Last night I ran out an 8-ball game without giving my opponent a chance to shoot for the first time ever. The 8-ball shot was a really tricky long bank and it just barely managed to go in. I credit much of my recent skill increase to your fantastic videos. Thanks for the uploads Dr. Dave, I love your channel!
That must have been a great feeling. Man i get such a rush when im able to pocket even just 4 balls back to back. But to run a whole table like the pros now that has to be great 👍 👍 one day i will experience that haha (i hope) got to practice more
I still remember my first break-and-runs, keep at it and in a year or two there will be so many you will only be remembering the times you string 2 or 3 together :)
@@michaeltrumph121 i only realised within the last year how much i love billiards so less than a year id say. Meaning that's how long ive been taking the game seriously and pushing myself to get better. Good lord i don't know why but pool is so freaking fun to me
I'm a 22 year old from the Philippines and i really appreciate and love the way you teach, although there are many great players here to learn from but no one compares to you when it comes to teaching, and i learn mostly everything from you, wishing you good health Doc 😊
Great video! I teach these to my students and in my clinics, you have to know multiple ways to defend or be aggressive depending on opponent, game score, position of the balls, etc. Practice is key. I particularly love #10, I first saw Shane shoot that about 10 years ago and added it to my repertoire immediately. Thanks again as always for the informative and practical video!
@@DrDaveBilliards Wasn't aware of that, never had the pleasure of seeing him execute that shot. Learned a lot watching him over the years, amazing player.
@@tesha199 It can also go very right. I've seen many top players execute it perfectly, and I've had more success than failures with it myself. As with anything have to practice and get comfortable with the hit and speed and more importantly know when that's the best option, it's not always...
@@tesha199 I totally agree about percentages. But as Dr. Dave said, this can be a bad spot to be in based on the orientation of the CB and OB, proximity to the rail, etc. Knowing and practicing the options is important, and this is a valid option. Not sure of your skill level, but for me, if I hit this 10 times I would expect a decent outcome (make the ball, return safety, or long and difficult cut) 6 out of 10 times. Which is pretty good odds when your opponent puts you in a tough spot. When the balls are in a line and near the middle of the table, this is often a higher percentage shot than trying some of the other options, and has an offensive component built in as well.
I’m a natural and like to play by instinct with trial & error. But this was interesting and helped me better grasp the intricacies of what I attempt to manage on a table. My safety game needs the most work, I’m too aggressive.
Thanks Dr. Dave! You are correct, I can’t count how many times I’ve had to deal with this shot during league play. Very often I will try the bank shot, only to miss and leave my opponent a good shot in the pocket. What’s the best way to avoid leaving them a good shot if I miss the bank shot?
You should practice all of the options to see which might be the most reliable for you. But if you want to go for the bank, and you think you might miss it, you should miss it short (hitting the short rail first) with a speed that will send the OB just above the side pocket. That will leave a tough shot for your opponent.
I will also play that 4-rails. I only play it 1-rail into the side when I have to. I did make two of those last time we played though. That's the most I've made playing that single into the side, any time we've played for a day. Usually only make one. That's a really tough shot into the side, 1 rail.
@@DrDaveBilliards Yeah, it's really not that tough of a shot, once you understand it. We play mostly banks, in a bunch of games that we made up. I was practicing it one day from different angles, when my buddy took a restroom break and I made 10 in a row. He got back to see the third one drop and I told him that was three so I need to see how many I was going to make. My record on that shot at that point ,was 5 in a row. I ended up making 10. When the 7th one went in, he shook his head and said, "I'm not even going to try". LOL. I bet I'll never do that again, but it sure was fun. It still stands as my record for multi-rail banks in a row. I have a bunch where I've made 5, and one 3-rail that I can consistently make 8 on, but have yet to get to 10 on any of them. I think the 2-rail in the side is about the toughest multi rail though, with exception to the 5-rail, it's almost as tough. Thanks for the videos.
Could you please make a video explains reverse bank shot 3 rails or more like when the magician efren Reyes shocked the Germans and what is the right spin to make this happen
@@vinsentchiffer157 You can't do the roll-up one unless there is a gap between the OB and cushion. If the OB is frozen to the cushion, nothing makes contacts with a cushion after the hit. That would be a foul.
@@Whynotbarisaab This type of situation comes up a lot more commonly in 9-ball and 10-ball. That's why I showed it as a 9-ball example. Sorry for the confusion.
Back when I was playing every day and before I took 20 years off from the game I could make this shot around 70 to 80 percent of the time using extreme right hand spin. I'm using a predator cue now with a revo shaft and the deflection is so much less than my old cue that I wouldn't chance it. At least not yet. Another quality video, so glad I found out about you.
None of these shots are easy to play well and consistently. And you are right ... some of them are much tougher than the others. That's why it is important to practice ... so you can learn about this through experience so you will have better judgement when playing.
It will drop if you hit it better ... obviously. I think I hit the cushion a little too close to the ball, and the cushions on this table are soft so they compress more than normal, causing me to overcut the ball a little.
Last night I ran out an 8-ball game without giving my opponent a chance to shoot for the first time ever. The 8-ball shot was a really tricky long bank and it just barely managed to go in. I credit much of my recent skill increase to your fantastic videos. Thanks for the uploads Dr. Dave, I love your channel!
Wokesmeed I’m glad to hear it. Continued good luck with your game.
That must have been a great feeling. Man i get such a rush when im able to pocket even just 4 balls back to back. But to run a whole table like the pros now that has to be great 👍 👍 one day i will experience that haha (i hope) got to practice more
I still remember my first break-and-runs, keep at it and in a year or two there will be so many you will only be remembering the times you string 2 or 3 together :)
@@ReganMcKee wow, how long have u been playing ?
I make at least 5 or 6 run outs every time I play.
@@michaeltrumph121 i only realised within the last year how much i love billiards so less than a year id say. Meaning that's how long ive been taking the game seriously and pushing myself to get better. Good lord i don't know why but pool is so freaking fun to me
I'm a 22 year old from the Philippines and i really appreciate and love the way you teach, although there are many great players here to learn from but no one compares to you when it comes to teaching, and i learn mostly everything from you, wishing you good health Doc 😊
@@user-vx3mf6up2r I’m glad to hear it. Thank you for your kind remarks.
You’re the best in the business at these demonstrations Dave thanks again for your hard work!
Thank you ... and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Excellent video. I know that was a lot of work. I appreciate it as do the thousands of others I'm sure.
Thanks! I like doing videos like this one because they give me lots of good practice with the various shot approaches.
Fantastic video Dave! Thanks for pointing out positives AND the negatives in these long rail safety options
Thanks ... and you're welcome.
Great video! I teach these to my students and in my clinics, you have to know multiple ways to defend or be aggressive depending on opponent, game score, position of the balls, etc. Practice is key. I particularly love #10, I first saw Shane shoot that about 10 years ago and added it to my repertoire immediately.
Thanks again as always for the informative and practical video!
The last shot was a favorite of Buddy Hall also.
@@DrDaveBilliards Wasn't aware of that, never had the pleasure of seeing him execute that shot. Learned a lot watching him over the years, amazing player.
@@tesha199 It can also go very right. I've seen many top players execute it perfectly, and I've had more success than failures with it myself. As with anything have to practice and get comfortable with the hit and speed and more importantly know when that's the best option, it's not always...
@@tesha199 Agreed. Many of the other shots can also go wrong. This situation is just a bad place to be.
@@tesha199 I totally agree about percentages. But as Dr. Dave said, this can be a bad spot to be in based on the orientation of the CB and OB, proximity to the rail, etc. Knowing and practicing the options is important, and this is a valid option.
Not sure of your skill level, but for me, if I hit this 10 times I would expect a decent outcome (make the ball, return safety, or long and difficult cut) 6 out of 10 times. Which is pretty good odds when your opponent puts you in a tough spot. When the balls are in a line and near the middle of the table, this is often a higher percentage shot than trying some of the other options, and has an offensive component built in as well.
I’m a natural and like to play by instinct with trial & error. But this was interesting and helped me better grasp the intricacies of what I attempt to manage on a table. My safety game needs the most work, I’m too aggressive.
What are those dots called that you have placed everywhere on the pool table? I'd love to get some to practice on my table!
Gyanrosling Self-adhesive hole reinforcement labels.
DrDaveBilliards Thanks!
Excellent as usual!!! Thank you!!
Thank you ... and you're welcome!
Thanks Dr. Dave! You are correct, I can’t count how many times I’ve had to deal with this shot during league play. Very often I will try the bank shot, only to miss and leave my opponent a good shot in the pocket. What’s the best way to avoid leaving them a good shot if I miss the bank shot?
You should practice all of the options to see which might be the most reliable for you. But if you want to go for the bank, and you think you might miss it, you should miss it short (hitting the short rail first) with a speed that will send the OB just above the side pocket. That will leave a tough shot for your opponent.
FYI, we demonstrate this and many other two-way strategies like this on VENT and VEEB:
drdavebilliards.com/
This is gold.
Alex B I’m glad you think so. Thanks for the comment.
I will also play that 4-rails. I only play it 1-rail into the side when I have to. I did make two of those last time we played though. That's the most I've made playing that single into the side, any time we've played for a day. Usually only make one. That's a really tough shot into the side, 1 rail.
@@kellyhahn6145 The 4-railed is fun and seems to often work out as well as any of the other approaches.
@@DrDaveBilliards Yeah, it's really not that tough of a shot, once you understand it. We play mostly banks, in a bunch of games that we made up. I was practicing it one day from different angles, when my buddy took a restroom break and I made 10 in a row. He got back to see the third one drop and I told him that was three so I need to see how many I was going to make. My record on that shot at that point ,was 5 in a row. I ended up making 10. When the 7th one went in, he shook his head and said, "I'm not even going to try". LOL. I bet I'll never do that again, but it sure was fun. It still stands as my record for multi-rail banks in a row. I have a bunch where I've made 5, and one 3-rail that I can consistently make 8 on, but have yet to get to 10 on any of them. I think the 2-rail in the side is about the toughest multi rail though, with exception to the 5-rail, it's almost as tough. Thanks for the videos.
@@kellyhahn6145 10 in a row is very impressive!
@@DrDaveBilliards Thanks. I doubt it will happen again, but it sure was something I won't forget.
Great stuff as always DrDave👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks. I aim to swerve. :)
Yet it always returns to the shooting line and you pocket the ball, you devious ba....rd!!😀
Could you please make a video explains reverse bank shot 3 rails or more like when the magician efren Reyes shocked the Germans and what is the right spin to make this happen
See:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bank-kick/twice-across/
What is size of your table?
What is the tp size on this Revo shaft ? 11.8 ?
12.4
Great tips ty!
BillyBob Thank you ... and you’re welcome. Are you the BillyBob that used to post on the BD forum?
@@DrDaveBilliards No I'm not.
@@BillyBob2015 Thank you for letting me know.
If Efren made this video, we would be seeing 10 ways to pocket the last ball.
I could show that too, but it wouldn't be very useful; although, it would be fun.
His no hesitate to pocket those last ball
DrDaveBilliards some stuff you post can be helpful but damn your one hell of a narcissist
What do u mean in 5.that I need to hit the head cushion for a legal shot
If the ball didn't touch any cushion after the first contact with cb, that will count as a foul
@@vinsentchiffer157 as long as any ball touch a cushion right?
@@limhanlong4143 yes, but its incredibly hard to do the roll up one, especially if the ball is not close to the cushion 🤣
@@vinsentchiffer157 You can't do the roll-up one unless there is a gap between the OB and cushion. If the OB is frozen to the cushion, nothing makes contacts with a cushion after the hit. That would be a foul.
I am happy with every shots except the thin shot because you played it from fairly close distance. Play it from mid table is very hard.
Good point. No question about that.
What happens when both players play safety? Do you just safety all night?
A well-played safety usually results in a foul and ball in hand.
Thanx Doc!
Rick Henderson You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
If im hitting the 9 ball stripes then why the hell would my opponent hit the same why will he not hit the solids or the black😒😒😒
This video concerns "last ball" shot options. If you are playing 8-ball, the last ball is the 8-ball ... there is no stripe or solid remaining.
Sir i watch alot of your videos bit u could use the 8 ball itself i got confused actually😅😅 btw great love and respect from India...
@@Whynotbarisaab This type of situation comes up a lot more commonly in 9-ball and 10-ball. That's why I showed it as a 9-ball example. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm a big fan of three banks. In the side. Or it's a good safety.
I hit about 90percent of my attempts
I'd like to see a live video showing a 90% make rate on the 3-railer into the side. That would be impressive.
@@DrDaveBilliards I played a game of nineball. Banked 6 shots in a row to win I most often finish with the three banks to the side
What cue/shaft are you using man? Love the vids 👍 keep them coming
Giovanni Carranza Predator P2 with 12.4 Revo shaft.
Can we play pool in snooker cue
Suman N Gowda Yes. Many snooker cross-over players have used their snooker cue to play pool.
7. 8. 9. 10. Wooooooooooow! Well done Dave. Go for it! Your opponent is a looser. Take care 'n God Bless:D
I tried to play shot 7 but ended up playing shot 10 and lost the match in a call-pocket game :/
Next time, play Shot 7 instead of Shot 10. :)
Back when I was playing every day and before I took 20 years off from the game I could make this shot around 70 to 80 percent of the time using extreme right hand spin. I'm using a predator cue now with a revo shaft and the deflection is so much less than my old cue that I wouldn't chance it. At least not yet. Another quality video, so glad I found out about you.
Thank you for posting, and enjoy the rest of my stuff.
I know from experience some of those shots are not as easy as they seem. Especially on fast cloth
None of these shots are easy to play well and consistently. And you are right ... some of them are much tougher than the others. That's why it is important to practice ... so you can learn about this through experience so you will have better judgement when playing.
“That was a good miss”
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There are definitely "bad misses" (where you sell out the game) and "good misses" (where you leave your opponent with no good option).
Dr.dave gift me a cue please...cause i dont have ...
You might want to check with a cue supplier. They might be able to offer you something very cheap.
First shot won't drop with tight pockets.
It will drop if you hit it better ... obviously. I think I hit the cushion a little too close to the ball, and the cushions on this table are soft so they compress more than normal, causing me to overcut the ball a little.