Is There Religion In The Afterlife? | Life After Death
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- Some have imagined that heaven is a state of endless worship rituals. But Swedenborg learned that heavenly “worship” is actually much more interesting, active and practical.
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Thank you Curtis!! I really love hearing about life in heaven - the living of the highest and best life of loving the Lord and loving each other!!❤❤
Yes, Mary! Heaven doesn't seem that far away when we can practice what it's all about right here and now!
This “heavenly angel” is grateful for preacher Curtis down here on earth taking complex esoteric wisdom and disentangling it in ways we can all understand and feel. (As above so below) 🧸🍎= 🙏😇
Thanks for the kind words, user-kf7. So glad you feel the disentangling is helpful!
This is great. I often think if I'm doing enough here in this dimension, I am not a church goer but focus more on the love of others ... and myself. It truly is good news.
Thought I'd drop a poem since I'm here.
Let God In
In the darkest of our hours
In the ever changing light
Let God’s Love embrace you
Let His guidance be your sight
Among all the struggling souls
On this world and the next
Let God’s Grace restore you
From all things hexed
There is within our being
A light that shines forlorn
Waiting for the wisdom within us
To be nurtured and reborn
In every ounce of trouble
There’s a clue to who we are
Leading onto greatness
That’s so near and yet so far
I invite the ever present
I invite the yet unclear
I invite the many masters
To stay close and to be near
Let’s kick this evolution
That we all can feel is naught
Not conducive to the outcome
For which we have been taught
It’s just a fleeting moment
It’s coming to that place
Where we can all delight
In all things that we face
Face off bad emotions
Kick them firmly out the door
Don’t let them keep us bounded
To things we want no more
Let us prepare the welcome;
Realise our sin;
Put a smile upon our dial;
And Let God In!
Thanks for sharing your poem, Gail! I am touched particularly (today) by the 4th stanza -- we can learn about ourselves from our struggles, and it pulls us forward! Blessings to you in your lifestyle of loving and giving!
Cool to learn about heavenly church
I learned some new stuff too, Jon. Cool indeed!
I can see you having an audience when in Heaven , look for me sitting in the front row 🙏🏻💕🙏🏻
Take the place in the back, so you may be called. If you take a place in front, you might have to make place for someone greater than you and you will be ashamed.
I want to say, James? 😅
@@RKroese I always sit in the front cause there is less distractions and tall people don’t obscure my vision and I can focus better! Front seat people aren’t ashamed to be called on and are braver and nothing to hide, knowing you don’t know is not shameful and I don’t know but am searching, all the time . Pls think before giving advice and shame people for what you are ashamed of . Many thanks and I apologize if you didn’t mean what you wrote and I took it the wrong way . Love & Light always💕🙏🏻
It'll be interesting to see what goes on "on the other side," light-yi2me. I (Chara) am a front-row kind of girl myself -- just want to soak it up at close range! Maybe I'll meet you in some front row somewhere!
@@offTheLeftEye I certainly hope so 🤗 Thank you 🙏🏻❤️🌻
Ah I often sit in front of a presentation that I am eager to hear. Not to make myself important, but to absorb it all. @@RKroese
Goodness and truth become a mantra ✨🔥✨
A good one, Heart2Heart.
CC: You are awesome,too. And, yes, IT IS COOL. 🤜🏽🤛🏼
Haha! Thanks for the love, Darby!
Thank you for sharing, Curtis. God bless you and your family. Jesus says we must put our faith into action and love one another. 😊
Amen to that, Leona! LIVE the truth we know, and LOVE one another!
Amen Curtis! 😊
Have a lovely day Leona. @@leonaheraty3760
Beautiful cathedral. Thank you for making this video. It took me most of my life to understand that our state-of-being is the most important thing -- not going through the motions, just showing up to church services -- because if what you are doing is not feeding the soul and inspiration the physical will mean nothing. What is important is caring deeply about making a difference in the lives of others and developing our soul in such a way that love flows into us from Heaven because we desire it and it flows out of us into others because we want others to share in what we know and what we are learning.
Well put, H.S. Thanks!
“Live the life of neighborly love”, I love this quote, thank you Curtis, for highlighting the life of true worship.
It is a stunningly simple and powerful concept, isn't it, Gabrielle?
This show is the best thing about Mondays.
Lovely thing to say, explosives 101 -- thank you!
It looks so beautiful and peaceful and comforting! I’d want to be in that cathedral for comfort and its smells !!! Basically, home 🏡
Sweet, Sharon!
Beautiful video. Thank you Curtis and team 🙏
You're welcome, Yvonne! Sweet that these ideas touched the "beauty receptors" in your heart!
Thank You Curtis. I appreciate this video. I needed to hear this. I think in the heavens I would need hands on.
Lots of hands-on in heaven, I'm thinking, Heather!
Good episode.. The passages from ES are always enlightening.
Glad you liked it, source4magic. And yes, the ES passages always stretch my mind upward a bit!
Thank You Curtis.
You're welcome, independentpuppy!
Practicing concepts that are religiously based are the guidelines for me to use in this life on Earth with the hope that I might someday be able to build within my own personal cathedral.
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Beautiful practice and beautiful goal, Peter!
Thank you Curtis wonderful and simply explained the what tru worship is in heaven
Glad it made sense to you, ida!
Absolutely brilliant stuff. Thank you Curtis.
You're welcome, Tanya! Glad it feels enlightening!
Ty so much for your insights 🙏🙏🙏
You're welcome, Shannon!
The analogy of the church is like the human mind.
If God, goodness at truth, are directly in our focus, we are illuminated more than anywhere else in our mind.
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Yes, Heart2Heart!
I always thought the Heavenly Kingdom and the Spiritual Kingdom were one and the same! I definitely need to do more reading and studying of Swedenborg's work and slow down and really try to understand his writings and not skim his through his works.
Thank you so much for your in-depth explanations, Curtis! 😊
There's a lot to understand in Swedenborg, Leona -- be easy on yourself! Curtis has done a bunch of videos in this series on Life After Death that describe the two kingdoms. It's all heaven, but Swedenborg describes one kind of mind/heart-set that is more love centered (a "heavenly" or "celestial" disposition), and one that is more truth centered (a "spiritual" disposition). No need to fret about it, though -- we end up in the place that is the perfect fit for us!
Good stuff ❤❤
Glad it lands that way, Catalina!
Thank you so much for this light. ❤❤❤
You're welcome, Sonia. Glad it feels enlightening for you!
Probably remember this forever. Many thanks!
That's a powerful statement, Ken! You're welcome!
That's off course a magnificent building you show in the beginning! In one previous video you showed it just in the background and I was so intrigued that I had to ask for what it was and where it stands. After your kind response, I found it on Wikipedia, where I could feed my eyes on it even more. I really love these magnificent stone churches! So, given that outlook, the content of this video makes someone like me really happy... Thank you and best wishes🙂
You're welcome, Alberad! It is a beautiful cathedral -- inspiring just to look at, as you've discovered!
Yes it IS cool Curtis!
Haha, GoodWill! Thanks for being with us on that!
So good!! ❣❣❣
Glad it struck you that way, Wunderschule!
I loved the fact that you can come and go into a temple as you please in the spiritual world without angering God and even getting punished for it. God clearly knows to darn well that church is boring for some people but is very cool about it at the same time. Especially as his children are churches in general. I don't mind church at first but there are so many false teachings and people who do harm then good with their own Christian religions I want to stay away from that and love and worship God with the goodness and happiness I feel in my heart. However even though God may understand why a person doesn't come to church he still wishes for us to keep the sabbath day holy which can be hard now days.
As this video pointed out, WisdomPanda, one way of defining "worship to God" is living a life of love to others and to God. That's a way to keep the Sabbath, for sure, whether you attend a weekly service or not.
Great point about each of God's children being a "church" in themselves!
"...[T]here is a great multitude of people, ignorant of the true nature of heaven, who cannot conceive of heavenly joy in any other form than perpetual worship of God." ~ Vera Christiana Religio 738:5 (Rose Translation)
Yep! The worship can take lots of different forms, though, eh?
A most interesting topic and very informative. Sometimes on Sunday mornings I wonder, is it only the New Church in the afterlife, since by that time we should have no questions about Swedenborg's teachings. Or will there be United Church of Christ, United Church of Canada, Church of England, Church in Wales, Church of Scotland, etc.
Great question, Dennis! Swedenborg says we'll all be instructed in the truth of who God is -- but that info may be able to infill all kinds of different faith traditions. As Swedenborg says, when we enter the next life, we're not asked what we believe, but how we LIVED. Love is the main thing, as I understand it!
Really helpful insights, as always. Thank you. I like to imagine the workings of the mind as a council of advisors collaborating to inform our practices and decisions. Each council member is keeping an ear out for good teachings and doing work to apply those principles in novel circumstances, looking for potential applications on different levels of experience, say.
Perhaps this relates to how celestial angels remain present in our inner stillness, protecting and nurturing our deepest loves and intentions, while influences from the spiritual kingdom focus on finding the means and refining them. Working in tandem, continuously.
Lovely picture, Liz! Thanks for sharing this reflection.
Hello Curtis Childs, I have a request. I've lived on the streets for a decade, but now my life has turned around and I have a family and a full-time job. One of my colleagues has a character trait that surfaces in many homeless, namely: Being proud of the evil they do and feeling shame for the good.
Because they see the good as weakness and the evil as strength.
It's been a long time since I've read Swedenborg, but maybe you can make a short about it, because I show my colleague the clips you make sometimes and I want to tell him this character trait without "throwing the pearls before the swine" and have him attack me about it.
I would like a short about how some people brag about the evil and how they hide the good.
Thanks for the suggestion, RK. Not Curtis here, but I'll pass it along to him.
Feels sad to me that people see good as weakness and evil as strength...... Why is that, do you think?
Awesome!
Glad it hit the mark for you, Josue!
❤ can you do a chapter on neighbourly love, what it is and how to do it?
Cheshire here is one of my favorites about how to love others. There are plenty more! ruclips.net/user/livepl7s8kiLrhE
He actually wrote that the churches in the celestial or heavenly kingdom are simpler or "without magnificence.” However, he also wrote that the celestial people themselves aren’t less intelligent, they are actually thousands of times more intelligent and wise. About number 225, when I first read it I thought it was confusing because it appeared like Swedenborg was saying that there are no preachers in the celestial kingdom, but then a sentence or two later he wrote that there are. The way I understood it after reading the Latin and comparing it to places in his other books where he wrote about it was that in the celestial kingdom the "preachers" (because they're not really called that) are more like guides due to the fact that they don't teach from a position of princely or kingly authority, but rather from a tone of asserting common knowledge. The difference is between asserting a truth the whole community has already accepted and then gaining further enlightenment on it, vs preaching fundamental truths that the whole community isn't aligned closely on, or hasn't fully accepted into their heart. In ancient Greek, the philosophers like Plato, Socrates, etc (who I think are the “spiritual” people like those Swedenborg wrote about), would turn over ideas constantly in the public forum, never quite accepting them in full because their hearts were partially divided. So they had to talk and talk, or debate and debate, and never quite get to the heart of the issue and move past it. We’ve all been there whenever we’ve sat through a long, seemingly unnecessary meeting at church or at work - rather than getting to the heart of the issue, it just drags on. For this reason, the spiritual people are gathered under authority figures the Lord has put into place because they think along the lines of the group, or groupthink, more-so based on social influence, rather than based on a love for the truth itself, because to love a truth for its own sake is to love the good in it, its essential usefulness, i.e., to love the Lord.
Thank you so much AcousticAce for these wonderful insights about the kingdoms of heaven. You are quite a scholar, reading in Latin as well. Yes my understanding is that there are priests in the spiritual world who go visit the heavenly or celestial kingdom, but that the highest angels have the Word inscribed on their hearts and do not need so much instruction. They are fully engaged with living it. Yes your observation of a group think makes sense to me as well, since the highest heaven is mostly focused on love to the Lord and the spiritual kingdom on love for the neighbor. Thank you so much!
Ironically, the cover of your video, the yellowish thing seems to be the color that I had in a dream that was involving my deceased father who suffered a lot before he died, where he was telling me, "I'm surrounded by a wall of compassion.". That was the color of the part of the wall I saw.
Wow, Geese. Gives me the shivers. "Surrounded by a wall of compassion" is such a powerful thing to experience in the midst of suffering. Thanks so much for sharing that heart-warming story. And "gold" does correspond to God's love!
@@offTheLeftEye I hope so. One of my greatest fears is that there is no afterlife after this, I know you guys do a lot of videos on it but unfortunately there's no absolute proof, and that's not scary just for me despite the fact that I've gone through a lot of suffering too, but for my loved ones who have passed on do I feel deserve a better thing than what happened here.
The story you shared sure confirms the afterlife for me, Geese. Your father saw and felt the love there, and its strength. Perhaps the reason God does not offer absolute proof is that it would take away our freedom to reject it. The edges of faith fill in where certainty ends. @@GeeseFX
Thank you
You're welcome, Kent!
Thank you again for the great content... I just started writing a piece on Emanuel Swedenborg come to find out he's a master number 33, that's his main lifepath if we combine his birth date numbers (The date that is counted by the new way of counting dates).
Emboss, we are glad you found our channel. So you are writing about Swedenborg! That is so cool. Here is a video to give you more material. ruclips.net/user/live3Q14EcEwQVQ
Thank you so much you guys are the best!!!@@offTheLeftEye
Have a great day emboss.
You too! Love and have a good one@@offTheLeftEye
I have been to a different kind of place in the afterlife where the truth is written in the laws of physics and all the inhabitants, including all the plants and animals worship by the force of nature within them. Water for instance worships by flowing in accordance to gravity and subatomic particles worship according to quantum physics. This creates love and peace and joy and authenticity and belonging. The people are also nature angels and they obey their divine life code, in which is recorded the instructions for their behavior. All government is by internal instinct and leaders and rulers are the ones who organize social events. All the work of creating order is done by the grid of predetermination and nothing ever happens that is not the will of God because the will.of God is the life code and the life code cannot be disobeyed
There is no free will there at all. The worship services are social events where people dress up in clothes they have made by hand and marvel at each other's creativity and talent. The rituals all involve food and the purpose of it is to glorify God and God's unfathomable generosity and wisdom for creating this perfect predetermined system where all of infinite reality and eternal life is pre-made in utter appropriateness down to the tiniest quark. That God knows so much that he can make this reality for them is considered a matter for endless celebration, and appreciating the perfection and wisdom in each other is the love of God that is shared. Every day there is somebody's birthday, or somebody's wedding and the kings and queens who plan and host events are busy 24 7. Time is different there so in spite of how busy everyone is, there is always time to go make something beautiful with your hands. These angels who are willing to let God make all the choices for them are very special indeed. I think Swedenborg didn't get to see this realm because if you are not one of those perfectly obedient no free will angel.you can't even visit. No one with free will is allowed in, not ever. I got to go because I'm from there.Even my human life is pre-planned in minute detail. I don't actually have free will. You do, maybe, but I don't. Cool, eh?
Thanks, Eric. I love the idea that everything acting according to the order of creation is called Worship. The "free will" thing is interesting to ponder. The idea of living in complete gratitude for what God has given us is beautiful, for sure.
@@offTheLeftEye yeah, so to give you some context to consider while you are pondering the free will issue, I am here on earth to try out free will in an atmosphere of perfect forgiveness so if I make a mistake I can still get home.My whole life is planned in minute detail right down to what my atoms are doing and how my electrons are dancing around in my brain, but all of this serves just one purpose to get me to the point of choice. I don’t get to choose anything that happens, I get to choose whether or not to accept what happens as the love of God towards me. I get to choose to be grateful or not. I was sent here to meet my true love and soul mate, and I have in fact met them, plural. I have a spouse and a brother figure and I have a son and parents and aunties and uncles and a whole bunch of friends and of course Jesus. So God didn’t lie. But most of these people are in the spirit world. They have died and even though God has allowed them to stay in the World of Spirits to hang with me until I die, I’m still completely alone in the physical. Getting to the place where I’m ok with this arrangement is not easy and saying that I’m grateful for a life in which all my family is dead is next to impossible. God keeps pointing out that in exchange for having my family in the afterlife I have been given all these gifts of clairvoyance and astral travel and experiences in the other realms and a big big work to do for God there. But I’m still freaked out about how closely my work resembles witchcraft and what other Christian people think of me and how unfair it is that I am stuck in a human body and all my friends and loved ones are free to frolic in the garden of prayer as I call the afterlife. I’m not very close to being grateful yet. Nevertheless, I don’t have free will. This is the life God gave me. I only get to choose with what attitude I will live it. Also I am not Eric I am Eric’s wife. My husband is dead. This is his Google account. I love to think he is still participating in the internet culture he loved so much when he was alive.
In case I haven't mentioned this before 😇, these teachings of Swedenborg are very Baha'i-like. My feeling is that Swedenborg experienced Christian communities with churches in heaven because that was his background. You've mentioned before how Swedenborg described the various heavenly communities as being composed of like-minded people, or maybe people on the same spiritual level. Maybe that's why he was drawn to Christian communities. This same principle is mentioned in the Baha'i writings, that "like seeketh like".
Have you read Mark Twain's Letters from Heaven? This book could not be printed in his lifetime because of how it made fun of the common understanding of heaven, the harp music 24 hours a day, the discomfort of being hit by angels' wings, etc. Many people my age cannot sit for an hour in church without becoming unconscious, much less endless days. And your mentioning the insincerity of people who listen to how we should be without any intention of actually practicing this life style, like loving your enemy and turning the other cheek. This is one of the main reasons, IMO that younger people are choosing to not belong to a church. They may want to belong to a religion, but they expect it to be sincere in practice.
As you probably know, the Baha'i Faith is still young and evolving. We don't have churches, but we do have Houses of Worship, actually called "Dawning Places for the Praise of God", open to all people of all faiths or none to enter and pray or meditate. The purpose of these sacred buildings in the life of the community is for the people to start their day with prayer in the House of Worship and then going about their jobs and occupations in service to the community. Work done in the spirit of service is the same as worship, so most of your day could be considered worshiping God. There's no clergy involved.
You mention all the different levels of heaven where people are drawn to according to their spiritual maturity. Baha'is are drawn to a level called "the Most Glorious" Kingdom. I don't know if Swedenborg mentions this Kingdom, or maybe it didn't exist in his day.
I really liked your presentation!
Harlan! Nice to hear from you again! Thanks for sharing your reflections on this topic. I love hearing about the parallels between Swedenborgianism and Baha'i.
Mark Twain's book sound interesting. And yes, I agree that young people are looking for sincerity.
I love your description of Baha'i houses of worship as a place to begin your day so that you can take your worship into your workday. "Work done in the spirit of service is the same as worship" aligns perfectly with what Swedenborg says! Chara here, and I had the pleasure of visiting a Baha'i Dawning Place in the Chicago area. Absolutely beautiful and serene and inspiring!
To my knowledge, Swedenborg doesn't mention "The Most Glorious Kingdom" by that name. He does describe heaven as full of infinite variety, so who knows what wonders and levels and intricacies and glories we'll witness when we're there! Thanks, Harlan!
Thanks Chara! It's fascinating that the infinite variety of heaven is reflected in the infinite variety of this world. No two snow flakes are the same, no two people are the same, no two bacteria are the same, etc. I do expect that no matter how much insight a person has concerning the world to come, we'll all be amazed as to how much more beautiful it is than what we expected. My feeling is that the levels of heaven probably will continue to expand. The nature of anything living is that it is not static. @@offTheLeftEye
Yes Harlan I think we will all be amazed by the infinite variety and beauty in heaven. Yes heaven is not static and the change will be what keeps it ever new and fascinating. No boredom for sure!@@harlanlang6556
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I have a question. If people from the spiritual kingdom come over to the heavenly kingdom and preach to them because 'preaching' is not a thing in the heavenly kingdom, how are they able to do this? I thought I read in other parts of Swedenborg's works that people from the more outer kingdoms aren't able to breathe in the more inner kingdoms, and in fact, can't even see anything there. Are you able to shed some light?
You're right about the breathability and visibility in different levels of heaven, Nadia. But Swedenborg talks about spirits can be prepared for visits to other communities/levels. Two of the key principles in heaven are LOVE and USEFULNESS, so if something needs to be done to fulfill those two things, accommodations can be made. That's a first, off-the-cuff answer. What do you think?
I need some advice. I want to send my kids a Christian school, because I appreciate God being a part of their learning and I love loving values. However I notice that each school/religion has their own twist on their beliefs and this can cause a bit of negativity in my eyes. like it is veering off the loving path with some of the righteousness. Sometimes compassion is lost. We know from Swedenborgs teachings that God is basically all loving and I believe this. What do you guys do when it comes to steering your kids through a religious upbringing? Especially when you know all the things we know about our all loving God and the afterlife?
I (Karin) hear you, Sheri! Just like with everything about parenting, there is not a one-size-fits-all answer to this question. (And frankly, no matter what tactic we choose as parents, it will work for some kids, only to seemingly backfire with others.) So what I can offer is to just choose a school that you can be most comfortable with, and then try to keep conversations going with your kids about what they are learning. If something comes up that you disagree with or feel uncomfortable about, you can share your differing opinion on that topic. It's actually a good way to instill in your kids that no one has a perfect understanding about things, and that they can feel free to reflect on anything that they are taught. Ultimately, it will be between them and God to decide for themselves what makes sense. And lastly, I can say as a mom of 4 grown kids, trust that God is taking care of them and leading them in developing their own beliefs, no matter what path that takes. You don't have to have the perfect answers or perfect strategies, but only to do the best you can and be there for them with love. ❤️
I believe we came from the afterlife afterlife life we return
I find church so boring
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You're not alone, RD....
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I have often wondered about monks who live in isolation and silence and pray or meditate most of the day. What is their use? Does Swedenborg talk about them?
yes he does talk about them , he mention that heavenly lovr consist of charity so if you live a life that is absent of charity and giving back t o the community you are in wrong he mentions
As davidmandixy indicated, Swedenborg does address that a bit, Stephanie. He says that putting truth and wisdom to USE in the way we interact with others is the key. But I think there are probably uses being served by those isolated meditators, even if we can't see them openly. God, the Father of us all, has a much bigger description of "worthiness" than most of us would, it seems to me. It a person is alive in this world, there's SOME use they're serving. Swedenborg says we can never make a spiritual judgment about anyone -- not even ourselves!
I was not meaning to judge their spirituality only to understand it better. At a meditation training I attended recently, one of the facilitators made an off the cuff comment that they "fill a hole" but did not elaborate. So it got me wondering what is the hole they are filling?@@offTheLeftEye
The facilitator sounds opinionated and not on the right page.
Thank you David, for your response.
Probably don't have the same mind and body in the after life. We're trying to explain it when we have no real experience that we can recall
Lots of different ways to look at it, Patsy. We would say we'll definitely have a different body (in that it's not physical), but we keep our mind -- i.e., our thoughts and feelings. It can still grow and change and be educated and clarified, but it's still us.
But you're right that anyone's conception of it is something they can't prove. We'll all find out when we get there!
@@offTheLeftEye it'll be way so cool when it does
Yes!
Are there Evangelical Preachers with private jets in the afterlife?
I'm thinking not, Dominique?
I was hoping I was heading for the heavenly kingdom. But realistically I think I'm more of a spiritual kingdom person. I just moved house and my new house is made out of stone. Ooooo, interesting!
Interesting, GoodWill! Stone houses are beautiful....
It's hard for us earnest types not to aim for the highest level of any hierarchy. But it's really not a competition. We will be in OUR highest heaven, wherever we are, with no sense of "missing out" or "not being good enough." That thought really helps me (Chara) relax about it all, and give up on even trying to label myself. Swedenborg says we can't even judge OURSELVES as to our spiritual state!
@@offTheLeftEye Love it Chara! "It's hard for us earnest types not to aim for the highest level of any hierarchy." So true! Thank you so much. It does lift a burden knowing that we will be at peace wherever in heaven we end up!
我对你的视频很感兴趣，但我想知道你以前的视频，但字幕被关闭了，我无法获得自动翻译。请将您之前的视频也设置为打开字幕，并设置为自动翻译，以便我能够理解视频内容，非常感谢
Hello shenaishiren -- I'm sorry that our very small team can't make subtitles in all the various languages. I don't think it's as easy as just flipping a switch??? We did have a woman from China help us do a few videos, several years ago, but the project did not continue. Maybe some day it will be possible to do more! Blessings to you.
Create me if i.m wrong we allowed to experience are idear of Heaven then live but what if we don't want to are idear of Heaven
What if you don't want to actually live your idea of heaven? Is that what you're asking, RD? As with everyone, after we die we'll all go through a period of reflecting on our lives, and learning the truth about how life really works. Then we get to choose who we really want to be. And that will lead us to the perfect place for us to live. It will be a growth experience, as Swedenborg describes it, but one in which our spiritual freedom remains intact.
@@offTheLeftEye that is not what I asked. I asked if we have are own idear of Heaven but not what heaven is what if we don't want to live are idear of Heaven
If we don't want to live our idea of heaven then I guess we are choosing not to follow God. @@RainbowDragons123
Jesus Christ of Nazareth.. good question..
Thanks Brody, for being part of the conversation.
What does Swedenborg say about Luke 11:31?
Here is a link to the commentary from New Christian Bible Study on that passage, Delta. newchristianbiblestudy.org/bible/king-james-version/luke/11/
What about the Natural Heaven kingdom? Why are we skipping over the outermost heaven?
Maybe they're not enlightened enough to even grasp the tiniest sliver of knowledge regarding the importance of always praising God. 🤔🤷♂
Fair enough, Immortalblue. Curtis tries to take chunks of these ideas and fits them into a video that does not overwhelm. Absolutely the outermost heaven is part of the story too. Perhaps you have already watched this video about levels in heaven. ruclips.net/user/livejEbuYAqhyEc
The outermost heaven is a place of goodness, focused on obeying God's word. I believe that they are full pf praise as well, perpetualbystander, just not deep understanding perhaps.
@@offTheLeftEye Thanks for the clarification. 👍 I wasn't certain about the true nature of the outermost heaven, I just suggested a possible explanation.
Maybe I got it mixed up with the hellish conditions in...well, hell! 😄😉
Thanks for asking perpetual. We are learning right along with you. @@perpetualbystander4516
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I am still more depressed about how I really really wish its not rude to ask young woman for their age and I'm including here on earth.
Sounds like an ongoing struggle for you, curiousmaster. I wonder if there are any other interests you have that you could focus on? Getting involved in some other kind of pursuit might distract you a bit?
@@offTheLeftEye Not if I still have that ettiquette that I don't feel it makes any sense at all is still stuck in my head or in my mind.
It does seem to hold you back from enjoying life, Curious. I think of the phrase Let go and Let God. Maybe you can let that one go for now. @@curiousmaster1970
@@offTheLeftEye I don't know how as long if it's still stuck in my head and worrying me
And how perfect do I need to be? I want to learn
Perfect is God only.
You can always repent of your faults and (of course) do good to others, without letting anybody know (not even yourself!) and your place in heaven will be prepared.
Only God is perfect, Heather. Swedenborg says that it's not as hard to live a life leading to heaven as we think it is. Making the effort to turn away from harmful behavior, and tuning into loving our neighbor is walking the heaven-bound path. Swedenborg describes heaven as a place of mutual love, so if love to love people, we will fit right in!
@@offTheLeftEye That’s so true but, how about when we get judged by God when we have a life review or/and the second coming of Christ? Will he expect us to be close to being perfect in the second final coming? And how perfect do we need to be to stay out of hell? I don’t smoke,drink,have tattoos,I don’t have piercings and I am a60 year old widow and stay to myself a lot but, I give when I can of myself. I want to please God.
Yes RKroese, we cannot know our own spiritual state, which is a good thing. It keeps us humble, and striving. But Swedenborg does say that is is not as hard to live a life of religion as some people believe.. So I feel hopeful!@@RKroese
Heather here is a playlist of videos about your salvation. studio.ruclips.net/user/playlistPLgtFTXGqZdSlzr2Z1xOLaTdUlJoFURtIm/edit
As for being perfect, I don't think most mothers expect their children to be perfect. They love them and want to support them. How much more so does God want to support us? @@heatherfling7820
Heaven and hell are within you . Religion is hell
Sorry to hear religion has been hell for you, 1MNUTZ. Here's to meaning and blessing in your life in whatever forms work for you.
what happens after i die and i dont know what expect to happen?
ilovemyboyfriend, here is a playlist of videos about what you can expect to happen. Enjoy the amazing things in store for you. studio.ruclips.net/user/playlistPLgtFTXGqZdSkfEPwX_Fwak7SHUFoozpjv/edit
@@offTheLeftEye it wont let me see anything
@@ilovemyboyfriend5425 Let me try again. Here is one about the welcome you will receive. ruclips.net/video/YGjsLrwXkf0/видео.html
Here is one about the shape of heaven ruclips.net/video/NRcPG8LiUrs/видео.html
Here is one about what we will all look like. ruclips.net/video/DfGXjdkGNrI/видео.html
I can send more if you enjoy these!
@@offTheLeftEye im just scsred if i went bk to wicca angels wont like me
@@ilovemyboyfriend5425 Angels always love you! Really, they look for the good inside you and always put a good interpretation on what you are doing What it is about wicca that matters to you?
What is hell?
Is hell just the absence of god, where a godly created soul is sitting?
Here is a playlist of videos about hell, LanguageBLOX. There is much to learn from them. studio.ruclips.net/user/playlistPLgtFTXGqZdSncpNOKE2HvypghEOCCV2Q2/edit
Hell sure is the absence of love, LanguageBLOX. God still tries to protect and care for them, though the reception from evil spirits is very limited.
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We'll see, AnaRanja!
@@offTheLeftEye God dacă vrea te ridica în aer, în alta dimensiune adică...sa vadă cum te descurci și n alta dimensiune...parca scrie undeva asta.Da scrie!
Poeple be come orshiop god
Not sure what you're saying here, RD, but there are lots of ways to worship God besides going to church -- which is one of the points Curtis is making here.
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Nicholas are you saying there will be AI in heaven?
Religion in the afterlife? I hope not. How boring.
No. There's no religion on the other side. 🙏
Depends how you define religion, I guess, theadore. If "religion" is just how you live your life, and your life involves loving and serving others and God, then maybe not boring.