War and Peace ...and War (35 to 32 B.C.E.)
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Sources:
Plutarch, "The Life of Antony" | tinyurl.com/2dsyxz6d
Suetonius, "The Life of Augustus" | tinyurl.com/3d4bw934
Cassius Dio, "Roman History: Book 50" | tinyurl.com/m8nd6t5x
Cassius Dio, "Roman History: Book 51" | tinyurl.com/m8nd6t5x
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Barry Strauss, "The War That Made the Roman Empire: Antony, Cleopatra, and Octavian at Actium" | tinyurl.com/4h23x888
Stacy Schiff, "Cleopatra: A Life" | tinyurl.com/y9fytw3h
Joyce Tyldesley, "Cleopatra: Last Queen of Egypt" | tinyurl.com/ycyy2y93
Adrian Goldsworthy "Antony and Cleopatra" | tinyurl.com/mrd3rr6r
Adrian Goldsworthy, "Augustus: First Emperor of Rome" | tinyurl.com/mtdxb5vs
Anthony Everitt, "Augustus: The Life of Rome's First Emperor" | tinyurl.com/ydec2m87
Tom Holland, "Dynasty: The Rise and Fall of the House of Caesar" | tinyurl.com/yc8xybpc
Tom Holland, "Rubicon" | tinyurl.com/49a4nf9c
Music:
"XY," by Nctrnm
"Infados," by Kevin MacLeod
"March of the Victors," by Benjamin Botkin
"Thomas Neutrality," by Enrique Molano
"Hitchcock Would Have Fucked Up Charade," by Chris Zabriskie
"Hallon," by Christian Bjoerklund
The reason why it took so long for HC to put this video out wasn't because of research or editing, he was just waiting for tribune Aquila to grant him permission to upload it.
Edit- thank you all so much for getting my comment to 3k likes, this has never happened before. If I made someone smile and happy then that’s a reward that’s enough for me but still thank you for the likes.
Did you get permission from tribune Aquila to post this comment?
Do you remember which video that was in?
@@jerrycramer4132 the video on "caesar as king"
Deep Cuts
@@lkcdarzadix6216 SHOOT I FORGOT
Octavian taking Antony’s will and reading it aloud is like someone stealing your diary and reading it aloud at lunch 🤣
nice pfp
After having the jocks knock out the school librarian
The whole thing is frighteningly cynical- once Octavian understood how to frame the situation he couldn't lose.. An overlooked "benefit" to committing a violent extreme sacrilege to obtain evidence against one's opponent is that no one will question the veracity of said evidence. After all, does it make sense to attack *Vestal Virgins* if you're just going to lie about the will anyway?
Antony's will said *exactly* what Octavian needed it to say.
it was considered illegal
@@budwyzer77 I think you make an interesting and thought-provoking comment. I think I understood the first part-- that the act of such sacrilegious violence could be reframed to demonstrate Octavian's willingness to do anything for the Roman state (including taking on the "Deep State?"
Octavian really lucked out meeting Agrippa, he found the perfect subordinate. Someone unbelievably competent but also trustworthy and unambitious.
unambitious is probably the wrong term, he was more then happy to elevate his station when he could and took initiative constantly, id say content. He would comb to the top if the path was clear but he didnt need to psychologically and was happy to stay no.2
@@ultra-papasmurf Good take.
Octavian and Agrippa really have a Justinian and Belisaurius dynamic. Although I think Agrippa wore the pants more often than not. While Justinian had tighter control over Belisaurius
Aggripa just knew he could not be Avgvstvs
He was from a "low" Equestrian Family
And he was not an Heir of Caesar like Octavian, Caesarion, and Marc Antony
Octavian was a political mastermind, While he didall the wheeling and dealing, Agrippa seemed to be much better at getting down and dirty and going work with more tangible results.
I'm glad Agrippa gets the historical recognition he deserves. Just think of how many people like him were the brains before the successful reigns of other famous historical figures.
Many wives of lazy or disinterested rulers were true brains of the empires.
without agrippa there would not be Augustus
@Nik Nikkersoon Alexander basically started an Age of Empires "death match", with piles of resources and only war in front of him. Although he did abolish all taxes and most of his conquest was funded by the said conquest and mining, which almost made the campaign end near the very beginning. Alexander's dad was also the first person to create a "Greece" through the League of Corinth or Hellenic league
well let’s not forget he’s 100% complicit in putting that sicko octavian in power
wrrr
I genuinely look forward to Historia Civilis uploads more than I do most shows
The only thing I look forward to as much is Oversimplified History.
@@BlitzerXYZ same
Watch more or better shows lmao
Give me history shows like this channel I'm absolutely down for more content like this
I look forward to these videos more than the House of Dragons episodes…
Aggripa has to have been an absolute genius of his time. Modern military mind, incredible city manager and planner, is there anything he couldn't do?
Save the Republic lol. He was the only person who could have and instead he bowed down to his friend and married into the first imperial family.
@@geordiejones5618 i mean, why settle for being a consul when you can be an imperial royal?
@@dane1382 Integrity.
@@GrandMarshalGarithos The republic was corrupt and rotten, it's institutions weren't sufficient for the problems of the time.
Don't forget the cool zoomy noises Agrippa makes when he moves
Octavian: Let's go Agrippa, in and out. One year campaign.
*3 years later*
Octavian: I did NOT have control of that situation AT ALL.
Agrippa: WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS TO US!
Octavian: I DON'T KNOW AGRIPPA, MAYBE I HATE MYSELF, MAYBE I THINK I DESERVE TO DIE, I-I-I DON'T KNOW!
@@outerspace7391 Agripa: (starts crying)
Octavian: We need a vacation.
Senate: Let's celebrate! Tell us all the awesome things you did there!
Octavian: Um... I'm feeling tired, and you all see my knee's acting up. Just postpone it, we'll get to it later
@@garybrown2039 Lepidus: You know, I'm starting to think getting de-facto exiled was a good thing. For me, that is. Not for you.
Crassus’ battle plans: March out into the desert in a square and die 🤷♂️
Caesar’s battle plans: Go behind the enemy lines with a small amount of soldiers and no food for the 50th time and build forts
Octavian and Brutus’ battle plans: what are battle plans?
Agrippa’s battle plans: Big brain time
Ceaser's be like:
Oh my god my troops is starving quick we have to build 40 kilometer wall or we all gonna die......
...holy shit that work?
Caesar: I said we building a wall today
When in doubt build walls
That letter from Antony to octavian is hilarious I guess he really was as funny in real life as he was in the show😂
it feels so real to me and also so stupid that these powerful men from 2100 years ago, are so petty they write one another letters to insult one another over their sexual relationships, like that's something petty people do even today, it's like the lowest you can go when you fight with someone and they do it over fucking letters, we have the internet nowadays.
really shows that regardless of power or time humans are really all the same.
Twitter fingers over parchment is dangerous my boi
@@dariusgunter5344 sometimes you realize that we are, in fact, the same humans that emerged from the caves tens of thousands of years ago. We just know more stuff
@@dariusgunter5344 Romans loved gossip, same as politics today lol
@@dariusgunter5344 Read up on the graffiti from Pompei, it helps prove this even more.
You have everything from people complaining about a tavern owner watering down his wine, to bragging about their sexual accomplishments, to someone threatening whoever keeps shitting on his lawn.
I must be really tired if I'm constantly laughing at every time Agrippa starts spinning and/or flying like a Jetson. And yet, I am still fully awake to acknowledge the absolute genius of the man.
Ohhh, that's what the funny noise was! I guess Agrippa was pretty ahead of his time.
There was another video he made where it zoomed in on an elephant and it trumpeted for some reason. It caught me so off guard i almost pissed myself.
@@DiviAugusti mines was the “happy birthday” one that went from partying to a dead skull
Agrippa is like " Doraemon " of Octavian "Nobita"
@@jtgd happy
Happy
H a p p y
B i r t h d a y
“These wounds probably stayed with Octavian for the rest of his life.”
Same is true for Caesar and his wounds, to be fair.
That "academics being prudes" thing is really true. I went around looking for that "we pissed away your gold in Gaul" song from one of Caesar's triumphs and a most of the translations online basically obscured what was actually being said behind needlessly flowery language.
Which is sad, because vulgarity and the actual translation would make historical figures much more human.
Its honestly criminal that they take this position as well. You'd think that a historian, one dedicated to uncovering/displaying the past, would be entirely faithful to the past. We harp on history so much so we are not "doomed to repeat" it, so any censoring of it is ridiculous, especially when it comes to something so stupid such as a "bad word"
There's a debate between Livy and Pollo in I, Claudius that addresses this point
I imagine the floweryness used to be neccisary in eras where censorship was more common. and now the trend is stuck.
It also hurts texts like the Bible, the weird flowery language also obscures things like puns and references while also making it hard to understand. Sometimes it's to keep the rhythm of a poem or song but goddamn does it make things hard to read.
Agrippa seems to me like the only person in this entire second triuverate phase who actually knows what he's doing and genuenly benefitted the roman citizenry
Thats why Hadrian put his name big as fuck across the top of the Pantheon
@@yessir7147 the portico with the inscription was part of the original building pre-fire though
@@kargaroc386 really? I know Agrippa put his name there first but I didn’t know it survived the fire.
@@kargaroc386 No it wasn't. The whole building was new from the ground up, nothing is preserved from Agrippa's original temple, not even the bronze inscription.
Second triumvirate is nothing compared to first. The entirety of Ist century bc was all fucked.
The more I read and hear about Agrippa, the more I grow convinced that the man was the living personification of competence.
Octavian -
"That's why your shoes raggedy!"
Anthony-
"That's why Caesar dead!"
"Dead as hell!"
"How many daggers they pull out of him?!"
Bro thats cold even for Anthony.
That’s why yo knees got caved in with a rock
@@PublicAnemone1"That's why you can't pray to Jupiter Optimus Maximus bitch!"
I ASKED+ MY CONTENT IS WAYY WORSE THAN HISTORY CIVILIS AND HIS FANS
(I have come to the realization that I'm a huge history CIVILIS fan)
I don't think the Romans spoke like lobotomised zoomers
As an Italian that unadulterated translation felt very, contemporary to modern Italian "discourse". Truly we descend from noble stock lol.
Italian thoughts on how the Greeks kept your ancestors Empire going for another thousand years in the east? Further thoughts on how Greeks continued to call themselves Romans after 1453 and how you can still find some elderly Greeks in isolated pockets that still do today?
@@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008 good for them I guess?
@@ahumpierrogue137 you were not asked.
Politics haven’t really evolved much in 2000 years it seems
@@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008 good for them I guess?
Agrippa thought like an Engineer. Unsurprisingly he also built the Pantheon, an Engineering marvel of the ancient world.
It's not the same Pantheon as the one we can see today in Rome though. This one was built by Hadrian after the original one was destroyed by a fire, and Hadrian was kind enough to keep the original inscription attributing the construction to Agrippa
"he's an engineer, that means he solves problems"-Dell Conager's friend
@@lucascousins6934 "Not problems like 'what is integrity'? Because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of Roman politics. I solve practical problems"
His original Pantheon burned down. The one you see was restored under Hadrian*.
@@tritonlandscaping1505 did you see the first reply and decide to say the same thing ?
Please keep making these even after actium. At least a second "Rome's new political order" about how octavian solidified his power after antony's defeat
Why is this not the most liked comment? What’s wrong with RUclips
@@Lorkwondo1234 i think its a great comment (:
Alternatively, after Actium go back to Sulla, Marius, and the Spartacus rebellion. The time before Caesar. Like a prequel.
@@tommyscott8511 dude I would love a whole series on the decline of the republic. Sadly it would take 17 years. have you read "the storm before the storm"?
@@Lorkwondo1234Such a good book, I feel like it's an essential for anyone who watches this series and wants to learn more. It ends at the perfect time for this series to pick up.
What makes Historia Civilis the best history youtuber imho is that he has the mix of displaing cold hard historic events with just the right tint of humour to it (e.g. the sound effects on Agrippa) just right - while those only putting out data are often dry to watch, others went too far into the comedy where they sometimes misrepresent historic events just to make a joke work
This channel is #1 without question
Agrippa just had access to rome shell
And to mentally fly, As the video shows us 😂
Also, the squares.
@@Slender_Man_186 all hail the green square
As someone has already said, this is the best because of the squares.
"Perhaps the whole damn thing was a near death experience."
The thought of Octavian getting his ass kicked up and down a mountainside really has brightened my day.
Yeah right. I can't stand Octavian. His uncle was much cooler.
@@jmiquelmb yeah but you can't have Agrippa without Octavian so it's worth it
@BlackMasterRoshi still I’m wondering when we get some of the good shit from Octavian mostly up till this point Octavian either gets wrecked and aggripa carries the game or Octavian is lucky for no particular reason the boat war and Antony’s last will burglary being among the lucky ones I mean seriously if Antony’s will said anything other then him having Egyptian heirs Octavian whould have been fucked
Why all the Octavian hate?
@@kingofcards9516 he did some nasty shit
People might not know that you can go and visit Octavian's Mausoleum now. It has been in renovation for 14 years, and the Mausoleum of Augustus has been closed since *the 1970s!* However it is now finally reopened to the public, in 2021. Because its been closed so long and a lack of advertisement, it is not that known to tourists in Italy, yet it contains some of the titans of Rome. It is the final resting place of the first Roman Emperor among others like his younger sister Octavia Minor, Emperor Caligula, Tiberius, and Claudius
EDIT (From Wiki): The traditional story is that in 410, during the sack of Rome by Alaric, the pillaging Visigoths rifled the vaults, stole the urns and scattered the ashes, without damaging the structure of the building. Platner and Ashby, however, posited that "The story of its plundering by Alaric in 410 has no historical foundation, and we know nothing of its destruction".
@Maddie Dang.
@Maddie im real sorry to be the one telling you this but their ashes were scattered and desecrated by the goths of alaric
@@caesar4159 Source?
@@kamalindsey Literally would take you a minute to google this. Their tombs or ashes is not in the mausoleum - however a «tombstome» of what some assume to be of a Julio-Claudian Agrippina does exist.
What is this? A habeas corpus case?
No matter what's inside, it's still a cool old historical place.
And the reason it is still high among tourist attractions is its meaning to the Roman people (and senate of course).
The story of Agrippa cleaning up the city of Rome really speaks to me as someone who is concerned with public works and civic improvement. People tend to forget that the role of government should be to handle these basic, day-to-day, boring functions.
-This is Agrippa!
*Happy spinning space engine noise
-And he means bussines
*Proceds to singlehand carry little Octavian and make his enemies disappear
I LOVE how the fact that Agrippa's thinking and strategies were centuries ahead of his time is represented with the sound effect accompanying him moving around
It's pretty heartwarming considering Roman history both before and after that Agrippa and Octavian never forgot how much they owed each other. A brilliant politician combined with a brilliant general made the Empire work. Afterwards, even if both existed at the same time, they always betrayed or sabotaged each other, and the Empire depended on unicorns who could be both in one man.
Not always, there was Diocletian and Maximian at the end of the Crisis of the 3rd Century. However, it's incredibly rare.
(cough)Justinian and Belisarius(cough)
@@Xalerdane As you know: Justianian blinded Belisarius
@@TimDutch I looked it up and that's considered wrong be most historians. I believe it was just a rumor spread to make Justinian look bad.
@@lordadamantium1210 oh really. In the History Marche documentary it was presented as a fact if i recall correctly.
Curious if Caesar (who was always happy to defer a battle until he had an advantage) knew that the Illyricum campaign was intractable and it was a matter of career expedience that he kept pushing it off.
Maybe he foresaw that it would take too long and had others more pressing matters at hand. When I saw the description of numerous mountains on Illyricum, I was expecting the campaign to be even longer than 3 years... But then Agrippa.
I wouldn't be surprised. A huge trend in the Roman Republic time-frame was generals doing everything they could to avoid embarrassments, to the point that several threats to Rome (the most famous that immediately comes to mind is Spartacus) ended up getting way more traction than was necessary. Think about it, if you win against Spartacus, well, you beat some random slaves. No loot, no glory. If you LOSE, you lost to a slave rabble, and your career is done for. So why would any general accept it?
Illyricum isn't so far off from that. If you pacify it and set things up to run smoothly, no one cares. It was already owned on paper so there's not much glory, it's more like housekeeping. If you LOSE, you're the one who will be blamed for letting it go to hell.
So it does make perfect sense to avoid problem areas where "the juice is not worth the squeeze" and take your resources to seek glory elsewhere. After all, a career in Roman politics or military leadership (the two of which were so entertwined they might as well have been one) was heavily based on how much glory you could achieve and how much loot you could give your men.
@@JB-xl2jc Interesting that this is essentially the argument for destroying Roman republican politics and transforming it into a monarchy in the nutshell. A monarch (Or someone with a similar position to that of a monarch, like Octavian in the video) might be able to tackle long-term issues like this without thinking about their immediate career.
@@user-vz1zc3fn7o Indeed, it was a common argument even at the time! When I was younger I found it fascinating that some of the propaganda at the time basically said things like "If X wins, you won't have to worry about the burden of politics any more, they'll decide everything for you"! I found it so weird that that was BRAGGING or seen as a positive. Turns out the cultural zeitgeist was to be utterly fed up with politicking, civil wars, etc- to the point that someone "strong" coming along and taking it out of your hands was seen by many as a POSITIVE! Really interesting
Smart comment.
I would honestly love to see a deep dive into the life and career of Marcus Agrippa. He seems... Interesting.
Is there a reason why Agrippa is always shown "flying" into the scene whenever he's mentioned? Is that a metaphor for him saving Octavian all the time?
he's superman
I believe it’s supposed to show as him a future time traveler to the past, referencing The Jetsons
Probably to mean he was "ahead of his time" or a man of the future with his forwars thinking. And he indeed uses Jetsons sound effects!
What if he's a literal time traveler, almost every single thing he did resembles what a modern historian would do to fix the Roman Empire
@@ISenjaya71if that was the case i’d hope he’d just save some time and silence cato during caesar and pompey’s feud, would’ve stopped caesar from becoming a tyrant in the first place lol
HE’S NOT DEAD!!!!!
He's getting better!
HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!
First time?
Bro I think he’s in school rn, he doesn’t have the time to put out weekly or even monthly videos
you dudes need to read his website lol, he has trackers for the progress he's making on each video
Just finished rewatching the Rome playlist yesterday, this couldn't be more perfectly timed!
I was going to in preparation since I had a feeling it'd be soon, now I wish I did
Same, what a coincidence for him to upload now
too bad: I had to wait for a year
Did tribune aquila give you permission though?
Yes but now you’ll just be hungry for more like the rest of us. Waiting. Starving on crumbs like some Roman citizens circa 32BCE.
Agrippa is such a chad of his time. Not afraid to get stuff done. I’m super glad you talked about his work here.
Great video as always! It makes you wonder, what would have happened to Octavian had he not had Agrippa around to continuously win wars for him, organize for him, and literally clean up the city for him. Octavian really inherited his great uncles luck to have a friend like that!
Fully agreed. There's something to be said about being able to inspire loyalty in skilled councilors, but he was very fortunate indeed!
The more I learn about him, the more I feel bad for him. Agrippa doesn't get the recognition *to the extent* he deserved, Octavian exists because of him and Caesar.
He was the brains and strength behind Octavian's naïve ambitions. It says something to his prowess that he was able to get Octavian so far.
@@trustytrest Octavian was not exactly naive though. He had ruthlessly assassinated many political rivals, including Cicero(whom he publicly used to call as father). And look at how successfully he managed to sideline Lepidus, the ablest deputy of Caesar (after Labienus' betrayal that is). The only one who was naive was Agrippa. He was the brain behind the military victories but lacked both the ambition and political savvy necessary to capitalise on it.
While my original statement about Aggripa stays the same, I would like to add on that the reason why we even know about Aggripa to this extent is because not only Octavian recognised his talent, but also rewarded him and gave him the recognition to the extent he reasonably could without potentially risking his own career. If he was on Anthony's side, then he would've been nothing more than just another one of his many subordinates and advisors.
Agrippa is the real hero in my opinion, and Octavian was indeed very lucky to had him. He was extremely loyal, very intelligent and diligent. He did all the work, and saved his ass all the time. Without Agrippa, Octavian is nothing.
They needed each other. Octavian provided the legions for Agripas campaings, the money for Agripas building projects and also the political backing for Agripas political carrer. You could also argue that Agripa, not being from a prominent family, was lucky to attach himself to the most powerfull patron in roman history.
Realy it was mutualy bennificial and both men held up their part of the bargain. Agripa was loyal and supremely competent and Octavian (especialy as Augustus) rewarded and promoted his main man.
@@KKKKKKK777js Agrippa was also a pleabian while Octavian was basically groomed to be Roman royalty. Octavian recognized how important Agrippa was and elevated his status from a lowborn to one of the most powerful men in Rome. And Agrippa never forgot that.
Without Octavian, Agrippa might've been a footnote in history. It really was a mutual benefit for each other.
And also Octavian been able to acknowledge his own shortcomings as a military leader and been able to delegate to his betters in the field.
No, Octavian was good as well. Don't raise a human by lowering another one
I am not saying he was bad, but he wasn't as good as his peers and his uncle. He was always on the back foot of most of his military campaigns, and was saved multiple times Antonius at philippi for example... Or Agripa in iliricum.
Again I am not dissing him I am a big fan boy of his, and one of the reasons I respect him so much is him realising Agripa was better than him in those matters and not only using him but giving him his dues for it.
5 monts felt like a decade.. so glad to see your squares back fighting dir Rome!
It was over 1,5 years since last Roman video...
@@Vielenberg True! Had enough time to watch all videos again and again 🤣
Historia civilis is like that one fun uncle that only comes by every half a year, but has the most impact on you as you grow up
I'm happy that a new video dropped, but I'm sad that it'll unlikely that we'll see another in 2022
Not entirely sure on that. According to his website, his next video is already 60% written.
Aged like milk, but in a good way
@@anisyyxux That's called "cheese"
@@Pizza_Is_Coolthere is also yogurt but that takes special bacteria I guess.
@@LuizAlexPhoenix So does cheese. If you just use milk and rennet and acids you end up with cottage cheese. But if you want cheddar or something like that you need particular bacterial cultures.
I have a theory that Agrippa was a time traveler. He always seems to make the “strategy game” moves that are totally ahead of their time. Fighting multi pronged logistically focused wars, building massive sewer and water sanitation systems that was the least sexy thing to be doing during the lead up to the next civil war, and all around making these game breaking military achievements like he’s a total war campaign pro. I think he is a time traveling romeaboo that learned Latin
POTATOES 🥔
I got a covid diagnosis a few hours ago and am stuck in my room for a week. This video from my favourite creator is pure manna from heaven. I'll be watching it more than once.
Are there people, who watch HC videos only once??
Sickos..
Edit: Get well soon m8!
Get well soon man
Me 2
Get well soon.
Get well soon...
To be fair, this Agrippa-style combined operation mindset isn't exclusively modern; it's the kind of thing you see in Byzantine-era military operations (so way...waaaay later in Roman history, haha). It does still make him unusual for his environment, as in that later era it's a mindset they've been forced to adopt due to limited resources and stronger opponents, whereas the "classical" Romans tended to enjoy advantages in renewable manpower and could afford to be simpler (if that's the right word).
Tactics like modern day russia
@@j1nz007 it's slightly different from a combined arms assault seen in modern day battles as those usually have mechanized and air elements operating in tandom with ground troops but the fundamental idea of individual small gains making up a larger campaign is still the same. Russia is also demonstrating such an offensive poorly
I think it would be great to have a video on all things Agrippa actually accomplished, organized and build. he is really something else!
The Persians tried to do the same (sort of) in the Greco Persian war, where the land based army advanced all the way from modern day Istanbul to Greece, while the fleet tried to occupy the Aegean islands. While the war itself might've been a failure in the long term, it does show that military minds weren't always that simple.
i don't know how to put it, but to me, Historia Civilis is the Agrippa of history content creator. He is the best out there.
been watching since i was a young boy, now a grown man, i remember watching Historia Civilis during lunch breaks back then, and during work hours now. This channel will always have a special place in my heart, and i will remember it till the day i die (i know the last sentence might seem cringe, but i'm just saying what's on my mind)
Could you do a series on historical figures? Maybe Vergil, Phideas, Euclid, or someone most people have forgotten about.
Bro, these are the best historical videos on youtube. They're so engaging, putting you in the shoes of the people of that day. Explaining all of their Dilema's and their reasoning. Something about Historia Civilis just makes history as real as today.
Plus the tunes always get my toes a wiggling.
Extremely true
Meh. Kings and generals channel and some others are slightly better I think. But this dude is top5 definitely
@@-VOR No one pay attention to Vor. He is one of the Kings and Generals bots.
Nobody does it like you!! the true historian master. You are the best, the details, the context, you really make the characters alive, and you really make us feel how they think and behave. Better than a movie, a squares and rectangles movie! The only problem is that you make us wait to loooooong!!!! don't stop!!!!
Dont get it backwards. He's an entertainer, not at all doing the job of the historian. If you go back through his stuff you find many thing presented out of order or timelines fudged to help the presentation of the story.
@@booradley6832 like what
@@booradley6832
Edutainment is what I’d call it-educating people in history in an accessible, entertaining manner?
I’m ok with fudging some details since it’ll get people invested in doing their own reading and research
This series has been going on for 6 years now, what a journey❤
7:00 Every now and again I fantasize what this channel would be like with super fancy graphics and CGI recreations of events. Then I'm reminded by moments like these that we have already achieved perfection.
Btw History Civilis just wanna say I genuinely love this channel and the work you do. Literally didn't know an ounce of Roman History until coming across this channel and its made working at Amazon bearable. Ty m8!
Like Kings and Generals but with comedic CGI😂
gotta appreciate what an amazing general and strategist agrippa really was. what a guy
The ancient world’s Ulysses S Grant
Agrippa 💨 💨 💨 is definitely my favourite square now 😂
So trrrue
^^^^
This is one of the very few youtube history channels that put out quality content.
Good job!
He takes quality over quantity to another level. See you in a few months while we wait for his new video.
It's a shame these videos are so rare! It's always worth the wait though. I always love his form of storytelling. This channel is definitely some of the most inspiring for history story-telling to me. It's actually the sole reason that got me pushed into reading about Rome as a whole. I just happened to come across one of his Julius Caesar videos and it was just told in the most interesting way and I think told the tale of Caesar as well. It may very well have been the first genuine time I heard the full tale told in such depth, beyond what was common knowledge which was that Caesar had been assassinated by multiple people including a man he thought he could trust with his life, Brutus. That was probably the extent of my knowledge before watching Historia Civilis' Caesar videos, give or take. But by sheer chance I happened to stumble on one of those videos, and watched it all the way through, and before I knew it, I was binging everything. I watched even the Rome show by HBO which was fantastic, highly rec as well. Read Caesar's book, too, bought many others both Rome and Greek. So yeah, definitely opened a whole door for me (that would've taken a lot longer for me to get to because I'm a procrastinator but still a history lover)
TLDR; Historia Civilis is awesome. Got me into Rome's history quicker than I would've naturally (as a history lover in general). Also was very clear to understand what went on, it all felt very connected and streamlined the way it was told.
I just wanted to say thank you HC I went to univesity to study Ancient History because of the interest and passion sparked by your videos. Igraduated this year with the highest possible grade so again from the bottom of my heart thank you!
I love this channel so much, I love the subtle implication Aggripa is either a timetraveller or an alien, I love the fact they don't take themselves too seriously, the humour is wonderful and its just overall an incredibly enjoyable experience, especially the prude dialogue.
I knew Agrippa was a big deal just from how reverentially he was treated in I, Claudius. Glad to be getting the play by play Historia Civilis scoop on him.
It puzzles me how capable Marcus Agrippa's subodinates since he can't be the only one doing these fights against Sextus,Cassius and Brutus along with his naval battle against Antony?
Indeed no one cares about the subordinates. The only reason we even know about Aggripa to this extent is because not only Octavian recognised his talent, but also had fairly rewarded him and given him the recognition he deserved, not something that some Octavian haters would understand here though.
When we only get a couple every few months you know they’re gonna be bangers
Especially when they’re Roman videos!
I found you recently and have been watching the Chronological playlist and just watched "Antony's Invasion of Parthia" for the first time 2 hours ago, couldn't have had better timing! Love your videos! And your commitment to make them after all these years is incredible!
Lucky! I've been falling asleep to these videos for years now. The combination of his music and voice help me fall asleep so easily. Glad to see you've found the best history channel on youtube!
@@joelfisk someone like me
At 12:30, missing footage. That's beautiful. 15 years ago I was watching a revolutionary war documentary. It showed some sepia colored film of George Washington preparing to cross the deleware to attack the Hessians. My roommate really really believed it was actually footage of the real George Washington. Even after arguing he still thought, since it looked old, it was real. I mean photography has been around awhile. And films or at least essentially flip books like hundreds of pictures of a horse set together frame by frame to see if all 4 hooves of a horse leave the ground at the same time when running. That was probably 1890s. Not 1780s
This is just such a good series. I really dont think there is a man who can make history as gripping as you do. This is my favorite series on the internet its just such a simple and presentable style, yet is so jam packed with knowledge, you can watch it 3 times and still be enthralled.
"You can watch it 3 times and still be enthralled" Just after this video came out, I binged all of the previous videos in the series for around the fifth time I think now, so I can confirm, I am still enthralled
Historia Civilis, Dovahatty, and K&G are RUclips history legends
I’d also add Oversimplified to that list!
Epichistory TV
@@james_giant_peach seconded
Only watch dovah last though, lol
No lindybeige?
I could not love a human baby as much as I love this channel.
I'm naming my firstborn son Julian, thanks in large part to HC's work and his assistance in helping me fall in love with ancient Rome.
I am inclined to agree
How does one swaddle a youtube channel?
The combination of vivid detail and engaging storytelling is what makes your channel stand out on a platform full of bores and amateurs. You're my favourite history channel on the whole site... I hope you keep putting out videos for a long time, and I'm so glad your channel has gotten the popularity it deserves.
This channel is so comforting to watch. When I saw that a new video dropped I was so stoked. You never disappoint!
out of the several hundreds of yt channels i'm subbed to, this one is at least top 5. never knew shit about roman history and never really wanted to study it until i stumbled upon HC, where every new upload is cause for celebration. keep it up man, you're doing great, hope you rightfully become the most popular history channel on yt
Which other channels would you rate as top 5? I'm always looking for more history on YT:)
@@irmsurr56 i don't watch that much history on yt, but some of the channels i really enjoy are The Histocrat, History Scope, Kraut and Three Arrows. also Knowing Better, while not strictly a history channel, does a lot of great work demystifying american history
@@ivanklimov7078 Thank you my friend
Simply heaven when Historia Civilis, Epic History TV & Internet Historian all come out with a video in the same week!
Great episode! Agrippa sounds very competent, hope to hear more about him in the next one.
Just want to say I first saw your videos a few years back and I constantly watch them before bed. The narration, music and visuals are so cool, informative and, at times, comical I’m addicted to watching. Thank you 🙏
edit: also *DIES DELTA*
Up till this time that I watched the bit as *AGRIPPA AEDILIS* (Friday 2 OCT, 21: 44 Amsterdam Time, 2022 A.D.)
I never knew this man was not just a Great General.
He also waged a succesful War of Sanitation (multiple exlamation marks).
Please make a video about Agrippa sometime in the foreseeable future.
Agrippa's time as Aedile was something I had no idea of.
Always a treat to get a new HC upload!
This is honestly my favorite content being produced on RUclips. Well worth the wait every time!
I absolutely love your videos. I was waiting eagerly for this saga to continue and when i saw the notification i was thrilled. Hope we won't wait this long again but whatever it takes to put together content like this. Take care, man.
Octavian: Refuses to take part in any battles, raises ludicrously high taxes, aggravates a famine, breaks the Roman Senate's last ounce of fair representation, builds a bunch of cool monuments, becomes one of the most influential men in Rome's entire existence
Agrippa: Amazing general, defeats Boat King, goes into a more in-depth perspective of the mechanisms of warfare than would be popularly held for over a thousand years, builds functioning sewers and supplies all of Rome with clean drinking water, lasting legacy remains specific to the city of Rome
Octavian was wise to employ Agrippa.
He was like Caesar’s Labinus.
This a tainted perspectives. Only a few historian have the Octavian hate boner. This minority view is the one presented here.
Oh im sure the most succesful roman leader/emperor and greatest politician in probably history was just a chump... Historia civilis hate boner is really skewing peoples perspective
You guys have a love boner for the term "hate boner."
@@andrewbreadholm5715 octavian hasn't done much yet besides cause widespread death for personal gain so far, if he died in this video or the next he'd be completely forgotten.
Let’s goooooo. It’s always a great day when there’s a new Historia Civilis video
Literally the best history channel on RUclips! Always look forward to videos by you and at the end of each I always feel very informed. The history of Rome through your lens really is eye opening! Keep it up
This content you publish on roman history and beyond, is likely the content i enjoy the most on all of RUclips. Thank you for all your hard work!!
You say that Octavian wanted to reach the Danube, but only managed to reach the Sava. The river you highlight is the Drava, the Sava is to the south of it.
I occasionally rewatch Historia Civillis because it relaxes me, and a few hours ago I started having pain from a kidney stone (I hope) and he puts out a new episode to sooth me
I rewatch every video through anytime a new one comes out.
now you just need to put out the kidney stone
sorry
Caesars little adventures are genuinley thrilling, and they're just little coloured squares!
These are some of the best videos on RUclips, thank you so much for your hard work and effort
I remember watching this guy as a kid! Haven’t seen anything in years, and now here you are!!! Literally made my day❤
Another good one! As expected. Historia Civilis videos are so minimalistic in presentation but so maximalist in detail.
That's a great to put it! Also he infuses so much personality in these square representations of real people!
A blessing from the Lord!
Yessss! Came to the channel to rewatch the Caesar timeline but holy smokes there's a new video!
Thank you for the dedication. These videos opened up a whole new era of history for me to enjoy. Just bought the Gaullic Wars by the man himself
I love this channel. The narration, the details, the GEOMETRY! I wish more history would be told like this.
My two favorite channels (Internet Historian and this channel) have now posted videos this week! This is Amazing!
I love the Agrippa sound so much.
your uploads are the most pleasant surprise in my sub box. i can’t get enough of the roman empire
Thank you so much for this channel! History and geography have always been my worst and least favorite subjects. Starting at the beginning of civilization with your playlist, I have somehow managed to retain a huge amount of detail that I never thought possible.
I am very excited to see what happens next, because honestly I only have some vague notions of how things go until the 18th century.
Ive said it before, but I'll say it again, I love these videos about this period in history. I only know what I know thanks to Robert Graves' novels 'I, Claudius' and 'Claudius the God'. Being novels, I always thought that much of the content was simply fictional drama, but these videos are revealing that, though that content might be fictional, it was no more dramatic than the reality... and some of it wasn't as fictional as I first believed!
OMG! I see over 2000 viewers waiting to see this.
When Historia Civilis posts a new video - a lot of us will drop everything to watch!
Perfect timing, just found this channel binged a bunch of episodes up to this point and the next one might be uploaded when I’m back from basic training!
I’m getting sober and these videos are reanimating my love of history especially Roman. Thanks 🙏🏻
This channel is SO great, thanks for all the hard work you do.
Seriously. This video had me hooked so well I couldn't believe 25 minutes had passed when it ended.
I've also listened to his Trial of Charles I video like 10 times at this point
Some say after Cesar and Pompey stopped powering aqueducts due to Antony’s blunders, Agrippa kept them powered by his sheer rotational velocity alone during his campaigns. Some say, in his grave, he is still at 600 rpm even to this day.
Just wanna say love your videos, have watched every video on your channel, your telling of the whole Roman republic period so far is the best on RUclips, you go into like such interesting weird details that no one else touches on, love it, looking forward for the next one!
Just happened to look you back up to see.if anything new was posted... I wasn't disappointed! Awesome!!
So weird, I was thinking about your channel, I made a coffee and came to watch about Caeser and wondering when you'll upload a new video. Thank you SO much! Still waiting for that Machiavelli and Florence series though ; )
Best wishes from Argentina!
Man, the video is a 10, as always, but the letter from Mark Anthony was just an 11, for that moments this is the BEST history channel, by far. THANK YOU
Oh yes... finally. I saw this on patreon and couldnt wait to see it again here. Thank you HC!
He uploads his video earlier on patreon?
@@abdulrahmanalzaidi yep
@@Whoami691 News to me
Another masterpiece of a video! I hope you know how much we appreciate your work, it truly is incredible!
Agrippa is literally the GOAT. He was modern in both military tactics and administrative tactics.
I loved the last few videos on the Congress of Viene but hearing you talk about Rome just feels right. Thank you HC!
What a treat to see a new Historia Civilis video!
Really respect Agrippa after watching this video. Had never heard of him before this, and now I really admire him. Thanks for sharing! Pls keep the videos coming. This is such an enjoyable series
Agrippa is my favourite acoustic person