True, longevity does play a huge role which is why new jeans being at 19 is so surprising, who knows if ditto will even be remembered after a few years let alone be in top 20
weird to rank TT and not Cheer Up, given that Cheer Up was jokingly the 'korean national anthem' lol and every Korean knows Cheer Up by heart to this day.
I appreciate that they put many artists on the list but some not to say many of their choices were more than questionable as I consider some rankings like 'D4' ; 'God's Menu' and 'DITTO' to be so wrong cause it's not even the groups best songs. I think those songs shouldn't ranked as high as they are and shouldn't even be in the ranking. I believe they are here only because of commercial success and that's it. Sad. Anyway nice video plus I felt understood since I agree on several of your opinions ;) Thank you for the video ok bye
ditto is a cultural reset in korea,its impact is crazy,i understand if some people think its just a plain normal song,but we really cant deny its success
@@broskiyt12 It's not even original from New Jeans. Plus the more recent version of the song is not that much different from the old version. Unlike 'Candy' from NCT DREAM ; 'Dreams comes true' from AESPA and 'Be Natural' from Red Velvet for example. Ditto is not revolutionally at all. This is a song which represent well New Jeans 'young, fresh and mild/sweet/slow-down' concept. But nothing more than that, I prefer OMG. Anyway, the more time passes the more we are being very aware of MHJ taking 'big inspo' not to say plagarizing old western groups...
Plus success doesn't always means it's the best or it's better than if you know what I mean, no hate to the New Jeans girls tho. I Am happy they are doing good despite all the scandals they being facing and are still facing bcz of MHJ and HYBE.
6:26 I think growl is there because of how successful it was when it came out in Korea specifically, exo have plenty of good title track late in their career as well, I heard no similar remarks on the quality of other groups discographies, but sure
It definitely feels like a weird list, like: Brown Eyed Girls have better songs than Abracadabra, like 'Sixth Sense' & 2NE1 has better songs than 'I am the best' like 'Missing You' and 'I love you'. Bigbang being so low? Where's G(Idle)?? And Wonder Girls 'Tell Me' is iconic but it's honestly not better than 4 Walls. It's definitely not a popularity contest, - the list is just weird.
I mean to be fair, 100 people will have 100 different lists of the "best" Kpop songs, and though this probably would have been more aptly named "100 Most Iconic Kpop Songs" or "100 Most Influential Kpop Songs", I agree that recency bias should have blocked songs from at least the previous 1-5 years from entry. You should have a little more lasting influence before you stand next to the likes of Gee and Haru Haru and No. 1...
Mate I came here after watching your hit piece on antichoruses. This confirms it for me your indeed what you claimed to be an old pair of ears unable to appreciate new sounds new music. Saying Antifragile shouldnt be on the list coz it’s less than a year old goes to show your way of thinking. Greatest 100 of all time not greatest dinosaurs of all time. Cant even imagine what you would say about ditto since you grumpy old man.
Ditto has single handedly changed the kpop girl crush scene for generations to come with their reinvention of y2k rnb music stylings for the modern fruityloops ear. From a group that has the potential to replace and succeed blackpink from a commercial success standpoint for the rest of this decade. Ofcourse you would fail to appreciate any of that with your bias against all contemporary kpop. This is why your videos only register 1000 views 😂
Oh and I hadn’t even noticed the nwjns diss coverimage until finished watching the video. At least you show an appreciation of what drives views and commercial success to your paltry 10k channel. Unpopular opinion can be warranted - i myself thought their how sweet comeback didnt live up to expectations(they set the bar too high is one reason). But unpopular and outrageous opinions are sacrilege. Radiohead”s OK computer won multiple awards and people like you back then must have been comparing it against the big chanting choruses of the Oasis/Blur brit invasion and finding it melodically deficient and poor taste 😂
Lol ignore this hater. This person must be young or just stupid. There's a difference between all time best, and current best. Time is the biggest test for longevity, so how can you assess a song for longevity of it was released yesterday. Some people are so blind. Sorry, some people actually know what they are talking about. If you don't know most of this list then you opinions are invalid, you're not educated enough to comment.
True, longevity does play a huge role which is why new jeans being at 19 is so surprising, who knows if ditto will even be remembered after a few years let alone be in top 20
Rolling Stone lists, in general, are questionable on validity...
BTS Spring Day is No 4 to those who may be wondering
Ok because I was about to go off
weird to rank TT and not Cheer Up, given that Cheer Up was jokingly the 'korean national anthem' lol and every Korean knows Cheer Up by heart to this day.
It's just a popularity ranking. These probably do not actually listen to kpop.
How in the hell is Ditto above I Need U and Decalcomania?
I appreciate that they put many artists on the list but some not to say many of their choices were more than questionable as I consider some rankings like 'D4' ; 'God's Menu' and 'DITTO' to be so wrong cause it's not even the groups best songs. I think those songs shouldn't ranked as high as they are and shouldn't even be in the ranking. I believe they are here only because of commercial success and that's it. Sad. Anyway nice video plus I felt understood since I agree on several of your opinions ;) Thank you for the video ok bye
ditto is a cultural reset in korea,its impact is crazy,i understand if some people think its just a plain normal song,but we really cant deny its success
@@broskiyt12 It's not even original from New Jeans. Plus the more recent version of the song is not that much different from the old version. Unlike 'Candy' from NCT DREAM ; 'Dreams comes true' from AESPA and 'Be Natural' from Red Velvet for example. Ditto is not revolutionally at all. This is a song which represent well New Jeans 'young, fresh and mild/sweet/slow-down' concept. But nothing more than that, I prefer OMG. Anyway, the more time passes the more we are being very aware of MHJ taking 'big inspo' not to say plagarizing old western groups...
Plus success doesn't always means it's the best or it's better than if you know what I mean, no hate to the New Jeans girls tho. I Am happy they are doing good despite all the scandals they being facing and are still facing bcz of MHJ and HYBE.
Psy? Even IU 😞
Ditto and TT over Into the new world? That is madness... Dududu? That list is completed biased
6:26 I think growl is there because of how successful it was when it came out in Korea specifically, exo have plenty of good title track late in their career as well, I heard no similar remarks on the quality of other groups discographies, but sure
I enjoy your videos and analysis. You deserve more viewers.
It definitely feels like a weird list, like: Brown Eyed Girls have better songs than Abracadabra, like 'Sixth Sense' & 2NE1 has better songs than 'I am the best' like 'Missing You' and 'I love you'. Bigbang being so low? Where's G(Idle)??
And Wonder Girls 'Tell Me' is iconic but it's honestly not better than 4 Walls.
It's definitely not a popularity contest, - the list is just weird.
I mean to be fair, 100 people will have 100 different lists of the "best" Kpop songs, and though this probably would have been more aptly named "100 Most Iconic Kpop Songs" or "100 Most Influential Kpop Songs", I agree that recency bias should have blocked songs from at least the previous 1-5 years from entry. You should have a little more lasting influence before you stand next to the likes of Gee and Haru Haru and No. 1...
This list is so ridiculous. I swear most of the 4th gen songs don't deserve to be here.
Fr forever one is an unforgettable song 😊
Bro ditto ahead of i need you
Mate I came here after watching your hit piece on antichoruses. This confirms it for me your indeed what you claimed to be an old pair of ears unable to appreciate new sounds new music. Saying Antifragile shouldnt be on the list coz it’s less than a year old goes to show your way of thinking. Greatest 100 of all time not greatest dinosaurs of all time. Cant even imagine what you would say about ditto since you grumpy old man.
Ditto has single handedly changed the kpop girl crush scene for generations to come with their reinvention of y2k rnb music stylings for the modern fruityloops ear. From a group that has the potential to replace and succeed blackpink from a commercial success standpoint for the rest of this decade. Ofcourse you would fail to appreciate any of that with your bias against all contemporary kpop. This is why your videos only register 1000 views 😂
Oh and I hadn’t even noticed the nwjns diss coverimage until finished watching the video. At least you show an appreciation of what drives views and commercial success to your paltry 10k channel. Unpopular opinion can be warranted - i myself thought their how sweet comeback didnt live up to expectations(they set the bar too high is one reason). But unpopular and outrageous opinions are sacrilege. Radiohead”s OK computer won multiple awards and people like you back then must have been comparing it against the big chanting choruses of the Oasis/Blur brit invasion and finding it melodically deficient and poor taste 😂
Lol ignore this hater. This person must be young or just stupid. There's a difference between all time best, and current best. Time is the biggest test for longevity, so how can you assess a song for longevity of it was released yesterday. Some people are so blind. Sorry, some people actually know what they are talking about. If you don't know most of this list then you opinions are invalid, you're not educated enough to comment.
@@brothermalcolm”reinvention of y2k rnb music stylings” yeah that’s how ik i can’t take you seriously 😭
?? Antifragile is not in the 100 greatest songs of all time. No Le Sserafim song is.