Do you really need a full electrical system in your van? Maybe an ALLPOWERS R2500 is enough!
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- A lot of folks have been asking if they really need a full electrical system. In Today's video im going to share the differences between an all-in-one power station and a full electrical system build. The power station technology has improved a lot over the years. Depending on your Lifestyle, You might do just fine with a simple power station. Check out today's video and decide for yourself.
0:00 - Intro
1:16 - Power station features
4:23 - Cooking with a power station
8:55 - Solar panel Test
14:05 Power Station vs full electrical build pros & cons
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Other big expenses of building a system are all of the tools necessary to do a legit build and all of the different sizes and lengths of wires. From 0000 awg for the batteries to something as small as 16 awg, depending on your build.
Everything is available on Amazon, no big tools required.
Yes, you’ll definitely need to invest in tools 💪🏻
Well, you don't need 4/0 cabling. You just go with 2 AWG and a 48V battery... and that's only really if you want to be able to scale to 5000W (100A). If you target 2500W, now the cabling is only 4 AWG. The biggest mistake people make (constantly make actually) is building discrete systems with 12V instead of 24V or 48V. These days I just go straight to 48V, there's no point using a lower voltage. It makes everything easier and cheaper.
Your channel is growing quickly.... congratulations!
I think the best route for new builders. Especially people worried about technology. Increasing is to wire up all your lights and any devices that you may have as a normal system With devices and breaker boxes built in But going to a female 30/50 amp rv plug and a. Andersen 12v feed that you could simply plug your power station into to power the vehicle and then down the road. If you upgrade your power system, you just plug it right back into the same 2 plugs. Easy peesy!
That’s a great solution! Have both
One of my favorite sayings is one is none and two is one. Having a backup is never a bad idea!
Sorry to disagree with something you stated ..... One CAN (as I did), wire up outlets all over one's RV, Cargo trailer, etc.... and run those leads back to one point, where a Power station will be positioned, and "plug-in" all circuits to the Power station .... It has worked PERFECTLY for ALL my electrical needs throughout my 16' custom Cargo trailer !! Also solar & dc to dc charging of said power station .... I am NEVER without power !
I’m happy that worked for you!
My first van power was DIY. In 2022 I bought an Ecoflow Delta 2 that easily plugged into my existing solar panels. Very impressed using 110v home appliances.
Have you figured out the cost difference of your Delta vs the DIY system?
I’m happy to hear this!
@@joeblow1942 My DIY was built 2019 with a single 100 amp hour Battle Born, $999. Fuses, wiring, tools, solar charge controller, inverter came to $800.
The DIY barely ran my refrigerator and a hot pot. Today that would buy amazing portable power. My needs are met with one EcoFlow Delta 2 I paid $799 July 2023.
I was very concerned about an all in one unit breaking. A few times I contacted customer service and they were helpful. It runs 24/7 powering my DC cooler, USB devices and AC cooker. I would not go any smaller.
Use two solar panels, both 100 watt HQST monocrystalline $110 each. Purchased July 2019. They have always been mounted to a mini van roof rack without issue.
Hope my story helps someone.
I think it all depends on where you live.
I live in a cold snowy area and to make it a week with no sun i use,
800w solar, 4-100ah batteries and a Bluetti 200p.
Bluetti runs all 120 devices, microwave, induction cook top ect.
Batteries run all 12v stuff, fridge/freezer, diesel heater, lights, fans and charging devices.
Oh and to charge the Bluetti.
Yeah, this would not be ideal for cold snowy locations.
Great comparison! Very helpful! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Brad, wish you would have visited us when you were in Arizona. We could have shown you how an all in one system runs our whole compound.
AC units, deep freezer, refrigerators, air fryer, Vita-mix, fish pond pumps, and much more. When we do our Ambulace or box truck build, we will be using an all in one unit from either Hysolis or Oupes.
I tried to reach out to you several times but you never provided me an email address or number to contact you
Great comparison Brad. Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
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My van (T1N Sprinter) already has nearly 280,000 miles on it. So, I have decided to go with a power station system, which easily transfers to another vehicle (or cabin), in case my van needs to be replaced.
thats a great choice
I've been eating a lot of sweet potatoes lately too. They are so good. I usually just eat them plain from the air fryer. Since seeing your roast video, I want to get an Instapot. Take care!
Do it! Instant pot is the best
that was the best breakdown of an all in one power station versus a custom build that I have heard. Thanks. Any idea how customer service is with that company?
Thank you! I always try to bring the facts 😎 they are very responsive via email
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Power station without a doubt
not a bad choice !
Goodmorning Vehicular dwellers. I think the all in one is perfect for Vehicles and small vans. It's alot of work to build a system and run outlets. Im getting the Kitchen vent fan next.(I have a Box Truck so ive been building my system as I go.)Enjoy your day Nomad Brad! Thanks for the mug of Expresso last week.
You’re right about that, power stations are much less work! I’m glad you enjoyed that espresso!
Two other massive benefits of using one of these over a custom-built setup are warranty, and you can bring the battery with you to use on anything you want.
youre right about that
Thank you!
you're welcome
I’m building out a complete systwm
I agree with you super Dave!
I love your videos
Thank you!
Nice video
Thank you 😎
I agree with you Brad, you do NOT need a full system setup, I'm not a Full Timer per se, however I do have a MUCH smaller power station that runs my fridge quite well & I am looking to purchase another power station to run my tea kettle or even charge up my laptop.. my lights are battery operated and it is just enough for what I need early mornings or in the evenings.
Though I would love to have a full set up but.. I am working on it.. - Thanks for the input MUCH appreciated
I’m happy to hear this!
I have been using Ecoflow delta for 5 years and it's been enough for me. I made a video showing everything powered.
Very nice, they make a solid unit!
You're still going to want a system set up in your van/cabin (etc). Ceiling vent, interior lights, etc. and have it plugged in to the power system. How do you set up a charging system for the stand-alone unit to have the vehicle charge while driving?
You would connect a power inverter to your starting battery and plug the power cord from the power station into that inverter
For a power station you just plug the vehicle 12V into the power station... hopefully switched 12V so it is only on when the vehicle is turned on. When presented with 12V on the "solar" input, nearly all power stations these days limit the current to 8A (100W). So its a free trickle-charge, basically. Dead simple.
For a discrete DIY build there are several solutions. A DC-DC is a decent solution for 12V and 24V solar systems, but for 48V it is typically easier to install a small inverter and 4A AC-to-DC battery charger (roughly 250W).
You cannot generally use a medium or large 12V inverter from the starting battery to the power station, but it depends on how much power the power station pulls when charging from "AC". Larger power stations can pull enormous amounts of power... like 1500W+, which obviously won't work well from a starter battery with a 12V inverter. You can easily over-stress and burn-out the alternator, as well as drain the starter battery dry or over-discharge it or cause the lead-acid to gas-out.
So care must be taken. Its gonna depend on a lot of factors.
-Maatt
In my 36 foot skoolie I will be doing a mixture! With running outlets 12 volt and 120 volt outlets and lines, rooftop solar , shore power and 8000w generator with the primary power source being a Anker 767 powerhouse. Right now trying to decide the best way to transfer power sources, looking for something a little more clean tech than a big red ABC battery switch. Although yes it will be necessary for the charging of the Anker 767 when on shore power. Any suggestions?❤
Yes, you can install 2x automatic transfer switches. Each switch has 2 inputs. Inputs from 1 switch can be shore power/ generator. Feed that output into an input on the 2nd switch with the other input being your power station. There are RUclips videos on this. It’s all automatic
That turnkey system really makes since if you don't have the skill, money or ability to someone to implement ur electronically set up. But could u power ur AC on one of those?
Yes you could! You would definitely want the expansion batteries and max solar input
id like to see you review the Optivolt Pulse solar panels that work in the shade and are 25x better than the run of the mill panels. thats what im planning to slap on my box truck!
That sounds very interesting 🤔
How much does this one weight? Would it make sense to have two smaller, less powerful, separate stations for different areas to eliminate running wires all over? Like, a larger one in the kitchen area for cooking devices and a smaller one near the "bedroom" for things like lights, fans, and charging devices?
Yes, that’s a great idea. I know a few folks who do it that way
I want a self built unit,if any component fails I can easily replace it and be back up with less down time and minimal cost instead of sending it out to be repaired or replaced!
I have built a few diy solar systems. Mine started out at 40 watts and now i am at nearly 2000 watts in panels. Everything has been upgraded including the wiring with larger cables all purchased on Amazon.
I agree with that logic! I still prefer a self built system 💪🏻
Yes, this is why a custom system is nice
Harbor freight Preaditor 5000 and a portable power station.
Brad your review and comparison is explained very well. 👍⚡️💪
Question: Is this something they sent you free for review? 🤔 Did you buy it to review? It wasn't very clear.
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They sent me the unit for free but I don’t get paid for the review/video. I always keep it honest. 💪🏻
I heard box truck conversions are not allowed in national parks. have you found that to be true?
I haven’t checked but that could be true. There is so much beautiful land, I never went to a national park
lol awesome!!
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I have a little Jackery. I like it but I would love to have a lil fridge. I will need solar for that luxury. My Jackery charges my basic stuff. My phone, fan, & a lil speaker. I’m in a suv.
A jackery goes a long way! You definitely want solar to keep a fridge going
My question is can you do a dc to dc with the all power r2500 ???
Not a dc to dc but you could connect an inverter to the engine battery and plug in the ac quick charger. That would work!
My All Powers unit breaker popped and would not reset.
It took almost 3 months to get them to replace the unit.
Customer service to China was terrible!
🤕
It doesn't look like you can recharge off your alternator. It's a no-go if you're just depending on the Sun or using a wall outlet.
Correct, there’s not a direct alternator charging option on this one
@@nomadbrad503 looks like ecoflow has a alternator device now
@@chrislconley27 they actually just sent me a full kit with the delta 2, wave 2 ac, and alternator charger. I’ll be reviewing it in a couple weeks
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Can this start up a 5kw diesel heater?
If the diesel heater is less than 10 amps, yes
I Ike the Jackery 3000watts because it’s portable. I just need to run my ac and microwave.
That’s a good one!
With a custom build you can swap out individual components, if the station fails its basically scrap and you loose your full investment
I agree with you!
What about wiring to the electrical panel
This power station doesn’t wire into an electrical panel. You would need a custom electrical build for that
Costco EcoFlow $500/kWh compared to others at $1,000 to $1,500/kWh for others. (Licensed Electrician and licensed Professional Engineer that prefers no brainer cost effective off the shelf systems)
thanks for the info!
How many solar panels are currently being destroyed across the US?
Including entire solar farms.
It’s a bad option in many locations.
I have been energy independent for 6 years with nothing but solar panels. It works great when you follow the good weather like I do
we have a bluitti ac200 max
Nice! How are you liking it?
is the battery lithium?
Yes
You are addressing system engineer; requirements analysis, and implementation. From a consumer perspective, a turn key integrated system has the appeal of simplicity until the requirements change. A system of subsystems has some benefits of future obsolescence, repair, redundancy, and expansion. Continuing a theme from your previous video, (ruclips.net/video/TcwbF9WuqF0/видео.html), we inevitably increase requirements and over specify. A 12 volt deep cycle, wire, fuses and a couple female cigarette plugs (sourced from Radio Shack and Sears Auto center) was once sufficient!
I agree with you!
My Delta Pro with 400 watts is ENOUGH
I’m happy to hear this ❤️
Hilarious how fast China is improving battery tech and America is all like the best we got is gig work and live in a 400 ft ADU. Crazy times.
😂 you’re right about that
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I am old enough to have lived in a van with zero electric at all, after I exited the Army. I worked and lived during the day, and went to sleep on my full size bed in my Chevy extended van at night. I would sometimes use these things called candles or oil lamps, to do this other thing we used to do, read books. I did get fancy once and borrowed an extension cord, a clip on light and a portable fan from a relative who I was visiting. I am just being tongue in cheek, I have already decided if I build out another van, then I am going to use a simple electrical build, a lithium battery, charge controller, panel(s), and inverter (Of course with proper fuses, wire, etc), I probably forgot something but, I wasn't prepared to give a lecture on a subject I came across on a random video recommended to me by RUclips..lol. The wife and I use very little electricity and according to the stats on our bill, we use 80% less than others in our service area. I am not a fan of the AIO devices because if one part fails on the device, you are out of luck, a single component is easier to diagnose and replace in my opinion.
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