canon follows The Mandalorian.
After that last show, The Mandalorian, I was expecting the First Order to make some type of appearance.
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I feel like Ben Solo teaching padawans with the help of Rey would make for a better story, as well as them getting help from force ghosts and even an older more trained Grogu and an older Ashoka.
The numbering of the imperials going through rehabilitation seems like a failure to understand due to hubris and not borne of malice.
A little column A a little column B
Very educative video about the knowledge and lore of legacy and new expanded universe of Star Wars and not far away from our actual galaxy!
Your knowledge of star wars is immense. I always love tuning into these videos.
Love the back story and easter egg vids!
Wow they really should have put all that into a movie
the way you said EMPIRE EVIL sounded like something Uncle Roger would say
Well tbh they _were_ evil
Anyone who would give up their freedoms for safety and security, doesn't deserve neither to be safe nor secure.
Damn. The transition to and from that ad was masterful.
This is why Czerka Corp. was such a big deal in Knights of the Old Republic... :D
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Now we need a video on all the reasons Ezra Bridger is a better Jedi than Luke Skywalker. :P
for me and many of my childhood friends, we strongly preferred the Empire and Sauron and the baddies in general. 👀 i even thought Lord Dread was cooler than Captain Power
You should do a video with that guy who has that gold fish
10:42 So… the mind flare machine needed higher volumes for use on all species. Certain species would need higher levels.
Of course, they certainly just leave one person in a room that could crank it up. 😂
Thank you!
Amazing. Star Wars suddenly makes sense to me again. And even seems to be magnitudes better than the early days.
I wonder how many others think there is almost no way to tie together all the Star Wars off-shoots ...but seeing this 1 video of yours would solve that issue for them as it did for me.
My history teacher taught us with government it works like a pendulum it would have go through both extremes before eventually getting to something in the middle.
I for one like the image in my head that that following in their ancestor's foosteps. They returned as a people as they grew back to power with Grogu as Mandalore by the time the New Order took place and fell. Not once were they ever mentioned, which leads to plenty of room for them to simply have slowly put themselves back together and reunited their kin. Where in this new era, the Mandalorians achieved in their ways where the republic would have scoffed at them that warranted the Empire's fear to annihilate them. They were united by their creed. A broken Republic struggling to get their government to come together, while the Mandalorians rebuild their empire at a slow but steady pace, one planet at a time.
You are very mistaken about our history.
The reason we don't have a monarchy isn't they didn't want one. They offered Washington a monarchy, and he turned it down. He is mainly the reason we don't have one, not because they were completely against having another king.
Who cares what the Loyalists wanted?
@@robertwilson8184 Yeah, let's forget actual facts!
Lmao
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Safety and security. Biggest lie any government could sell you.
“If you give up your rights to the government, we promise your safety and security.”
Saw your merch. Ohhhh Palpatine or Doug? 😂 Decisions decisions. But Doug didn’t give his permission for his image. 😂 Very cool.
@10:27 one reason they may still have the ability to be cranked to 11 is that depending on the species that 11 might still be a 2 to a humanoid. Not sure this is a valid criticism, but loving the other arguements.
I love the analogy of the empire and hydra. Excellent point.
Great video! Unfortunately, JJ nuked the New Republic and then took the First Order down with Palpatine, so there isn’t any option but a galactic dark age.
This is why the legends version of the New Republic was more cool and smarter.
Well done, sir! Lots to think about here!
Dan Akroyd finds the machine refreshing, like the Bass-o-Matic juice.
Could you see Rey teaming up with Grogu and the Mandalorians to take on the remnants of the First Order?
I’m on board with this
The Ninth Jedi from “Visions” might be a good reflection of the galaxy after the sequel trilogy.
One path they (Star Wars) can is the path Dune took after God Emperor of Dune (Forewarning: it was called the Famine times and The Scattering, in a nutshell) So episode IX is a period where the planets kind of fend for themselves
That's indeed what happens when you build up on top of rubble
Many thanks for this insightful video!
‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
Beyond the military and politics, there's the economy- the empire had a standardized currency and banking system, which caused economic growth for the entire galaxy- breaking down that system would have led to a massive recession (as pointed out in season one of Mandalorian.)
This was an amazing observation!