Credit where it's due, he had the entire thing sussed out. Nobody could say for certain how it was all going to go, but he was spot on with his analysis, even if the exact outcome varied ever so slightly. Take him down the bookies with you, he's the man.
In a fairer universe, I personally would have rewarded each franchise if it was different: North Scotland- Grampian Central Scotland- Scottish Southern Scotland/Northern England- Border North East- Tyne Tees Television North West- Granada Television Yorkshire and Lincolnshire- Yorkshire Midlands- Central Wales and West- Teledu Cymru/Television Wales and the West East England- Anglia South East- Southern Television South West- Westward Television London Weekday- Thames London Weekend- Rediffusion Northern Ireland- Ulster I personally feel this would have been a fairer playing field, down the line if it was very different and not the same.
I'd disagree with Westward, it wasn't the system which brought them down, it was their in-house squabbling. Maybe if they were more stable, they wouldn't have been bought by TSW in August '81, and how far are you going back? That's pretty much the exact same as the Franchises as they stood in '67, with the exceptions of Rediffusion in London Weekend, which would've made Thames pretty much impossible as that was 48% owned by Rediffusion. THe other exception being Central, which once again, was 48% owned by ATV Network's parent company for the 1st year. I mean, I know you're speaking about a perfect world, but would'nt have Granada gone down the same path it did in real life, just with them merging with, say, Rediffusion, which would've had 48% of Thames, instead of merging with Carlton?
@@williamfitzgerald2007In 1967 it was also predicted that in London Rediffusion would keep Weekdays while ABC (forced out by the decision to split the North into 2 separate regions both with new 7 day licences and the Midlands a new 7 day licence) would get the Weekend franchise which would be extended to 7pm Friday (5:15pm from 1982) to Closedown on Sunday but the David Frost led group caused the upset which led to ABC and Rediffusion merging to form Thames. But in the original North (which would be split into 2 separate franchises with 7 day licences one being headquartered in Manchester which would cover South Cumbria/Lancashire/Cheshire/North Derbyshire and the other a new Yorkshire franchise which would be headquartered in Leeds) and Midlands areas. The predictions made by the press in 1967 were guessed right was that two rival groups bidding for the new Yorkshire franchise would be forced to merge into one company which was the Yorkshire Post led group and the Television Yorkshire Telefusion led group+. While in the West side of the Northern region Granada would keep the South Cumbria/Lancashire/Cheshire/North West Derbyshire* franchise. While ATV Network (rebranded as Central from 1982) would keep the Midlands (*based on the original 1967 local government set up as Merseyside and Greater Manchester would not come into existence until April 1974 and the Manchester based licence holder would not get the Isle of Man until 2009) (+Telefusion was a TV and Electrical goods retailer headquartered in Blackpool). While the Border region would have been abolished and split between Granada, Tyne Tees and Scottish
It's also infuriating ironic that the "Overbid" limit that was placed on TVS' and TSW's bids and had forced them off the air at the end of 1992, could have easily allowed TV-am to automatically win if it had been enforced onto the Breakfast Television franchise, but of course as it was a national franchise, it was too lucrative for such a sanction.
In a fairer universe, I personally would have rewarded each franchise as such: North Scotland- Grampian Central Scotland- Scottish Southern Scotland/Northern England- Border North East- North East Television North West- North West Television Yorkshire and Lincolnshire- Yorkshire Midlands- Central Wales and West- Merlin Entertainment East England- Anglia South East- Meridian South West- TSW London Weekday- Thames London Weekend- LWT Northern Ireland- Ulster I personally feel this would have been a fairer playing field, down the line. Without Granada and Carlton's foothold, the takeovers would have likely been slowed down, or non existent in some areas. If this happened, I would foresee this: 1. Scottish and Grampian merge into STV. 2. UNM would own Meridian and Anglia, but would have merged with Thames instead, creating the big region CPV-TV wanted. 2. The Border region would have been scrapped, and shared between the combined STV, NETV, and NWTV. 3. Yorkshire and Tyne Tees wouldn't merge and have as huge a debt, probably keeping Yorkshire safer from a takeover. 4. Merlin could have become a Wales only service, with TSW taking it over (a bit like now) 5. Thames would perhaps takeover LWT, eventually, and make it a 7 day service. 6. Central or Westcountry would still be taken over by Carlton, but not change names, as the lack of London would make them weaker.
In any, and in ANY case, a loss of Granada would have been near catastrophic to ITV, as coronation street (the network’s big money maker) would have (IMO and speculative if Granada lost) gone to the BBC, and that would have cut a main Vein to the heart of ITV. Plus, would you really have liked a tv system with Redmond at the helm of the next to most important region after London proper? Better yet, what would have happened to ITV with no Granada.
Even as someone that can't properly remember regional ITV[I can only remember Carlton],I like what I've seen of TSW and I think had I been around at the time I would have loved it.
In my opinion here is how the 1991 ITV franchise round should have been: Thames and LWT keep their franchise. Meridian takes over from TVS. TSW in the South West keeps their franchise. Central TV should be taken over by Carlton. STV, UTV and Grampian keep their franchises. Granada should have lost and North West TV should have won. Anglia, Tyne Tees and Yorkshire keep their franchises. Channel TV maintain theirs. Border TV maintain theirs. Merlin TV should take over from HTV in Wales/West of England. TV AM keep their breakfast franchise. In that way, Carlton would not have got their grubby hands on London.
NWTV bid too much and with they might have had a bias towards Liverpool which would alienate viewers in Manchester. A lot of people think HTV should have lost as they were similar to Southern in the 1980 franchise round in they had become dated.
This was broadcast on 9th October 1991, 7 days before the results were announced. On the BBC Breakfast news on the morning of the results it was said that Thames and TV-AM would go due to being outbid and the most vulnerable companies outside of London were TVS and TSW because of their high bids. The feeling was Granada were not in danger as NWTV would not pass the quality threshold due to regional programmes not being up to scratch.
I am almost certain that had Thames had bid the same as its rival CPV-TV (£45m - considering that CPV they failed the qualty test), TVS and TV-am had bid the same as Yorkshire (£37m) and TSW had bid the same as LWT (£8m?), they probably would all had kept their franchises.
You're probably right. Meridian bid around £36m and ousted TVS, Westcountry only bid £8m to oust TSW. Had TSW bid £10m and TVS £40m they would probably have stayed.
The problem was Thames had a big staff bill as well as studios to maintain. Saying that it turned out they were spot on because Carlton couldn’t pay the £43million and had to get a reduction to this. But even if the licence had been revoked, Thames probably couldn’t have gone back
TSW should never of been taken off air, TSW was popular with everyone its was bold and served its region well, we are a small region and we dont all like a london styled based station, TSW stood up for its self and made it feel like u were part of the ITV family, since Westcountry took over they have movd away from that family feel, and now ITV means nothing but complete and utter trash and wasting money on rubbish trying to be popular but has failed
IN SUMMARY: ALL PRICES ARE IN BRITISH POUNDS. MIDLANDS: Central Bid 2,000 and was UNOPPOSED BORDERS/ISLE OF MAN: Border Bid 50,000 and was UNOPPOSED CENTRAL SCOTLAND: Scottish Television (STV) Bid 200,000 (some say 50,000) and was UNOPPOSED NORTHEAST: Tyne Tees Bid 14.5 Million , Opposed by North East Television (NETV), who bid 5 million . WINNER:TYNE TEES (Highest Incumbent Bid) YORKSHIRE AND LANCASHIRE: Yorkshire Television Bid 37.7 Million Pounds, opposed by Viking Television, who bid 30 Million, and White Rose Television, who bid 17 Million. while the ITC originally considered FAILING the Yorkshire Television Bid for Financial reasons... The WINNER: YORKSHIRE TELEVISION (Highest Incumbent Bid) EAST OF ENGLAND: Anglia Television Bid 17.8 Million , opposed by CPV-TV (who bid 10.1 Million) and Three East Television (3ETV), who bid 14.1 Million. WINNER: ANGLIA TELEVISION (Highest Incumbent Bid) (CPV Failed on Quality) WALES AND WEST: Harlech Television (HTV) Bid 20.5 Million, opposed by Channel 3 Wales and West (C3WW) who bid 18.3 Million, Merlin Television, who bid 19.4 Million, and C3W (same name as C3WW but with one W) who bid 17.8 Million. WINNER: HTV (Highest Bid) SOUTHWEST: Television Southwest Bid 16 Million but was Controversially Thrown out because of their bid being too High. Westcountry Television bid 7.8 Million. TSW took the matter all the way to the high courts, but the courts sided with Westcountry. WINNER: WESTCOUNTRY TELEVISION ADDITIONAL NOTE ON SOUTHWEST: Out of the franchise changes, TSW is the one I find to be the most Unfair, since TSW had a bid that was the same size mark as Anglia and Tyne Tees. I find as that IF Anglia was OK with a 17.8 Million Bid, Yorkshire being OK with a bid of 37 Million, and Tyne tees being OK with a bid of 14.5 million, Why not TSW with a bid of 16 Million. NORTHWEST: Granada bid 9 Million opposed by Mersey Television (North West Television, Headed by Phil Redmond), who bid 35 Million. Redmond had backing of Tyne Tees and Yorkshire, but was thrown out on grounds of Quality. WINNER: GRANADA (Quality threshold) FURTHERMORE, Granada actually KNEW about some of the Mersey TV Plans to bid, so they had plans to sell their shows, including what is most likely the Most well known show in All of the UK, Coronation Street, to Outside producers. And it is also thought that the Quality Threshold was Granada's Idea. LONDON (FRI-SUN): London Weekend Television (LWT) bid 7.5 Million Opposed by London Independent Broadcasting who Bid 35 Million. WINNER: LWT (Quality Threshold) SOUTH/SOUTHEAST: Television South (TVS) Bid 60 Million, and was thrown out because of a Outrageously high bid. Other opponents included Carlton (18.1 Million), and CPV (22.1 Million) (SEE East of England) WINNER: Meridian Television at 36.5 Million. CHANNEL ISLANDS: Channel Television (CTV) Bid 1,000 Pounds Opposed by CI3 group who bid 102,000 pounds, but failed on Quality. WINNER: CTV (Quality) NORTHERN IRELAND: Ulster Television bid 1.01 Million opposed by Television Northern Ireland (TVNI) and Lagan Television at 2.7 million. Lagan Failed on Quality, TVNI failed on Financial. WINNER: Ulster (would rebrand as UTV) By default. It is also figured that Ulster got a "Exceptional Circumstances" clause due to the Political situation in Northern Ireland at the time of the 1991 auction. NORTHERN SCOTLAND: Grampian Television Bid 725,000 Pounds. Outbid By Channel 3 Caledonia (1.1 Million) and North of Scotland Television (NSTV) (2.7 Million). Both competitors lost on the basis of Quality. WINNER: Grampian (Quality) LONDON (MON-FRI) Thames Bid 32.77 Million. Outbid by Carlton at 43 Million and CPV at 45 Million. While CPV was thrown out on Quality, For some reason, Carlton got through and won the franchise WINNER: Carlton (highest Bid). Thames would continue on as an Independent Producer. they are now under a company called Talkback, and was at one time under Pearson Communications. NATIONAL BREAKFAST: TV-AM Bid 41.1 Million. Outbid By Sunrise Television (34.6 Million) and Daybreak Television (33.2 Million) WINNER: SUNRISE TELEVISON (Highest Bid) Sunrise would be told to change their name to GMTV (Good Morning Television) due to a claim from Murdoch's Sky Group.
@@NelvanaFan1971 Daybreak, according to what I have found, was through ITN, with MAI and Carlton also having small selections. There was also the possibility NBC could have been a partner.
@@CJODell12which was inherited from Central after 1995! Carlton were a publisher broadcasted, who only commission shows , from " independent producers". They don't even own studio's, hiring LWTs South Bank facilities.
+edmund184 Correct. the 1990 broadcasting act was the starting point, the ITV franchise bidding was the end. It was not a real auction. It was guess work, unless you could find out if anyone was bidding against you. The most stupid framework for ITV is the franchises. In the US the situation as the affiliates. However there is no bidding wars, just an independent company making an agreement with a US network to cover a certain city or area. ITV should have followed that way maybe.
+edmund184 Originally it was "winner takes all", meaning who ever bid higher would win. It was David Mellor who persuaded Thatcher to amend the act to ensure there was a "quality" threshold. It meant nothing really, just an empty void which tried to make the ITC cared about quality rather than money.
Well, If it was any other region, he Possibly would have got it, BUT, since he was going up against the mighty Granada, the producers of World In Action and Coronation Street, he probably had very little to no shot at getting the North West franchise.
Credit where it's due, he had the entire thing sussed out. Nobody could say for certain how it was all going to go, but he was spot on with his analysis, even if the exact outcome varied ever so slightly. Take him down the bookies with you, he's the man.
In a fairer universe, I personally would have rewarded each franchise if it was different:
North Scotland- Grampian
Central Scotland- Scottish
Southern Scotland/Northern England- Border
North East- Tyne Tees Television
North West- Granada Television
Yorkshire and Lincolnshire- Yorkshire
Midlands- Central
Wales and West- Teledu Cymru/Television Wales and the West
East England- Anglia
South East- Southern Television
South West- Westward Television
London Weekday- Thames
London Weekend- Rediffusion
Northern Ireland- Ulster
I personally feel this would have been a fairer playing field, down the line if it was very different and not the same.
I'd disagree with Westward, it wasn't the system which brought them down, it was their in-house squabbling. Maybe if they were more stable, they wouldn't have been bought by TSW in August '81, and how far are you going back? That's pretty much the exact same as the Franchises as they stood in '67, with the exceptions of Rediffusion in London Weekend, which would've made Thames pretty much impossible as that was 48% owned by Rediffusion. THe other exception being Central, which once again, was 48% owned by ATV Network's parent company for the 1st year. I mean, I know you're speaking about a perfect world, but would'nt have Granada gone down the same path it did in real life, just with them merging with, say, Rediffusion, which would've had 48% of Thames, instead of merging with Carlton?
@@williamfitzgerald2007In 1967 it was also predicted that in London Rediffusion would keep Weekdays while ABC (forced out by the decision to split the North into 2 separate regions both with new 7 day licences and the Midlands a new 7 day licence) would get the Weekend franchise which would be extended to 7pm Friday (5:15pm from 1982) to Closedown on Sunday but the David Frost led group caused the upset which led to ABC and Rediffusion merging to form Thames. But in the original North (which would be split into 2 separate franchises with 7 day licences one being headquartered in Manchester which would cover South Cumbria/Lancashire/Cheshire/North Derbyshire and the other a new Yorkshire franchise which would be headquartered in Leeds) and Midlands areas. The predictions made by the press in 1967 were guessed right was that two rival groups bidding for the new Yorkshire franchise would be forced to merge into one company which was the Yorkshire Post led group and the Television Yorkshire Telefusion led group+. While in the West side of the Northern region Granada would keep the South Cumbria/Lancashire/Cheshire/North West Derbyshire* franchise. While ATV Network (rebranded as Central from 1982) would keep the Midlands (*based on the original 1967 local government set up as Merseyside and Greater Manchester would not come into existence until April 1974 and the Manchester based licence holder would not get the Isle of Man until 2009) (+Telefusion was a TV and Electrical goods retailer headquartered in Blackpool). While the Border region would have been abolished and split between Granada, Tyne Tees and Scottish
It's also infuriating ironic that the "Overbid" limit that was placed on TVS' and TSW's bids and had forced them off the air at the end of 1992, could have easily allowed TV-am to automatically win if it had been enforced onto the Breakfast Television franchise, but of course as it was a national franchise, it was too lucrative for such a sanction.
Applause for Central playing its cards right and kicking the greedy ITC where it hurt.
1:06. Scottish actually bid the same amount as Central.
In the case of TSW, it wasn't the bid that was too high, it was the franchise that was too small!
In a fairer universe, I personally would have rewarded each franchise as such:
North Scotland- Grampian
Central Scotland- Scottish
Southern Scotland/Northern England- Border
North East- North East Television
North West- North West Television
Yorkshire and Lincolnshire- Yorkshire
Midlands- Central
Wales and West- Merlin Entertainment
East England- Anglia
South East- Meridian
South West- TSW
London Weekday- Thames
London Weekend- LWT
Northern Ireland- Ulster
I personally feel this would have been a fairer playing field, down the line. Without Granada and Carlton's foothold, the takeovers would have likely been slowed down, or non existent in some areas. If this happened, I would foresee this:
1. Scottish and Grampian merge into STV.
2. UNM would own Meridian and Anglia, but would have merged with Thames instead, creating the big region CPV-TV wanted.
2. The Border region would have been scrapped, and shared between the combined STV, NETV, and NWTV.
3. Yorkshire and Tyne Tees wouldn't merge and have as huge a debt, probably keeping Yorkshire safer from a takeover.
4. Merlin could have become a Wales only service, with TSW taking it over (a bit like now)
5. Thames would perhaps takeover LWT, eventually, and make it a 7 day service.
6. Central or Westcountry would still be taken over by Carlton, but not change names, as the lack of London would make them weaker.
I'm Sorry, But How dare you force out Granada, the producers of the top show in Britain, Coronation street?
@@davidmatthewvinotjr8396 I said 'A Fairer Universe'. And a fairer universe would have Granada lose the franchise
In any, and in ANY case, a loss of Granada would have been near catastrophic to ITV, as coronation street (the network’s big money maker) would have (IMO and speculative if Granada lost) gone to the BBC, and that would have cut a main Vein to the heart of ITV.
Plus, would you really have liked a tv system with Redmond at the helm of the next to most important region after London proper? Better yet, what would have happened to ITV with no Granada.
And how did Granada make it so easily over the infamous "quality threshold"? Oh, that's right, they helped to write it.
Even as someone that can't properly remember regional ITV[I can only remember Carlton],I like what I've seen of TSW and I think had I been around at the time I would have loved it.
3:46 - In the East of England, some people there believed even Anglia joined the consortium.
The guesses were good in the end.
Thames had bid £32.5 million while Carlton had bid £43.1 million.
In my opinion here is how the 1991 ITV franchise round should have been: Thames and LWT keep their franchise. Meridian takes over from TVS. TSW in the South West keeps their franchise. Central TV should be taken over by Carlton. STV, UTV and Grampian keep their franchises. Granada should have lost and North West TV should have won. Anglia, Tyne Tees and Yorkshire keep their franchises. Channel TV maintain theirs. Border TV maintain theirs. Merlin TV should take over from HTV in Wales/West of England. TV AM keep their breakfast franchise. In that way, Carlton would not have got their grubby hands on London.
No. North West TV's plans were completely impractical.
NWTV bid too much and with they might have had a bias towards Liverpool which would alienate viewers in Manchester. A lot of people think HTV should have lost as they were similar to Southern in the 1980 franchise round in they had become dated.
Granada was in greater danger than TSW, yet Granada passed but TSW did not.
Granada was never in trouble because of two words "Coronation Street"
This was broadcast on 9th October 1991, 7 days before the results were announced. On the BBC Breakfast news on the morning of the results it was said that Thames and TV-AM would go due to being outbid and the most vulnerable companies outside of London were TVS and TSW because of their high bids. The feeling was Granada were not in danger as NWTV would not pass the quality threshold due to regional programmes not being up to scratch.
@@dlamiss Granada did gamble on the fact that NWTV would not pass quality threshold. And Carlton should've been disqualified on quality threshold.
@@Hampstead343 Fair comment and in all honesty Granada was correct
AH so disney had a hand in sunrise, that explains Diggit...
ITV as a whole couldn't make it over the quality threshold today.
ITV today is just an airtime sales company with programmes produced largely by independent production companies and decided by a central scheduler.
I am almost certain that had Thames had bid the same as its rival CPV-TV (£45m - considering that CPV they failed the qualty test), TVS and TV-am had bid the same as Yorkshire (£37m) and TSW had bid the same as LWT (£8m?), they probably would all had kept their franchises.
Thames would of still lose because of Maggie 's total hate towards Thames.
You're probably right. Meridian bid around £36m and ousted TVS, Westcountry only bid £8m to oust TSW. Had TSW bid £10m and TVS £40m they would probably have stayed.
The problem was Thames had a big staff bill as well as studios to maintain. Saying that it turned out they were spot on because Carlton couldn’t pay the £43million and had to get a reduction to this. But even if the licence had been revoked, Thames probably couldn’t have gone back
TSW should never of been taken off air, TSW was popular with everyone its was bold and served its region well, we are a small region and we dont all like a london styled based station, TSW stood up for its self and made it feel like u were part of the ITV family, since Westcountry took over they have movd away from that family feel, and now ITV means nothing but complete and utter trash and wasting money on rubbish trying to be popular but has failed
funny he thought another franchise battle would happen after 1991
IN SUMMARY:
ALL PRICES ARE IN BRITISH POUNDS.
MIDLANDS: Central Bid 2,000 and was UNOPPOSED
BORDERS/ISLE OF MAN: Border Bid 50,000 and was UNOPPOSED
CENTRAL SCOTLAND: Scottish Television (STV) Bid 200,000 (some say 50,000) and was UNOPPOSED
NORTHEAST: Tyne Tees Bid 14.5 Million , Opposed by North East Television (NETV), who bid 5 million . WINNER:TYNE TEES (Highest Incumbent Bid)
YORKSHIRE AND LANCASHIRE: Yorkshire Television Bid 37.7 Million Pounds, opposed by Viking Television, who bid 30 Million, and White Rose Television, who bid 17 Million. while the ITC originally considered FAILING the Yorkshire Television Bid for Financial reasons... The WINNER: YORKSHIRE TELEVISION (Highest Incumbent Bid)
EAST OF ENGLAND: Anglia Television Bid 17.8 Million , opposed by CPV-TV (who bid 10.1 Million) and Three East Television (3ETV), who bid 14.1 Million. WINNER: ANGLIA TELEVISION (Highest Incumbent Bid) (CPV Failed on Quality)
WALES AND WEST: Harlech Television (HTV) Bid 20.5 Million, opposed by Channel 3 Wales and West (C3WW) who bid 18.3 Million, Merlin Television, who bid 19.4 Million, and C3W (same name as C3WW but with one W) who bid 17.8 Million. WINNER: HTV (Highest Bid)
SOUTHWEST: Television Southwest Bid 16 Million but was Controversially Thrown out because of their bid being too High. Westcountry Television bid 7.8 Million. TSW took the matter all the way to the high courts, but the courts sided with Westcountry. WINNER: WESTCOUNTRY TELEVISION
ADDITIONAL NOTE ON SOUTHWEST: Out of the franchise changes, TSW is the one I find to be the most Unfair, since TSW had a bid that was the same size mark as Anglia and Tyne Tees. I find as that IF Anglia was OK with a 17.8 Million Bid, Yorkshire being OK with a bid of 37 Million, and Tyne tees being OK with a bid of 14.5 million, Why not TSW with a bid of 16 Million.
NORTHWEST: Granada bid 9 Million opposed by Mersey Television (North West Television, Headed by Phil Redmond), who bid 35 Million. Redmond had backing of Tyne Tees and Yorkshire, but was thrown out on grounds of Quality. WINNER: GRANADA (Quality threshold) FURTHERMORE, Granada actually KNEW about some of the Mersey TV Plans to bid, so they had plans to sell their shows, including what is most likely the Most well known show in All of the UK, Coronation Street, to Outside producers. And it is also thought that the Quality Threshold was Granada's Idea.
LONDON (FRI-SUN): London Weekend Television (LWT) bid 7.5 Million Opposed by London Independent Broadcasting who Bid 35 Million. WINNER: LWT (Quality Threshold)
SOUTH/SOUTHEAST: Television South (TVS) Bid 60 Million, and was thrown out because of a Outrageously high bid. Other opponents included Carlton (18.1 Million), and CPV (22.1 Million) (SEE East of England) WINNER: Meridian Television at 36.5 Million.
CHANNEL ISLANDS: Channel Television (CTV) Bid 1,000 Pounds Opposed by CI3 group who bid 102,000 pounds, but failed on Quality. WINNER: CTV (Quality)
NORTHERN IRELAND: Ulster Television bid 1.01 Million opposed by Television Northern Ireland (TVNI) and Lagan Television at 2.7 million. Lagan Failed on Quality, TVNI failed on Financial. WINNER: Ulster (would rebrand as UTV) By default. It is also figured that Ulster got a "Exceptional Circumstances" clause due to the Political situation in Northern Ireland at the time of the 1991 auction.
NORTHERN SCOTLAND: Grampian Television Bid 725,000 Pounds. Outbid By Channel 3 Caledonia (1.1 Million) and North of Scotland Television (NSTV) (2.7 Million). Both competitors lost on the basis of Quality. WINNER: Grampian (Quality)
LONDON (MON-FRI) Thames Bid 32.77 Million. Outbid by Carlton at 43 Million and CPV at 45 Million. While CPV was thrown out on Quality, For some reason, Carlton got through and won the franchise WINNER: Carlton (highest Bid). Thames would continue on as an Independent Producer. they are now under a company called Talkback, and was at one time under Pearson Communications.
NATIONAL BREAKFAST: TV-AM Bid 41.1 Million. Outbid By Sunrise Television (34.6 Million) and Daybreak Television (33.2 Million) WINNER: SUNRISE TELEVISON (Highest Bid) Sunrise would be told to change their name to GMTV (Good Morning Television) due to a claim from Murdoch's Sky Group.
who was in the daybreak consortium
@@NelvanaFan1971 Daybreak, according to what I have found, was through ITN, with MAI and Carlton also having small selections. There was also the possibility NBC could have been a partner.
*Just what if* Phil Redmond won..........?
The fact that people thought Carlton didn't have a single good programme, how the hell did the past the quality threshold?
We’ll never know how Carlton passed it. Their only program of any real merit was Inspector Morse.
@@CJODell12which was inherited from Central after 1995! Carlton were a publisher broadcasted, who only commission shows , from " independent producers". They don't even own studio's, hiring LWTs South Bank facilities.
Possibly the point in which British TV was destroyed?
+edmund184 Thanks Maggie.
+edmund184 Correct. the 1990 broadcasting act was the starting point, the ITV franchise bidding was the end. It was not a real auction. It was guess work, unless you could find out if anyone was bidding against you. The most stupid framework for ITV is the franchises. In the US the situation as the affiliates. However there is no bidding wars, just an independent company making an agreement with a US network to cover a certain city or area. ITV should have followed that way maybe.
+edmund184 Originally it was "winner takes all", meaning who ever bid higher would win. It was David Mellor who persuaded Thatcher to amend the act to ensure there was a "quality" threshold. It meant nothing really, just an empty void which tried to make the ITC cared about quality rather than money.
Phil Redmond won't make it over the quality threshold. Really????
Latter day Brookside and current day Hollyoaks.
That’s Mersey Productions Styled North West Television Limited, bid colossal £35 Million
Well, If it was any other region, he Possibly would have got it, BUT, since he was going up against the mighty Granada, the producers of World In Action and Coronation Street, he probably had very little to no shot at getting the North West franchise.
@@davidmatthewvinotjr8396I Think it had to do with Redmond's bias towards Liverpool
Granada was in greater danger than TSW, yet TSW passed but Granada did not.
TSW put up a lot of money, which the ITV felt they could not afford to pay per year. That was their mistake.
If it was turned around the opposite way.