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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2022
  • Visit www.montanaknifecompany.com for the drop on 09/08/22
    We are very excited about release of our collaboration with Montana Knife Co. This has been over a year in the works and we are expecting the launch to generate a lot of excitement. Josh Smith, Kevin Estela and Mike Glover worked together to design an EDC knife that is just as capable for defense as it is for bushcraft and MKC did a fabulous job bringing that creation to life.
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Комментарии • 204

  • @ghosttownmetalworks5068
    @ghosttownmetalworks5068 Год назад +7

    Missed this batch the first round (sold out in 2 min!). Excited to hear they are restocking soon. Everyone commenting on pricing obviously is unaware of the time not only going into actually making each one, but the planning time involved. Also - we are all preaching to support small businesses. Here are two small businesses in the USA- Montana and Utah- that can be supported with one purchase, with a knife that will outlive you as an heirloom because it's so well made with such good materials, and it may save a life some day. I've been following MKC for a year or so, and that company never ceases to amaze me. My husband has multiple knives of theirs and I can guarantee they are worth every penny. This was a great Collab with tons of thought put into the design. 👏💪🔥

  • @kentac1911
    @kentac1911 7 месяцев назад +1

    I learned about these knives while attending Kevin's survival course a while back. I Just received mine today for Christmas. My daughter has had hers for a few months now. Amazing quality in these knives! Very durable, feels great in the hand, and stays sharp. Was extremely sharp out of the box!! A great knife is a must have item.

  • @virtual812
    @virtual812 Год назад +29

    'Everyday' also implies accessible and affordable in my opinion.
    At a >USD$300 price point this is more of a collectable or well off gear head's toy than an everyday tool.
    I might cop shit for this, but it's just one mans opinion.

    • @cocovasquez1
      @cocovasquez1 Год назад

      I agree

    • @JR-rp7vr
      @JR-rp7vr Год назад +1

      YUP! Pay 80 bucks for a Benchmade and you're set!

    • @jwalesoutlaw3294
      @jwalesoutlaw3294 24 дня назад

      Everyday means you can use it everyday. It implies zero in terms of affordability

  • @larrypezza9509
    @larrypezza9509 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nice knife love the crossed arrows

  • @robbychism
    @robbychism 4 месяца назад +1

    I have been carrying and using one of these all for seasons now and i will say, love the design. The sheath is the real winner here... the overall design of this package is outstanding and very well thought out. Disappears under a t shirt and you always have a reliable tool on you that is quick and easy to deploy. I will be looking for a 2nd one in magnacut

  • @MidNightsHunter
    @MidNightsHunter 4 месяца назад +1

    Impressive knife, sheath & American collaboration! The beauty of Form defined by function & force

  • @matthewblumenthal804
    @matthewblumenthal804 Год назад +19

    I've been a fan of Smith since before he started the company. His knives are incredible. Way too rich for my blood. I'll be getting the Fieldcraft knife when I'm able. Good on ya!

  • @shramj
    @shramj Год назад +2

    I love the design of it. The thought process reminds me of how my Winkler knives are, they have a practical simple design, everything that works, nothing that doesn't.

  • @Fightosaurus
    @Fightosaurus Год назад +1

    Extremely clean and practical design. Reminds me a lot of Loveless patterns. Gotta pick one of these up!

  • @archaichobo6969
    @archaichobo6969 Год назад +4

    This would be a nice little companion knife for my Esee 6. Very nice.

  • @blakenelson5590
    @blakenelson5590 Год назад +5

    I would love to get one but the price is just to much.

  • @vincedagiel3905
    @vincedagiel3905 Год назад +3

    Good looking blade with many well thought out features. It’s similar to some of the knives I already use but I’ll likely be getting one.

  • @robbychism
    @robbychism Год назад +1

    I'm immediately interested whenever I see Kevin's name attached to a blade. Looks like this one is another winner, it's on my list.

  • @TheWestboom
    @TheWestboom Год назад +5

    I love that it doesn't have a sharpening choil to get snagged while cutting, great design and steel choice.well done 🤙🏼

  • @bigsky2111
    @bigsky2111 Год назад +3

    To everyone saying that they won't sell or are too expensive the drop just happened and they sold out in less than 2 minutes.

  • @epm357
    @epm357 Год назад +11

    Gotta have a finger guard or no deal. $150 would be plenty for this. I'll keep my Tops Silent Hero 4.

    • @superkool7
      @superkool7 Год назад +1

      Tops is great, but not even in the same sport friend. These are designed and forged and produced by a master bladesmith. I love tops too but it’s a totally different thing.

  • @mikelonde9567
    @mikelonde9567 Год назад +3

    I agree with the comments on price but also agree that the blade smith needs to make reasonable profit. I would love to own one but being older and retired I will have to lust from afar.

  • @Bsquared1972
    @Bsquared1972 Год назад +5

    Nice knife, but I'll stick with my ESEE JG3 for my EDC....great knife at 1/3 of the price.

  • @groundfog
    @groundfog Год назад

    Sweet blade!

  • @Victor-hb4hj
    @Victor-hb4hj Год назад +1

    Thanks Kevin

  • @ZeroCool2013
    @ZeroCool2013 Год назад +2

    That's perfect, I've been lookin at getting one just like this.
    Looked at a few collapsible knives and just don't trust them for several reasons.

  • @bsmithhammer
    @bsmithhammer Год назад +7

    I have more knives than I can probably count, from many famous makers, and this design really gets me excited, and I love all the thought that has gone into this. Kudos for a practical design that isn't a giant 'sharpened pry bar.' 👍

  • @unfi6798
    @unfi6798 2 месяца назад

    The best from the best with the best.!

  • @Adventurer-1971
    @Adventurer-1971 Год назад

    Awesome

  • @ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210
    @ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210 Год назад +1

    Totally agree with the importance of a well-designed sheath. I was looking recently for a bushcraft knife and had to reject a lot of really good knives due to the badly designed sheaths.

  • @osker4738
    @osker4738 Год назад +1

    Looks similar to the CRKT biwa only around $250 more. I'll stick with the CRKT because I actually use it for birds and trout.

  • @-hawtzauce-1108
    @-hawtzauce-1108 Год назад +1

    @ 1:32 Not gonna lie knowing a knife is a "tool" but seeing that fine edge on fero rod gave me the 😬

  • @gregtennyson
    @gregtennyson Год назад +23

    Am I the only one that was hoping he was gonna use the knife to pop the tire?

    • @shanecateriny4359
      @shanecateriny4359 Год назад +3

      You are not alone brother

    • @Cgny
      @Cgny Год назад +1

      Woulda been a great ending to show product capability

    • @jcfindley380
      @jcfindley380 Год назад +1

      You are NOT alone.

  • @nathanielbareham6101
    @nathanielbareham6101 Год назад +1

    Not going to say it's overpriced, a custom knifemaker can place dozens of hours into a single blade. This looks like a handy bird/trout knife.
    However there are many blades (custom/factory) that may offer comparable steels at more affordable options. LT Wright, White River Knives, TOPS, etc.

  • @wadehampton1737
    @wadehampton1737 Год назад +2

    Get back to me when you do a collab with Kershaw and the price becomes realistic.

  • @L330ne
    @L330ne Год назад +2

    Looks nice. But I wonder if it will beat my pioneer women pairing knife.

  • @whiterabit09
    @whiterabit09 Год назад +1

    Looks like a really nice quality steak knife

  • @sonofablitch
    @sonofablitch 8 месяцев назад

    Used it the other day on a deer! Amazing!!!

  • @modernviking9001
    @modernviking9001 Год назад +4

    My lord !! 300 plus !! That has to be a400% mark up, geez. I can’t see it being better than a Bradford Knife and the are much cheaper….

    • @superkool7
      @superkool7 Год назад

      Because you get what you pay for friend

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 23 дня назад

      400% markup? Tell us you don't know anything about magnacut and small business craftsmanship without saying it...

  • @wylecuplin3044
    @wylecuplin3044 Год назад +2

    Absolutely love MKC, I have a few of his knives and can’t wait to add this one… I missed the first release but will catch the next one. 👍👍

  • @superkool7
    @superkool7 Год назад +2

    I got mine in the mail yesterday. I’m a collector of high end blades. Routinely 700 and up. I can say honestly, this is one of the most beautiful, well balanced, well crafted, sharpest out of the box knives I have ever had the pleasure of owning. To be totally honest, at a 325 price, MKC are the ones taking a loss. This knife is worth WAY more than 325. I see blades like routinely go for 700+. If you have a chance to buy it, BUY IT. I also carried it all day today, and had zero issues with comfortability. Even when sitting in the car. And seriously, this is my 3rd MKC blade and DEFINITELY not the last. If you are on the fence, try to trust me as much as you can, this is a no brainer buy guys

  • @alexanderd.9460
    @alexanderd.9460 Год назад

    I'll take the tan and black!

  • @otisbaker6237
    @otisbaker6237 Год назад +1

    Too much for cpm 154 I can get a full size Chris Reeve with better steel for that.

  • @brandong2040
    @brandong2040 Год назад +7

    It's a good looking knife! $325 for CPM 154? That's way overpriced.

    • @kreevisful
      @kreevisful Год назад +1

      Facts

    • @superkool7
      @superkool7 Год назад

      You’re paying for the craftsmanship first and foremost friend

    • @brandong2040
      @brandong2040 Год назад

      As an example, you can get a US made Bradford Guardian in M390 for half the price. It's a comparable blade style in a far superior steel. What objective value would this knife have over the Bradford? Fully willing to admit I could be missing something here.

  • @johncarpenter6219
    @johncarpenter6219 Год назад +10

    Actually thought about grabbing one, until I saw the price…🙄🤦‍♂️

  • @carloscaballerodetineo4062
    @carloscaballerodetineo4062 7 дней назад

    Los mejores,💪👍👏👏👏🇦🇷

  • @Slave-nl8xn
    @Slave-nl8xn Год назад

    Nice.

  • @rom14141
    @rom14141 Год назад +1

    Looks good to me. Hope your sales exceed expectations.

    • @superkool7
      @superkool7 Год назад +1

      Oh they did! All three variants sold out in less than 10 seconds no shit

  • @JACKBLACKTOSE
    @JACKBLACKTOSE Год назад +1

    For a handmade/finished blade the price doesn't surprise me a lot, but there are a lot of other U.S. manufacturers putting out great products at lower price points. Chris Reeves, L.T. Wright, White River Knives, etc.
    Not trying to downplay, this is a good looking blade, but if you're looking for a fixed blade do your due diligence and explore the market. As with many things, there is a point of diminishing returns. For must of us here I'd expect a $30 Mora will handle most of your tasks

  • @shramj
    @shramj 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome blade but I think a 2nd version should be made. Have a true 90 degree spine and also a sheath that allows scout carry. I think those two things would complete the "Bush Craft" aspect to an already awesome blade. I think that would make this one of the most rounded knifes out there. Maybe also had a loop on the sheath that can be used to either hold a ferro rod or a place to attach 550 cord.

  • @kumarsalib722
    @kumarsalib722 Год назад +2

    The price of this knife makes it a luxury item, not a tool or EDC. I'm sure they'll find good homes.

  • @rickdunbar2319
    @rickdunbar2319 Год назад

    Looks very similar to the White river hunter.

  • @jjcrazylegs7081
    @jjcrazylegs7081 7 месяцев назад

    wrinkler knives are the best!

  • @HalloweenStalker666
    @HalloweenStalker666 Год назад

    Does the clip come off the sheath? And why cpm 154? Overall. I like it.

  • @keithsargent6963
    @keithsargent6963 7 месяцев назад +1

    For $325 you can buy a lot of mora knives for bush crafting.

  • @Last_Chance.
    @Last_Chance. Год назад +2

    if you want to do a giveaway I would love to have one. I was going to order a black one when they came back in stock but unfortunately I cannot afford it.

  • @plaguesofwrath
    @plaguesofwrath Год назад +1

    Nice looking knife, but the price is too high and Kydex sheath is a no-go for me. If it was 1/3 the price and had an option for a leather sheath I’d snag it up.

  • @Victor-hb4hj
    @Victor-hb4hj Год назад +3

    Where is the divit for bow drill? Can it be carried horizontally?

  • @JOJO-kh9ck
    @JOJO-kh9ck Год назад

    Hey man ... Knife looks cool... I have a question...will it be durable enough to handle some tough tasks ??? Can i use it regularly in the woods for bushcraft/survival??

  • @SparkySezz
    @SparkySezz Год назад

    Every knife on their website says ‘Restocking Soon’. Every knife??? Guess hubby doesn’t get to have this knife lol

  • @jcfindley380
    @jcfindley380 Год назад

    But but but, I don't carry an EDC pribar and sometimes I need a pribar.

  • @seanwhite304
    @seanwhite304 Год назад +4

    Oh man Josh is a beast . I have one of his Blackfoot knives . They are so bad ass..
    I've been US small Arms and blade geek my whole life..
    This blade resembles Bark River ADVENTURER II and the sheath resembles Amtac NORTHMAN. Def picking up one of these Montana / Fieldcraft Blades

  • @gustavodlhm
    @gustavodlhm Год назад

    Hi Fieldcraft crew any chance you could give us some edc suggestions for a husband/father living in a notoriously dangerous city (Tijuana) where you can't legally carry.

    • @isaacdrake
      @isaacdrake Год назад

      Look up yawara sticks (and make your own).

  • @bserieshatch1
    @bserieshatch1 Год назад +1

    So I would have to give up a Bradford guardian, an esee, and handful of moras to offset the cost. Pass.

  • @sicsempertyrannis9224
    @sicsempertyrannis9224 Год назад

    Too bad I live is Cali and can’t legally conceal a fixed blade. Wouldn’t want to open carry this as it would attract too much attention. Might get one for camping though!

    • @savvycivvy5644
      @savvycivvy5644 Год назад

      You can, so long as it’s not concealed.

  • @SteveNigglechunks
    @SteveNigglechunks Год назад +1

    Sold out in less than 5 minutes. Congrats but man, alot of people paid alot for not much knife

    • @ttattx
      @ttattx Год назад +2

      Only had two in inventory 😂

  • @tbaylo4034
    @tbaylo4034 Год назад

    1:32 Why are we using the blade to strike the ferro rod instead of the spine?!?

  • @Kojikisun
    @Kojikisun Год назад

    Love that you called out the folding knife's at the end. I skip right past them in any store and only look for full tang fixed blades preferably hand crafted. Theirs zero comfort derived from knowing that the only reason your fingers didnt get sliced up is due to a thin peice of metal shim holding the blade up from folding. That & Ive had folding knifes break off from simply widdling away at sticks. Great video / Knife collab.

  • @kreevisful
    @kreevisful Год назад +7

    325?
    😆

  • @andrewwinchel4659
    @andrewwinchel4659 Год назад

    Right.... all you have on your site is t-shirts... when are you getting knives, and how much?

  • @coryclark9259
    @coryclark9259 Год назад +3

    Do yourself a favor and trash those titanium screws and replace them with stainless. Signed a Mechanical Engineer.
    Semper Fi

  • @Last_Chance.
    @Last_Chance. Год назад +79

    I love the knife and was 100% going to buy one until I found out they cost $325 a piece. I understand you pay for quality but that's to rich for my blood

    • @bigsky2111
      @bigsky2111 Год назад +7

      I have a Beartooth and a buddy has a SuperCub they are 100% worth their asking price.

    • @Rchan925
      @Rchan925 Год назад +8

      Lol yeaa for that price I'll get a tops knife and they are over built and less expensive

    • @shramj
      @shramj Год назад +6

      If it's a knife you are going to carry for the rest of your life, then that price isn't bad, you also get what you pay for. I personally have spent way over that trying to find the perfect EDC knife but to each their own.

    • @TheRogerKyle
      @TheRogerKyle Год назад +14

      Agreed, nothing about this knife makes it worth three times the price of a Ontario rat

    • @Last_Chance.
      @Last_Chance. Год назад +3

      ​@@bigsky2111 if you are wealthy enough to afford it then yes it is

  • @Zaque-TV
    @Zaque-TV Год назад

    Bro youtube unsubbed me from this channel wtf. Well I'm back thx for the content

  • @cwprinting
    @cwprinting Год назад

    Why no jimping on the spine near the handle scales?

  • @CannaColeman
    @CannaColeman Год назад +1

    Dag went over to buy a couple of knives. But every single knife on the site is out of stock

  • @ChipSpencer123
    @ChipSpencer123 Год назад

    What kind of outdoors work can it handle? Can it cut a seat belt?

    • @mplslawnguy3389
      @mplslawnguy3389 10 месяцев назад +1

      Not a bad idea to have a seat belt cutter and window punch in your center console, or find a knife that can do both. A good serrated blade can cut through a windshield.

  • @SparkSurvival
    @SparkSurvival Год назад

    Been making and designing knives for over a decade. Truth is, most people do not carry fixed blade as a tool. They only see a knife as a weapon. They seem to think it's either illegal or too cumbersome.
    There's things I'd have incorporated in design which I've learned through hard use. One is a slightly exposed pommel to steak it in and separate firewood. People often say not to use a knife like a pry bar, I say need and ingenuity drive design. So get out of that thinking and design the knife around the way YOU use it. That's exactly why I make my own. But what does a guy know if he's not recognized by a guild, haha.

  • @jessegoodyear5547
    @jessegoodyear5547 Год назад

    Anyone conceal rear carry a knife horizontally? what are you using?

  • @anthonymusso5282
    @anthonymusso5282 Год назад

    This end user needs the sheath to be ambidextrous, im left handed and i like wearing my fixed blade on right side, sharp edge forward

  • @trevermccall6762
    @trevermccall6762 Год назад

    👍

  • @Millertime118
    @Millertime118 Год назад

    Left handed sheath available?

  • @thomasmclennon4746
    @thomasmclennon4746 Год назад +1

    Y'all know this is a paring knife, right?

  • @IlovemySubaru
    @IlovemySubaru Год назад

    Mike I gotta ask you about this credit card deal. Apparently big credit card companies are denying the purchase of fire arms. Visa and Master card and I think one other company. So in retail ever item has a code for that item. Store’s like PSA and others gun shops are not in that category yet. The government (DEMS) is changing this category so every time you try to purchase a fire arm it will be red flagged. Please let me know what you think about this?

    • @IlovemySubaru
      @IlovemySubaru Год назад

      Mike can you answer the question for me Sir?

  • @jackhammer2597
    @jackhammer2597 Год назад

    Ya'll act like Josh is hammer forging each blade , even lt. Wright and bark river don't have balls that big. Fieldcraft survival the jordache of edc.

  • @ferrumchnop6617
    @ferrumchnop6617 Год назад +3

    Gonna have a hard time in the market at that price. Looks to be a well thought out design, though i wish it would be something like magnacut steel especially being so thin.

    • @bigsky2111
      @bigsky2111 Год назад +1

      Not really MKC does a drop almost every Thursday and they sell out completely every week in 7-10 minutes after release. I think the fastest sold out release was 4 minutes.

    • @seaghan
      @seaghan Год назад

      MKC continuously sells out in minutes, this will go quickly as well. I agree I think the price point should be lower, $225 would've been a much better price point but I suppose the FieldCraft collab add's tax on it. Still will be an exceptional blade for anyone looking to purchase a knife from a master bladesmith and clearly someone that care's about their craft/product.

    • @ChrisRaaymakers
      @ChrisRaaymakers Год назад

      Sold out in less than a min

  • @davidhutchison7567
    @davidhutchison7567 Год назад +1

    Its a paring knife bro. I love you all but thats what it is.

  • @DingoOG
    @DingoOG Год назад +2

    52100 steel for 300$?! Maybe a kidney on top?

  • @Onyx408
    @Onyx408 Год назад +1

    I don’t want to hate but It looks like every single bushcraft knife ever 😂

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 23 дня назад

      Except most bushcraft knives are not in magnacut.

  • @spektr540hemi
    @spektr540hemi Год назад

    Looks like a sweet knife, except...
    Without a prominent lower finger guard/hilt it would not work for me.
    If I ever had to stab with it, I would NOT have confidence that my XXL hands would not slip onto the edge. Hilts do not impede cutting for me because they rarely hang lower than the thickness of my fingers anyhow.
    I am sure many folks will love it. Color me jealous !

  • @ttattx
    @ttattx Год назад +1

    And these guys would have you believe they sold out of the “private reserve” in a hour. Was that an inventory of 2-3 pcs.? Seems comments would suggest no one can afford or want an overpriced edc

  • @kylepeters6316
    @kylepeters6316 Год назад

    I love the design, but this is basically a longer, thinner, way more expensive version of the Esee Izula with worse scales

  • @gregstudeny1680
    @gregstudeny1680 Год назад +1

    I would not spend this much on a knife I intend to subject to hard use.

  • @danieldaniel7724
    @danieldaniel7724 Год назад +1

    I got a kitchen knife from Walmart looks like that! Cool I got a deal

  • @keelanmiles240B
    @keelanmiles240B Год назад +3

    If I had a dollar for every firearm and training company that had "their" knife for sale I would be a rich man.
    So is a small knife with a kydex sheath. I am sure I could get one of similar quality for less and still be USA made. If you are going to say it's a great knife show a knife of similar quality and yours in action to show why yours is better.

    • @jackryan9710
      @jackryan9710 Год назад

      Sheesh, Keelan has spoken! Hey Fieldcraft, I don’t think this guy is very impressed with your product. You better do what he says otherwise you might not get his approval…

    • @keelanmiles240B
      @keelanmiles240B Год назад

      @@jackryan9710 yeah I am sure that's going to happen.

    • @jackryan9710
      @jackryan9710 Год назад

      @@keelanmiles240B yeah nobody gives a flip what you think.

  • @Sprice93USAF
    @Sprice93USAF Год назад +2

    Hate to break it to you but AMTAC blades all ready makes the ideal EDC fixed blade.

  • @bokusworld9780
    @bokusworld9780 Год назад

    OOh, Mike isn’t hosting this video? I’M OUT 😎 I only stay on for Mike and that pretty lady.

  • @rueridge7597
    @rueridge7597 Год назад +2

    Decent but can get lot more for the money elsewhere. You’re going to pay large premium for anything associated with Fieldcraft Survival name on it. Like $40 tourniquet carriers 🤣🤣

  • @josephvalinski849
    @josephvalinski849 Год назад +1

    $300+ for CPM 154?😬 I'd rather buy a Bark River in CPM 3v or cruwear.

  • @johnwebb9225
    @johnwebb9225 Год назад +3

    Is it true this knife is over $300?
    Gonna have to upgrade the steel substantially to justify that kinda price. Otherwise it looks like a really great design. Another thing on the sheath though. Folks with sheaths that posture the handle above the waste are usually folks who's knives sit on the shelf.
    Drop it down then put on a dangler.

  • @Gridlivin
    @Gridlivin Год назад +1

    Nobody waste their time by going to Montana Knife Company’s website. They don’t have ANYTHING in stock at all. Who knows when they’ll get more inventory

  • @11BADV
    @11BADV Год назад +2

    Nah, appreciate the knife but too expensive. Knock a benny off and you have something.

  • @Jack-oz4bf
    @Jack-oz4bf Год назад +3

    I saw one of those field Craft survival bags which is extremely overpriced. I can go to Walmart and get the same duffel bag for 1/4 of the price of the field Craft survival bag. Same thing with this knife I don't know the price of it yet but I bet you I can get the same knife that can do the same things for a fraction of the price of this knife. I would love to support veteran companies but Jesus man you guys mark up your items so high.

    • @BRpunkRock
      @BRpunkRock Год назад +1

      $325.00! 😳

    • @mplslawnguy3389
      @mplslawnguy3389 10 месяцев назад

      There are people that buy this stuff. People with disposable income and who want all the best looking gear. You know the types. Most people can get by going to Walmart of Fleetfarm for their stuff.

  • @ColinAllanPhoto
    @ColinAllanPhoto Год назад

    Shame only in North America I have given up trying to get them to ship to the UK

  • @wsyocum
    @wsyocum Год назад +2

    Nope

  • @jedmassey
    @jedmassey Год назад +1

    Never use your knife as a pry bar? Try the bk2