John Lennon at Juke Box Jury
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- John Lennon appears on an edition of the BBC television show Juke Box Jury, recorded on 22 June 1963 and transmitted the following Saturday at 6.35pm.
The recording took place at the BBC Television Theatre in London. There was a 15-minute rehearsal from 7.45pm, a sound and vision test from 8-8.30pm, and the recording took place from 8.30-9.15pm.
No recording of this programme is thought to remain. These photographs below were taken from a TV screen during the broadcast.
First of all, many, many thanks to the person who taped this off-air in 1963 nd to anyone else who has helped preserve it in the 60 years since. I watched this episode of JBJ at the time, but it's my first opportunity to hear John's comments again and they are fascinating. Lennon expressed honest opinions about the sea of rubbish that the panel were asked to 'review. He seems to do this this a little nervously and much more politely then he might have done even six months to a year later, once the massive fame of Beatlemania had offered him a solid defensive barrier. Honesty about new records wasn't common practice back then unless it was some 'elderly' person over, say, 25, who ridiculed anything that was good, hard rock 'n' roll/r 'n' b and there was damn little of that around in Britain in 1963, at least as far as the charts were concerned, something that the Beatles were in the process of changing at the time of this recording and subsequent broadcast. John's comments about Elvis' new release are really heartfelt as he is clearly a major fan of Presley's Sun and early RCA period while totally rejecting the junk that had largely been Elvis' forte since leaving the US army in 1960. Post-army Elvis had been cleaned-up and was developing into an absolute parody of his former self by 1963, sinking steadily to lower and lower depths throughout the '60s with only a short-lived revival in 1968-70 to cheer up the long-suffering fans of the King. John is merely saying what myself and my mates felt in 1963, namely that Elvis had 'sold out', ditched r 'n' r and had gone for the ballad market and the mums and the little girls. It's not important whether you agree with that or not. The importance of this fragment of tape is that someone who is known to be an up and coming rock 'n' roll screamer in a group with a slightly funny name is on TV saying it and that's 22 year-old John Lennon who, at the same time, is enhancing his individual image and confirming his status as the main man in the Beatles as they each emerge as individuals from the shadowy covering offered as being part of a group. Or, as we put it at the time, Lennon's the leader 'cos he's the mouthy one. Yeah, he's the gobby one.
Lots of love to all the First Generation of Beatles' fans. We were very lucky in oh so many ways, although we might be paying a price for it now!
To all other Generations of Beatles' fans, keep the flame burning and enjoy the music!
Thanks for this insight.
Sadly, I was born after the Beatles split so learnt a lot about their lives and the context to their music 2nd hand (first via books, then radio programs and the Anthology series). But the flame is still alive!
I guess I've always been interested in who the original influences were for any band but it can be hard to explain to people even my own age, let alone younger just how revolutionary these guys were for their time as the advances they made are so commonplace now. But we have the internet now so that helps a lot and more films have been made like GetBack and the one on the touring years. It's pretty amazing to go back in time like this and hear what rubbish was being served up as pop music in 63.
Well put. I remember them playing Leroy Van Dyke's , "Walk on by ( Wait on the corner), and one panelist's reply on JBJ from this period . Best wishes .
I can't even tell you how much I love comments like yours. As a 48-year-old non-native English speaker man who has been a Beatles fan since I was a little boy, I am so appreciative of down-to-earth comments when people speak from their soul and life experience. Your words are like an open window to a time and a world where I didn't live, but which I learned to love through The Beatles songs and thoughts like yours. All of this is pure gold to me.
Well said!
John's on record quite a few times as saying that Elvis died when he went into the army, is that how you felt about it as well?
It’s nice to hear Lennon the songwriter talking about this stuff: “I hate songs with ‘walk’ and ‘talk’”, etc. None of these songs were interesting enough for him. He was already concerned with pushing boundaries. Super cool.
I wanna hold your hand😁
Not hard to imagine any of these songs being on an edition of Juke Box Jury in 1960. But *very* difficult to imagine any such numbers presented in 1966!
The seismic shift in Western pop music in those 3 years is thanks in no small part to John Lennon & bandmates pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable.
Elvis in the 60s expanded his repertoire to include neapolitan(Now or Never, Surrender), country, r n b etc.,. He thought some of his 50's songs were bubblegum. John Lennon may have only wanted Elvis to sing only one style, but when an interviewer asked him why he didn't sing songs like the early Beatle songs, Lennon replied, " I grew up, why don't you?" A bit of hypocrisy on his part. Elvis' 70s material is very consistent and my favorite to listen to. Its still interesting to hear Lennon's critiques.
Which Elvis does (Just Like) Starting Over sound like?
I still feel John. Those Sun records are untouchable. The goods that make Elvis the Messiah of rock and roll
I would actually like to watch a show where John Lennon just tears apart bad music for an hour. I think I could really learn from that.
John was just being 100% honest in his personal opinion. Reminded me so much of Johnny Rotten when he appeared on same show 15 years later. Both times, it was expected guests would be all diplomatic and pull their punches - but not these two ! (By the way, John loved Elvis, he just yearned for the purity of the earlier Rock n Roll classic songs and was desperate for Elvis to get back to Rock roots - ironically, that was the same thing the Sex Pistols were striving to achieve when they came along in the mid 70s!)
Same thing with the Beatles, them and the Pistols both of em made no nonsense rock and roll
Both Johns had Irish temper
John was absolutely correct with each of those horrible records, he was brave being honest at a time when quiet acquiesce was the polite formality
Totally agree, What an awful bunch of records.
Yes, he was right about the Elvis song wasn't he? Just that it was a gold record for him. What a knobend Lennon was💤
@@frankhyland6333 he was right that it was crap and not the Elvis of the fifties
@@BobK5 Strange then that over a million people thought differently. Lennon was a turd at times.
@@frankhyland6333 Many millions of people have been known to think and do silly things before, and since..
He had moved so far forward in pop music these must have sounded like recordings out of the 40's to him.
It was the middle of ** 1963 ** … At that stage they had barely moved forward at all
Cause those Penny Lane, When I'm 64 and Octopuses Garden were so fantastic!..(sarc)..😂🙄
@@richardgrant418at that stage they were getting better and better at writing hits and continuing their sound. Think I heard some Beatles fans tell em by '63 or '64 they sounded "different"
Just great to listen to him. Thank you.
Wow, thank you so much for editing and uploading this! 💐❤️
If John only knew then that the Beatles would actually release a song called "All Together Now." 😅
And that, in their usual fashion, was tongue in cheek.
All Together Now was thought as an irony of those kind of songs
He's pretty arrogant, considering the Beatles released embarassing songs like When Im 64, Penny lane, Octopuses Garden...🙄🤦🤷
Fascinating. Don't hold back ,Johnny!
@@sanctifyme4543all of those 3 songs you mentioned are great
Gawd, the songs they had John listen too…I’m surprised he didn’t just up and walk off
Two years after this television appearance Lennon met Elvis at his home in California and basically expressed to him his dissatisfaction with the direction Elvis's music was taking at the time.
yeah, he didn't exactly amused him by asking him "when are you going to make another rock'n'roll album?"; it basically a way to say "are you done with all this crap music?"
No wonder Elvis wanted to ban the Beatles from America soon after ... legend or not ...
Really cool. You get to see Lennon in his element; saying what he meant.
“I can’t stand these All Together Now records” and then the Beatles release a song called “All Together Now” 4 years later. John’s great. I know Paul write the ‘68 song but it struck me as funny. He has great intuition about music. Funny that I actually had that On Top Of Spaghetti album when I was a kid. To their defense, it was an album of songs meant for little children. They should not have included this song at all for the show.
You do realise that John probably hated Paul's song as well?
@@CB-xr1eg Granny music!!!
Lennon was so on himself..arrogant..I mean it's not like When Im 64 wasn't an embarrassment..🙄😂
And John himself ‘covered’ On Top of Spaghetti for Happy Xmas (War is Over)
John even in 1963 was in a different league from everyone around him.
Such precise and concise tastes. Makes you think that it had to a lot with the art he produced. You know, what not to do. And he still had not produce the bulk of his catalogue.
Despite what Lennon said about Devil In Disguise it was #1 in the UK, and is one of his 21 UK #1’s….
Is that supposed to make a point? In a country, where Mr Blobby and Bob the builder can get to number one!
@@beatlebrian4404 The point is Devil in Disguise is good
@@georgea.567 only to Elvis fans! And let's not forget Elvis fans even made the same 3, of his records number 1 for the second time (says it all doesn't it!)
@@beatlebrian4404 No, not just to Elvis fans. I much prefer the Beatles but I'm really bored with the bog-standard opinion which has been the dominant narrative since Lennon was complaining about Elvis in this 1963 interview - that Elvis turned to rubbish as soon as he got out of the army. Sure, there were loads of utterly useless movie songs but his studio recordings from 1960 - 64 are easily as good as anything he did before the army. Not as groundbreaking or revolutionary of course but then HE'D been the prime mover in inventing the template that ALL pop music drew from for the next two decades.
Here are some post-army examples of Elvis brilliance which may change your mind...
From 1960: It Feels So Right / A Mess of Blues / Like a Baby / Dirty Dirty Feeling
From 1961: I Feel So Bad / Surrender / Put the Blame on Me / (Marie's the Name of) His Latest Flame / Little Sister
From 1962: Gonna Get Back Home Somehow / Night Rider / Suspicion / That's Someone You Never Forget
From 1963/64: It's a Long Lonely Highway / Memphis Tennessee
Also, while Devil in Disguise is no Jailhouse Rock, I personally think it's good solid pop with a first rate vocal. Sure, the "walk, talk" rhyme cliché is there but before their 'Rubber Soul' LP in 1965, the Beatles were mainly using equally standard clichéd pop lyrics too.
@@beatlebrian4404 I am not a huge Elvis fan. Devil in Disguise is just a good song.
very young man and he was all ready assure of himself and his taste in music, John always new his own mind .
Lennon was brutal on this show. Gosh what he said about them, even Elvis's Devil in Disguise. And what he said about the lyrics of that song, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Yeah. My Dad was 12 years old back in 1964, when I Want to Hold Your Hand hit #1 in America. As he tells me, when he first heard I Want to Hold Your Hand, he thought, "What stupid lyrics". My Dad thought the lyrics were childish, and he was only 12. He didn't care for the Beatles until they released the album Rubber Soul. As for me, I love the Beatles, but the lyrics to many of their early songs are simplisitc, with many songs containing the pronouns I, Me, and You in the title. However, the Beatles' personalities, musicianship, and enthusiasm made up for it.
Especially when he criticised songs entitled, 'All Together Now' (ha ha).
Lennon had the balls to say it to Elvis himself later on..
@@thehighllama8101 You're right about the simple lyrics. But one step at a time! In the early 60's most bands didn't even write their own songs, let alone have much control over which songs were released. It was all up to the record companies. If they'd written anything too complex early on, it wouldn't have been released.
In those days almost everyone was writing simple lyrics. The Beatles wrote 'From me to you', 'She loves you' etc to speak directly to the fans. Which obviously worked pretty well for them. At first John didn't care too much about the lyrics, just "the sound of the thing". That's what they first set out to change. Then, once they'd proven they could generate hits, they started to look at what else they could do, and delve into more complex subjects.
Of course, someone who *was* writing interesting lyrics in 63 - 64 was Bob Dylan. John was very much inspired by him. But likewise, when Dylan first heard 'I wanna hold your hand' on a radio he was so stunned by the sound of it, he pulled over to the side of the road. Thankfully for us music fans he and the Beatles both helped each other's creativity.
@@appledoreman That was a Paul song, not John's.
Dear millennials: That’s the way to speak one’s mind. No one is taking this as an “offence”. No one is “disrespecting” anyone. NOTHING wrong with just saying things as you think them. You’re welcome.
It’s society in general man. Not just Millennials.
Okay boomer
I was ten at the time, and we didn't get a tv until a few years later. After that,
Juke Box Jury was my regular dose of pop . "Oil give it foive!" was a catchphrase!
I think you mean "Thank your lucky stars"
@@nanplabwern they do.Janice thingy.
He knew Devil in disguise was a hit The fact that Elvis was still able to get to number 1 during beatlemania riled Lennon very much
He expected Elvis who was nearly 30 to be 19 21 again from the 50s
When 50s rock and roll died out in 1958 it was all lush orchestral pop records with teen pop idols during the early 60s
Elvis was still releasing modern beat records with no orchestral backings and was in competition with the likes of Beatles even then and Lennon just wanted to be no.1 so he would give negative answers on great records and positive answers on less threatening songs
Elvis couldn’t be the 50s rocker in the 60s for the same reason the Beatles couldn’t be pop mop tops in the late 60s
Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck berry, bill Haley, little Richard were typecast all their careers as 50s rock n roll nostalgic acts, Elvis was way too talented and varied in genres to be labelled that way so he was able to grow and progress
Elvis didn’t do 50s rock anymore because it wasn’t the 50s anymore
Not talented enough to write his own songs, like Little Richard and the others mentioned did
After listening to those records, The Beatles had to happen, like punk had to happen in the 70's.
The Roy Keane of his day
Elvis, and "Devil In Disguise" has stood the test of time, despite what Lennon thought.
Time can be kind that way - once we hear it as 'an old song' we can just enjoy what we're hearing on its own terms. But in 1963...it was just an old sounding, fairly bland little number (probably better than many other Elvis duds in the 1960s) - a new release that sounded like something from 15 years earlier. The 1960s didn't do 'classic pop/rock' like we do now (e.g. in 1961 there was a hit record about 'those oldies but goldies' - referring to very old hit songs....from the previous summer! The pace was different then.... :)
BTW, Elvis had a loyal fanbase in 1963 (they bought this (they bought just about anything); but they also went to all his lousy films as well) but they lived in pop culture bubble completely out of touch with the zeitgeist of the time (as everyone knows Elvis didn't remotely get his act together until 1968....briefly).
I never knew any audio recordings existed of the show. The reaction Lennon got at the time was crap, all his points are good and hold up especially the ones about Elvis. Hopefully someone goes attic diving and finds a full video tape if the show.
Don't get me wrong: EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION!
There are 15 DISLIKES in this video and surely they are directed to John's opinion on Elvis' song, for sure not about the video editing (I did my best to denoise the original audio). I just wanna say that if you dislike this video very possibly RUclips won't suggest you other videos from this channel. I'm just saying this because you may miss out on the future uploads ... not because the dislikes could impact this channel growth.
That's all. Have a good day.
Many people were disappointed in the way Elvis was steered in the 1960s, including Elvis.
I can't imagine wanting to listen to a song called "our first quarrel"
How interesting
“All Together Now”
“Coach trip”
“Don’t EVER let Me Down”
By 1969,
he had involved himself
in all of these ideas himself
"Oh, I can't stand these 'All Together Now' records..."
Sail the ship, chop the tree, skip the rope, look at me...
Funny, the one song was "Don't EVER let me down" although I doubt it had any influence on John then, or later when he wrote "Don't let me down"
Unbelievably dire collection of discs on that particular show… ‘Devil in Disguise’ was the only one that had any spark of life at all!
Katy Boyle.. Ive never seen or heard of her being called Catherine before
What would John have said about Revolution #9 or Honey Pie?
Could the cover of On Top Of Spaghetto have loosely inspired Yellow Submarine.
🎵We all live on spaghetti bolognese, spaghetti bolognese, spaghetti bolognese.🎵
Does anyone have any film of this episode?
I doubt. VHS recorders weren't invented yet.
@@SeltaebEht I know. Some TV shows in the late 40s through the 60s were preserved on kinescope
Love this John being honest with current pop music he was right about it (except Elvis ) even though I know he loved rock and roll. I’m so glad The Beatles soon changed the whole entire scene of music along with (beach boys, the Stones, and The Who) I wonder what he would think of music nowadays.
I feel exactly the same about the Beatles ever Since sgt pepper's as John feels about Elvis here, i keep playing their pre pepper records
Devil In Disguise was a quality Elvis song. The king certainly didn’t sound like Bing Crosby on that record.
All Together Now foreshadowing?
I found myself agreeing with John throughout
God those tunes were poor, I’m with John.
And ‘Devil In Disguise’ went straight into No1. Don’t think John told Presley he didn’t like him when they met in August 1965
He did better: he asked when he was going to release a "good record" .... but he just paraphrased as "when are you going to play like in the ol' days?"
@@SeltaebEht Presley released ‘Little Sister’ and ‘Feel So Bad’ in ‘61. His next ‘like the old days’ was ‘Memphis, Tennessee in ‘64
@@neillanc65 Memphis Tennessee by Elvis, 1965.
Who else was on the panel ? I recognised Katie Boyle
Alongside Lennon on the panel were television personality Katie Boyle, actor Bruce Prochnik and actress Caroline Maudling.
Bruce Prochnik was a kid back then ... I hope "on top of spaghetti" wasn't supposed to please him!
It's ironic that John Lennon should speak belittlingly about an 'All Together Now' record and a song sounding like 'a coach trip...' both were roads, if you'll pardon the pun, that The Beatles travelled down in 1967...x
Are you sure this wasn't recorded in 1863? Instead of 1963.
Sounds like 1363 to me.
@@blackmore4 Yes! I agree with that. They should be ashamed for posting it.
Well, it definitely does sound like a wire recording to me.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles and his solo music, however, he was highly critical of everyone else, but, himself
I thought he was quite rude about the Click song, insulting the singer's language :(
That's a very British thing: have you ever noticed how disrespectful people is in regard to Italian language? They literally "ueh!" them every time they hear their accent. A few friend of mine did that when I was around. It was so embarrassing. I had to apology on their behalf. What was puzzling is how they couldn't understand the rudeness of their action.
He was a very rude guy.
@@sanctifyme4543I don’t think so
I can't believe he didn't like the spaghetti song!
What's yer news, Mary Jane?
Too innocent for him...
I always wondered how John would have felt about the recent Elvis movie and Austin Butler's portrayal had he still been alive. He would have liked the film and, in his later years, would have developed a more sympathetic view of Elvis' life and would have seen who really controlled Elvis. We, especially John, were unaware of the extent of Col. Parker's control at the time. Parker put Elvis in formulaic movies and sang silly songs to make more money. Elvis did make a comeback in the late 60s, and the Comeback Special showed him regaining his fire. Parker could have parlayed Elvis' Comeback Special with mature film roles and working with other artists. Still, unfortunately, Vegas called, and once again, Parker denied Elvis the chance to work with other artists such as Led Zeppelin and David Bowie (Bowie wrote Golden Years for Elvis but was turned down. Bowie recorded the song and had a hit with it) who would have given Elvis a chance to further stretch his musical boundaries; the same for movie roles and touring Europe and Asia. Parker had Elvis touring almost non-stop, unable to take a long stretch of absence from performing, and Elvis was into heavier drug use by the time he died. And that was because Parker had gambling debts and owed money to unsavory people who would have threatened Elvis and his family. It was one of the reasons why he had security around him and Lisa Marie since he received kidnapping threats.
John was unaware that their manager Brian Epstein would die within four years. Besides ceasing touring, it would be one of the main causes that would spell the end for the band as they were struggling to find a manager to guide them and thought they found it with Allen Klein. Still, Klein would further splinter the band with his decision to sell the Beatles catalog and alienate Paul, as he warned them about Klein.
Lisa Marie stated that she had no animosity towards Parker as Elvis didn't either, and he was invited to the funeral. The movie had artistic license , and made Parker into more of a villain than he actually was. Did he exercise control? Yes he did But not to that extent. BTW, his accent was fabricated. Parker in real life talked with a southern drawl
Jim and Bobby and Alfred. Anyone get this besides me?
This is a filmed tv program, not a radio broadcast. The BBC erased the tapes to save money, all that survived is the audio portion. They didn't think it was important enough to preserve....
On Top Of Spaghetti sounded like Happy Xmas (war is over) 😂😂
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he was right of course... they were all horrible... funny comments about a "coach trip" (Magical Mystery Tour).... and "all together now" records (Yellow Submarine, All Together Now)
I think Paul would have been a lot nicer and tried to be polite but John would just go for the jugular. I think that's why John would be the best on this type of show. You don't want nice on this type of show.
John Lennon - who ...? Katie Boyle: yeeaahh!
Apart from The Beatles, what did he like?
No cheese for our John.
Well, have to say I agree with him.
One of Presley's celebrated early 60's singles that still sounds great today, unlike many of the early Beatles hits, [e.g. I Want to Hold Your Hand, She Loves You etc.], which sound dated in comparison.
Yet he didn’t write it like he wrote none of the hits in his lifetime, Elvis was the first big music star but they were disappointed he became a movie start and the song doesn’t sound much different from anything he wasn’t doing before the 1960s and 70s were brutal on some of most acclaimed albums and bands of all time by most publishers don’t think he’s out of his mind to not love it, if you think she loves you sounds dated compared to this Elvis song 9 years into his career when they were only a few months into theirs album wise it’s kinda telling tbh not saying he’s bad but they did have a lot more talent and he knew it so did Sinatra, when I look at the biggest hits of each month or the 60s the second the Beatles show up on the charts each song is just way way different to what was heard before and what was being played at the time, a song like rag doll compared to a hard days night is like night and day a good percent of the Beatles catalog doesn’t sound like it’s from the 60s some sounds extremely modern if the panning was fixed their first two albums are the most dated because they were made to appease a audience of teens but they quickly moved into better stuff in a year, Paul wrote songs like I’ll follow the sun when he was like 15 compared to love me do which he also wrote at that time that sounds outdated but doesn’t mean it’s bad just like John didn’t outright say it’s horrible just doesn’t like the softness of it
@@SacredxCreature
They had "a lot more talent"? In the real world they didn't.
As songwriters, of course they did, but Presley never professed to be a writer, even though he does have some genuine songwriting credits [some actually uncredited].
As a vocalist, he was on another level altogether to any of the Beatles, and was also far more versatile in his repertoire.
He was also a supreme and magnetic stage performer which none of the Beatles could hope to match.
As an actor, he worked with some of the great film directors [Michael Curtiz, George Sidney etc.], and was the SOLE star of at least two genuine movie classics in Jailhouse Rock and Viva Las Vegas.
None of the Beatles were capable of carrying and starring in an iconic film as individuals.
Presley was also the only entertainer with the worldwide gravitas to headline the first SOLO live satellite show beamed around the world.
Again, none of the Beatles [as individuals] had the global appeal to star in anything of a similar nature.
These are just some of the reasons why he was/is known as The KIng.
And the Beatles knew it, despite their attempts to undermine everything he did post-army.
Opinions are just opinions - they can't be right or wrong.....but in this case John is correct; he passed the test. He also was being polite. LOL 👀
He was rude and arrogant...Penny Lane ?..what a joke.🙄
Yeah right but if Yoko was on there, her wailing would be on the charts for 20 weeks
Can't disagree with John here. I bet he was hoping for a decent song so that he didn't sound completely negative about everything put before him, but they were all awful. Elvis was the best of the bunch, but it was very easy listening Elvis, wasn't it? Nothing new there. Not the spirit of Elvis that John had loved. John always spoke his mind, and if that's what he was feeling about them then they're the replies he gave. What more could he do?
Sorry, I can't respect anyone who would release bilge like Penny Lane, when Im 64, Octopuses Garden, Rocky Racoon...etc..just boring garbage..🤦🙄🥱😂🤷
Regarding his criticism of "Devli In Diguise", Lennon could be quite inconsistent. He says he doesn't like songs with 'walk' and 'talk' in, but he approved of Larry Williams' "Slow Down" which has "C'mon pretty baby won't you walk with me, C'mon pretty baby won't you talk with me". Oh, and the Beatles cover of this sounds pretty lame compared to the original!
The cover is better
Simon Cowell must have seen this when he was a kid
It's a great pity people like Simon Cowell don't promote the many bands that are around today who actually play and write their own music.
@@home2624yep Beatles were a manufactured psyop.
Some ironies here: Lennon berates the coach trip which becomes the idea for ‘The Magical Mystery Tour’ and can’t think of anything to say about ‘Don’t Ever Let Me Down’ but later goes on to pen ‘Don’t Let Me Down’. As for girl singers, well where does that leave Yoko?
She belongs in a separate category.
@@Fool3SufferingFools Haha, yes, from this cosmos.
John definitely could be contradictory at times.
Depends if you’re sleeping with the girl singer
In fairness, Magical Mystery Tour was all Paul's idea. After Brian Epstein died, they suddenly had to be their own managers. As John admitted, they had no idea on how to do any of that. Paul was like "Right now lads, we'll do a bus trip and make a TV show". First flop they had.
My mom would have agreed with John...She was a big fan of his rockabilly music but lost interest with his slick music of the 60's
Guess he would have changed a few years later, when bands came along, who blew the beatles away...
Any clues as to who these bands might have been...??
David Jacobs was so urbane , charming , sophisticated . I hate him!
It's just a bit of fun, get over it Millennials.
I didn't and don't agree with him about the Tymes "So Much In Love". Okay, it was a soft romantic ballad (mostly sung acapella), so not rocker Lennon's cup of tea (although he did sing and record songs like "Begin the Beguine" and "Besame Mucho"...), but it was a nicely arranged, distinctive song with a distinctive sound, which is why it reached number one in the US Billboard chart in August 1963.
Didn't know The Tymes were around back then. They had hits in the mid 70's with You Little Trustmaker and Ms Grace (which reached No1 in the UK).
Poor 'ole Elvis... I agree John, Parker ruined him.
he must have got out of bed the wrong side as we say up here, i thought the tymes, paul and paula and the julie grant songs were ok,
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Somebody needs to do some AI processing to clean this up
He didn't like "All together now"? Lol😂
Overall, a fairly ghastly lot of songs for anyone to play judge and jury on. The only standout being the Elvis song. However, John is right in that Elvis had once been a Rock 'n' Roll rebel, playing what his audience wanted to hear, and now he was playing what his label wanted him to play. Please don't misunderstand, Devil In Disguise is still a strong single for what it was, but what it wasn't was Rock 'n' Roll. Elvis had acquiesced into performing what RCA expected of him, which is why his popularity dipped during the period from 1963 through his comeback in 1968. He still sold a lot of records but he discovered he could walk the streets without always being recognised. Elvis fans bought his records regardless of quality but the majority of the record buying public did not. This is borne out to be true by the fact that he didn't manage a Top 10 single for most of this five year period. Despite his fanbase, even his comeback was a shadow of his former self, the hungry self-effacing star who played what made him a household name. Indeed, after 1961's incredible double sided single of Little Sister/His Latest Flame, Elvis never really ever played Rock 'n' Roll again. That was John Lennon's point.
Poor sod having to listen to all that tepidness! I think he was very kind and polite.
Love the Beatles, but John Lennon critics of all the other artists, i don" t like at all.
His critic even has no real content.
I like both John and Paull less and less as the years go by.
John Lennon, violent evisceration of post 1958 Elvis Presley music/act/ films, was all too apparent here. Said he now sounded (1965 ) like Bing Crosby! WFT! 😮looooooool 😂😅😂
It's great. Sort of a Simon Cowell before Simon.
A pretty poor bunch of records so no wonder he didnt like them. And he was spot on reference Elvis.
Interesting how the Stones had the bad boy reputation on this show but John was pretty scathing and rightfully so.
Just play some rock,n,roll u know just do it, u know ,Yap Yap, ok. Oh Yoko your've burnt the rice again. Hey John Doooo, Peace and love, Hari Hari.
Lay off the drugs.
Pop music was still dominated by tin pan alley type stuff with strings in 1963. Motown hadn't nailed their sound until Martha and the Vandellas in January 1963, Heatwave wasn't released until a month after this show. So while I'm not the biggest fan of Lennon or the Beatles, John was correct, the songs were generic and out of date. Ironically, it was a house producer who articulated tin pan alley backing tropes who gave the Beatles their sound a little later.
You have forgotten that change WAS in the air in 1963, not just Motown, but a young man from Hibbing, MN came to NYC and ended up reviving the folk genre (Bob Dylan) and later fusing folk with rock; three brothers named Wilson (Brian, Dennis, and Carl), along with a couple of friends and their cousin were making waves as the Beach Boys, and helped launch the SoCal sound which eventually evolved into the LA Laurel Canyon sound; AND a young producer named Phil Spector created the Wall of Sound and gave the Ronettes, Darlene Love and the Crystals hits with his pioneering production techniques that would later be used on Beach Boys and Beatles records.
@@tammylewis2408 I hadn't forgotten Dylan, Beach Boys or Spector, I was pointing out that until this point pop was dominated by Elvis, Elvis impersonators, bumble gum romance and comedy songs, mostly with orchestral backing. Doo-Wop had some traction but was an older form going back to the 1940s. Most of the newcomers went on to rearticulate orchestral instrumentation in their own sound.
Lennon correct except about Devil in Disguise. Scorpio Rising!
Give John half a chance and he'd tell you most of the Beatles songs were a load of crap.
He did. Read the Rolling Stone interview from 1970.
I did. If that were the only time it would be excusable. Nasty.
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Lennon was brutal and right. They were garbage and I completely agree with him. The difference is he could say why they were bad. I thought "Devil in Disguise" was the best of the lot but not par for Elvis. I agree the Sun era was fantastic.
1956/57 - Sun and RCA are all great. Still producing good material in 1958 (but the rot is already setting in). EP never lost the ability to produce great work. But he didn't seem to have any quality control (or discretion in song choices) at all.
Poor John. What pain must a person experience to publicly turn on the idols of his adolescence in front of strangers? He probably went home and cried (and thanked God, that there is zero chance that Elvis Presley would ever even hear about such a rinky dink BBC production). Much latter, he wrote ''I don't believe in Elvis'' as part of a long litany of people/ constructs he no longer believed in (the composition ''God''). The song was about pain and what it measures. He was just measuring his own pain, like a hurt child yelling at its mother, ''I don't love you''. The child is hurting himself in reaction to his pain. Side note: Your're The Devil in Disguise hit #3 on the charts and instantly went Gold. Elvis never even sang the song again. Elvis didn't need to try that hard over minor material. When he did ''sweat it'', the the results were historical. Everybody (who was a child of the Age of Rock), knows the list.
Elvis did need to try and the litany of terrible records he put out after his first couple of years fame only emphasises his poor sense of choice.
@@billythedog-309 Says ''nobody the dog''. Go whine to your mother.
He was right about Elvis. He became easy listening in the 60’s.
@@jasongress8764 You have NEVER rocked harder in your entire life than he did on (among a dozen examples) , the last single of his life, 1977's ''Way Down''. Go ask your wife. She'll put on a copy of '73's ''Burning Love'' and laugh you to scorn, little guy!
@@billythedog-309 That was not all him. Col. Parker put Elvis in those films and made him sing those songs to make a buck. Parke was more of a huckster than a manager.
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The selection of records for John to peruse is abysmal ... not a single record there from his (Beatles) contempraries.
Lennon was the Simon Cowell of the day. Generally not impressed. Elvis had gone on to movie music. John was ruthless but right.
Don't even compare John to that, money chasing idiot!
Lennon can back it up by writing great songs; Cowell is an idiot.
This was recorded in 1663.
Long before those 'all sing together songs'.
Like 'all together now, Love, love, love' by the Beatles and the John Lennon who came much later.
Also that flamenco :ideom song 'oh bloody bloody da'
Now we know what school he went to. The posh boys grammar school with Paul.
Also the Sexy Bristol's, one went to St Clement Danes in DuCane Road Hammersmith.
Who, what, where... how?! ;)
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@@normanpearson8753 No it was 1663 broadcast on MTV (Medieval Television)
@@CB-xr1eg🤣 fucking funny was that!
How ironic that he stole ON TOP OF OLD SMOKEY for HAPPY CHRISTMAS WAR IS OVER .
what??
He also released dribble..Penny Lane??..🤮..Maxwells silver hammer?.. Octopuses freakin Garden..🤦🙄..the list goes on Rocky bloody Racoon!😳.... embarrassing!😂🥱
@@sanctifyme4543 I don't think an Elvis fan should go anywhere near raising the issue of embarassing songs given up to 80% of his output was crap. Odd that none of the songs you mention are Johns....
Wow no motown or any good r and n music. No wonder why those the tymes and elvis were the only good ones.and he didn't like them
I really liked Elis songs after he returned from the army. Except some of the corny stuff in those movies. After '65 or so, his style changed to more serious themes, and I lost interest.