Tbf wouldnt that still protect you in sbmm. Your that good but you cant compete against players of your same skill level or is that not how it works you wanna shit on noobs to call yourself a better player
Mark Rubin is really making this game work in the best way. He tempered expectations the best he could, proceeded to blow past them and remained transparent through it all. Then circled back to say that moving forward it's not a sprint for them... they are in it for the long haul. Love every second of it. And it's nice to know when Elden Ring DLC eventually take my undivided attention, I can continue to come back for new updates and not worry about the game winding down to make room for another installment.
So the guy says the OBJ doesn't matter, but is saying that in a post that he made where he was upset about losing a game.... where to win you need to play the objective. The contradiction is so strong here it hurts
It doesn't matter if you constantly get on the objective just to lose it to the first enemy that comes on to it. Use your brain, if all you can do is get on the objective and NOT DEFEND the objective then what good are you to the team? Are you waiting on other people to protect you or something Mr. President? What's the issue?
I'll admit there's been several times I've wanted to just not do the obj cause most of my team never does. They have no problem watching and camping by the obj but they never actually attempt to capture or recapture the fucking thing.
There are times when I go severely negative when I get into those "net code" games. Most of the time I just leave the match when there is a literal 1 second delay between hit markers and actual dmg. Sometimes I stay and do OBJ stuff and just throw EMP's everywhere to be annoying. It feels good to have a triple negative k/d and then see your character with "30 emp hits" at the end of the match. lol
@@Itsdonnietello Too many times that happens. If it was just once in awhile ok, but it happens way too much. I haven't played it in several days because of that. Firebomb standing right next to the guy and zero damage done (multiple times). Shotgun practically touching back of enemy's head while ADSing gets hit marker yet 0 damage done (a few times). Headshots to the face with various guns, hit markers with 0 damage done (a whole bunch of times). Shooting people in the back with 0 damage done (no hit markers) for them to turn around and seemingly melt me with 2-3 bullets (way too many times). Dying 5 feet around a corner, with said corner and a wall, between enemy and myself (can't even count the times). This was all happening routinely in lobbies where everyone was supposedly running pings of between 20 and 40 max.
@@r.j-3861 It's not only a few players experiencing it. I would say that you are lucky and one of the few players that haven't ever had issues with it.
Bro ppl be running around avoid the objective where I'm the only one escorting. One Time we were 99.7% and everyone was just camping with snipers watching
@@brandonjacobs2737 yep, it’s the most frustrating game mode, I get that people with high kdr “help” but getting a high kdr while helping to move it is more impressive imho
The problem is that these so-called slayers is they try to pad their KD. They only get kills farming people playing the objective. Before EOMM kicked in. I would get 100+ kills in domination while defending the B flag. That's the difference between me and a so-called slayer. To be good at FPS need to be good at both. Modern COD has ruined that playstyle for solo players thanks to EOMM. And now these people are crying in xdefiant when a whole side of their lack of skill is exposed. Play the OBJ and control the map and flanks. That's how you win and get kills
It’s not just EOMM, Warzone killed multiplayer. Everyone and I mean everyone only plays multiplayer to get their camos so they can have it for Warzone, that’s it.
Mark Rubin knows the cod community pretty well, one of his old interviews (I think it was him) he say: cod players play just cod because they actually not really players 😂 it must be the cod ghosts era interview so pretty long time ago. Todays players are worser it’s all about making mich kills winning? Not important! KD? Is more important as to play with your team and have some fun.
I think it also needs to be said that most people who take the 'Slayer' choice in Objective modes... they don't play with the objective in mind and just hunt for kills. I've had wayyy too many situations where I'd be alone on an Obj and half my team is running around the map trying to kill enemies, and eventually spawn flip them hard enough to just spawn on the Objective. Pro 'Slayers' do stick near the Obj and act as a Frontline against the enemy, but on average... not many people actually do that. People get impatient and run to find that gunfight rather than secure the win by keeping a perimeter around the Objective held. I think it would help a bit to have something where if you get kills near the objective (but not on it so long as someone else is holding it or it's captured), you'd get a bit more points for acting as a Defender since you're playing objectively. Might not be the full solution but might give people the idea that yes... the Objective Gamemodes are Objective Based and not another TDM mode. Would also be smart to just make the scores reflect off of Objective score vs KDA since people aren't paying attention to the scores that actually matter. They just see 'Top of leaderboard because of kills and thus they were carrying', ignoring the whole mechanics of the gamemode itself. Can only hope Mark Rubin can think of a way to shift people's thinking on it (as funny as calling someone out is, that isn't gunna make em stop playing the way they are. They'll just continue doing their method of playing out of spite)
All these games need to start tying stuff to playing the obj. You will start seeing good hard fights over it then. Weapon unlocks and even battlepass progression. People that play obj should be earning more xp and battlepass progression then someone who is just killing.
JB, as soon as you said the thing about Objective players and Slayers, that changed my own perspective on how I play the modes. Thanks for the point. Sometimes I do ignore the objective, my bad.
I know that's the type of player I am, that's why I always play hotshot. I don't have to go out of my way to play obj and I'm top player 9/10 times because I can just grab the tags from the guys i kill
One thing that kind of sucks about the objective play tho... .On lets say Zone Control... If you aren't IN the zone, you aren't getting objective points. For the better part of a match, I was standing out in front of the zone areas defending anyone from getting to the point. I then got called out for having Zero objective points. I was getting on my team for not being forward more helping to defend... but of course they all tell me to stop talking because I have Zero objective points. Like I get it, it looks bad having Zero objective points in an objective based mode... but if you can keep them off the point by being out in front of it, instead of inside of it... It just make sense. You can win the match on Zone control by preventing them from ever getting on the point.. and you'll have zero objective points and win the game. Now when it's like say Domination or Occupy or Escort... it's gonna be a bit more concerning to have zero points. Granted again, I could be out in front of the point, still helping with the objective.. so it's kind of bad. It's just a point of toxicity that I've seen and even criticized people.
If my team wins, idc about my KD. Ive got a 1.4KD, 80% win rate, and average player rating of 3500ish. Im not usually a "slayer" and i like that. If ive got a teammate who is a demon, i just tell him "i got the hill covered, get loose." Feels like the idea of teamwork is a lost art in gaming. If you're stacked with ppl you know from discord, youre probably gonna be ok. But very rarely do i solo queue and end up with a squad who wants to/will work together to win.
Facts! Great comment….People forget playing solo means you are gonna be playing against teams who play and communicate all the time. Most the time when I play solo I get no communication but when you do and can tell each other what’s going on it helps so much. Unfortunately a lot of people have forgot the art of teamwork on a competitive game. They think the matchmaking is rigged but forget all the other variables. Playing full groups vs full groups is where the fun is at. No excuses the better team wins and you gotta make adjustments to hopefully win or they just dominate your group.
Played last night against a ps player, he was using echelon, intel ping, level 92 on occupy. He had 45 obj score, but got 70 kills 23 deaths. Bunny hope galore. I'm sorry but what a sad world we live in. What a sad sad world we live in.
In all honesty in the past week or so I’ve seen more and more of those type of players migrating from cod and it gets old certain peoples only way to have fun is at the expense of everyone else and it’s sad.
i get several lost due to that type of player. sometimes closer closes. we lost a 749-750 on arena with rank 1 on the team with 20 obj score...i was rank 2 with 2900+ obj score n like 14 kills away from him only
@@MrDon967bro that’s crazy I Lose almost ever match cuz my team sucks so Bad they just going for kills and hardly obj wile im Trying to go for obj and getting killed a lot it frustrating so damn much bro the other team has s stacked with good players and doing what you need to do to win while my team just f n off ugh
Thank you Mark! Hahah I’m a decent player in Xdefiant and I’ve had plenty games where I’ve gone for 40-50 kills with 2kd+, but I always play the obj. I want to win. I’ve willingly taken plenty kills to capture a point or to push the escort to the next checkpoint while everyone else does nothing. This game is much more team focused and I love that aspect of it
Zone control and escort is the EPITOME of obj. I’m typically the “one guy who goes back & forth” and I can promise you, you need that player in every match
3:43 I absolutely LOVE this part of the gameplay! The way you use your ultra to keep the enemies in their spawn and your teammate deploys his shield to assist you is such an amazing play!
100% agreed. And I don't think anybody has ever said getting kills isn't important in an FPS. It's just that if you're doing it in the opposite corner of the map far enough from the enemy spawn for them to literally get to the OBJ faster by dying and respawning then we have an issue lol.
I had my favorite game of occupy yesterday our team was down 140 to 220, and they were about to seal it but our team came back to win last second. Most satisfying win cuz we stuck it out and played obj.
4:46 I be trying to tell people this but they dont understand this tho. Someone that has a 45 obj score doesnt mean he wasnt playing the obj. Rare times that player may rotate to hold it down until the less skilled player comes back.
So put the value for objective score as a higher weight on your overall spot make it clear getting objective is the way to go. This is kinda of over valuing points for kills. If mark knew what he was doing he would know that he made a game that by design demands kills.
If you're solo queueing especially that makes it even more important to know when to frag out and when to go OBJ. This guy simply didn't know when to do that. He expected his teammates to di all the work. For a fragger a 2 K/D is not good enough to be fragging out. Fragging out is for those 5 or 10 K/D individuals. Since they're really punishing the enemy. Not the 2 K/D guys
@@thabruhfrom9444 let me clarify a bit more. This is on a per match basis. Which makes sense cause I can only call out his K/D based off that one screenshot. If you feel yourself going on a 5, 10+ killstreak. Keep fragging out. You are absolutely helping everyone just by doing that. If you're dying after every other kill. Play OBJ more. Cause a 2 to 3 killstreak isn't punishing enough to help your random set of teammates that you don't know the skill set of. Cause when you die you have to haul you butt from spawn, while your teammates are getting are destroyed in that short time. Also pretty glad you know average K/D isn't 1 it's actually lower. A lot of people don't know that.
The difference in this game from cod is when your off doing your own thing then your not using your character ability to help teammates which is what this game is about. Teams that control the area and use their abilities right are the teams winning the matches.
From k/d ratios: Enemy team : 3 good performing, 1 underperforming Ally team : 1 good performing, 1 mid performing, 2 underperforming No matter how, if the enemy fire force is stronger, you won't be able to win. Specially when the enemies understand (often mid game) that YOU are the main target to focus. Also something that is not correct, is that damage to shields count as overall damage : it falsifies the damage stats. Maybe his teamates did damage only by damaging shields ! I must agree that the game was close, but it's weird, from the stats, it should have been a stomp. It seems to me that the enemies were playing deathmatch, which is probably why the score is so close, but it could have hardly been a victory. Enemies were playing double energy shield, double heal, which is a strong comp, while the OP was playing spiderbot and the 3/33 guy was playing bash shield (lol), i mean come on, the team diff seems obvious :) So I kinda understand the OP, even though he has his mistakes (playing spiderbot?), this game seems unbalanced, and saying that the 3/33 guy played better, sorry but no.
3:12 then if OBJ is more important than kills then experience points should be 10 x more for OBJ and kills XP should be zero. That would ensure everyone goes for OBJ and kills are secondary. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The past two days I’ve spent a total of about 45 minutes just trying to get in a game. I bought a battle pass and half my time is spent in lobby waiting for players.
How do you have a chance of winning getting into a half timed game a when you have a no teammates and the opposing team has dudes going 70 and 5 or 40 and 8?
There’s still balancing problems that need to be fix. Worry that one day they might do the R6 operator pick and choose method where only one player can chose one operator. So no one can go the same operator. And snipers need some balancing
Nice video. I my self are not such a great player, actually I am 60 years old, but I play to win by trying hard for that objective in order to help the team. Now I am relatively new here and don't know much about KDs all I do is play and try to win, not to interested in how many I kill or how many times I get killed, actually when in an objective, you will get kill defending, yes you get kills also, but chances are that a player like, will get kill anyway. I enjoy the game, the comments from other players within the game while in a match, and just plain and simple, enjoy and have fun. At the end of the day we are not getting paid millions of dollars to play the game or get kills. Love the vid. Thanks.
I've been really happy with Mark rubin, the cod/xdefiant community isn't always the best and he has a great balance of tough skin to deal with toxicity, while also listening and pointing out constructive criticism
I like mark Rubin he speaking out what a lot of people think. I think people who play solo forget they are probably playing a group that has 3-5 players all communicating. They making call outs and playing how the game is suppose to be played. When playing solo you don’t get much communication from the team. That’s why I hardly play unless I’m with friends. If I do play solo then I back out if I see a team who plays well and our team has no communication. It’s not their fault my team don’t play like there’s does.
Just played today with a lvl 122 player on occupy with 50 kills 22 deaths but lost cause all my teammates were only care about getting their kdr up straight. The enemy team just got around 20 above kills and 20-30 deaths but they won. The final score was 64-250.
Idk about that. The COD players who just go for kills definitely seem to be rewarded more for not playing the objective. That’s what Iv notice ever single game I play.
Im just waiting for tdm to play this game. The past few games ive played no one in my team plays objective. They might capture one point and then go for kills. Cause as of rn everyone is just trying to level up guns and not worried about winning and ive found myself doing it too.
At that point I would suggest hotshot. I'm trying to level too but im not all that concerned with it so I'll try to play objective. Sometimes I have to be the one to play objective and sometimes others on my team allow me to try and get kills
Insurgency, Battlefield, R6S, CSGO, The Finals, CoD, Brink, Titanfall, GoW, Xdefiant, Arma, Enlisted, Bodycam, Hailstorm, The Crew (Not the racing game), Halo, Doom, i can go all day. All of these games are FPS games yet none of them play the same. You cant go from one FPS game to another thinking they're the same. Same genre, different mechanics, different tactics. I can't believe i remember Brink, Hailstorm, and The Crew. These were all early 360 games i still own even though they're unplayable now since they shut down the servers for them. 😔😅 Damn im getting old. But ill still be playing even after most of this community retires.
I have noticed since I've started playing this game that absolutely no one uses the in-game voice chat, the player base of this community suffers from a lack of communication
I have a problem with Mark saying that playing the objective is all that matters when he has a system setup where objective score has zero impact on weapon progression. The game itself encourages players to ignore the objective for the sake of kills. This is why just speeding up the grind isn't the answer. Players need to be expressly rewarded for being on the objective through unlocks; otherwise they are essentially having to make the choice to forfeit progression in order to play the objective.
Play the objective!!! I’m sick of people just going for kills when I’m on the objective consistently. It irks me a lot. Granted we don’t have tdm yet so I have to take that into account but I’m a huge objective player.
I do gotta say xDefiant does make me rage but its still fun asf to play, even when I feel like I cant fight or do anything, as mad as I get there is still something to take away from the match
Change title (Mark Ruben just destroyed the "toxic" xdefiant community) The REAL xdefiant community has no problem with a little bit of competitiveness... People don't understand that EOMM in call of duty was being developed AND integrated during the first release of Rebirth Island back in 2019-2020. Low level players can no longer be protected by activisions and blizzards dirty practices... (Edit) People still don't understand the difference between SBMM and EOMM. People ALSO don't understand that Call of Duty is LYING about how EOMM truly works...
The guy worrying about his precious KD is what cost the match. Mark is 100% correct That dude could have pushed into objective a bit more since there is no kill streaks to build up to or nuke to earn why did that player stay out of the dance floor? Get the objective AND stay in it and DEFEND it.
it's gonna be kinda funny when they do add tdm and all the players who think they're amazing for fragging out in objective based game modes get a reality check and realize they've just been ganking ppl in the back who are trying to play the game
Sometimes, you really try to play OBJ but die on the way or get get into gunfights along the way. Or, when most of your team is already in the OBJ it's a better idea to not cluster up so 1 grenade could kill you all so sitting on the outside and protecting it could be classed as OBJ play but you don't get scored for it. The end objective score of any given player may not always accurately represent how they actually played OBJ. Obviously if someone has 30+kills and few deaths, but next to no OBJ score, then it's probably safe to say they are a bad none OBJ player. In this case I think the guy going 3-33 was basically like his team being a man down. But this is what happens with no SBMM, which I will always prefer.
The one thing I wish they would do for the teams or matchmaking is to make it so the people who quit once they start losing bad are the ones who get put onto other games with quitters . It's annoying when you're in a game where everyone but a few on my team keep quitting then once the game is over I'm put into a match that's almost over or halfway through and I'm on the losing team that was getting demolished so half the team left mid game. I know I'm not a great player so it's not the losing that bothers me its constantly being in games where it's 2 or 3 against 6 most of the time cuz everyone backing out then the next game is the same thing but i get thrown in halfway through
Honestly SBMM has fried CoD Players, Fragging and and defensive OBJ Plays are 2 different things, and the main reason I enjoy XDefiant is because U have to play as a Team, otherwise U ain't gonna win a single match. U always need one player who is gonna be annoying and draw the Enemies away from OBJ while the other players can go along and set-up choke points and have the 1 player who caps all OBJ. It's called TEAM PLAY!!!!
From now on I’m calling him Mark bourbon when he’s hitting people with facts. Cause I could Imagine him just sitting back drinking a bourbon and torching people with facts.😂😂😂😂
I had a game yesterday. Where nobody except me went to the C capture from start of the game. I was capping alone and they didnt even try to go for B. Only for kills. So I left the game cause it was a game whe were going to lose no matter how many kills my team would get.
It's honestly funny bc I have a more Battlefield mindset then Cod, I have a more defensive and methodical thinking type of playstyle when it comes to games like this. I would always try to flank around OBJ to get a sense of where the enemies would be positioned in so that I can figure out how to engage properly before pushing OBJ. I'll even setup traps around the map to help out my team if I can.
It doesn't even matter who is right or wrong. You can't win them all and you can't always have teammates do well. Even in games with sbmm, there are people going 3-33 as well. As a matter of fact, before i quit cod, i would find people who didn't even try to capture a single flag; would hide in our spawn and barely move. And those are the people that sbmm chose as good teammates for me. That guy should get better at the game, now that he's no longer being protected by predatory alghorithms.
This dumb asf. If kills don’t matter at all let’s just get rid of guns and just have everyone get the the obj as fast as they can. I can’t wait till this game dies in the next few months cuz clearly they don’t care . They’re just gonna keep doing what they want like every game company does. TeAm BaLaNcE iS gOoD. Bullshit, everyday I hop on now I get in lobbies were it’s so unfair that my entire team stays in spawn. So fun having to go against lvl 100s on the other team while the highest on mine is almost lvl 50 ( 50 less lvls then the enemy just in case you didn’t know).
Take a shot everytime this guy says "ohh-bee-jay" 😂 jesus man lol. Edit: i would literally be so hammered in 3 minutes of this video if i actually did this. 😂 im sorry i had to make fun of you for it. "Ohhh-beee-jayyy"
I wish OBJ's play was rewarded more. Standing on the zone should give 10 points seconds over 5. Then getting a kill around the obj but not on it is a +50 but a kill on the zone is a +100. Right now all I can do is thumbs up whoever has the highest obj score. I don't care if my teammate when 70 -12 I'm voting for the man winning the game for us every time even if he got a 3-33.
This is the way I play, purely objective based. I don’t go 3-33 tho lol My last 3 games, of Occupy I went, 14-20, 11-23, 18-19. Won all 3 and had the highest Obj score all 3 matches. I’d rather win the game and let the slayers go for the glory.
Funnily enough, I only play hardpoint/occupy. I have maybe 100-200 obj points per game. Before yall get mad at me( I rot8 with 18 seconds left every rotation )to get spawns first then slay out. Rarely lose I’ve been getting bitched at by randoms for not playing obj WHEN WE WIN BY 150 points. Some people will never be happy.
Objective is all that matters to me lol. Id rather go 4/25 knowing I have the most objective score and contributed to the win. We dont have Team Death Match or anything of that sort so kills really dont matter. Id take that any day knowing I need to get better at gunplay than be hand held by SBMM
Nah man that screenshot of the teams was nothing to show off 😂 bro I played 10 matches yesterday and I took screenshots of them all with me having 30+ kills with lots of objective score but my WHOLE team was playing like that 3-33 guy 😭😅 not just one person it was my whole team and then the enemy team all has double digit kills. Also it feels like I’m getting put against lots of people playing in party’s when I’m playing solo cause the enemy team is always running together like they making callouts.
criticizing the player base when the developer should've had tdm in from the start is kind of crazy considering how long this game has been in development
The patch notes for today's update is amazing to read. Please make a blind react video for it to jot only enjoy what you read hut to inform the community on the update
As great as it feels to actually play the game and not run into 2-3 juggernauts with sniper rifles and halo jumping crack bunnies in every single god damn match. The game is still held back by a horrid netcode cause I'm still shoving way too much ammo into people and dying instantly assuming at least half those bullets even register at all.
Nah i kinda do get the player who said fix matchmaking, The matches are consistent in terms of bad teammates Who will literally stare at a wall while i'm fighting five people, And the other team is literally fighting for the hope and dreams of this planet in its final days like?.....Can i get a teammate?
The other team is probably a group. When playing solo you get no mic communication or anything meanwhile you are playing a team of 3-5 who call things out and play how it’s suppose to be played.
Crazy, all these kids saying ‘skill issue’ are the same ones being protected by SBMM
Exactly 😂
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An streamers using cheats is a huge problem
Tbf wouldnt that still protect you in sbmm. Your that good but you cant compete against players of your same skill level or is that not how it works you wanna shit on noobs to call yourself a better player
My issue is match riggin changing bullet damage per gun fight to make sure you lose
My brain read "Cuban" and I was like...... why is SharkTank getting involved??
And for that reason, I'm out.
It always cracks me up, when I play this game. The person with the most kills usually has the least objective score! Rubin is spot on!
Mark Ruben is the savage we needed😂
Facts
Mark Rubin is really making this game work in the best way. He tempered expectations the best he could, proceeded to blow past them and remained transparent through it all. Then circled back to say that moving forward it's not a sprint for them... they are in it for the long haul.
Love every second of it.
And it's nice to know when Elden Ring DLC eventually take my undivided attention, I can continue to come back for new updates and not worry about the game winding down to make room for another installment.
So the guy says the OBJ doesn't matter, but is saying that in a post that he made where he was upset about losing a game.... where to win you need to play the objective. The contradiction is so strong here it hurts
It doesn't matter if you constantly get on the objective just to lose it to the first enemy that comes on to it. Use your brain, if all you can do is get on the objective and NOT DEFEND the objective then what good are you to the team? Are you waiting on other people to protect you or something Mr. President? What's the issue?
@@LilPeroxideJr.did you not see the scores on the pic?😂
He also said the teams were unbalanced and posted a game with less than 1% difference in team scores to prove it lol.
lol that’s a a gag. I didn’t even think of that 😂
I'll admit there's been several times I've wanted to just not do the obj cause most of my team never does. They have no problem watching and camping by the obj but they never actually attempt to capture or recapture the fucking thing.
They both have a point.
Mark is a chad. Game will last long because of him.
Assuming Ubisoft doesn't get greedy.
Every game development team needs a Rubin sandwich. 🤣🤣 He's the GOAT.
No cap, ruben sandwiches are dank af
They really are. @@zackrosado3749
There are times when I go severely negative when I get into those "net code" games. Most of the time I just leave the match when there is a literal 1 second delay between hit markers and actual dmg. Sometimes I stay and do OBJ stuff and just throw EMP's everywhere to be annoying. It feels good to have a triple negative k/d and then see your character with "30 emp hits" at the end of the match. lol
Some games I’ll literally see my bullets not connecting it’s just not fun
How is it that only few players experience that issue. Cause through my entire time playing since the beginning, I’ve never had issues with hit reg.
Lol count yourself lucky then@@r.j-3861
@@Itsdonnietello Too many times that happens. If it was just once in awhile ok, but it happens way too much. I haven't played it in several days because of that. Firebomb standing right next to the guy and zero damage done (multiple times). Shotgun practically touching back of enemy's head while ADSing gets hit marker yet 0 damage done (a few times). Headshots to the face with various guns, hit markers with 0 damage done (a whole bunch of times). Shooting people in the back with 0 damage done (no hit markers) for them to turn around and seemingly melt me with 2-3 bullets (way too many times). Dying 5 feet around a corner, with said corner and a wall, between enemy and myself (can't even count the times). This was all happening routinely in lobbies where everyone was supposedly running pings of between 20 and 40 max.
@@r.j-3861 It's not only a few players experiencing it. I would say that you are lucky and one of the few players that haven't ever had issues with it.
Seems like every game of escort I play, I'm the only one advancing while every one else thinks it's a tdm match
Same, I had to stop playing escort because of it, I just get “lol gitgud bad kdr” at the end
Bro ppl be running around avoid the objective where I'm the only one escorting. One Time we were 99.7% and everyone was just camping with snipers watching
@@brandonjacobs2737 yep, it’s the most frustrating game mode, I get that people with high kdr “help” but getting a high kdr while helping to move it is more impressive imho
The problem is that these so-called slayers is they try to pad their KD. They only get kills farming people playing the objective. Before EOMM kicked in. I would get 100+ kills in domination while defending the B flag. That's the difference between me and a so-called slayer. To be good at FPS need to be good at both. Modern COD has ruined that playstyle for solo players thanks to EOMM. And now these people are crying in xdefiant when a whole side of their lack of skill is exposed. Play the OBJ and control the map and flanks. That's how you win and get kills
It’s not just EOMM, Warzone killed multiplayer. Everyone and I mean everyone only plays multiplayer to get their camos so they can have it for Warzone, that’s it.
That dude must be a COD player lol
Mark Rubin knows the cod community pretty well, one of his old interviews (I think it was him) he say: cod players play just cod because they actually not really players 😂 it must be the cod ghosts era interview so pretty long time ago. Todays players are worser it’s all about making mich kills winning? Not important! KD? Is more important as to play with your team and have some fun.
Dude made the games, lol
(The good ones... And Ghosts, but Ghosts was alright tbh)
@deathloop935 he was part of the original infinity ward team.
I think it also needs to be said that most people who take the 'Slayer' choice in Objective modes... they don't play with the objective in mind and just hunt for kills. I've had wayyy too many situations where I'd be alone on an Obj and half my team is running around the map trying to kill enemies, and eventually spawn flip them hard enough to just spawn on the Objective. Pro 'Slayers' do stick near the Obj and act as a Frontline against the enemy, but on average... not many people actually do that. People get impatient and run to find that gunfight rather than secure the win by keeping a perimeter around the Objective held.
I think it would help a bit to have something where if you get kills near the objective (but not on it so long as someone else is holding it or it's captured), you'd get a bit more points for acting as a Defender since you're playing objectively. Might not be the full solution but might give people the idea that yes... the Objective Gamemodes are Objective Based and not another TDM mode.
Would also be smart to just make the scores reflect off of Objective score vs KDA since people aren't paying attention to the scores that actually matter. They just see 'Top of leaderboard because of kills and thus they were carrying', ignoring the whole mechanics of the gamemode itself. Can only hope Mark Rubin can think of a way to shift people's thinking on it (as funny as calling someone out is, that isn't gunna make em stop playing the way they are. They'll just continue doing their method of playing out of spite)
Dude's literately asking for SBMM.
All these games need to start tying stuff to playing the obj. You will start seeing good hard fights over it then. Weapon unlocks and even battlepass progression. People that play obj should be earning more xp and battlepass progression then someone who is just killing.
As Blame Truth said: "Today, we play the objective!"
JB, as soon as you said the thing about Objective players and Slayers, that changed my own perspective on how I play the modes. Thanks for the point.
Sometimes I do ignore the objective, my bad.
I know that's the type of player I am, that's why I always play hotshot. I don't have to go out of my way to play obj and I'm top player 9/10 times because I can just grab the tags from the guys i kill
Need more people to come to this conclusion?!!👍
One thing that kind of sucks about the objective play tho... .On lets say Zone Control... If you aren't IN the zone, you aren't getting objective points. For the better part of a match, I was standing out in front of the zone areas defending anyone from getting to the point. I then got called out for having Zero objective points. I was getting on my team for not being forward more helping to defend... but of course they all tell me to stop talking because I have Zero objective points. Like I get it, it looks bad having Zero objective points in an objective based mode... but if you can keep them off the point by being out in front of it, instead of inside of it... It just make sense. You can win the match on Zone control by preventing them from ever getting on the point.. and you'll have zero objective points and win the game. Now when it's like say Domination or Occupy or Escort... it's gonna be a bit more concerning to have zero points. Granted again, I could be out in front of the point, still helping with the objective..
so it's kind of bad. It's just a point of toxicity that I've seen and even criticized people.
You can hover near the OBJ and still be actively doing the OBJ without being in range to get the OBJ score. Its why I don't care about OBJ scores.
If my team wins, idc about my KD.
Ive got a 1.4KD, 80% win rate, and average player rating of 3500ish. Im not usually a "slayer" and i like that. If ive got a teammate who is a demon, i just tell him "i got the hill covered, get loose."
Feels like the idea of teamwork is a lost art in gaming. If you're stacked with ppl you know from discord, youre probably gonna be ok. But very rarely do i solo queue and end up with a squad who wants to/will work together to win.
Facts! Great comment….People forget playing solo means you are gonna be playing against teams who play and communicate all the time. Most the time when I play solo I get no communication but when you do and can tell each other what’s going on it helps so much. Unfortunately a lot of people have forgot the art of teamwork on a competitive game. They think the matchmaking is rigged but forget all the other variables. Playing full groups vs full groups is where the fun is at. No excuses the better team wins and you gotta make adjustments to hopefully win or they just dominate your group.
Agree with Mark; the 'KDR means everything' mentality needs to go away.
If mister kill happy only cared about kills, he won. Why is he complaining.
If he wanted to win win he should have played the actual game mode.
Played last night against a ps player, he was using echelon, intel ping, level 92 on occupy. He had 45 obj score, but got 70 kills 23 deaths. Bunny hope galore. I'm sorry but what a sad world we live in. What a sad sad world we live in.
@_JbowenDaMan indeed. Game had a lot of quality players but also bad. It's just like cod back in the day we just gotta keep going.
In all honesty in the past week or so I’ve seen more and more of those type of players migrating from cod and it gets old certain peoples only way to have fun is at the expense of everyone else and it’s sad.
@@tayzerface then make obj level weapons? Might change some things imo. I chase kills alot to level shit faster won't deny it but obj is life lol.
i get several lost due to that type of player. sometimes closer closes. we lost a 749-750 on arena with rank 1 on the team with 20 obj score...i was rank 2 with 2900+ obj score n like 14 kills away from him only
@@MrDon967bro that’s crazy I
Lose almost ever match cuz my team sucks so
Bad they just going for kills and hardly obj wile im
Trying to go for obj and getting killed a lot it frustrating so damn much bro the other team has s stacked with good players and doing what you need to do to win while my team just f n off ugh
Thank you Mark! Hahah I’m a decent player in Xdefiant and I’ve had plenty games where I’ve gone for 40-50 kills with 2kd+, but I always play the obj. I want to win. I’ve willingly taken plenty kills to capture a point or to push the escort to the next checkpoint while everyone else does nothing. This game is much more team focused and I love that aspect of it
problem is slayers who play too far from teammates and never give obj support when needed
This sounds like something overwatch players would argue about. Like "too many people playing DPS"
Same dude on his own reddit post replied and said he wasn’t worried about the win in a pub game, but complained he lost smh
I'm an OBJ player and i wish i have that pin point accuracy that those rapid slayers have but I've been having a blast with the double shotty.
Zone control and escort is the EPITOME of obj. I’m typically the “one guy who goes back & forth” and I can promise you, you need that player in every match
3:43 I absolutely LOVE this part of the gameplay! The way you use your ultra to keep the enemies in their spawn and your teammate deploys his shield to assist you is such an amazing play!
Indeed 🗿
People be like “I hate SBMM” and then be like “Fix the team balancing” because it definitely isn’t their fault 🤣
100% agreed. And I don't think anybody has ever said getting kills isn't important in an FPS. It's just that if you're doing it in the opposite corner of the map far enough from the enemy spawn for them to literally get to the OBJ faster by dying and respawning then we have an issue lol.
I had my favorite game of occupy yesterday our team was down 140 to 220, and they were about to seal it but our team came back to win last second. Most satisfying win cuz we stuck it out and played obj.
love those kinds of comeback wins.
4:46 I be trying to tell people this but they dont understand this tho. Someone that has a 45 obj score doesnt mean he wasnt playing the obj. Rare times that player may rotate to hold it down until the less skilled player comes back.
So put the value for objective score as a higher weight on your overall spot make it clear getting objective is the way to go. This is kinda of over valuing points for kills.
If mark knew what he was doing he would know that he made a game that by design demands kills.
If you're solo queueing especially that makes it even more important to know when to frag out and when to go OBJ. This guy simply didn't know when to do that. He expected his teammates to di all the work. For a fragger a 2 K/D is not good enough to be fragging out. Fragging out is for those 5 or 10 K/D individuals. Since they're really punishing the enemy. Not the 2 K/D guys
Completely wrong. Average kdr is 0.97, pros are 1.8 - 2.8 kdr. No one has a 5 kdr.
@@thabruhfrom9444 let me clarify a bit more. This is on a per match basis. Which makes sense cause I can only call out his K/D based off that one screenshot. If you feel yourself going on a 5, 10+ killstreak. Keep fragging out. You are absolutely helping everyone just by doing that. If you're dying after every other kill. Play OBJ more. Cause a 2 to 3 killstreak isn't punishing enough to help your random set of teammates that you don't know the skill set of. Cause when you die you have to haul you butt from spawn, while your teammates are getting are destroyed in that short time.
Also pretty glad you know average K/D isn't 1 it's actually lower. A lot of people don't know that.
Finally the COD players will be told to ‘get good’ for once
How are you going to assume he’s a cod player lol ?
@@elvisrolon1862 even if he wasn’t a cod player- Why would some rando be telling devs what to do with their game? lol
The difference in this game from cod is when your off doing your own thing then your not using your character ability to help teammates which is what this game is about. Teams that control the area and use their abilities right are the teams winning the matches.
He’s a real contender for developer of the year.
Mark ruben is stating 100% facts !!!!
From k/d ratios:
Enemy team : 3 good performing, 1 underperforming
Ally team : 1 good performing, 1 mid performing, 2 underperforming
No matter how, if the enemy fire force is stronger, you won't be able to win. Specially when the enemies understand (often mid game) that YOU are the main target to focus.
Also something that is not correct, is that damage to shields count as overall damage : it falsifies the damage stats. Maybe his teamates did damage only by damaging shields !
I must agree that the game was close, but it's weird, from the stats, it should have been a stomp. It seems to me that the enemies were playing deathmatch, which is probably why the score is so close, but it could have hardly been a victory.
Enemies were playing double energy shield, double heal, which is a strong comp, while the OP was playing spiderbot and the 3/33 guy was playing bash shield (lol), i mean come on, the team diff seems obvious :)
So I kinda understand the OP, even though he has his mistakes (playing spiderbot?), this game seems unbalanced, and saying that the 3/33 guy played better, sorry but no.
3:12 then if OBJ is more important than kills then experience points should be 10 x more for OBJ and kills XP should be zero. That would ensure everyone goes for OBJ and kills are secondary. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm always solo queueing, and escort is the worst for this. About 80 percent of the time, nobody moves the package. We lose 100% to like 10%.
I have waited so long to see an actual game dev telling shit players off. Bravo!
The team balancing is insane because I’ve had the closest games out of every game that I’ve ever played. I’ve never had this many close games in cod.
The past two days I’ve spent a total of about 45 minutes just trying to get in a game. I bought a battle pass and half my time is spent in lobby waiting for players.
Seriously? I have crossplay off amd even then i only wait like 30-45 seconds for a lobby ( NA East )
@honestlynate7922 thats not normal. I get in a game in 15 seconds maybe try to re instal te game
How do you have a chance of winning getting into a half timed game a when you have a no teammates and the opposing team has dudes going 70 and 5 or 40 and 8?
There’s still balancing problems that need to be fix. Worry that one day they might do the R6 operator pick and choose method where only one player can chose one operator. So no one can go the same operator. And snipers need some balancing
Nice video. I my self are not such a great player, actually I am 60 years old, but I play to win by trying hard for that objective in order to help the team. Now I am relatively new here and don't know much about KDs all I do is play and try to win, not to interested in how many I kill or how many times I get killed, actually when in an objective, you will get kill defending, yes you get kills also, but chances are that a player like, will get kill anyway. I enjoy the game, the comments from other players within the game while in a match, and just plain and simple, enjoy and have fun. At the end of the day we are not getting paid millions of dollars to play the game or get kills. Love the vid. Thanks.
I don’t even care if Mark Rubin’s right I just think it’s funny as hell that he’s even doing half this stuff
I've been really happy with Mark rubin, the cod/xdefiant community isn't always the best and he has a great balance of tough skin to deal with toxicity, while also listening and pointing out constructive criticism
I like mark Rubin he speaking out what a lot of people think. I think people who play solo forget they are probably playing a group that has 3-5 players all communicating. They making call outs and playing how the game is suppose to be played. When playing solo you don’t get much communication from the team. That’s why I hardly play unless I’m with friends. If I do play solo then I back out if I see a team who plays well and our team has no communication. It’s not their fault my team don’t play like there’s does.
Just played today with a lvl 122 player on occupy with 50 kills 22 deaths but lost cause all my teammates were only care about getting their kdr up straight. The enemy team just got around 20 above kills and 20-30 deaths but they won. The final score was 64-250.
Idk about that. The COD players who just go for kills definitely seem to be rewarded more for not playing the objective. That’s what Iv notice ever single game I play.
Im just waiting for tdm to play this game. The past few games ive played no one in my team plays objective. They might capture one point and then go for kills. Cause as of rn everyone is just trying to level up guns and not worried about winning and ive found myself doing it too.
Who cares. Play how you want. It's a game.
At that point I would suggest hotshot. I'm trying to level too but im not all that concerned with it so I'll try to play objective. Sometimes I have to be the one to play objective and sometimes others on my team allow me to try and get kills
This is true but if you're playing An OBJECTIVE based game mode why not help the team out? @@acidspaz4252
@@acidspaz4252if you’re not playing the objective, then don’t play 🤡🤡🤡
Keep waiting 😂
Insurgency, Battlefield, R6S, CSGO, The Finals, CoD, Brink, Titanfall, GoW, Xdefiant, Arma, Enlisted, Bodycam, Hailstorm, The Crew (Not the racing game), Halo, Doom, i can go all day. All of these games are FPS games yet none of them play the same. You cant go from one FPS game to another thinking they're the same. Same genre, different mechanics, different tactics.
I can't believe i remember Brink, Hailstorm, and The Crew. These were all early 360 games i still own even though they're unplayable now since they shut down the servers for them.
😔😅 Damn im getting old. But ill still be playing even after most of this community retires.
I have noticed since I've started playing this game that absolutely no one uses the in-game voice chat, the player base of this community suffers from a lack of communication
It doesn’t help that voice settings automatically have open chat shut off and players prob don’t even know it
@@colehenderson3632well now I do😂 I was able to a week ago but I guess it turned of I thought it was bugged
@@colehenderson3632thank you so much
I have a problem with Mark saying that playing the objective is all that matters when he has a system setup where objective score has zero impact on weapon progression. The game itself encourages players to ignore the objective for the sake of kills.
This is why just speeding up the grind isn't the answer. Players need to be expressly rewarded for being on the objective through unlocks; otherwise they are essentially having to make the choice to forfeit progression in order to play the objective.
Ppl do not understand xdefiant is not cod it is objective heavy focused game like overwatch . What more they do not understand what obj playing is
I would get so much more objective score if I got objective points for getting kills while on B or getting offensive kills while taking B.
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@__JbowenDaMan what did i win?
Btw u cooked and ate well
Play the objective!!! I’m sick of people just going for kills when I’m on the objective consistently. It irks me a lot. Granted we don’t have tdm yet so I have to take that into account but I’m a huge objective player.
I do gotta say xDefiant does make me rage but its still fun asf to play, even when I feel like I cant fight or do anything, as mad as I get there is still something to take away from the match
Change title (Mark Ruben just destroyed the "toxic" xdefiant community)
The REAL xdefiant community has no problem with a little bit of competitiveness...
People don't understand that EOMM in call of duty was being developed AND integrated during the first release of Rebirth Island back in 2019-2020. Low level players can no longer be protected by activisions and blizzards dirty practices...
(Edit) People still don't understand the difference between SBMM and EOMM. People ALSO don't understand that Call of Duty is LYING about how EOMM truly works...
The guy worrying about his precious KD is what cost the match.
Mark is 100% correct
That dude could have pushed into objective a bit more since there is no kill streaks to build up to or nuke to earn why did that player stay out of the dance floor?
Get the objective AND stay in it and DEFEND it.
it's gonna be kinda funny when they do add tdm and all the players who think they're amazing for fragging out in objective based game modes get a reality check and realize they've just been ganking ppl in the back who are trying to play the game
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He needs to make it more rewarding to play the objective because teammates are no help.
I only play Hot Shot in XD. The other modes just annoy me because my teammates never play the objective. At least Hot Shot is pretty straight forward
Sometimes, you really try to play OBJ but die on the way or get get into gunfights along the way. Or, when most of your team is already in the OBJ it's a better idea to not cluster up so 1 grenade could kill you all so sitting on the outside and protecting it could be classed as OBJ play but you don't get scored for it. The end objective score of any given player may not always accurately represent how they actually played OBJ. Obviously if someone has 30+kills and few deaths, but next to no OBJ score, then it's probably safe to say they are a bad none OBJ player. In this case I think the guy going 3-33 was basically like his team being a man down. But this is what happens with no SBMM, which I will always prefer.
The one thing I wish they would do for the teams or matchmaking is to make it so the people who quit once they start losing bad are the ones who get put onto other games with quitters . It's annoying when you're in a game where everyone but a few on my team keep quitting then once the game is over I'm put into a match that's almost over or halfway through and I'm on the losing team that was getting demolished so half the team left mid game. I know I'm not a great player so it's not the losing that bothers me its constantly being in games where it's 2 or 3 against 6 most of the time cuz everyone backing out then the next game is the same thing but i get thrown in halfway through
Honestly SBMM has fried CoD Players, Fragging and and defensive OBJ Plays are 2 different things, and the main reason I enjoy XDefiant is because U have to play as a Team, otherwise U ain't gonna win a single match. U always need one player who is gonna be annoying and draw the Enemies away from OBJ while the other players can go along and set-up choke points and have the 1 player who caps all OBJ. It's called TEAM PLAY!!!!
I got stuck in a match of domination with people spawncamping with snipers. Honestly that match was not fun.
I would say there should be a balance between playing objective and slaying but still you should focus more on objective
From now on I’m calling him Mark bourbon when he’s hitting people with facts. Cause I could Imagine him just sitting back drinking a bourbon and torching people with facts.😂😂😂😂
I had a game yesterday. Where nobody except me went to the C capture from start of the game. I was capping alone and they didnt even try to go for B. Only for kills. So I left the game cause it was a game whe were going to lose no matter how many kills my team would get.
It's honestly funny bc I have a more Battlefield mindset then Cod, I have a more defensive and methodical thinking type of playstyle when it comes to games like this. I would always try to flank around OBJ to get a sense of where the enemies would be positioned in so that I can figure out how to engage properly before pushing OBJ. I'll even setup traps around the map to help out my team if I can.
It doesn't even matter who is right or wrong.
You can't win them all and you can't always have teammates do well. Even in games with sbmm, there are people going 3-33 as well.
As a matter of fact, before i quit cod, i would find people who didn't even try to capture a single flag; would hide in our spawn and barely move. And those are the people that sbmm chose as good teammates for me.
That guy should get better at the game, now that he's no longer being protected by predatory alghorithms.
"mark rubin just destroyed the xdefiant community!😂"❌
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This dumb asf. If kills don’t matter at all let’s just get rid of guns and just have everyone get the the obj as fast as they can. I can’t wait till this game dies in the next few months cuz clearly they don’t care . They’re just gonna keep doing what they want like every game company does. TeAm BaLaNcE iS gOoD. Bullshit, everyday I hop on now I get in lobbies were it’s so unfair that my entire team stays in spawn. So fun having to go against lvl 100s on the other team while the highest on mine is almost lvl 50 ( 50 less lvls then the enemy just in case you didn’t know).
yep, i hope this game will die when bo6 drops out, current state in xd is so boring you play 1 game and get bored
Take a shot everytime this guy says "ohh-bee-jay" 😂 jesus man lol.
Edit: i would literally be so hammered in 3 minutes of this video if i actually did this. 😂 im sorry i had to make fun of you for it. "Ohhh-beee-jayyy"
I wish OBJ's play was rewarded more. Standing on the zone should give 10 points seconds over 5. Then getting a kill around the obj but not on it is a +50 but a kill on the zone is a +100. Right now all I can do is thumbs up whoever has the highest obj score. I don't care if my teammate when 70 -12 I'm voting for the man winning the game for us every time even if he got a 3-33.
I feel sefeated when the game ends and i dont have the most obj score on my team
Mark is HONESTLY MY HERO
I cant lie, I look forward to these vids every morning while im at work😂
This is the way I play, purely objective based. I don’t go 3-33 tho lol
My last 3 games, of Occupy I went, 14-20, 11-23, 18-19. Won all 3 and had the highest Obj score all 3 matches. I’d rather win the game and let the slayers go for the glory.
Game is immediately balanced with no Sonar imo 🤷🏽♂️
Funnily enough, I only play hardpoint/occupy. I have maybe 100-200 obj points per game.
Before yall get mad at me( I rot8 with 18 seconds left every rotation )to get spawns first then slay out. Rarely lose
I’ve been getting bitched at by randoms for not playing obj WHEN WE WIN BY 150 points. Some people will never be happy.
@_JbowenDaMan Was this a comment about me winning games😂
Objective is all that matters to me lol. Id rather go 4/25 knowing I have the most objective score and contributed to the win. We dont have Team Death Match or anything of that sort so kills really dont matter. Id take that any day knowing I need to get better at gunplay than be hand held by SBMM
Nah man that screenshot of the teams was nothing to show off 😂 bro I played 10 matches yesterday and I took screenshots of them all with me having 30+ kills with lots of objective score but my WHOLE team was playing like that 3-33 guy 😭😅 not just one person it was my whole team and then the enemy team all has double digit kills. Also it feels like I’m getting put against lots of people playing in party’s when I’m playing solo cause the enemy team is always running together like they making callouts.
That's good and all, but most random players don't play the Obj but instead play the game like they're playing cod
We want some more Mw3.
Are the servers down, I couldn’t join today, it kept shutting down?
criticizing the player base when the developer should've had tdm in from the start is kind of crazy considering how long this game has been in development
@7:30 wtf was that counter to ded sec? Pls for the love of god tell me
There's a reason my clan tag in black ops was PTFO
Lmao he didn’t do shit cause xdefiant isn’t even a slight competitor for Cod. There are no competitors for cod 😂 🤦♂️💀
it is tho
@@domooooooooooooooo lmao your delusional 🤣🤣
@@xxPhoenixX-sg9trnah cod isnt the only fps to exist
The patch notes for today's update is amazing to read. Please make a blind react video for it to jot only enjoy what you read hut to inform the community on the update
As great as it feels to actually play the game and not run into 2-3 juggernauts with sniper rifles and halo jumping crack bunnies in every single god damn match. The game is still held back by a horrid netcode cause I'm still shoving way too much ammo into people and dying instantly assuming at least half those bullets even register at all.
Nah i kinda do get the player who said fix matchmaking, The matches are consistent in terms of bad teammates Who will literally stare at a wall while i'm fighting five people, And the other team is literally fighting for the hope and dreams of this planet in its final days like?.....Can i get a teammate?
The other team is probably a group. When playing solo you get no mic communication or anything meanwhile you are playing a team of 3-5 who call things out and play how it’s suppose to be played.
Where is keyboard and mouse support for console😢 and where is the free for all mode?
Oh look what we have here, a new era cod player getting smoked by mark rubin