Eric Clapton vs Jeff Beck | The Super-i-ometer decides!!!
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There's no question about it, Geoff Beck on any day ending with the letter "Y".
This should not even be a question, Beck of course, how could you even ask this :-)
Jeff Beck by a rather substantial margin!
From U.K.
Could go on and on here!
Beck, different galaxy!
Never mind planet, when it comes
to creativity.
no contest!
Wholeheartedly agreed MadCyril
Clapton always was my #1 with Beck close behind but I recall an interview with Eric when he said Jeff was the best guitarist in the world, so there you go. Jeff Beck was a genius 🎸
I saw Eric Clapton in concert with Delaney and Bonnie in 1969 and I saw Jeff Beck in concert in 2018. In this match up Beck is God should be written on the wall.
In the 60s and 70s, Clapton. After that, Beck got exponentially AMAZING year after year till the end. While his catalogue is not "radio friendly" like Eric, the level of commitment to the instrument is mindblowing. Geniuses always leave us first :( Great video!!!
I would say from the time of Blow by Blow onwards Beck was far superior and remained ahead for the rest of Jeff's life.
Beck, without a doubt. Clapton had great feel and tone until (maybe) the early seventies and then went middle-of-the-road average. Beck started pretty great and then continually got better throughout his career. He had more control, tone and feel than almost anyone. And no one else played like him. If necessary, I'll fight the Superiometer on this one! :D
I'm with you.
@@Barklord
Agreed. Their contribution to electric music has to be acknowledged.
Clapton surely played his best guitar over 50 years ago but if Ginger Baker Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton were equals as musicians in 1968 Eric was surely the guy who held it all together at the reunion concerts in 2005.
His playing was exquisite and impressive.
Clapton’s playing - for what he does- is usually excellent and has remained so over the decades. I would argue he has been better in the 1980s, 1990s and in the 21st century than he was way back when he had drug and alcohol problems. I wouldn’t confuse Clapton’s guitar playing proficiency with what he did creatively or his songwriting work with particular bands in certain eras.
Two different things, imo.
I couldn't have said it better. I like Eric's playing and I respect his contributions to music, but as a guitar player Jeff is a league above him. There really is no competition here. It's like comparing David Beckham to Messi.
They are both awesome. I heart is with Jeff, but no disputing the brilliance of Eric, particularly in his earlier years. We are fortunate to have experienced both.
Absolutely BECK. NO CONTEST.
"The truly great artists are humble. The truly great artists hide their virtuosity." So true, and so profound.
No comparison. One is a master of all things guitar, one is a blues player.
Absolutely correct
Jeff Beck has always been my favourite guitarist, if only because he communicated the most with the fewest notes. In fact, I'd play the same sections of his records over and over just to hear one or two (or a small handful) of notes. I guess my own 'super-i-ometer' would have to include a measure of 'musical economy' or 'succinctness'...
Yes, the 'super-i-ometer' missed out on 'taste'.
Clapton used a flame top 1960 Les Paul for the "Beano" sessions not a gold top. Freddy King played a gold top. I bought the "Beano" vinyl LP when it came out in 1966 on san Francisco. Clapton changed all music. His influence can be heard even today in elevators!
Wasn't quite expecting such a nicely balanced appraisal of their respective strength, in view of some of your other videos. Great point about the comradeship among Clapton,
Beck and Page. I've only seen videos of Clapton and Beck appearing together, but their mutual respect is very obvious.
Beck got along well with the other two, but I would question any great "comradeship" between EC and JP. Eric seemingly hasn't had much regard for Page since the Immediate recordings flap in the mid-1960's.
Clapton of course has done some fantastic things, and back in the day he was a monster live improvisor - but Jeff Beck is/was/will be "THE GUY".
Amen , Brother...Saint Beck...is...Special ..witha Halo..& I still like Clapton...but..I Still put Gilmour as my #1 British Guitarist..but Hendrix #1 in the universe ..no one even comes Close..Period
I’m 73. Beck has been my favorite guitarist since I picked up on him with The Yardbirds in ‘65, vaccines and the like having nothing to do with it. The first track I heard was “Mister You’re A Better Man Than I”. When that at the time unheard of far eastern influenced guitar solo started, I was lost and turned off, but by the end I was a die hard fan. He just does it for me….. INIMITABLE❣️
Beck... of course. The Super-i-ometer (aka Andy Edwards) really has to stretch to make it even competitive. I guess the point is...if you rig the rules the right way, some pretty unlikely folks can be the winners.
Totally agree. Surprised Clapton didn’t get points for inspiring ‘Rock Against Racism’.
Jeff beck is just incomparable, the best ever really
Although the live Cream "Crossroads" is still hella impressive !
I saw Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group - incredible! Also seen Eric during the Tears era. The centre piece of the show was when everyone except the bass and drummer left the stage and the 3 piece played and jammed Cream. Amazing to get a glimpse of that world. Both great.
I saw Claptin back when Santana was opening for him in support of the caravan S album which I really loved. I really didn't care if I saw Clapton or not. Well Santana totally sucked! While I'm still underwhelmed with Claptin, he put on a live show so good I remember it after all these years.
The riff category should’ve gone to Beck. Led Boots, Big Block, Becks Bolero, all incredible. Clapton didn’t even write the Layla riff
Thanks Andy, this was quite an enjoyable video. Great!
I love the Andy Edwards Show,and I am glad to be a Patreon.🙏🏻
Andy, mentioning Bobby Elliot made my day, even if you didn't mention his actual name. The first band record I bought in my life was by The Hollies, the start of my true musical journey. I can't stop smiling!
Yes, a surprising failure to mention Bobby Elliot by name. Or for context, also one of Ian Paice's fave drummers and dearest friends.
The Hollies still don't get the recognition they deserve. Probably never will now as they're largely forgotten. A discussion for another channel though.
@@PhilBaird1 Very true observation and best for another channel but seeing as this is a bit of a sidebar I'll throw this in. The Hollies were a very fine band but suffered from numerous debilitating faults, most notably
- they were a singles band;
- for the most part they didn't write their hits;
- they - for better or worse didn't transition authentically (remember their Carnaby St. kaftans?) with the times after the arrival of Cream, 'Sgt. Pepper's' etc.;
- though they had Allan Clarke and Graham Nash, those two didn't resonate like Lennon & McCartney or Jagger & Richards, nor did any of the players really resonate with the muso crowd like, say Clapton, Bruce and Baker;
- there was no tangible musical direction other than to score hit singles, which meant the lightweight 'Jennifer Eccles' was released at the peak of Hendrix, Cream, and even the Beatles delivering innovation;
- at a time when the trend shifted from singles to albums (circa '67), theirs were typically patchy and fell short of expectation (I have a couple);
- and they resisted Graham Nash's efforts to evolve them with the times, prompting him to leave for CS&N, at which point whatever plot there was suddently disappeared. The fact that the Nash-penned 'King Midas in Reverse' which didn't crack the Top 10, was cited as a failure (ditto their horrid take on the Beatles' 'If I Needed Someone') and they rejected more of his tunes as a result (including 'Marakech Express' and others) in favour 'The Hollies Sing Bob Dylan' album signalled their demise from dominance.
That they had some of their biggest-ever hits after his departure ('He Ain't Heavy'; 'The Air that I Breathe', 'Long Cool Woman'...) was somewhat ironic. So is the fact that it isBobby Elliot and Tony Hicks still have the band running, 60 years after their debut hit and long after the demise of Cream, Hendrix and the Beatles.
Still, the Hollies have always been a fine band who, as you indicate, didn't get the recognition they deserved. Ditto the Small Faces, the Move and so many others.
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All done with an incredible guitarist just behind your ear. Splendid.
Technical ability: Jeff Beck used a whammy bar, volume swells and harmonics - which Clapton didn’t do.
Clapton played very subtle harmonics actually. Listen to his solo on ‘Bell Bottom Blues’. I believe he’s playing upstroke pinch harmonics.
Without question Beck. There's a video somewhere of Clapton having Jeff perform "Since We've Ended as Lovers". The look on Clapton's face was like"you're not going to upstage me at my own show like Jimi did" and Eric gets out there and plays the most blustering leads since Cream. Beck woke his ass up big time.
Hmmm.. let me just watch that video for the 50th time. He obviously set the amp up earlier to sound like that.. coz he knew exactly what sound was about to happen
Yes, and Clapton's solo had nothing to do with the tune - it was more 'You're not going to outdo me like you did on 'Further On Up the Road' (from the Secret Policeman's Other Ball - watch it on RUclips). As a result he overplayed...like Prince did on 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'.
The Oxford Dictionary defines 'blustering' thusly: talk in a loud, aggressive, or indignant way with little effect.
Yes, I would agree with that. A blistering bit of riffage that was little more than a blast of bluster from someone who knew he was way out of his leage.
I think it was either Clapton or Page quoted as saying Beck was the man......And that's good enough for me.
Yea, yea, yea. All I can say is if you type “ Angels Footsteps “ into this platform and experience what a musician is capable of, you’ll know Jeff Beck is the one.
Absolutely! And try 'Seasons' - the two solos in that are amongst Jeff's best.
Great video. My favorite is the one I am listening to at that time.
Oc course we all know that Buddy Guy was riping roaring that on the West Side along with Otis Rush long before Beano 😉
“Strange Brew” was actually Clapton’s take on the blues song “Lawdy Mama” (Felix Pappalardi wrote the lyrics) 👍
They are such different players but your balanced view and judgement made it a worthwhile discussion Andy. Of course Jeff was next level (Like Jimi) but Eric was phenomenal in the sixties for his touch, tone, time, and attack. Styles have changed since then and he's no longer as influential. Neither is Jimi come to that. Thanks for your thoughtful insights and yet another enjoyable video.
As a fully qualified guitar princess, I’d love your take on drummers’ rankings/history/influence. Your house, your rules. 👍
It's always been Eric be honest and listen to all their work 🎸
Clapton has never done it for me despite his skills but I do like his playing on The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking and the Cream stuff. But Beck is another story... Will never be another like him.
good show, Andy, good show!
Do we need the superiometer for this one?
Yes, if only to confirm scientifically and empirically, once and for all, that Beck is indeed the better guitarist than Clapton. Then it shall be written in stone.
Jeff Beck has always been the best of the Yardbirds guitar maestroes. He always plowed new ground,while Clapton (and Page)stagnated in the mid-70's.
Don’t ever tire of listening to Zeppelin records because as a composer of music which includes SONGS Page is superior to both and most musicians. And of course Page had the rest of Zep to make those songs come alive. And of course Page knew what the hell he was doing in the studio.
Beck may have had the skill but never had the compositional nor songwriting skills nor does Clapton.
Page is magnificent.
You remind me of what Dave Kilminster said about Jimmy Page in a recent youtube interview I saw. Kilminster was asked to compare Page to Ritchie Blackmore. Kilminster immediately said he preferred Page because of his guitar composition. He made a very interesting statement about Page generally: “there is an incredible musician in his head that his guitar technique/ability can’t quite get to”.
Even Clapton says it's Beck!
oh come on andy,you know its jeff beck
Ok, Clapton has done some groundbreaking things in the early days but he has “lived” on that for 50 years - which is stagnation.
While Beck was trying new things throughout the whole of his career.
Off topic edit: I am reading now that John Marshall died on the 16th of September...
New to me but maybe you knew about it.
Gold tops were originally P-90 single coils. With Mayall and Cream, Clapton played later Les Pauls with humbucking pickups. His famous bluesbreaker Marshall (model 1962) was 2 x 12 inch speakers and approximately 30w (not 45w). Humbucking pickups + turned-up Marshall combo.
Should also mention that feedback with a solid-body Les Paul would be easier to control than semi-hollow Gibsons. Some have said that EC used a Treble Booster (basically a signal booster) but I don't believe he's verified that.
Apples and Oranges. Clapton took the soul of the better blues guitarists and gave it a whole new sound, then applied it to a new style of music. (Im talking about Cream now). He influenced every guitarist who followed. Jeff Beck was an anomaly. He started out exploring the sounds (and noises) of the electric guitar. It was a bit of a gimmick compared to Clapyons virtuosity. BUT THEN...when Clapton was resting on his laurels Jeff was continuing to grow. It was hit or miss for a while until "Blow By Blow" and it was as if both Jeff, and the guitar, were reinvented. Through the exploration of utilizing, "sounds" Jeff transcended music itself. His solos were more than notes. They were excursions, and explorations that shaped a tonal landscape. In short, comparing Clapton to Beck is like comparing Rembrandt to Van Gogh. Who's "better?"
Hmmm. Of course, Jeff Beck. He's played everything Clapton could do then left Eric is the dust. Granted, Eric never really tried to best himself like Beck did. Somewhere along the way, the fire was extinguished in Clapton. He played some nice stuff and did nice pretty things on his pop material. But whenever he tried things that were more progressive, Jingo, Black Magic Woman, In Memory of Elizabeth Reed, its just sad to see him trying and never making 'it.' Let's see what the Superior O Meter comes up with.
I love Clapton. I have just start listening to Beck. I thank you for this video. I love the stories.
I recommend watching the Live At Ronnie Scott's video. I think (for what little that's worth), purely as a guitarist, he's in a different league from Clapton. But Clapton can sing well, performs more accessible music and is a much better composer. These points favour Clapton as an all-round musician but they're sort of irrelevant to rating them as guitarists. Clapton is a one-trick pony - it's an absolutely great trick - but Beck continually reinvented himself and stretched himself throughout his career.
22:04 hilarious. when I went to a shop to buy my first electric guitar I tried to play this (on an amp). Everyone in the guitar shop laughed at me. Those old days were very cruel.
I agree with much of this, except 2 points. Popularity - Beck's guitar playing is responsible for the majority of his sales, but not necessarily Clapton. Many may have bought his stuff because of a single and not because of his guitar playing. Composition - I think this applies only to the composition of the guitar part not of the song itself.
Whenever anyone talks about Eric Clapton, I believe JJ Cale should get at least one shout-out - so there.
all the right notes mmmm
And Delaney & Bonnie Bramlett and their band (some of whom became the Dominos) for helping rescue Eric from his desperation of trying to find his guitar and singing voice. Go listen to him on 'Delaney & Bonnie On Tour with Eric Clapton' or Clapton's self-titled solo debut, which was essentially a D&B album with Eric singing. One of those tunes, coincidentally, was JJ Cale's 'After Midnight'.
I actually respect Eric’s anti-vaccine stance. Nowadays that takes courage especially when as an established musical artist you’re expected you’re expected to toe the establishment line…
Looks like Eric may have been on the right side of history all along on Covid and the vaccines.
Eric was not "anti-vaccine" because there was never a covid vaccine. There was only a worldwide public experiment.
@@PhilBaird1 yes, RS cancelled him.
Totally get your reasoning, but you have missed out two categories... Improvisational inventiveness and chills down the spine. Beck supreme. Wallington roolz.
I have to admit that I am biased towards Jeff Beck but this analysis was very thoughful and informative and opened my eyes to Clapton's talent a bit more.
🌠🌠Duude...Fantastic Video ..Glad I Finally got 2 c a video of u PLAYIN on JCM'S Zeppelin Video's...Which r Also FANTASTIC...
Clapton became a persona non grata because of his views the past few years. The music press can't deny his worth but they do their best to downplay it. I saw an article in the British press that threw buckets of dirt in order to demonize him. It's pathetic. Politically driven arguments about artists...we saw that once, they called it 'Entartete Kunst'. For me, personally, it's Beck because of the wider range (rock, jazz, fusion,...). All praise to Clapton for staging that live event in honour of Jeff. That was wonderful. May Eric live long and prosper.
by any measure, without doubt - beck
JEFF BECK!!!
Didn't have time for a long answer Eric all the way 🎸 and he can write and sing it's harder to sing and play 😁
When I first heard Disraeli Gears I was blown away by the vibrato sound during Clapton’s playing. Before this most guitarists would use a whammy bar to get this effect. Clapton did it with his fingers bending the strings. No rock guitar player that I know was doing this at the time. It was revolutionary. Soon after this album came out, all the rock guitarists were learning it.
Saw Jeff a couple of times at Symphony Hall. He had a similar presence and relationship to the rest of the band as Miles had on his Tutu and Amandla tours.
Andy, this is a really special video. I almost didn’t watch it because I figured it was a foregone conclusion that Beck would win. In this present era, Clapton had been disrespected, maligned, and marginalized. 🙁Jeff Beck was among the very greatest innovators on the electric guitar to be sure, but to not acknowledge Clapton’s contributions to rock music is a huge mistake. Thanks for your acknowledgment
You fit the mad scientist mold with this one. Bravo. Agree with most points, but still pick Beck.
What a pleasant surprise, good job, couldn't agree more Eric gets the nod, but I do love Jeff. Both were early influences.
Andy..You can shout “ships ahoy” from the rooftops for all I care! 😂😂
Fair result
Great info/opinion. Brought to mind a quote from Ritchie Blackmore “We all have a lot to thank Eric Clapton for” (practically .. Ritchie played one of Eric’s old Stratocasters)
For me it’s Jeff all day but I can appreciate how great/groundbreaking Eric is .. and he is God after all. 😀
Beck looks so cool in the Yardbirds scene in Antonioni’s Blow Up. He gets the static and says screw it as he smashes it and throws it into the crowd.
A couple things about that bit with the Yardbirds. First, notice that Jeff didn't use his Les Paul, just one of several cheap guitars brought in for the filming.
Second, Antonioni wanted the Who for that sequece. When that band's manager, Kit Lambert, asked Yardbirds' manager Simon Napier-Bell the fee he should charge, Napier-Bell recommended £10,000, knowing it would not be accepted. And he was right, at which point he offered the Yardbirds.
Beck was good for that bit because he was a moody bastard when he was you. Indeed, the only album he did with the band, 'Yardbirds' (aka Roger the Engineer) he was apparently excluded from the group sessions, only to be called in when need to do his parts. Like Clapton, he too was moody and arrogant, both frustrated that they were incapable of having things their way at the time.
@@MrCherryJuice also, most obviously, the song is Stroll On not Train Kept a Rollin’ apparently due to copyright issues. I don’t care about the moody arrogance, Beck looks good in that scene. The original point of my post.
Good point well made about why Clapton was so much lower in the RS 250 guitarist list. Personally I'm similar to you in that I have far more Beck than Clapton, but I do have more Clapton than you seem to have. Growing up one of the first records I had was a Yardbirds compialtion with both Clapton and Beck on it and both were, to me at that time, great, and what Clapton did on the Beano album was a real game changer.
On another note I went to the Rick Beato rant and noted that his pronounciation of John McLaughlin mirrors yours - so as with the recent JMcL post where he pronounces his own name many of us now need to - actually must - amend how we say it.
You have done an admirable amends for the sniping you've aimed towards EC and do a fine job defending the profundity of his achievement, but for all his foundational importance in the creation of rock guitar , EC peaked as a player with Layla. His solo, perfection that they are, are seamless reshuffling of what he's done decades ago. He's only been refining what he's already created in a much earlier time. Beck , though, remain on the move, evolving, changing his style of playing, absorbing new styles outside the blues from which he came and merging everything that was wholly his own. Beck went so far as to not just change the way rock guitar was approached by a generation, but actually changed his technique to create the new sounds he imagined. Comparing him to Miles Davis maybe a bit much, but so far as premiere continually challenging himself and innovating to the end of their time, my vote would be for Beck.
For me, it’s Beck all day. It’s not possible to get an objective comparison between two artists; there are way too many variables. You’ve proved it by choosing Beck as your favorite despite the points going to Clapton. Beck is by far the better guitarist. I saw a video (wish I had a link to it) where Clapton and Beck were playing together onstage. Clapton did his usual thing when he was soloing and then turned it over to Beck…and the music just exploded. Beck fried the stage with his amazingness. Love your channel, and love, love Rain!
In the 1960s when Clapton played on stage he stood "stock still!" People used to talk about it.
I am making this comment before I watch Andy and what the Super-i-ometer decides. Jeff Beck is the King . No guitarist is more relevant, more influential and has evolved and grew as a guitarist more than Jeff. I have seen all the best live. Nobody come close to Jeff`s passion, soul and creativity. I have seen him several times live and got a signature once. Lovely man. No contest against any ......any other guitarist. Now lets see what the Super-i-ometer says.
Andy, come on the Superiometer is a ruse, but you are pretty obvious about it. Here is how your commenters have rated Eric vs. Jeff. 20 in favor of Eric, 72 in favor of Jeff, and 5 gave them a tie. If that is a more objective Superiometer, Jeff gets the nod. In record sales, Eric wins by a landslide. If you look at peer respect, I think Jeff wins - comments by Eric, Jimmy Page, Brian May, David Gilmore, Joe Perry, Billy Gibbons, etc. Also, although Eric has provided a number of great accompaniements to singers, I believe Jeff has done more. Here are some of the singers who have chosen to perform/record with him - females : Chrysie Hynde, Tina Turner, Imelda May, Beth Hart, Diana Ross, Suzi Quatro, Wynona Judd, Cindi Lauper...males: Mick Jagger, Sting, Luciano Pavarotti, Ozzie Osburn, Paul Rogers, Van Morrison, Toots Hibbert, Tom Jones, Robert Plant, Buddy Guy, Dion, Stevie Wonder, Roger Waters, Roger Taylor etc. Beck was able to make his strat sing with the singers - many times with tones and phrasing that were a near perfect blend. The Superiometer needs a tune up.
Great video. I'm just surprised you don't know that Claptons most famous riff (you even sang it) was played and written by Duane Allman.
Yes I did, EC wrote the song which was going to be a ballad. Jim Gordon the drummer wrote the piano end (obviously before he went mad) This is perhaps the one weakness in my assessment here, but there are still a ton of EC penned riffs out there compared to JB
For all of Clapton's blues prowess, he never even tried to play slide until he heard Duane play it! And even when he did, it still wasn't half as good as brother Duane
Jeff Beck was better hands down. Clapton can't play what Beck could, but Beck could play everything in Clapton's repertoire. Beck was always pushing boundaries, trying to extend himself as a player, whereas Clapton stagnated and stuck to the same old blues licks he'd been playing for years.
I'd be curious to see how the Superiometer would do with Beatles Vs. Stones. I think I know which way it would swing. But with you at the controls... who knows?
The Kings of Tone
I think the superiometer needs some fine tuning so that different parameters can be weighted instead of every parameter being of equal importance.
Beck is my fave but great to hear Clapton get his props. Jack Bruce said that with Cream, Clapton was Ornette Colman, but did not know it.
I know Andy said he prefers Hendrix or Trower for live guitar trio listening, but I strongly recommend giving "N.S.U." from Cream Live" a serious listen.
There is an intricate level of improvised harmonic, and rhythmic interplay between the three musicians that is unmatched - regardless of music genre! (IMHO)
Clapton's playing here needs to be heard in the context of how it works with the (way out) bass and drums - as good as it gets!
Excellent comment. On the money. That NSU performance is incendiary!
Never enough!
Bravo Andy, for showing us all how easily information can be manipulated to present any view. By your method of parsing the criteria, it almost makes sense. Almost. While I do have great appreciation for your reminding us all of Clapton's brilliant moments, you do Jeff Beck a great disservice in the comparison. You call Jeff Beck "flavor of the month" because he died?? Since I lack your high tech super-i-ometer, I had to do things the old fashion way. I blindfolded myself after having surrounded by Eric Clapton's half century+ worth of albums and threw stones on them. For every stinker I landed on, I deducted points and for every good one I added points. I then did the same with Jeff Beck. Surely, not too random because if we went album by album, Clapton would have lost by much more. That's not flavor of the month. That's flavor every month for 50 years. Clapton came on the scene as a 16 yr old phenome and he had about 7 brilliant years. After that, not so much. Compare that to Jeff Beck's consistently brilliant 50+ years. If one compares the lumens produced in sum total far exceed. Also, while it's a pretty terrific story that you stuck your head in Clapton's amp and really appreciated just how good he was, one only needed hear Beck in any circumstance to get how brilliant his playing was. Lastly, I know you love mocking people who complain about basing popularity as a factor but coming from the guy talking about how mediocre pop music is, um yeah, those inflated numbers from mediocre pop music should be rewarded. I know, I know... take it up with the super-i-ometer. LOL
Apples and oranges .
I went to a Clapton concert back in the day (in Melbourne) the most boring show I've ever been to, and on the other hand I went to see Neil Young, one of the best concerts I've been to. beck could play anything Clapton ever could, but could you imagine Clapton trying to play Nadia...not a hope in hell.
Yes it was Jack's riff
Clapton played in an Albion shirt. Game to Clapton.
oppurtunity knocks,the clapometer
Writing this before watching your superiometer but it's Jeff for me!
This video was enjoyable, and at least you kept it civil lol I was expecting things to get out of hand to be honest. There’s a lot of passionately sensitive lunatics out there! 😂😂
Glad you enjoyed it... Even I like Jeff Beck more but this current thing where people knock Eric denies his huge input into electric guitar playing
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Understood & agree 100%. I’m in a way guilty of giving that impression also, but I do understand the impact of All the great ones, having been a guitar player.. most people don’t appreciate what it takes for somebody to achieve that level of notoriety; it’s a shame really, when you really think about it.. even if one becomes a great player, sustaining that decade after decade is a hell of a feat.. another observation is when you die, you get elevated respect, lol.. hence, when Eric leaves us and joins Jeff, people will be talking about how great Eric was in terms of innovation from the early days, his writing abilities, et cetera.. we can be certain of that..😉
There's a reason why Jeff did the worship hands towards Eric when he came out on stage at the Ronnie Scott's gig, and you just explained it. For that, I would like to thank you. I love Beck, but never really understood the Guitar God status of Clapton, but now I do. That Super-i-ometer thingy is pretty cool!
Chong: “One day I took some acid and played Black Sabbath at .78 speed.”
Cheech: “Yeah? And then what happened?”
Chong: “I saw… GOD!
Apples and oranges as you pointed out. IMO Clapton's best stuff was on the Blues Breakers album. Beck's best, again to me, was Blow by Blow. Beck was amazing and innovative in his style. Clapton was traditional and really good at times. BTW, technical skill is a ridiculous parameter for any blues based music. It's more feeling and touch. Otherwise Elmore James would be considered a terrible guitarist. In fact too much technical skill playing the blues can detract from the style. And also, Sunshine of Your Love was overshadowed by Jimi Hendrix at that time (and supposedly modeled after Hendrix' sound).
Clapton’s influence is greater for 2 reasons. One is that his music is much more basic & accessible to most players. Secondly, Clapton is much easier to copy, Beck almost impossible.
Jeff !!!
Nigel Tufnel was better.
I hate how good your arguments are!
But it's honest.
As a child, I found Clapton I was satisfied
But as my ear grew, I could digest more sounds.
Then I found Beck better.
The same here, i love Jeff so much, this is an exercise in objectivity and trying to argue for a revevaluation of EC
Nigel Tufnel FOREVER!!!!
Jeff Beck hands down, no contest.
Andy, great video. Just a slight correction here: Freddy King did indeed play a Gibson Les Paul Gold top which inspired Eric Clapton to buy a Les Paul. However Eric purchased a Gibson Sunburst 1960 model, not a Gold Top. There is no such guitar as a Gold Top Sunburst, it’s one or the other…. Cheers…😊
Thanks for the info
Andy, I hope you don’t mind one more correction: Ed Van Halen did indeed invent the Super Strat giving guitarists the feel of a Fender with the tone of a Gibson when he placed a Humbucker pickup in a Strat, and he was innovative on the Strat tremolo bar, ‘Eruption’ and the entire first VH album was recorded with a stock Fender Strat tremolo, but he didn’t invent the locking Floyd Rose tremolo system… Mr Floyd Rose did, allowing guitarist to use the tremolo bar with out going out of tune. Interestingly Jeff Beck did not use a Floyd Rose tremolo very much.
Got to be Clapton
Beck, no question.
Never doubt the Supiorometer.
Another brilliant video. Clapton is God 👌🏻But man Jeff Beck could wail!