Can Labour and the Lib Dems work together to fix social care? | Election 2024 | New Statesman

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  • @denniswinters3096
    @denniswinters3096 3 месяца назад +45

    I'd like to see the Lib Dems become the official opposition. The Tories are redundant.

    • @davidrathbone5581
      @davidrathbone5581 3 месяца назад +4

      Drag the Overton window *all* the way back left

    • @chrissaltmarsh6777
      @chrissaltmarsh6777 3 месяца назад

      The Tories are currently poisonous. As are the latest Farage mob.
      Lib-Dem OK, but a sensible rightish group would be good for political structure. Perhaps that will grow, although I wouldn't vote for such anyway.

  • @GamerX13X
    @GamerX13X 3 месяца назад +11

    Labor politician: we all gotta work together on this issue that is a major public concern.
    Conservative politician: Aha! See, we told you they would raise taxes.
    This is why they're getting smacked

  • @rafd3593
    @rafd3593 3 месяца назад +3

    This is another reason for supporting Labour and/or the LibDems.

  • @GaryV-p3h
    @GaryV-p3h 3 месяца назад +10

    Please, please, please do let's have all or at keadt most of the parties working together in the vest interests of the country instead of them working against each other in their own interests as we've had for far too up until now. Then we will be able to see which parties really do put the nations interests first. The first step towards PR, please.

  • @VinceLammas
    @VinceLammas 3 месяца назад +7

    There probably is a good case to rebalance council tax formulas as well as finding a better solution for business rates. The reform of NHS and Social Care should be addressed on a cross-party basis and we need to understand that fixing the problems will take a decade.

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 3 месяца назад +4

      Business rates really seem to be a major factor killing retail. We're still taxing shops as if high-streets are paved with gold. Whilst Amazon operates out of cheap industrial units and offshore offices.

  • @kazimmoosaimam6233
    @kazimmoosaimam6233 3 месяца назад +1

    Yes whilst Labour party and Liberal Democrats party should always AND they will always work together all in together provided they will always help everyone and especially always all poor people and always give them home, jobs and more.
    And always remember very well alot and will always never trust bloody conservatives Tories at all

  • @arthur1670
    @arthur1670 3 месяца назад +3

    It’s got to get fully funded integrated into nhs

  • @KernowFishy
    @KernowFishy 3 месяца назад +1

    The Tories have you (the press) obsessing about tax cutting , but how the hell will we stop the collapse of public services if we follow their shambles of an approach ?

  • @kazimmoosaimam6233
    @kazimmoosaimam6233 3 месяца назад +1

    And also make rehab to always work very well alot on all humans beings treatment

  • @kazimmoosaimam6233
    @kazimmoosaimam6233 3 месяца назад +1

    And always bring all prices down and whilst always to agree to always remember very well alot always never increased prices to go very high at all especially for poor people who really can't afford that at all also for their shopping as well and same always in all over around the world

  • @MrTzimisces
    @MrTzimisces 3 месяца назад +2

    So a continuation of the privatised model that extracts everything for corporate profits and shareholder payments? Great. Can't wait 🙄

  • @michaelritson1678
    @michaelritson1678 3 месяца назад +1

    Labour and Lib Dens have worked together before and it was an absolute disaster.

    • @KernowFishy
      @KernowFishy 3 месяца назад +1

      Tories working alone has been multiple disasters wrapped up into an omni cluster ****

  • @vincentablett2055
    @vincentablett2055 3 месяца назад +3

    Awesome content! But What’s happened to Freddie? Missing him in the videos

    • @jsbarretto
      @jsbarretto 3 месяца назад +6

      Been called up for national service by Sunak

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 3 месяца назад +3

      He’s got his final GCSE exams today! Wish him luck 🤞

  • @catherinemartin6258
    @catherinemartin6258 3 месяца назад +2

    Yes they could 👍🏻

  • @kazimmoosaimam6233
    @kazimmoosaimam6233 3 месяца назад +1

    And drugs should always be destroyed and banned forever Inshallah

  • @erongi233
    @erongi233 3 месяца назад +2

    The benefits are cheaper wages and a cheap alternative compared with investment in automation .The same people whoadvocate diversity advocate globalisation. The economic benefits go to profits and the social cost goes to everyone else

  • @dereks1264
    @dereks1264 3 месяца назад

    On the subject of threats against those in public life, I would remind everybody that two days ago was the eighth anniversary of the murder of Jo Cox.

  • @soton5teve
    @soton5teve 3 месяца назад

    Decriminalisation Regulation, and Legalisation of Cannabis and Shrooms. Boosting the economy by Billions ✅ & save Billions more in healthcare ✅ plus taking it out of hands of criminals, and stopping people being needlessly criminalised

  • @wellofcrooks
    @wellofcrooks 3 месяца назад +1

    You had me til you said not to milkshake Farage, going out the door for him should be like an episode of Get Your Own Back

  • @kazimmoosaimam6233
    @kazimmoosaimam6233 3 месяца назад +1

    And also I don't really care at all for the people addicted wants drugs or not.
    But whilst always they should never never have it at all.
    And drugs can harm people and the drugs will kill people.
    And also that is why I really say always help people and always give them very good medication as well and always give them very good treatment as well so that they will always always live very well and always have a very good life as well Inshallah.
    And the same always all over around the world as well
    And always keep NHS in all everything forever Inshallah

  • @mrsulzer66
    @mrsulzer66 3 месяца назад

    Not without raising taxes, which probably most of society would be willing to pay for. No amount of waffle and aspirations of growth will cut it

  • @fathobbit6160
    @fathobbit6160 3 месяца назад

    The current plans for a cap on care costs at £80,000, introduced by Johnson and kicked into the long grass by the Conservatives, is due to come into force in October 2025. Labour may decide to stick with this framework.

  • @PeppermintPatties
    @PeppermintPatties 3 месяца назад

    Social care needs to stop being a tax on disability.
    There are 14+million disabled people in the UK.
    Not all of us that rely on it are old.
    Then, labour should deal with WHY there are 14 million disabled people.

  • @davidr1424
    @davidr1424 3 месяца назад

    Why are we not seeing more of Yvette Cooper?

  • @stevenwilliamson6236
    @stevenwilliamson6236 3 месяца назад +1

    Theresa hostile environment May?

  • @g.p616
    @g.p616 3 месяца назад

    New Statesmen already making excuses for the Labour government’s performance !😂😂😂

  • @kazimmoosaimam6233
    @kazimmoosaimam6233 3 месяца назад +1

    Inshallah

  • @GoSilvio
    @GoSilvio 3 месяца назад +1

    I've watched lots of videos on the LibDems and still have no idea what they stand for???

    • @kazamshah4543
      @kazamshah4543 3 месяца назад

      Basically, the Tories and Labour rolled into one. And probably the most pointless party in UK politics. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @grahamepigney8565
    @grahamepigney8565 3 месяца назад

    Plenty of great topics addressed by the New Statesman, a paucity of presenters and experts, with the notable exception of Andrew Marr.

  • @cammrose
    @cammrose 3 месяца назад +2

    Seems disingenuous to talk about how abuse of MPs and candidates is unacceptable without mentioning Diane Abbott or Apsana Begum

  • @circleseven5115
    @circleseven5115 3 месяца назад +1

    Finally! Someone else notices that Rachel Reeves sounds like Mummy Rabbit (also Nanny Plum from Ben and Holly, voiced by the same actress). Once you notice you can’t unhear it!

  • @_Stroda
    @_Stroda 3 месяца назад

    I'm only a few minutes in, so perhaps this will come up later, but something that generally seems to be omitted from discussions around heath/social care is age. (seems not)
    The recipients of care are generally older. The people paying for it are younger.
    We have had nearly 15 years of policies that have hurt younger generations whilst protecting, or benefiting, older generations.
    If the approach to improving health and social care is simply going to be higher taxes, the most obvious rises are, again, going to hit younger, working people, and the end result will be that older, often retired, people benefit.
    Say that heath and social care do improve for a time, will those paying for the improvements be guaranteed to receive the same care when they're old?
    I earn just under the higher rate threshold. I'll most likely be above it by the end of the year. My effective tax rate, given that I pay the 'graduate tax' (because, in order to get into my profession I, absurdly, had to go to get a degree) will be significantly higher than most older people experienced at my age, or ever. I've just about saved enough that, without moving too far away, I may be able to buy a 2 bedroom flat by the end of the year. That will cost me something like £240k. The mortgage will, again, be beyond what most older people experienced.
    So, despite earning above average, just to get a mortgage on a small flat (rather than paying off the mortgage of... An older person, who benefited from previous policies - a theme may be emerging), 50/50 that I'll even have a garden, I'm not going to be left with a whole lot of disposable income. And a lot of the hints seem to be that even more of what I earn may be taken to support, by and large, older people.
    And I should also be saving significantly more than I'm able to for my retirement because, despite all the lovely triple lock talk, the odds of people my age retiring at a reasonable age and receiving anything meaningful from the state are... What exactly? Probably not too great.
    A very cursory glance on Indeed shows that a similar role to mine in the US could see me earning something like $100-120k. This coming with health insurance. And I'd be taxed less.
    A lot of fuss is made about millionaires and billionaires running away from London (despite it being a fairly unique city that offers so much more than near enough anywhere else on the planet) if taxes are raised upon them. But what real difference does a slightly higher tax burden make to these people? How many will really ditch what a city like London offers just to retain a little bit more of their wealth?
    Whereas people like myself, younger professionals earning decent but not particularly impressive money - what difference would an increased tax burden make? Well, it could mean that someone is no longer able to afford their mortgage or rent. Meaning they have to downsize from what is often already quite 'downsized' accommodation. Or that they have to move further away from work, spending more time and money commuting.
    And yet these people, like myself, often without children, are in many cases quite able to move away. It's already clearly an issue with doctors. I know it's not fashionable, either among those to the left or the right, to care about the 'plight' of professionals in the UK, but what impact would driving them from the country have?

    • @terrypankhurst7601
      @terrypankhurst7601 3 месяца назад

      You do realise that one day you will be old?

    • @_Stroda
      @_Stroda 3 месяца назад

      @@terrypankhurst7601 Clearly you didn't read what I wrote, as I specifically referenced this.
      I.e. will the same public health care be available when those of us who will pay for the improvements reach old age?
      Will there be a meaningful state pension? What age will younger people have to work to before they can access it?
      It's far from certain that younger, working people, who will ultimately pay for any improvements largely focused upon the current older generations, will receive the same benefits as they age.
      And by paying more, they're put in a position where they're unable to make meaningful savings to protect against this.
      To what extent is it fair, or in the long term interests of the country, for the young to pay for the shortsightedness of generations of which the majority voted in such a way as to create the current mess?

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 3 месяца назад

      @@_StrodaIn fairness to Terry, no one’s gonna read your massive post.

    • @_Stroda
      @_Stroda 3 месяца назад

      @@methanedirigible 30 seconds of reading is pretty hard, isn't it? Just like forming coherent, informed views on things.
      Perhaps we should acknowledge this and radically overhaul our electoral system so that only those with superhuman powers of attention get to vote?

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 3 месяца назад

      @@_Stroda I probably agree with most of your opinions. But come one - you think Reform voters are gonna read blocks of text? These people can barely read the tripe printed in The Sun below pictures of topless women and footballers.

  • @SamUploads420
    @SamUploads420 3 месяца назад +3

    Do trans people feel safe?

    • @TW-dj5zq
      @TW-dj5zq 3 месяца назад

      As we all know, a man identifying as a woman is more important and deserves more safety than women or girls. The way Rosie has been treated by the Labour Party is deeply shameful.

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 3 месяца назад +2

      Laws may reasonably be used to keep people safe. But whether people _feel_ safe is a personal issue not within the remit of legislation.

  • @kevoreilly6557
    @kevoreilly6557 3 месяца назад

    Not ruling something out means they’ll do it, but he did rule it out, just not explicitly …. What drivel

  • @mentality-monster
    @mentality-monster 3 месяца назад

    Not sure Labour has any intention of fixing anything. Their strategy seems to be telling anyone more than one degree anyone left of centre that they're not interested in their vote, some supply side economics nonsense and saying "we're not the tories" or "Liz Truss" repeatedly.

  • @robertbones326
    @robertbones326 3 месяца назад

    Second

    • @GaryV-p3h
      @GaryV-p3h 3 месяца назад +2

      Do your parents know you're playing on the computer again.

  • @frankbrennan1619
    @frankbrennan1619 3 месяца назад

    No.

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 3 месяца назад

      Cheers Frankie boy - useful contributions as usual. 👍

  • @wongxihan5806
    @wongxihan5806 3 месяца назад

    First

    • @GaryV-p3h
      @GaryV-p3h 3 месяца назад +1

      Do your parents know you're playing on the computer again.

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 3 месяца назад

      @@GaryV-p3h Do _your_ parents know you’re copying and pasting again?

    • @GaryV-p3h
      @GaryV-p3h 3 месяца назад

      @@methanedirigible Not unless they've found a way to reverse the cremation process

  • @davidfenton4387
    @davidfenton4387 3 месяца назад

    In a word....NO. Davey and Labour, pure comedy gold.

  • @patrickobrien5066
    @patrickobrien5066 3 месяца назад

    This would be the biggest nightmare that would happen to our country. Vote Reform let’s get this country changed once and for all. We can not continue down this same road or we are finished as a country on the world stage we will be fu.k.d

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah lets have a fascist country

    • @pipoo1
      @pipoo1 3 месяца назад

      The only party that depose the Tories into third place are the Lib Dems they did that in May they won more councillors and councils than the Tories, the Lib Dem’s won 520 more councillors than Reform, who won 2.

    • @patrickobrien5066
      @patrickobrien5066 3 месяца назад

      @@pipoo1 wow then we would be well and truly fu.k.d

    • @kevoreilly6557
      @kevoreilly6557 3 месяца назад

      Vote Reform, because Brexit only go us to our knees.

  • @I_Was_Chrispy_Kreme
    @I_Was_Chrispy_Kreme 3 месяца назад

    I am with Reform here. People should pay for their own care. Can’t afford it? sell your house. Introduce insurance now for those under 50 for example

    • @_Stroda
      @_Stroda 3 месяца назад

      I wouldn't trust them to implement anything remotely sensible but the sole redeeming feature of Reform is, I think, that they're raising this issue.

    • @bliss9654
      @bliss9654 3 месяца назад

      @@_Stroda i wouldn't trust anything the liblabcon offered, I haven't voted for any party in 30 yrs, I'm ex labour and I'm voting reform.

    • @daviddunmore8415
      @daviddunmore8415 3 месяца назад +3

      Until you have to sell your house and even that won't cover the cos of your treatment. Try paying for Cancer treatment in the USA, the 'Insurer' providing your 'cover' will do everything they can to not pay out.

    • @GaryV-p3h
      @GaryV-p3h 3 месяца назад

      The only reason Farage wants an private insurance system is because he intends to use money he's earned from Reform UK Ltd to buy up shares in the insurance companies & private hospitals.

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 3 месяца назад +2

      What if you don’t have a house to sell?