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  • @needsomewater
    @needsomewater 2 года назад +2

    Stumbling across your channel has been an absolute joy my good sir. Great video like always, keep it up!

  • @Vilmir
    @Vilmir 2 года назад +16

    Great to see you having a review unit! Your hard, qualitative work is recognized.

  • @joeyboy8200
    @joeyboy8200 2 года назад +2

    Stellar review. To the point, informative and covered everything including those sharp edges!

  • @MoshiCola
    @MoshiCola 2 года назад

    Blooper at the end was great. Top notch content on this channel

  • @suhaimiss7322
    @suhaimiss7322 2 года назад

    what a great simple reviews & recommendation for this case. Looking forward for this 11 liters in depth build guides. Thank you...!

  • @UncleTabaByte
    @UncleTabaByte 2 года назад +29

    Your channel made me look at ITX builds again. I''m planning an ITX build for travelling as a backup pc/media server and you've been a great resource :) Thanks!

  • @DanmTheSystem
    @DanmTheSystem 2 года назад

    This case looks sharp....too sharp. That paper rip was shocking. Great review!

  • @ghost_of_m403
    @ghost_of_m403 2 года назад +1

    That paper test might have saved me some blood. YIKES! Thanks for the review.

  • @belema22
    @belema22 2 года назад +6

    Great video as always! I generally watch Optimumtech first (im Australian) and then yours right after. I find you really get into the nitty gritty and things that many others don't consider.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +2

      Thank you for the compliment!

  • @ryanputnam9462
    @ryanputnam9462 2 года назад

    Great review as always. I'm going to keep this case in mind... It's very tempting

  • @_dracz_
    @_dracz_ 2 года назад

    Another quality review, thank you!

  • @JkmgChannel
    @JkmgChannel 2 года назад

    Awesome! planning to build one soon. Thank you for sharing 😍

  • @rockyyz89
    @rockyyz89 2 года назад

    Love that Outtake :D

  • @gengstapo
    @gengstapo Год назад

    This case is really good. I just bought & setup my rig few days back

  • @Andreas01
    @Andreas01 2 года назад

    This case is really nice, might be getting it for my next build.

  • @nudexdragon7987
    @nudexdragon7987 2 года назад +1

    hell yeah my man gets a sponsor and a review sample lfg

  • @kaizerespada
    @kaizerespada 2 года назад +8

    This case is mighty impressive IMO, only 11L but with modern GPU support & still having great thermals. I hope you will be doing an in-depth series for this case like you did for the NR200. I thoroughly enjoyed that series and they were immensely helpful when I was building my own NR200. I'm now looking to do a 2nd SFF build and looks like this is it! Just pulled the trigger on this case.

    • @cat-.-
      @cat-.- Год назад

      I decided to build my first custom PC in my life and this is the one that I did :)
      I watched more than 4 hours of tutorial to make sure I do everything correctly in one go, and I watched the verge PC build supercut too for good measure

  • @mesut7825
    @mesut7825 Год назад

    Thanks man. Great review

  • @jxemc
    @jxemc 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video! Please do one on air cooling with this case

  • @spektrumB
    @spektrumB 2 года назад

    Just order one. Should be fun building it this weekend.

  • @moevor
    @moevor 2 года назад

    Phenomenal review 👍🏿 thanks

  • @GonzoGaming22
    @GonzoGaming22 Год назад

    Nice ending lollll did you scratch the front panel ? lol, Love your reviews and tutorials ,You're the best out there!!!

  • @needcoffeepls
    @needcoffeepls 2 года назад +2

    Awesome review. Comparable GPU support at 3L less than it's cousins is really impressive. Looks to have a nice bit of height clearance as well for GPU blocks. Would love to see a custom loop in this guy.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      Cheers. Might have to go without a res in this one but the flat EK res can potentially overlap a narrow enough gpu block.

  • @jovialvibes5962
    @jovialvibes5962 2 года назад +3

    Great review! The timing on this case is perfect. I am curious if this case would be a candidate for a GPU deshroud mod. Maybe even for slim 120s if there isn't enough room for a 25mm fan.

  • @gammacyn
    @gammacyn 2 года назад +1

    cant wait to see a custom loop :D

  • @ikhyunkim6433
    @ikhyunkim6433 2 года назад

    Mate, you got sponsered! Great work!

  • @minibotpc
    @minibotpc 2 года назад +1

    I have May batch and i can confirm the edges are not sharp! It's kinda rounded slightly and its nice to the touch. I did a full Custom loop in mine with a external MoRa360 radiator so gave me abit more room in the case for cable management and tube running. Really nice and quiet case with excellent thermals!

  • @oGoggles
    @oGoggles 2 года назад +8

    Would love a comparison between this and the new H1 v2, if you're looking to review that case any time soon. Great video as always.

  • @johnnynighthawk156
    @johnnynighthawk156 2 года назад

    Nice review, Wong.

  • @rong.2457
    @rong.2457 10 месяцев назад

    I’m doing a build with this case this weekend…in an AM5 build with the Ryzen 7 7800x3d and a Radeon RX6800 on a Gigabyte Aorus Ultra board…same AIO as used in your build…I’m going to change out the fans. Wish me luck. Thanks for the in depth video….I have subscribed.

  • @skele84
    @skele84 2 года назад

    Hi. Would it be possible to route those tubes below the psu? Awesome review once again, good job mate!

  • @mdinelle
    @mdinelle 2 года назад

    Allright now... I will be selling my NR200P ! Great review!

  • @zurdo_1981
    @zurdo_1981 2 года назад

    Great review!!!!! Looking forward to the video with air cooling (IS-60 evo without the 120 mm fan?) If it is much worse than with an AIO for medium spec CPUs

  • @binuweerarathne1216
    @binuweerarathne1216 2 года назад

    Absolutely brilliant, you go into so much detail. I know this question has been asked but is there room for a deshroud? My Zotac 3080 fans sound like a hoover and I can't stand them even with an undervolt.

  • @tegkgiof
    @tegkgiof 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video. Can I test with air cooling?

  • @hemlock3577
    @hemlock3577 2 года назад

    Just received mine in the mail today. Edges don’t feel that sharp (so far). Maybe they took your advice into consideration?
    Also want to say thanks for the excellent overview. Your coverage was a big part of my decision making process to size down to the A4-H2O from my current NZXT H210.

  • @erikmckenna3583
    @erikmckenna3583 2 года назад

    I'm planning to switch from a meshify C to this case and I've been scouring the internet to find data on thermals with the 3080 XC3. This video was exactly what I needed! Honestly, the thermals are not as bad as I was expecting. Is the 3080 undervolted in this video?

  • @namnathanielmai
    @namnathanielmai 2 года назад

    if possible, please consider looking into the Aklla A4 Pro / Pro Max and Aklla A5 itx case, those are very interesting.

  • @brandensorensen9411
    @brandensorensen9411 2 года назад +2

    Planning on doing a Ryzen 9 5900x and rtx 3080 build in this case. Would the thermals be good enough for gaming and light photo/video work?

  • @CristopherYusuke
    @CristopherYusuke 2 года назад

    just waiting for white version of this case, will be so sick

  • @BelliSenior
    @BelliSenior 2 года назад +8

    i am in love with this case, hoping it will come to Indonesia because it ticks all my boxes, kinda relieved I haven't made my new PC yet but wonder how this will compare to the nr200 and the new H1v2

    • @bobbib4627
      @bobbib4627 2 года назад

      I don't think it will beat NR200, since NR200 got much better airflow in it.
      But pretty sure it can beat H1V2, the AIO in H1V2 in smaller and the airlow is not so good just like A4H2O, but the difference might not be so significant.
      and it's ready stock on Enterkomputer, you should get one asap if you haven't!

  • @joconnell
    @joconnell 2 года назад

    I see you swapped out your ram for some vengeance lpx in the final build? I've just ordered a h20 and I'm up in the air about my AIO. How is the noise from the coolermaster's pump? I was used to using the asetek 645lt in a dan a4 with their gen 6 pump and the whine was a little annoying. The bequiet 240 seems decent with longer pump cables plus the EK basic seems good for noise with the shorter cables like your coolermaster here - whatcha think?

  • @disco.volante
    @disco.volante 2 года назад +1

    Great review! Unfortunately it won‘t fit the MSI Gaming X Trio cards, at least according to the official specs as these cards are 1mm too long.

  • @vlmxs
    @vlmxs 2 года назад

    Can you pls test it with low profile air cooler and water cooled GPU? I would really like to do a build, but got myself NR200P last year :D

  • @bkvm96
    @bkvm96 2 года назад

    Please do a video on the new fractal design torrent nano. Can you also compare sizes with the nr200. Thank you!

  • @GearsScrewlose
    @GearsScrewlose 2 года назад

    I wonder how much custom water cooled stuff you can stuff in it.

  • @AxleLotl
    @AxleLotl Год назад +1

    I wonder if this build is one of those SFF cases that would greatly benefit from custom length cabling to help avoid clutter and give the chassis more breathing room to shuffle air about
    Nice video! Can't wait to pick up this case

    • @mikeymaiku
      @mikeymaiku 8 месяцев назад

      it is, depending on the gpu you might see the 12 pin connector eyesore and custom cables lets you have the card sit without stressing the cable connections. ( stopped paying attention to the nvidia 12 pin issues so things maybe different connector wise)

  • @Camo0o0n
    @Camo0o0n 2 года назад

    How would the temps be affected by having the AIO be intake instead of exhaust for better cpu temperatures as in a lot of builds with this case the cpu either throttles or gets very close to throttling.

  • @joshua33112
    @joshua33112 2 года назад

    I'm interested in how well an aio liquid cooled GPU will fit this case should you choose to air cool the CPU and leave the 240 rad space for your graphics card

  • @ssjsongoku29ps4gaming8
    @ssjsongoku29ps4gaming8 2 года назад

    Does the ASUS B660I look like it will fit with an AIO oriented with ouputs on the left? I want to build a SFF but the ITX options for the new intel cards doesn't seem great. Aorus has bios issues, And ASUS is super expensive for their Z board, and cooler compatibility is poor. The ASUS B series board looks like it has more space but IDK how good it is. I saw your last video but I want to run a 12700. I have a K version but I don't care about overclocking much.

  • @TeamTDU
    @TeamTDU Год назад

    16:55 wow that sharpness is bonkers

  • @rachelcheung2247
    @rachelcheung2247 2 года назад

    Waiting for your review on NZXT H1 V2 and the H1 vs Meshy video!

  • @ethelinecimatu
    @ethelinecimatu 2 года назад

    do you know if they fixed the sharp edges yet?

  • @OldDolio312
    @OldDolio312 2 года назад +1

    Aaagghhh I just love my Meshilicious but can’t fight the itch to go even smaller. Wish all manufactures used mesh panels tbh. But you’re telling me it’s showing the same if not better thermals than the Mesh? 👀

  • @Te_LaSoul
    @Te_LaSoul 2 года назад

    What size 6-32 screws would I need? 3mm?

  • @coyotex850
    @coyotex850 2 года назад

    any idea what the maximum height clearance for the ram is?

  • @richardgomez8010
    @richardgomez8010 2 года назад

    I was thinking the same thing about putting storage mounts in the front!
    Also to be clear is there not enough space for fan grills?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      If your rad is on the thinner side then maybe. A typical 240 at 27, plus 25-26mm for fans, you have about 2mm there not to mention protruding screws from the center section of the fans, there really isn’t much space for them. Which is why it would be nice if a simple grid were integrated into the rad section.

  • @Equatis
    @Equatis Год назад

    I just did a Dan A4 H2O build with 5800X3D and a 7900XTX. I'm finding that in games like Warzone the cooler can't keep up. Is this because the AIO was cheap ($55) or because it's just too much heat? Or both?

  • @korezako3930
    @korezako3930 2 года назад

    Lian Li needs to make vertical stand for this case. Looks beautiful when side by side with the Meshlicious

    • @TangoOne
      @TangoOne Год назад

      how? either the stand would have to be very tall to clear all the cables from the IO, defeating the purpose, or all the cables from the IO would have to come out the top.

  • @memzel
    @memzel 2 года назад

    5950x + 3080 FE? Would you recommend in this case

  • @Neikon
    @Neikon Год назад

    Hello, do you know if an ASUS 6900XT TUF OC fits in the case? plus a Phanteks Glacier 240?

  • @kmkzEE
    @kmkzEE 2 года назад

    So keen to swap out my NR200 with this!

  • @jhellier
    @jhellier 2 года назад

    Don't like the angular lines of the side IO. I'm looking for something smaller and sleeker than a nr200 (18ltr) but bigger than a4 h20 (11ltr) that can air cool high end cpus with noctua c14s and fit gpu up to 325mm length. Seems like this case doesn't exist yet :(

  • @abdulmotin196
    @abdulmotin196 Месяц назад

    the side panel clips for Dan A4-H2O and NCase M1 are the compatible. I could not find any to buy. Please help.

  • @Deathwing2
    @Deathwing2 2 года назад

    This case in black looks fantastic! I'm looking at my NR200 right now wishing it was as slim as this case 😂

    • @frankhu8692
      @frankhu8692 2 года назад

      I think that nr200 can be air cooled, less pricy, also comes with lower temp and noise overall, plus potential to cool some of the hottest cpu out there, it has more headroom. So I think that it truly depends on if you use your pc just for gaming or you want to use it for stress productivity and future proof

    • @Deathwing2
      @Deathwing2 2 года назад

      @@frankhu8692 Yea I wouldn't change from my NR200 any time soon. I have 7 fans (including the CPU cooler) in my NR200 and it runs so cool & quiet, and there's plenty of room to upgrade. The only downside right now is that it's not much smaller width & depth wise from a mid-tower, just a whole lot shorter. A sandwich layout is pretty appealing from a space-saving perspective, and I like the sharp, clean lines on the DAN H2O

    • @frankhu8692
      @frankhu8692 2 года назад

      @@Deathwing2 yeah its clean, i own original a4, those panels can shred potatos lol, yeah nr200 is big, i want to upgrade from the 7.5 L a4, since ncase m1 is gone, meshlicious and verticale is not my style, and other case like lian li q58 or ghost s1 are too hot for 240 aio steup, pluse the price and availability, i think i am still gonna go with nr200p. I especially like its polished round edges

  • @kurok1tenshi
    @kurok1tenshi 2 года назад

    Always loved the meshllicious and always said that its 2/3 liters too big...here is the answer.

  • @sovac9107
    @sovac9107 2 года назад

    Great video would you say this or the q58 is easier to build with?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      Both are what I’d consider moderate in terms of difficulty. The one thing that makes this a bit more difficult than the Q58 is the tubing run and how that impacts the cable management. In the Q58 things are more forgiving with cable management and tubing orientation, and for a beginner or novice, that can make all the difference.

    • @sovac9107
      @sovac9107 2 года назад

      @@MachinesMore okay thanks also did your phanteks t30s not fit?

  • @veryas1an118
    @veryas1an118 2 года назад

    How do the nvidia 30 series founders coolers fare in this case, is this going to be like the meshlicious with the standoffs again for optimal performance?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      Correct. I’ve tested it already. Stock it’s actually not terrible, but it’s really good with the extended standoffs.

  • @Dogzilla07
    @Dogzilla07 2 года назад

    Air cooling the CPU with Thermalright AXP90-x36 + Noctua/Thermalright 92x25mm fan + Noctua NA-FD1 fan duct would be really interesting. Or even Phanteks T30-120 xD

  • @la009895
    @la009895 2 года назад

    If you had to personally choose between this and the meshlicious, which would you pick?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      A4-H2O, but really because I like the GPU IO to be freely accessible, just a personal preference. The SSUPD is better to look at though.

  • @cory2300
    @cory2300 Год назад

    I think you may have left the little plastic film on the EVGA card on the logo.

  • @TangoOne
    @TangoOne Год назад +1

    I don't know what it is with ITX builds and the desire to always want to go smaller. I started with a NZXT H210 which can hardly be classified as SFF. I now have a Meshilicious which is an outstanding case but I may end up moving to this A4, it seems to be as small as one would practically want to go.

    • @theguy8804
      @theguy8804 Год назад

      In the same boat, Did you ever swap to the A4?

  • @EricMonasevitch
    @EricMonasevitch 2 года назад

    Any chance of mounting additional *thin* fans on bottom for intake?

    • @ReTrOxyHD
      @ReTrOxyHD 2 года назад

      15mm Fans won’t fit. Under the mobo the riser cable and mobo mounting plate is in the way. Under the psu the power cables are in the way. Maybe possible to fit the fan but you won’t gain any airflow. But I didn’t try to fit the fan.

  • @Titor1021
    @Titor1021 2 года назад

    looks like an M1 and Sliger SM580 having a love child

  • @chibilawl
    @chibilawl 2 года назад

    Which would you recommend to someone looking to build an SFF gaming PC, the A4-H2O or the Meshlicious, and why?

    • @sentryion3106
      @sentryion3106 2 года назад

      If you need more cooling on the cpu then meshilicious since it can house a 280mm aio. Otherwise h2o all the way since it’s smaller and most importantly you don’t need to deal with right angle video output card for the gpu

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      The A4-H2O is harder to build, but like Mike mentioned above the right angle display IO is a pain sometimes. Personally I’d recommend the Meshlicious if it’s your first SFF build.

  • @hoppyt3ch
    @hoppyt3ch 2 года назад

    Would love to see a build w an SFX-L PSU

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      It’s tight for sure. In that scenario strapping down the cables would be pretty key.

  • @glutenbob8137
    @glutenbob8137 2 года назад

    How much cooler would the SSUPD run with a 280mm AIO? all other parts being equal?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      About the same. 240 with higher end fans like A12x25 or T30 can outperform most 280 AIOs.

    • @glutenbob8137
      @glutenbob8137 2 года назад

      @@MachinesMore Thanks for the response! If I could ask another question, which case would you recommend between the A4 H20 and Meshliscious? Keeping noise levels low being a priority.

  • @rashie
    @rashie 2 года назад

    👍👍

  • @marchufnagel9068
    @marchufnagel9068 2 года назад

    Wondering if a 12900k/rtx 2080ti FE would be wise or not? Gaming/web surfing.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      Higher res gaming should be fine. It won’t be great for CPU thermals since the rad would be taking in a lot of exhaust, with 2080 Ti you’re probably looking at 75+ while gaming. Web surfing, yeah I don’t think you’ll have an issue there.

  • @RojasTKD7
    @RojasTKD7 2 года назад

    Personally I want cases with 280 AIO support, even if it has to be a little bigger.
    Still this looks like a nice option for a compact yet relatively powerful build.

    • @sboy2739
      @sboy2739 2 года назад

      LIAN LI Q58 is good for you

    • @RojasTKD7
      @RojasTKD7 2 года назад +3

      @@sboy2739 Eh, not into that case.
      I'll stick with the Meshlicious for a 280 AIO or the NR200 for a big air cooler. I have both and really like them.

  • @3rutu5
    @3rutu5 2 года назад +1

    you should test the 5800x with these small cases, i'd be interested in the thermals on that with limited airflow and a lot of blockages

    • @swizzler8053
      @swizzler8053 2 года назад

      I have an 5900X in an NR200P. Temps are great. The 5800X is an little hot head though.

    • @3rutu5
      @3rutu5 2 года назад

      @@swizzler8053 I have the 5800x is the nr200 and it is quite toasty. Just curious what it would.be like in half the size. I was thinking the other day if it would be worth.moving to the 5900x

    • @sentryion3106
      @sentryion3106 2 года назад +1

      @@3rutu5 I mean this is an aio so most of the cpu heat is already getting dispersed outside from the radiator so limited space isn’t really a bad thing. My meshlicious with a 5800x and 240aio was hitting high 70s gamin load and 90 in Cinnabench so I can’t see how it’s much different here

    • @3rutu5
      @3rutu5 2 года назад

      @@sentryion3106 cool, sounds like your experience with the 5800x and mine are the same, except i got the cinebench down by using a negative PBO curve, so it was 79deg under load. The 5900x might be a worthy upgrade for me though if i can get it cheap enough

  • @malafob
    @malafob 2 года назад

    Good Case but I will keep my nr200p.

  • @anggiepratiwi1178
    @anggiepratiwi1178 2 года назад

    can you install it with air cooled build pls

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      Yup, that’s the plan. (despite the name 😎)

  • @Eraz
    @Eraz 2 года назад

    Awesome case, but I m convinced this will be almost impossible to find it IN STOCK,... so what's the point .. But thanks for the review.. that has nothing to do with the supply !

  • @faiflowright01
    @faiflowright01 2 года назад

    Is it possible to have 2x 120mm rads instead of a 240mm one?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      For a hybrid card? Probably not. If the rad length is 150mm, 2X physically won’t fit, not to mention the tubing exit option is pretty much limited to one end. You might consider air cooled CPU in that scenario.

    • @faiflowright01
      @faiflowright01 2 года назад

      @@MachinesMore Thanks for the info! Yeah, I was wondering if the tubing exit is only one sided.

  • @jameskocks4734
    @jameskocks4734 2 года назад

    will this be a limited run product?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      Don’t think so, although like everything involving overseas logistics nowadays, if you want it you’re going to want to pre-order since inventory is likely to come in batches.

  • @lilith1504
    @lilith1504 2 года назад +1

    Shit. I planned end game exactly the day you released this video. Whyyyyyyy!??

  • @ToxicGamer86454
    @ToxicGamer86454 Год назад

    I tried a cooler master aio and it was trash. I ended up using an Asus aio. Much better mounting hardware if you’re using AMD. Highly recommend them.

  • @coolmemesbudd
    @coolmemesbudd 2 года назад

    Custom loop capable?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      Pump choice is going to be the crux here. Combo cpu pump block is going too tall so going res-less or a very strategic combo of gpu block and flat pump res may be the way to go.

  • @grckvn
    @grckvn 2 года назад

    What is the name of the case on the left at 1:43?

  • @user-qn1zj5bs5p
    @user-qn1zj5bs5p 2 года назад

    this case is indeed better than Q58 , at least it has normal side panel instead those weird half glass half vented

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      Yeah, the half and half was kind of pointless.

  • @swizzler8053
    @swizzler8053 2 года назад

    NR200P all day everyday. Keep up the great work bro and stay safe.

  • @UnknownUser-fg3fs
    @UnknownUser-fg3fs 2 года назад

    Size vs ssupd Mesh?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад

      Smaller in pretty much every dimension.

  • @des22059
    @des22059 8 месяцев назад

    In reality it's actually 12~ish liters. Lian Li doesn't include feet and sticking out parts on their website

  • @AM93000
    @AM93000 2 года назад

    NO WHITE?????

  • @RandomHandGum
    @RandomHandGum 2 года назад

    Smooth edged prototype looked so much better... sad😭

  • @user-gq5qi7kb4o
    @user-gq5qi7kb4o 2 года назад

    why these case just don't optimise a bit more space for a 3.5inch HDD.......M2 SSD is not expensive now but if you want a 8TB or bigger storage...HDD is still the better choice....

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore 2 года назад +1

      If you need that much storage with an HDD AND you want an SFF case my suggestion would be the NR200. Builds featuring 3.5” drives just aren’t that commonplace nowadays.

    • @user-gq5qi7kb4o
      @user-gq5qi7kb4o 2 года назад

      haha indeed im using NR200P right now after watched your very early detailed videos about NR200P~~~

  • @owlmostdead9492
    @owlmostdead9492 2 года назад

    God I hate these flat cables, actual cancer for cable management within mini ITX cases.

    • @JTCPingas
      @JTCPingas 2 года назад

      I think the braided cables that come with the Corsair SF platinum PSUs are fantastic.