Trent deserves all backlash he's getting at moment, I think Slot didn't have any options to replace Trent early in that game because Bradley was only back from injury and Gomez is out injured, but Trent lack of effort is shocking especially when he's meant to be our vice captain.
I hope that's correct because leaving the ground an awful lot of people couldn't understand why Slot waited so long replacing him with Bradley & more than one person wondered did Arne bottle it, not wanting to risk upsetting Trent because of the contract nonsense. Konate started the game & he's coming back from injury. Honestly that's the first time I've heard fan's really question Slot's on field decision making process & it's all because of the f'king FSG mess with these contracts. If Madrid offer £20 million for Trent & want him now maybe Liverpool should just take it because Trent isn't doing his job & we're on the verge of derailing the season. Bradley should've come on at the latest after Salah's penalty, all through the game it was obvious Amorim had targeted our right & why Arne didn't fix it was mystifying. Unfortunately the fact is that Trent has lost the plot & throughout the game he was a liability.
@@daibonehead I'm sorry but it's Man Utd & he's a Scouser it's personal. Normal rules don't apply Trent has to know this. If he wants to leave go tell the club, if his head isn't right go tell Arne but for God's sake you don't put the shirt on if you're even slightly checked out mentally when playing Utd.
@@gavinstrelitz1558 I am 100% against agreeing to put that in contract. The manner of choosing the captain should be up to the manager, not staff negotiating the paperwork.
Well I bleedin' hope the squad doesn't share your pessimism Steve. If I were in their position I'd be thinking that team showed us up last time out and whether we had a bad game or not, they did us. I'd be going out there with a point to prove and show the rest of the league who we are. Trent or Bradders at RB we win that game lad. It'll be a battle but we'll win.
@ Slot should play TAA against Acc and Spurs. Bradley must play against Forest. On Sunday’s performance, TAA is not worth the 78m deal allegedly on offer. His body language indicates he doesn’t want to be at Liverpool.
Conor Bradley was playing vs forest the last time and got skit alive by Hudson odoi, in fact it was his fault we lost that game. It's a conundrum who to play??? If Gomez was fit I would play him.
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A player can have one bad game. Stick him in against Spurs straight away, if he doesn't perform, he doesn't want to be here and then it's a no brainer, he has to go asap.
Did you not listen to what bro said?…it’s not the fact that Trent had a bad game, it’s the reason why he had a bad game which was a lack of effort, he played like he didn’t wanna be in a Liverpool kit, that’s why he should not be starting in the the coming game until he’s head is back in Liverpool
@@jaredblue8823 Well I was under the assumption everybody and their cat knew the current circus around Trent and I don't agree taking him out of the team until he gets his head back in Liverpool would be wise for either player or Club. If he wants to go let him go bro, it'll be okay we'll move on. I would play him next game to see if he can be the player we need to finish the season off strong. The position we're in right now we can't afford to be carrying anyone. Jared, if your bird wanted to leave you, would you lock her in bedroom until she changed her mind?
I've no problem if he starts against Forest but I really do hope if he ends up being lazy like he was against United that Slot will hook him early. Its probably my only criticism of Slot all season not to take him off earlier but I guess the reason he didn't was due to Bradley coming back from injury and maybe he wasnt as ready as Konate was.
Nah start bradley.. we can't have passengers and bradley is more than good enough. If not better. The only reason trebt will start for me now is because bradley fitness issues . But its a new age now I can't deal with this rb who can't even defend no more .
100% agree with your comments but as Slot pointed out in his post match comments was the Utd. followed what Forest did against us earlier in the season ( low block - long ball out to the frontmen) and a half-arsed Trent is going to do the same again ... No question... Bradley should be in now as much as possible until Trent clarifies his future... then at least we will all know the score with him.
We need to play the kids and start the squad members like chiesa ,endo, quansah, MC connell, nyoni, Nunez, Jota in games in league cup and FA cup. Maybe Dom needs a game too. More important we need to keep everyone fit n fresh for forest away they are flying
Watching Forest last night with lightening counter attacks on their left wing sent a shudder down me. If Trent plays that game with the same level of effort as United we’re in trouble
Connor Bradley has more heart in the game then Trent. Like I said Trent is another Rahim Sterling. Against Nottingham Forest is a must win game who won against Wolves. It's the numbers game now. Nothing but a win. 🤔🤔
The mad thing is, Trent could have walked out and sat down for 80mins and United don't score the Martinez goal!! It's that simple!! it's one thing losing possesion from a bad pass but to let Martinez walk past you and then let him have all the time in the world to pick the ball up and shoot is shocking!! If i were into my conspiracy theories, if Trent wanted to distance himself from the fans to get a move to madrid this Jan that is the game to do it in!! But all said and done Slot has to carry the can a bit here too, he saw what we saw and he let it go on for way too long!! it got to the point VVD was so angry i think it was effecting his game too.
We think his head has been turned, you know why? He hasn't said anything on if he wants to leave or not... If he is playing then we deserve his 100% effort, nothing less. If he wants Madrid, that's fine, you can go. If you want to stay and win another PL then we need to see massive change in his defensive ability.
I think doing this against Utd is the worst part. Biggest rival for the club, very important game after Arsenal and Chelsea dropped points and he is jogging around the field… how would you explain it to someone?
After the United performance I never want to see him as our club captain. That mind sound reactionary but 38 years of being a red I've never seen a scouser play United and put in that little effort. It's unforgivable to me that - no ones bigger than the club. I'd take the £20m off Madrid now and get rid. Sick to death of the effort levels he puts in. Not a patch on Carra and Gerrard.
I have been defending him, again and again. At least in the past, when he got completely smoked by a LW once or thrice in the same game, I could point out the good things in his game and how he really was putting in a lot of effort. Against United, Trent's game simply felt off from the whistle, playing like I have never seen him. Is the lad injured? What is going on? Trent has always had a certain "relaxed" poise that does have to do with conserving energy. And, yes, I know sometimes "relaxed" becomes a bit too much like "sloppy". This match, Trent did not look "relaxed" or even merely "sometimes sloppy", but "lazy" was the word that came to mind. I absolutely will forgive mistakes, but I have trouble forgiving lack of effort. Apparently I am not the only one who thought: "You want to be captain? I will take the 20 mill, thank you." As I said, I have been one to defend Trent, over and over. But I did not like what I was seeing. This did not feel like merely a poor game.
Its all about graft though ist it , he doesnt , been going on for few seasons , imho hes been getting away with because hes a local lad and to me he must graft more !
If Trent wins a trophy with Liverpool this season & leaves, it was never about legacy. With that being said, I try to ignore these muppets when they speculate. They remind me of lunatics like Alex Jones & Russell Brand. “Well, prove to me that lizard people do NOT exist!” Melts.
Spot on.... Arrogant and lazy. He clearly thought we would pump the manks on Sunday as the only effort I saw was him going into their half way too many times. Bradley should start the league Cup, sit out the fa cup and then back for Forest. Forest rely heavily on their wingers so we need a proper defender in against them.
Trent will be ripped to pieces by Hudson-Odoi who has unreal pace and needs to be tackled early and often - I would go with Bradley to start that game if fully fit.
David, I believe he knows he put in an awful performance/effort and I would like to believe that a Liverpool fan, from Liverpool will be ashamed of himself and I think he will come back hard. I can be cynical and overly critical of him and towards him, but we need the lad playing for his boyhood club. I remember reading Robbie fowler's biography when it came out. When Robbie broke into the team many years ago and he came in from training at Melwood with dirty boots and a dirty kit to find Graeme Souness and Mr Robinson sat down with a contract for this 17-year-old kid. He did not even read it. He signed and went to change. The back of the Mirror the next day had the headline that read something like "England's first millionaire teenager!!". I can't remember the headline. All this lad cared about was that he was playing footie and playing for his team, end of story. There's a cynical message in there somewhere for modern players if they cared to decypher it...... Good channel lad.
I hope Trent signs his new contract. I’m a huge fan of his. A bad game doesn’t make a bad player. It’s just the lack of effort in some situations against Man Utd was worrying
In front of a global audience, you decide to show a lack of desire.... Socks down to the ankles and strolls about like it's the last of the summer wine. You showed you're more spanish because we didn't see a Scouser.
Both Robertson and trent need to move on. Bradley is ready to step in for trent and costas is adequate for now but we are looking at left back options. Unfortunately trent is causing problems within the dressing room from all accounts and that cant be allowed.
The Trent story might end up looking like Mesut Ozil at Arsenal... rewarding laziness with a huge contract will backfire.... If he wants Madrid let the lad go!
TAA has not been right since he moaned at Slot for being subbed. Now his head is turned it puts out bid for the Premier League and the European Cup into doubt. If he wants to continue sulking then he must leave. He will drag the whole squad down with him.
It's hillarious to me that Real Madrid want that clown. I suppose he'll be great for them since they only have a handful of tough games each season. He'll be great against the likes of Betis, Valladolid, etc. But against decent teams, he's a liability.
Maybe this was Trent´s way of stating he wants to go to irr-eal mad-rid... I know these dictator Franco´s darlings aren´t in a good place, but current Trent isn´t nowhere near good enough for even them. I can accept almost anything from my club´s player, AS LONG AS THEY GIVE EVERYTHING! I hope Bradley is fully fit.
Trent is ridiculously overrated always has been. The lad can pass that's it, that is literally his only attribute. Take the money an get his gone this month, his heads already in Madrid an we've got a better RB in Conor Bradley already
Every player has bad games but it felt like Trent was not even putting an effort to do well defensively . I mean jogging back when Man U are attacking with full force ?? When Napoli thrashed us it felt like we weren’t good enough and I can accept that somewhat but not for a second did it feel like any one of our players didn’t want it enough . Everyone was playing bad but at least they were trying ……this on the other hand . Also if we aren’t going to sign a lb in this transfer window then I really do hope we recall Owen beck . Trent’s disasterclass was a one off thing but robbo has been poor all season (didn’t play nearly as bad as Trent but was nowhere near good enough )
I think Robinson has been more error prone that Trent this season. If Trent stays, he can work on some defensive things (no question) as he approaches the peak of his career. Robbo's race is nearly run. So if, as a fanbase if we want to be a be smart about this, get behind Trent and lift him up if he is having a bad game. Long term we will have glory days ahead and it ill be don to TAA's unique skill. A big contributing factor behind TAA bad performance, yesterday, I think, is that Szobo as out of the team, and we had very little energy on Trent's side of midfield(curtis seemed tired or was ??).... If Slot made a mistake on the subs, I don't know, I still think this is a point gained and a great wake-up call. Being an armchair quarterback is not really my thing, but TAA created the penalty opportunity. So once we went 2-1 up If Conor, Harvey and Endo came on, we probably would have more legs and won the match. That said, I don't think it's time for Slot out chants :-) It's a draw..... I hope we learn from this, and pick up the points in Nottingham.... YNWA
To be totally honest Trent had a really bad day and i know he’s had some bad days in the past but this looked like he doesn’t want to be here anymore? I mean he just didn’t want to try it was like Torres, out of the three i think he wants to go and if i was Slot i would bench him and give Bradly the opportunity because i think Bradly is a better defender than Trent but not for the passing, let him go
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Trent deserves all backlash he's getting at moment, I think Slot didn't have any options to replace Trent early in that game because Bradley was only back from injury and Gomez is out injured, but Trent lack of effort is shocking especially when he's meant to be our vice captain.
It’s the lack of effort that was shocking
@@DavidCondronLFC Totally David, his misplaced passes was horrendous and hands on hips clearly show me his head somewhere else than pitch.
I hope that's correct because leaving the ground an awful lot of people couldn't understand why Slot waited so long replacing him with Bradley & more than one person wondered did Arne bottle it, not wanting to risk upsetting Trent because of the contract nonsense. Konate started the game & he's coming back from injury. Honestly that's the first time I've heard fan's really question Slot's on field decision making process & it's all because of the f'king FSG mess with these contracts. If Madrid offer £20 million for Trent & want him now maybe Liverpool should just take it because Trent isn't doing his job & we're on the verge of derailing the season. Bradley should've come on at the latest after Salah's penalty, all through the game it was obvious Amorim had targeted our right & why Arne didn't fix it was mystifying. Unfortunately the fact is that Trent has lost the plot & throughout the game he was a liability.
All the backlash? It’s getting personal, far beyond criticism for formal performances.
@@daibonehead I'm sorry but it's Man Utd & he's a Scouser it's personal. Normal rules don't apply Trent has to know this. If he wants to leave go tell the club, if his head isn't right go tell Arne but for God's sake you don't put the shirt on if you're even slightly checked out mentally when playing Utd.
If Trent wants to be a future captain then act like it and put in high effort performances
no chance he is going to be captain.
@ apparently it was one of his contract demands. I completely agree with you by the way
@@gavinstrelitz1558 I am 100% against agreeing to put that in contract. The manner of choosing the captain should be up to the manager, not staff negotiating the paperwork.
Hes not captain material for me. I was thinking hes our next gerrard but i was wrong.
If he plays against Forest, given Forest’s performance tonight, and Hudson-Odoi’s pace Liverpool will lose.
Well I bleedin' hope the squad doesn't share your pessimism Steve. If I were in their position I'd be thinking that team showed us up last time out and whether we had a bad game or not, they did us. I'd be going out there with a point to prove and show the rest of the league who we are. Trent or Bradders at RB we win that game lad. It'll be a battle but we'll win.
@ Slot should play TAA against Acc and Spurs. Bradley must play against Forest. On Sunday’s performance, TAA is not worth the 78m deal allegedly on offer. His body language indicates he doesn’t want to be at Liverpool.
Conor Bradley was playing vs forest the last time and got skit alive by Hudson odoi, in fact it was his fault we lost that game. It's a conundrum who to play??? If Gomez was fit I would play him.
Fingers crossed mate COYR
He shouldn't be even Play for us again until he makes clear about his future
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A player can have one bad game. Stick him in against Spurs straight away, if he doesn't perform, he doesn't want to be here and then it's a no brainer, he has to go asap.
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Did you not listen to what bro said?…it’s not the fact that Trent had a bad game, it’s the reason why he had a bad game which was a lack of effort, he played like he didn’t wanna be in a Liverpool kit, that’s why he should not be starting in the the coming game until he’s head is back in Liverpool
@@jaredblue8823 Well I was under the assumption everybody and their cat knew the current circus around Trent and I don't agree taking him out of the team until he gets his head back in Liverpool would be wise for either player or Club. If he wants to go let him go bro, it'll be okay we'll move on. I would play him next game to see if he can be the player we need to finish the season off strong. The position we're in right now we can't afford to be carrying anyone.
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I've no problem if he starts against Forest but I really do hope if he ends up being lazy like he was against United that Slot will hook him early. Its probably my only criticism of Slot all season not to take him off earlier but I guess the reason he didn't was due to Bradley coming back from injury and maybe he wasnt as ready as Konate was.
Nah start bradley.. we can't have passengers and bradley is more than good enough. If not better. The only reason trebt will start for me now is because bradley fitness issues . But its a new age now I can't deal with this rb who can't even defend no more .
100% agree with your comments but as Slot pointed out in his post match comments was the Utd. followed what Forest did against us earlier in the season ( low block - long ball out to the frontmen) and a half-arsed Trent is going to do the same again ... No question... Bradley should be in now as much as possible until Trent clarifies his future... then at least we will all know the score with him.
I agree with your take 100%
We need to play the kids and start the squad members like chiesa ,endo, quansah, MC connell, nyoni, Nunez, Jota in games in league cup and FA cup. Maybe Dom needs a game too. More important we need to keep everyone fit n fresh for forest away they are flying
Yeah, they’re gonna cause us a lot of problems 🤦♂️
Watching Forest last night with lightening counter attacks on their left wing sent a shudder down me. If Trent plays that game with the same level of effort as United we’re in trouble
Connor Bradley has more heart in the game then Trent. Like I said Trent is another Rahim Sterling. Against Nottingham Forest is a must win game who won against Wolves. It's the numbers game now. Nothing but a win. 🤔🤔
Agreed.
We need to know to what happeneing so we can move on and get on with football win this league
The mad thing is, Trent could have walked out and sat down for 80mins and United don't score the Martinez goal!! It's that simple!! it's one thing losing possesion from a bad pass but to let Martinez walk past you and then let him have all the time in the world to pick the ball up and shoot is shocking!! If i were into my conspiracy theories, if Trent wanted to distance himself from the fans to get a move to madrid this Jan that is the game to do it in!! But all said and done Slot has to carry the can a bit here too, he saw what we saw and he let it go on for way too long!! it got to the point VVD was so angry i think it was effecting his game too.
But Trent isn't a right back. Never was, never will be.
We think his head has been turned, you know why? He hasn't said anything on if he wants to leave or not... If he is playing then we deserve his 100% effort, nothing less.
If he wants Madrid, that's fine, you can go. If you want to stay and win another PL then we need to see massive change in his defensive ability.
Trent thinking of madrid and jude
Im not suprised if him and jude are a couple
Nice one lad
Thanks 👍 everything that was said was spot on 👍👍 YNWA
Good analysis IMO.
I think doing this against Utd is the worst part. Biggest rival for the club, very important game after Arsenal and Chelsea dropped points and he is jogging around the field… how would you explain it to someone?
After the United performance I never want to see him as our club captain. That mind sound reactionary but 38 years of being a red I've never seen a scouser play United and put in that little effort. It's unforgivable to me that - no ones bigger than the club. I'd take the £20m off Madrid now and get rid. Sick to death of the effort levels he puts in. Not a patch on Carra and Gerrard.
I have been defending him, again and again. At least in the past, when he got completely smoked by a LW once or thrice in the same game, I could point out the good things in his game and how he really was putting in a lot of effort.
Against United, Trent's game simply felt off from the whistle, playing like I have never seen him. Is the lad injured? What is going on? Trent has always had a certain "relaxed" poise that does have to do with conserving energy. And, yes, I know sometimes "relaxed" becomes a bit too much like "sloppy". This match, Trent did not look "relaxed" or even merely "sometimes sloppy", but "lazy" was the word that came to mind. I absolutely will forgive mistakes, but I have trouble forgiving lack of effort.
Apparently I am not the only one who thought: "You want to be captain? I will take the 20 mill, thank you."
As I said, I have been one to defend Trent, over and over. But I did not like what I was seeing. This did not feel like merely a poor game.
Play trent and bradley a half each in the cup games and see where they are in terms of fitness, with connor, for the forest game and call it on merit.
Quite simply we will be a better defensive unit with Connor in the team especially against Forests two wingers
Ffs hes not on a £100 a week !
Its all about graft though ist it , he doesnt , been going on for few seasons , imho hes been getting away with because hes a local lad and to me he must graft more !
If Trent wins a trophy with Liverpool this season & leaves, it was never about legacy.
With that being said, I try to ignore these muppets when they speculate. They remind me of lunatics like Alex Jones & Russell Brand.
“Well, prove to me that lizard people do NOT exist!”
Melts.
Spot on.... Arrogant and lazy. He clearly thought we would pump the manks on Sunday as the only effort I saw was him going into their half way too many times. Bradley should start the league Cup, sit out the fa cup and then back for Forest. Forest rely heavily on their wingers so we need a proper defender in against them.
Trent trying to justify leaving maybe?...its like me quitting smoking then looking for a reason to get angry to justify having a smoke
Players have bad games every now and then there’s no need to turn on him now
Trent will be ripped to pieces by Hudson-Odoi who has unreal pace and needs to be tackled early and often - I would go with Bradley to start that game if fully fit.
He can go Liverpool football club will always be bigger
David, I believe he knows he put in an awful performance/effort and I would like to believe that a Liverpool fan, from Liverpool will be ashamed of himself and I think he will come back hard.
I can be cynical and overly critical of him and towards him, but we need the lad playing for his boyhood club.
I remember reading Robbie fowler's biography when it came out. When Robbie broke into the team many years ago and he came in from training at Melwood with dirty boots and a dirty kit to find Graeme Souness and Mr Robinson sat down with a contract for this 17-year-old kid. He did not even read it. He signed and went to change.
The back of the Mirror the next day had the headline that read something like "England's first millionaire teenager!!". I can't remember the headline. All this lad cared about was that he was playing footie and playing for his team, end of story. There's a cynical message in there somewhere for modern players if they cared to decypher it......
Good channel lad.
I hope Trent signs his new contract. I’m a huge fan of his. A bad game doesn’t make a bad player.
It’s just the lack of effort in some situations against Man Utd was worrying
In front of a global audience, you decide to show a lack of desire.... Socks down to the ankles and strolls about like it's the last of the summer wine.
You showed you're more spanish because we didn't see a Scouser.
Both Robertson and trent need to move on. Bradley is ready to step in for trent and costas is adequate for now but we are looking at left back options. Unfortunately trent is causing problems within the dressing room from all accounts and that cant be allowed.
Huson-Odoi will destroy him if he gives the same level of effort against NFO.
Correct 🤦♂️
The Trent story might end up looking like Mesut Ozil at Arsenal... rewarding laziness with a huge contract will backfire.... If he wants Madrid let the lad go!
TAA has not been right since he moaned at Slot for being subbed. Now his head is turned it puts out bid for the Premier League and the European Cup into doubt. If he wants to continue sulking then he must leave. He will drag the whole squad down with him.
Sell him he wants to leave.
The thing is that ha has always been like that ever since the 2020-21 season.
He should leave
It's hillarious to me that Real Madrid want that clown. I suppose he'll be great for them since they only have a handful of tough games each season. He'll be great against the likes of Betis, Valladolid, etc. But against decent teams, he's a liability.
Maybe this was Trent´s way of stating he wants to go to irr-eal mad-rid... I know these dictator Franco´s darlings aren´t in a good place, but current Trent isn´t nowhere near good enough for even them.
I can accept almost anything from my club´s player, AS LONG AS THEY GIVE EVERYTHING! I hope Bradley is fully fit.
Trent is ridiculously overrated always has been. The lad can pass that's it, that is literally his only attribute. Take the money an get his gone this month, his heads already in Madrid an we've got a better RB in Conor Bradley already
Every player has bad games but it felt like Trent was not even putting an effort to do well defensively . I mean jogging back when Man U are attacking with full force ?? When Napoli thrashed us it felt like we weren’t good enough and I can accept that somewhat but not for a second did it feel like any one of our players didn’t want it enough . Everyone was playing bad but at least they were trying ……this on the other hand . Also if we aren’t going to sign a lb in this transfer window then I really do hope we recall Owen beck . Trent’s disasterclass was a one off thing but robbo has been poor all season (didn’t play nearly as bad as Trent but was nowhere near good enough )
He got two assists though...
I think Robinson has been more error prone that Trent this season. If Trent stays, he can work on some defensive things (no question) as he approaches the peak of his career. Robbo's race is nearly run. So if, as a fanbase if we want to be a be smart about this, get behind Trent and lift him up if he is having a bad game. Long term we will have glory days ahead and it ill be don to TAA's unique skill. A big contributing factor behind TAA bad performance, yesterday, I think, is that Szobo as out of the team, and we had very little energy on Trent's side of midfield(curtis seemed tired or was ??).... If Slot made a mistake on the subs, I don't know, I still think this is a point gained and a great wake-up call. Being an armchair quarterback is not really my thing, but TAA created the penalty opportunity. So once we went 2-1 up If Conor, Harvey and Endo came on, we probably would have more legs and won the match. That said, I don't think it's time for Slot out chants :-) It's a draw..... I hope we learn from this, and pick up the points in Nottingham.... YNWA
Just his effort is the problem for me. Trent has had a very good season.
@@DavidCondronLFC Agreed, it's a tough lesson from yesterday. I am guessing this will improve too.
Who's robinson get it right
To be totally honest Trent had a really bad day and i know he’s had some bad days in the past but this looked like he doesn’t want to be here anymore? I mean he just didn’t want to try it was like Torres, out of the three i think he wants to go and if i was Slot i would bench him and give Bradly the opportunity because i think Bradly is a better defender than Trent but not for the passing, let him go