Great report! I remember these trains very well when I grew up in Cascais in the 1980s. They didn’t have air conditioning then, so in the summer months people used to prop the double doors open for ventilation. My mother was not amused.
Hi mackieap, did your family have anything to do with Lisbon Casuals Sports Club? It was based at St Julian's International School in Carcavelos. I'm sure somehow your family and mine will have known many of the same people assuming your family were 'ex-pats'?
Took this train every day for about two weeks back in 2019. Went to watch the Estoril Open tennis tournament. It didn't even bother me if the trains were a few minutes late, because the scenery was just beautiful. Sunny weather every day! I'm from South Africa and compared to our railway system, this was another world to me. Thanks for the video! Took me back to one amazing holiday I had!
Thank you Superalb. Some lovely memories for me in the video. I lived in Carcavelos while working in Portugal from 1986 - 1989. I loved it. I used this train a lot to go to both Lisboa and Estoril and Cascais. Can't believe it is the same rolling stock - albeit upgraded. I'll be keeping this one and sharing it with my youngest son who was born in Lisbon in 1987. He won't remember any of it but I'll force him to watch with my commentary anyway!! Thanks again.
Thank you, Superalbs Travels! I really like your video. Your video is very beautiful. It is simple and effective. You explain everything well, quickly and in detail, no dull moment. We see beautiful landscapes, well filmed, beautiful, thanks to your care. Thanks to you ! I loved your train. Friendships
It's a lovely part of the world, nice people too. I stayed at Cascais years back and enjoyed exploring the coast along to Lisbon, which is a gem of a city. I remember the rail trip along the coast as being inexpensive and very pretty.
I took the train to Cascais back in 2000, and remember the distinctive multiple units. The train did not stop at all of the stations, so if you wanted an intermediate station, you had to check the timetable carefully. In Cascais don't miss out on eating grilled sardines. There are lots of nice restaurants. The trip to Sintra from Lisbon is also nice.
Thanks for putting it together. Now that I live in Michigan it brings me back memories when I used to ride it every day from Carcavelos to Lisbon to go to college. With my eyes closed I could tell exactly where the train was. Trains didn't have AC nor that ugly yellow front but the seats were better. They were also much more punctual.
Great video! That line, despite not being much known as a senical one, it has some great views. It also has some unique features comparing with the rest of network since it was operated by a private company until the 70s. It has a different electrification, a direrent loading gauge, a different platform height and some of the oldest trains in regular operation in Portugal and Europe.
it's so cool i can see what these other trains of my country, i think most of these used to ride in the Aveiro district up until 2002. i can still remember ridding on them, i just didn't know they were exported to other districts.
We did this journey with friends a few years ago, one morning in May. It was a lovely day and we walked back to Estoril along the promenade, stopping for lunch at a cabin on the prom. A couple of my friends had sardines which were fantastic.
When on holiday in Cascais in the early 1990's I remember using this train service into Lisbon and back several times. The trains back then had plastic seating, and the local youths were able to jam open the doors and train surf. The staff didn't seem to care!
Enjoyable video, thanks. I first travelled on this line in 1971 as a British school pupil on an educational cruise (SS Nevasa) which called at Lisbon. More recently my partner and I did this journey to Cascais a few years ago. As stated, the trains are pretty much identical to the 1971 ones. A short but very enjoyable journey.
In Northeern between Oporto and Espinho is the line on Theo Seaside top, and from Viana do Castelo to Caminha is too on the seaside. Spectacular. And on the Algarve.
Interesting to see the permanent platform ramp for level access for wheelchair users and those with walking difficulties. Good idea when the trains have a standard set. The station wasn't too bad for one with limited services - at least the basics were there even if the design was a tad brutalist. Good vid as always.
Yay, I've ridden this train so often - at the bargain fare of €1.90! (In an attempt to make the ever present problem of graffiti easier to remove, many carriages have had their attractive ribbed stainless steel sides covered by plain panels.)
In fact Rossio is bigger than Santa Apolónia and almost only serves the Sintra suburban line. São Bento in Porto is a very beautiful building with more than 20000 tiles that depicts Portugal’s history.
I used this service when I visited for Expo 1998 ... that was before the aircon, there seemed to be an open door policy as a way to keep cool - interesting, am sure health & safety would have blown a fuse!
In the late 60s the line was owned by the Estoril company who also owned the casino and the Palacio hotel. They had two classes, with various livestock going to market in the second class at times. The seats were vinyl and faced in the direction of travel. As kids we would reverse some of the sears to make club seating, much to the displeasure of the ticket punchers who would go through the cars between stations. When the weather was bad the Atlantic waves would splash over the train as well as the Marginal road next to the tracks.
I recently traveled on this route from Cais Do Sodre till Sao Joao de Estoril. Amazing journey on a bright March afternoon. The rolling stock are still the same ones you rode on 🙂
Used tô bem more but as This os very old trains they just get facelift síndromes its getting harder tô have parts so few that got big brockdowns become donators for the ones still running and as result of that they had tô do cuts on time table
Now this is a trip I've done. It was a very wet & windy March day. The outside of the train was so dirty, the view out the window was obscured. Had a really good curry in Cascais in one of the Indian restaurants there. Why not mention Rossio station? That's pretty too.
I commute everyday in these trains and my father used to tell me that these were the same carriages as back in his youth, so interesting to see he was right and how these were in the past. They are currently modernizing the line, so other trains can operate on it as well, i think their intention is to finally retire these trains
I just checked, both the Linha de Cascais and the Dutch network are 1.5 kV DC. Ofc it depends on other factors, but I can imagine Dutch trains and network might be compatible...
They are not compatible because the standard gauge in portugal is 1668mm (iberian gauge) and the dutch is 1430mm (international gauge) as the majority of the countries
Those trains with the yellow driver cab remains me of the trains used in Japan. Are those trains Japanese but used in Lisbon in Portugal. Very nice trains.
Those fluted Stainless Steel sides were built under license from Budd of the USA. These cars have much in common with the Budd Car DMU and the trains still used by PATCO to link Philadelphia with New Jersey. See this video for a comparison: ruclips.net/video/_ObiPJ6RQr8/видео.html
You mentioned the "Additional extra services terminating at Oeiras for commuters" I am able to find nothing special about Oeiras station. Perhaps I am missing something?
Turn line is going to be completely renewed in the Next 2-3 years. And new trains also. Until the 1920's there were direct express trains between Estoril (Casino Resort) and Paris Austerlitz.
heres another Info about this Line: The Trains that run there are the Most Outdated in the Lisbon Urban Lines, The engines arent built anymore and The Electricty that run in the Line is Different from the Rest and in the olden days the line was better than Sintra Line now its kinda the opposite from my point of view it has survived mostly due to tourism shuffle between Cascais and Lisbon as well for the Locals some of the stations need a complete remodle
Portugal‘s railways are very much stuck in the past in terms of rolling stock. Their most modern passenger equipment is already 20 years old, and the rest is at least from the 90s. It‘s a very interesting system worth checking out
@@diogorodrigues747 Interesting. Stadler Flirts seem to have been ordered from what I can tell. With Spain ordering special high-capacity Flirts for its urban services, maybe CP could follow up the order for Lisbon‘s network.
in my opinion this is one of the worst lines on the lisbon urban railway system becuz its really old and thats the reason its always being repaired and becuz of so many tourists some times its really dirty and the station alcantra mar smells like piss and shit all becuz of the night clubs around but still its not all that bad but becuz of how old the line is its hard to ride it becuz of being always repaired
Great report! I remember these trains very well when I grew up in Cascais in the 1980s. They didn’t have air conditioning then, so in the summer months people used to prop the double doors open for ventilation. My mother was not amused.
Hi mackieap, did your family have anything to do with Lisbon Casuals Sports Club? It was based at St Julian's International School in Carcavelos. I'm sure somehow your family and mine will have known many of the same people assuming your family were 'ex-pats'?
Took this train every day for about two weeks back in 2019. Went to watch the Estoril Open tennis tournament. It didn't even bother me if the trains were a few minutes late, because the scenery was just beautiful. Sunny weather every day! I'm from South Africa and compared to our railway system, this was another world to me. Thanks for the video! Took me back to one amazing holiday I had!
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it!
Thank you Superalb. Some lovely memories for me in the video. I lived in Carcavelos while working in Portugal from 1986 - 1989. I loved it. I used this train a lot to go to both Lisboa and Estoril and Cascais. Can't believe it is the same rolling stock - albeit upgraded. I'll be keeping this one and sharing it with my youngest son who was born in Lisbon in 1987. He won't remember any of it but I'll force him to watch with my commentary anyway!! Thanks again.
Aww, that's nice to hear! Hope you both enjoyed it. :)
Thank you, Superalbs Travels! I really like your video. Your video is very beautiful. It is simple and effective. You explain everything well, quickly and in detail, no dull moment. We see beautiful landscapes, well filmed, beautiful, thanks to your care. Thanks to you ! I loved your train. Friendships
It is truly a great ride and you capture the experience well. It doesn't seem to have changed in many years.
It's a lovely part of the world, nice people too. I stayed at Cascais years back and enjoyed exploring the coast along to Lisbon, which is a gem of a city. I remember the rail trip along the coast as being inexpensive and very pretty.
I took the train to Cascais back in 2000, and remember the distinctive multiple units. The train did not stop at all of the stations, so if you wanted an intermediate station, you had to check the timetable carefully.
In Cascais don't miss out on eating grilled sardines. There are lots of nice restaurants.
The trip to Sintra from Lisbon is also nice.
I did this same journey on a miserable and rainy summers day back in 2011
Thanks for putting it together. Now that I live in Michigan it brings me back memories when I used to ride it every day from Carcavelos to Lisbon to go to college. With my eyes closed I could tell exactly where the train was. Trains didn't have AC nor that ugly yellow front but the seats were better. They were also much more punctual.
I remember going on those trains to Estoril when I went to Lisbon a couple of years ago. They were comfortable and fun.
Great video!
That line, despite not being much known as a senical one, it has some great views. It also has some unique features comparing with the rest of network since it was operated by a private company until the 70s. It has a different electrification, a direrent loading gauge, a different platform height and some of the oldest trains in regular operation in Portugal and Europe.
it's so cool i can see what these other trains of my country, i think most of these used to ride in the Aveiro district up until 2002. i can still remember ridding on them, i just didn't know they were exported to other districts.
We did this journey with friends a few years ago, one morning in May. It was a lovely day and we walked back to Estoril along the promenade, stopping for lunch at a cabin on the prom. A couple of my friends had sardines which were fantastic.
Excelente trayecto en comboio de Portugal
When on holiday in Cascais in the early 1990's I remember using this train service into Lisbon and back several times. The trains back then had plastic seating, and the local youths were able to jam open the doors and train surf. The staff didn't seem to care!
Sounds so fun!
Enjoyable video, thanks. I first travelled on this line in 1971 as a British school pupil on an educational cruise (SS Nevasa) which called at Lisbon. More recently my partner and I did this journey to Cascais a few years ago. As stated, the trains are pretty much identical to the 1971 ones. A short but very enjoyable journey.
Aren’t they the same trains?
Awesome images with trains and nice train ride! Excellent video! Thumbs Up 👍👍😎
In Northeern between Oporto and Espinho is the line on Theo Seaside top, and from Viana do Castelo to Caminha is too on the seaside. Spectacular. And on the Algarve.
Interesting to see the permanent platform ramp for level access for wheelchair users and those with walking difficulties. Good idea when the trains have a standard set. The station wasn't too bad for one with limited services - at least the basics were there even if the design was a tad brutalist. Good vid as always.
The Portuguese railways are impressive and very unique
Agree, I really liked my time here.
A lovely scenic route . I bet there's big swells in the bay when it gets rough. Great video.
Yay, I've ridden this train so often - at the bargain fare of €1.90! (In an attempt to make the ever present problem of graffiti easier to remove, many carriages have had their attractive ribbed stainless steel sides covered by plain panels.)
I really enjoyed this video - what a scenic day trip from Lisbon. Thanks!
Thanks! It's a nice little day trip I think. :)
You have to check Lisboa Rossio train station (inside and outside) and Porto São Bento. To me they are the most beautiful portuguese train stations!
I did have a VERY brief look at Rossio, it was nice!
In fact Rossio is bigger than Santa Apolónia and almost only serves the Sintra suburban line. São Bento in Porto is a very beautiful building with more than 20000 tiles that depicts Portugal’s history.
I used this service when I visited for Expo 1998 ... that was before the aircon, there seemed to be an open door policy as a way to keep cool - interesting, am sure health & safety would have blown a fuse!
In the late 60s the line was owned by the Estoril company who also owned the casino and the Palacio hotel. They had two classes, with various livestock going to market in the second class at times. The seats were vinyl and faced in the direction of travel. As kids we would reverse some of the sears to make club seating, much to the displeasure of the ticket punchers who would go through the cars between stations. When the weather was bad the Atlantic waves would splash over the train as well as the Marginal road next to the tracks.
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I recently traveled on this route from Cais Do Sodre till Sao Joao de Estoril. Amazing journey on a bright March afternoon. The rolling stock are still the same ones you rode on 🙂
Awesome! Not long left for them now...
Just one small point the casino is not in Monte Estoril but in Estoril
10 Trains per hour is pretty impressive for a coastal commuter train.
Used tô bem more but as This os very old trains they just get facelift síndromes its getting harder tô have parts so few that got big brockdowns become donators for the ones still running and as result of that they had tô do cuts on time table
back in 2001 I took this train everyday for 12 months between Monte Estoril & Docas Alcantara.
Now this is a trip I've done. It was a very wet & windy March day. The outside of the train was so dirty, the view out the window was obscured. Had a really good curry in Cascais in one of the Indian restaurants there.
Why not mention Rossio station? That's pretty too.
The Atlantic Ocean only begins at Paço d'arcos after the Forte/lighthouse: Bugio.
Oh fair enough, thanks!
I commute everyday in these trains and my father used to tell me that these were the same carriages as back in his youth, so interesting to see he was right and how these were in the past. They are currently modernizing the line, so other trains can operate on it as well, i think their intention is to finally retire these trains
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I Live in Santo Amaro de Oeiras the best beach on the coast!
I'll have to visit it then! :)
Monte Estoril looks like a warmer version of Dawlish
That's what I was thinking when I was there haha.
I just checked, both the Linha de Cascais and the Dutch network are 1.5 kV DC. Ofc it depends on other factors, but I can imagine Dutch trains and network might be compatible...
They are not compatible because the standard gauge in portugal is 1668mm (iberian gauge) and the dutch is 1430mm (international gauge) as the majority of the countries
Those trains with the yellow driver cab remains me of the trains used in Japan. Are those trains Japanese but used in Lisbon in Portugal. Very nice trains.
Perhaps
Ok. But please would you not annoy me please. Thanks.
This reminds me too of those Japanese EMUs.
Portuguese trains built by Sorefame in Amadora, Lisbon.
@@paxundpeace9970 Absolutely.
They remind me of en57 EMU for some reason
Exactly but EN57 isn't THAT old.
@@runoflife87 yeah, 1 or 2 decades younger
Those fluted Stainless Steel sides were built under license from Budd of the USA. These cars have much in common with the Budd Car DMU and the trains still used by PATCO to link Philadelphia with New Jersey. See this video for a comparison: ruclips.net/video/_ObiPJ6RQr8/видео.html
Nice one.
Thanks!
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I took this train to Cascais a long time ago , Bach in about
That's not the Atlantic. It is the Tejo river mouth ( Tagus)!
It's actually the Atlantic.
You mentioned the "Additional extra services terminating at Oeiras for commuters" I am able to find nothing special about Oeiras station. Perhaps I am missing something?
It seems like where the depot is, and also has more platforms which are good for terminating in without blocking the line.
Turn line is going to be completely renewed in the Next 2-3 years. And new trains also. Until the 1920's there were direct express trains between Estoril (Casino Resort) and Paris Austerlitz.
Wow that's amazing, what a journey!
heres another Info about this Line: The Trains that run there are the Most Outdated in the Lisbon Urban Lines, The engines arent built anymore and The Electricty that run in the Line is Different from the Rest and in the olden days the line was better than Sintra Line now its kinda the opposite from my point of view it has survived mostly due to tourism shuffle between Cascais and Lisbon as well for the Locals some of the stations need a complete remodle
I think the front of the trains look like the Tyne and Wear metro trains.
That's also a good comparison!
I took this
Such a strange thing to see the EMUs that old not in Eastern Europe.
Portugal‘s railways are very much stuck in the past in terms of rolling stock. Their most modern passenger equipment is already 20 years old, and the rest is at least from the 90s. It‘s a very interesting system worth checking out
@@bahnspotterEU But not for much longer... New trains are arriving soon to Portugal, the first ones next year!
@@diogorodrigues747 Interesting. Stadler Flirts seem to have been ordered from what I can tell. With Spain ordering special high-capacity Flirts for its urban services, maybe CP could follow up the order for Lisbon‘s network.
I am Portuguese
the river is called tejo not tagus
I can see people are wearing masks, which is very good
Here in Portugal, it is mandatory to wear masks, so everyone is wearing masks bc of that
@@GuilhermeSoares-ol3yf Thanks a lot for the information. Is it mandatory in shops/stores and public transport right?
@@paxundpeace9970 Yes, that's right!
@@GuilhermeSoares-ol3yf And back then, when this was filmed (last summer) it was also mandatory in busy streets.
:)
in my opinion this is one of the worst lines on the lisbon urban railway system becuz its really old and thats the reason its always being repaired and becuz of so many tourists some times its really dirty and the station alcantra mar smells like piss and shit all becuz of the night clubs around but still its not all that bad but becuz of how old the line is its hard to ride it becuz of being always repaired