The cons listed for walking and cycling are attributes of the car dependent environment. It's not hard to imagine a world with less driving. It's hard to for people to sacrifice convenience and pleasure.
So fun part, when things are closer they're more convenient to get to, car or no car. You can also replace the cars with slow and small light electric vehicles if you really want to keep microcars.
I lived in a 15 city. Haarlem, The Netherlands. I was born and now live again in a very not 15 minute city in Canada. Both places are very expensive. Not needing a car at all was awesome.
I know about Haarlem mainly because of Corrie ten Boom and her stories about the Dutch resistance. Her descriptions of pre-1945 Haarlem with them biking everywhere was very pleasing to think of.
@@americandirt7834 A good example of that is Denmark. Taxes on cars are gigantic. Almost all my friends in Denmark do not own cars. The difference is that alternatives are available. More choice is what we need in North America.
@@gdemorest7942 Sounds great. But it also sounds like the Danes are forced into other alternatives because cars are made unnaturally expensive. For a country as rich as Denmark, a car shouldn't be out of reach of most households. And, even if the public transit system is terrific, it can never replicate the almost unlimited possibilities of a privately owned car. I'd say we have far more choice than the Danes. That was also my experience having visited Copenhagen. Loved the biking culture. But you can't just randomly bike 25 miles away on a whim. And Denmark doesn't have the greatest weather in the world.
@@americandirt7834 You are correct. No one in Denmark or Holland would think about riding 25 miles on a regular everyday bicycle. I did it once while living in Holland and the Dutch people I knew thought I was weird. Like you said, it is all about alternatives. I loved having a car in Holland and so do my Danish friends in Denmark, we just don't have to drive it that much.
One of the hottest takes I have is that we should have “more” cities rather than larger ones. Just a bunch of small to medium cities or towns connected by public transit.
Yeah, I see what you mean. I've lived in several large expensive cities. Idon't particularly like big cities but I do so because the areas around them are not conducive to my work and life. The suburbs are a non-starter for me. They are either so anti-social and inhumanly designed that I wouldn't live there even for free, or they're quaint and cute, and filled with racists, fascists, and the "apolitical." It would be much better for everyone if these places didn't exist, and instead the areas outside places like New York or LA were human-scale, organized around transit, cycling, and mobility accessibility as a rule. Rather than LA country sprawling over thousands of square miles as it does today, the same number of people could live in a decentralized grid of mid-sized cities that allow 15-minute living at each node in the grid and easy access to every other node without significant hierarchy. Then most of the county could be re-naturalized and de-sprawled. When everywhere is a good place to live and nowhere is uniquely privileged housing and infrastructural pressure is significantly reduced. We would still need massive investments in social housing, transit, etc., and the abolition of landlords though.
After growing up in Florida for 25 years and finally living in a "15 minute city" (by bike) with a Walk Score of 90+, you can't convince me to live in a car-dependent neighborhood again. I've tried to convince carbrain friends to just bike to the grocery store and can't even get them to do that. Americans are almost too far gone for changing these habits unless we have a legit gas shortage.
@@NA-en7kz I live on my own, but it should not really change many things. You just need to prepare more. For a family, I could just find a bigger apartment or house rental slightly farther away in my city. Cargo bikes can cover the burden of getting kids or large amounts of groceries around town. My city is small enough to bike across in 20 minutes and have a minimal bus service if needed too.
@@GirtonOramsay It does change things though. I like the idea. I like it a lot actually. But I've also seen how it is used to gentrify a quarter of the entire city space, in the name of pursuing the 15-minute city plan. I also see how they actively discourage personal property ownership. "Just let us take care of that for you" And it has a lot of perks. I just don't see those perks outweighing the cons.
@@NA-en7kz I am married and have one child. I do not own a car. I walk to work and live 3 miles away from work. I do have the opportunity to work from home 3 days a week. Yes, it takes more planning to do things but the fact I can do this in Charlotte which doesn't score so well in walkability should show that much of the problem is inherent with the populations in said cities.
@@BaystheBeast It really is a mentality thing. Despite having more free time than ever before, we continue to find ways to remain rushed. I think reducing the perceived "need" to have a car to get anything done would do wonders to slow things down for us, make life more enjoyable, and help open us to new solutions or views on existing conditions. That said, I don't think that the 15-minute city is the solution. I think it would make things worse, primarily our mental health. I think our work-life balance, as a whole, would take a hit. Working less than 15 minutes away from home makes it easy to be called in for anything, it becomes more likely that you would bring work home, either a portion of your literal workload or the mentality of work.
You have to incentivise other means of transportation rather than banning cars and oil. Because that's simply never going to fly with the majority of the American people.
We as Americans have become spoiled in car based society, so much so that we forget that there have been entire great civilizations that lived in small condensed (walk-able) regions. We act like a 15 minute city is strange, but in actuality its our sprawled our communities that are not the norm. It is NOT normal for us to live so far apart from each other.
It's a huge factor in the rise of depression among the youth. They no longer have autonomy. They're not safe riding their bikes to school, or over to a friends house. It's either too dangerous, too far, or both...its usually both.
@🃏 [JWO] Lonlon XxstealsyohamzxX cars. Cars have made our cities incredibly unsafe. Especially now that the trucks have gotten bigger, and bigger, and bigger.
@@SalsaSippin_ my uncle got hit by any elder driver while being on a bike lanes, and I could imagine the chaos the car operator without any driving license or test would do...
8:15 that’s such a middle school idea. I talked bout this with my friends when we were like 13 and we came to the conclusion that if people flying around was viable everyone would have a helicopter already instead of a car. We also wondered what would happen if you crashed in the sky would the cars just fall on people below. We though yes. They are Litteraly appealing to people who don’t think
If you live in a place that is car dependent, there's a cost involved. My car is totally paid off, gets good mileage, is low maintenance, and it still costs me about $4000 a year to own. That's a 10% pay cut I take every year just for living in a car dependent city. And I make what I consider a decent income. If you make minimum wage, you'd lose over a quarter of your income just getting to work and back. It's ridiculous.
@@oggyreidmore Yup. $4000 is normal. My insurance was nearly a grand and I was paying $30/week in gas, that's roughly $2500 right there. With car prices going up and car repairs becoming more expensive as well, insurance will keep creeping up no matter what you drive.
I work construction i need my car for work, i cant carry my tools on a train or a bus what if i need to run to the parts store to get materials to finish the job, it dosent benefit everyone
You know... watching this made me realize that in the current day europe does social experimentation while the US does economic experimentation. It used to be that you went to the us to avoid social stigmas and have greater economic potential. Now you leave the US to avoid social stigmas and go to the US if you have a new idea for a scam or exploitative business.
Just a fact that europe is full a 15 minute cities, becouse they old and was builded when car not exist, especially in italy a lot of streets very narrow, in some places impossible to use car. So its not experiment, its real norm
If you want to be both socially stigmatized AND fleeced by charlatans, move literally anywhere in the U.S. South hahah. Whole damn region is run by con artists and grifters, in both the public and private sectors.
@@alister_kroulenkoWe very much had car centric cities 50 years ago thank you very much. We simply changed that because it was killing people, and we didn't like people being killed for the sake of some stupid travel mode. So we started fixing our problems without making cars less usable. Which was how we ended up with safe bike / walking distance oriented cities.
@@hungrymusicwolf50 years ago but not 500 years ago. Many cities have city centers that were built up around streets that have been in the same place (and, notably, width) for centuries.
@@asongfromunderthefloorboardsMost of our cities are not old city centers from 500 years ago. We had the same car centric problem until not long ago, but we went at it and solved it. That's how you see the much more livable cities today. It's not a holdover from 500 years ago. Barely a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of our country is that old and beautiful as it may be it doesn't hold the many a millions of people our country has. Cities designed in modern day do.
For a lot of the city, yes, but you do also have to worry about being mowed down by terrible drivers or deal with excruciating transit times in certain neighborhoods.
There is no way to make a "15-minute" city with transportation. To realize this, you need to live within 3 minutes (200m/500ft) from a station/bus stop, your destination need to be within 3 minutes, waiting time within 3 minutes (3-5 minute frequency), and 6 minutes transit time (at 30mph -> 3miles/5km).
I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. They are planning a 15-minute city here. There are problems with this here: - neighborhood bus stops have been eliminated in many areas… making it almost impossible to get around. Seniors and disabled people are now stuck in their homes, without a way to get around. - there are only a few hospitals in the city so getting to a hospital can cost you your life in an emergency when ambulances are not available and you cannot get a taxi for whatever reason (cost/availability/no phone service etc) - transit safety is a huge issue with the frequent attacks on innocent passengers and bystanders with inadequate policing available - we have winter conditions here for more than half a year so walking and riding a bike (even for athletic people) is nearly impossible, and sidewalks are not navigable by disabled people. - most jobs are usually the furthest from your home as they may be the only jobs available - rents are often higher than mortgages in some areas so sharing rental spaces of convenience for travel and close convenience for work/shopping is not an option - many businesses we relied on for our livelihood and purchased goods from closed down during Covid and have never returned - our mayor and city council are trying to discourage car traffic but they get $1200/$600+ respectively each for their own transportation costs monthly - schools are not centralized here. Elementary schools, high schools, colleges and universities are in all areas of the city so getting a family of kids to school on time cannot be realistically undertaken, while still getting to work on time - light rail transit takes decades to plan and build. Houses have to be torn down in order to build it. The previous mayor told me it would take 50 years until I could get to work this way. I would be dead before it was ever realized. So… I don’t think it will easily work here. I guess we will see what happens now as it’s being forced on this awkward city.
Hey fellow Edmontonian here. Edmonton suffers from a weird complex of feast and famine as well as mayors who have some really misguided ideas. When oil price is high then the city is flushed with money and then there's money for projects...which they then do things like put a stupid metal baseball bat statue on 97th street. Why? Because the mayor at that time was an ex-football player and was trying to help the impoverished 118 Avenue area. Before our current mayor, the previous mayor imposed bike lanes in downtown and Whyte Avenue by greatly increasing the number of one-way streets and single-lane streets, which just made things inconvenient for auto travellers (we should have just legalized biking on the sidewalk for safety instead). Compare that to how Hong Kong dealt with the newer eastern districts like LOHAS Park, where guarded bike/skate/scooter paths next to walking paths are placed by streets which gives adequate space to all citizens.
Far right kook here. Many of us grew up in what could be considered 15 minute cities. Biggest problem is that we have sold out the working class by exporting good paying manufacturing jobs to the far east. Bring back manufacturing, but build quality product without the planned obsolescence and the waste that results from it. Go back to smaller scale production that can be done in a decentralized manner to reduce both shipping of finished goods and employee commute time.
@kylesmith2145 sarcasm....my beliefs haven't changed much, but ten years ago, I was a centrist. However, I must add that the political party that I support is considered "far right".
I, for one, cannot wait to move to the desert city of Telosa. Where there's just unlimited recycled water and I will have my Chevrolet Skeye (pronounced 'sky'), the newest vertical take off and landing vehicle for families. Which will be used to sit in traffic as me and my Nuclear Family excitedly wait for our turn to get into Disney Telosa.
Flying car? Wait we have that, it is called a Helicopter. People do not realize that cars don't fly for a reason. And Helicopters are expensive and need a train pilot for a reason. There is a city full of Helicopters, it is called São Paulo in Brazil. Dumb ideia. Waste of money.
Do ppl on the actual left usually refer to themselves as leftists? I actually expected this to be Sarcastic because of the term. I feel like ppl on the left tend to use the term progressive for themselves. But I’m out of the loop so idk?
I find it so strange for you to try to force concepts of good urban design into a "leftist" box, and I don't think framing it that way helps the cause at all.
There are “white supremacist” dissident right podcasts that advocate for 15 minute cities and car less streetcar suburbs. Socialist in “national Socialism” actually means socialism and the “far right” conservatives he uses as examples are extremely progressive and liberal. You are absolutely right though.
Problem is with them rehashing the 15 minute idea with travel restrictions. All is good in the urban planning sense but it turns sour once it is about mobility restrictions.
@@illiiilli24601 the London ULEZ is even worse, you get screwed over even driving during non congestion times. The Chinese odd/even/municipality plate restrictions are even worse. You can’t use your car in some major cities during specific days/times.
@@liucyrus22 Agreed. I like the idea of 15 minute cities, but I'm generally against stuff like ULEZ (which aim to solve something different to congestion pricing, which is tailpipe emissions). Too much stick and not enough carrot. I won't start on the odd even one, that is beyond regarded
PTB priorities are demonstrated by the creation of turn-back lanes, checkpoint lighting, surveillance cameras and fiscal penalties you can be sure it is about containment and not healthy living. Bicycle riding in clean air and picnics under the trees are an illusion fostered by the same people who brought you armed riot police harassing old ladies in the park, head-slamming others and firing rubber bullets at lock-down protesters. When the farmer brings in the sheep and clangs the gate shut, that's it, they aren't getting out.
Those odd-even schemes and number coding only made traffic congestion worse. Here in the Philippines, we started to implement it in Metro Manila starting in the 1990s, and people simply bought another car to circumvent the rule, resulting to even more cars. And now Metro Manila loses up to $2-B a year due to traffic congestion.
Pretty sure we disagree on many points, but I'm quite impressed and appreciative of the level of thought, care, and evidentiary support put into your video. I learned something new, and it's inspiring to see solutions enumerated. Very constructive. Thank you!
You, my friend, are a total grift. Why MUST the WEF or anyone 'prevent global disaster' anyhow? Seas rising at 2mm per year, average temperatures increasing 1-2C per century? Humans may be pretty gullible mate, but they are mostly rational, resourceful & apt to employ common-sense. I call BS on your catastrophism & I abhor that you can earn even a single cent of our capitalist money from it. Thumbs-down. Mitch from Australia.
I would love American cities to adopt more of these ideas from Europe. I, as well as many other disabled Americans, cannot drive. It takes me 2 to 2 1/2 hours to reach the larger downtown in my area (Seattle)-and that’s just one way. Which is exhausting.
@@onetwothreeabc because when it costs you 5000 dollars or more to rent an apartment or a house why would you live there? Not only that why would I want to live around a bunch of crackhead homeless people?
nah. 15-minute cities do exist in most countries, they are limited of size, and I live in one, it has a population of 35k people. But you do need to understand one thing about urban planning. Industrial zones will have to be split from trading and housing zones. You can't simply have people living up to workshops with angle grinders and medical production plants that have toxic gasses escaping of something goes wrong. However if you want to scale that up, you do need central lines of transportation, and you do need to give an option for point to point transportation, that is an alternative to a car. A bike can be a good alternative. While you have main lines of transportations there are still places where an individual and not a group needs to reach. However bikes are not that popular in the US, and it seems like it isn't easy to change that (e-bikes could be a solution). As cities become bigger you do get the issue of industrial zones getting bigger and a separate part of town due to the building and zoning requirements. We are talking about production companies, not service companies like an IT company, as they aren't a potential safety or noise hazard if placed in a merchant or mixed district. You could make cities that didn't have production jobs, or specialized health care facilities, but then you are very much limiting the type of people able to live there. 15-minute cities simply aren't that plausible on a scale of people over 500k. The whole idea of cities is to minimize energy expenditure for the individual in the first place, the whole issue of them becoming a mess over time is due to changing requirements and needs. While 15-minutes city in theory could work out, there will undeniable be some change down the road and as a result a rise in entropy (chaos/disorder) due these changes and compromises need to be taken. While the conspiracy theorists may be spinning wild stories, the point is that in Europe, most cities will have your daily needs including your doctor within 15 minutes of travel (on bike). People do locally optimize their living conditions such that they can spend as little time as possible on transportation as possible, so that they can use that time on something else like their family, friends and hobbies. The issue is mainly work, as workforces have been more and more specialized over time, and jobs do tend to change a lot more now than let's say 30 or 50 years ago, where somebody could work in the same company for their whole life. On the topic of millionaire cities or company cities. It has been done before, and the only example of a company city still existing in a western country is Reedy Creek in Florida. Yes, it is a shitshow, no arguing about that. A billionaire doing it with his company will likely be done with company scrip and serious underpay, because it will make it harder for people to live. Same as most other failed company city concepts. USSR did also have project cities, but they weren't that good either. Don't get my started on the shit the nobility pulled of in my country back in the 18th and 19th century. btw. Flying cars are helicopters.
The 23 special wards have 9 million people or so, and are pretty close to being 15 minute cities by bike. It applies for daily and weekly necessities at least.
The reason people used to stay in the same job for decades is because they received more equitable pay. It has nothing to do with "increasing specialization." The longer you stay in a job the more specialized your skillset becomes... As for the rest... it's hard to comprehend your point. You say you live in a 15minute city... but they can't work because?? Industrial sectors need to be separate? Ever heard of public transport? I work in heavy industry and guess how far my commute is by car? less than 15 minutes. It would be even quicker with a high frequency rail system that is specifically designed to meet shift needs.
@@chazdomingo475 I am saying it is not easily scalable. The reason for it working here is that the traffic isn't dense and a relatively large part of people do come from out of town. Industrialization and urbanization does breed specialization, which is also a factor you will have to consider, and if you have people working in different sectors it will always be a compromise between the distances to each workplace, or that people will be assigned to the same sector. Sometimes people do in real life choose to live near one of their parents because of sickness or just because they can take care of the children, when they are working. 15-minute cities aren't impossible, but there are many choices that easily could lead to unhappiness and top-level control (dictatorship of the town, by either corporate or political means). This is really not a good selling point. People don't want corporations or the public to dictate their private decision like that. Buying and owning property is one of the biggest private decision you can do, and people have fought for that right all the way back before civilization.
Better urban planning is important. But 15 minute city's would not be a magic bullet infact for a good 1/3 of people thay would not be fit for purpose. A lot of the principles are great and can be used.
I dont think we need to redo our American cities all we need to do is to add good shaded sidewalks. Look around some streets dont even have a sidewalk and the side walk needs to be within a ratio of traffic and speed. Examplr 55 mph street cannot have a 3ft sidewalk
Walmart is turning Bentonville and NWA into a version of a 15 minute city. It is already expensive and even though they are building a lot of bike paths, they are doing next to nothing about vehicle congestion. I have never lived somewhere with such hostile drivers. My prediction is people will still walk up to the top of the parking garage to drive 5 minutes and spend half an hour finding a parking space. And that’s people who live in the city. For the same cost of living, you can have a McMansion outside of town. So traffic will always be a problem since they aren’t actually prioritizing walkability. Yes a sidewalk is nice but when it’s next to a road with people driving 60mph, it feels incredibly unsafe.
One of the big flaws with public transit, is the severe lack of "crosstown" service. Transit systems are almost always designed around getting people to-and-from the downtown area. Only half of the people are commuting/traveling to downtown. Yet, transit systems/companies perpetually consider crosstown lines to be money pits. This leaves cars as the only practical means of crosstown travel. This has been one of the biggest complaints about public transit for literally 100 years.
You should see how Japan builds public transport. Could get around the majority of the country on several really efficient train lines. Would be nice to have that in the US but our major cities have been built so far apart.
@@rojaalborada I'd be happy if I could get around my city faster, I could care less about being able to get around the country super fast. Also the us is big, japan is tiny.
@@rojaalborada Bullet Trains travel at 200KM/h or over on average depending on terrain and model of the train. Cars can barely keep an average speed of 100KM/h so using trains to get to far distances is actually a sound idea and makes more sense than a car unless you're planning on taking some scenic route and don't really care how fast you arive at your final destination.
You consider the WOF to be Right Wing? You don't understand how real people on the Right think. Why don't I live near where I work? Because I don't want to. I want to live in a low density area where it's peaceful and quiet. I find it funny that you downplay the conspiracy theorists, but in your last section you list things that feed those conspiracy theories. "Oh no, we're not going to force you to stay in the 15min city, but we are going to make it harder to travel long distances by ruining air travel and ruining tourist areas." I will never understand living without a car for personal transportation. Even if I lived someplace with better public transportation I would still want my own vehicle. If you don't own a car, you limit where you can go. How do you visit any place outside of a city with public transportation? How do you visit a rural area or nature area? Also, the free market is 1000% better at deciding things than some central planner.
I live in England.. For most people few amenities are within 15 minutes walk. But for most people CCTV Surveillance Controlled Parking Zones are all within a few metres walk.... Oxford Council IS requiring Permission Slips to drive on certain roads more than 100-tmes per-year. This is NOT conspiracy.
As an American, I read that plan and theres no way I would ever want to live like that. I would love to live in a 15 minute city/town, but only so long as its free of control and to correct our normal life habits with force, not with a slight tweaking and introduction of convenience. And to clarify, I'm not at all on the right. I'm an old school liberal, But one that reads news from all over the world. And yes, many of the right cry about is pure conspiracies, but theres some that are not. Especially when you read other documents and even published thoughts on said "Conspiracies". Or even the updates on how the Councils and local Gov officials react when their constituents vote down the crazy power grabs.
@@joshuakhaos4451 I'm a small 'c' Conservative, but because Britain has swung so far to the right, most folk consider my politics radically left wing. The Police in UK arrested so-called 'Anti- monarch protesters' before the Coronation had even gone ahead! Yet we're told monarch is here to defend our freedoms! You really couldn't make this shit up! The UK isn't becoming an Orwellian Police state, it is already an Orwellian Police state.
Given how Oxford has centuries old buildings listed as UNESCO World Heritage Sites, and how heavy traffic congestion affects the stability of heritage sites and structures, no wonder.
@Ian Homer Pura but they way they are doing it is oppressive, they latch onto a crisis and use it to increase their power and wealth. If you think I am wrong reference the covid response, it wasn't about health at all it was about making money and constructing a turn key authoritarian system.
Aa Somone who is been labelled as far right or even a nazi (any test show I'm stil liberal ) I dont have a problem whit 15 minutes sity I live in a village were I can do everything by bisicle I'm fine whit the consent of it advocate for it in fact But I do have a problem if you are going to enforce rater than provide a 15 minutes sity
yes that's the entire idea. Why would you ever have the impression that a self-described socialist is anything besides a psychopath who hates your guts?
Some people creating fifteen minute cities have got it all wrong. They are closing roads walling off entrances and exits and then they are keeping track of how many times a car comes in or leaves and planing to charging a fee if they cross too often or drive to far. If you are one of those people who has a real productive job and it's three miles away from your house and you drive back and forth everyday it mayl cost you alot, Because you are not a good citizen.
A 15 minutes city it is not a new concept at all. Most of us from the previous generation use to live in places like that. I grew up in neighbourhoods where everything we needed was at a walking distance, in fact we had corner stores in virtually every block and all of them were making a profit, along with shops of any kind ,even garages. Today we have places like these with a little twist. These neighbourhoods don't have corner stores but plenty of fancy bakeries and cafes that are too expensive for the common folk, let alone the multiple boutiques that are closing every few months because they don't make a decent profit. Instead of shops where one could find affordable clothing, they offer these boutiques that sell brand name stuff for outrageous prices. Those places are for the fortunate ones who can work at home and make a nice income. The rest of us have to live in huge buildings, on top of each other, where the basic services suck most of the time. What it is not contemplated in these places is that a lot of people can not work from home simply because of the nature of their occupations: trades people, nurses, factory workers and so on. The only solution is to have a top of the line public transportation seven days a week that will turn all of our big cities into 15 minutes neighbourhoods, provided that these places are equipped with the services needed (corner stores, shops, etc). Other than that anything else will be a privileged area for some and nothing more. Greetings from Toronto.
"What it is not contemplated in these places is that a lot of people can not work from home simply because of the nature of their occupations: trades people, nurses, factory workers and so on." Not sure why their workplaces cant be within 15 minuets of their homes. A 15 minute city doesn't mean everyone works from home Like yeah, those people were contemplated when talking about a 15 minute city. I don't know why you think they weren't. The last part of the video briefly talked about de-growth, and why its necessary
@@skyisreallyhigh3333 Imagine being so stupid to think that is wise to reduce your working possibilities to a few miles. Some people own a house and will not move just to be 15 min away from work. THINK!
@@fabioxperuggia I find that the people who say "THINK" at the end of their tirade are almost always people who never actually THINK Why wouldn't you want work to be no more than 15 minutes away? Why would your job opportunities be reduced with 15 minute cities? Do you not understand what building dense means?
@@skyisreallyhigh3333 If you pack people in that tightly you run into a hole host of other problems. many of them psychological, No thank you to that. Can you imagine having to form a queue to catch the lift to the bottom or top? The job I was in until I retired was not supported by cities of a million.
@@petefluffy7420 I never specified how dense we need, so I'm not sure how you came to your conclusion. I also never stated we need skyscrapers for density. Paris proves we don't with their density and only a single skyscraper and a handful of tall buildings. "Can you imagine having to form a queue to catch the lift to the bottom or top?" Can you imagine having to wait in traffic? Literally the same thing
"Or be required to do so by existential force". Yet advocates of 15 minute cities claim that they would not ever do that. Yet the leaders of former Soviet Union, China, N Korea and Cuba sure believed that a means to an end requires physical force in human affairs and had no compunction about doing so.
I want a convivial city society as well. Great video and ‘de-growth’ makes so much sense. (But so unlikely to become popular) I hope people stay to the end to hear the leftist view. Maybe expand in another video
I'm curious what he plans to do with all of the workers who work in tourism industries. If you have only been to cities where you have exactly the same restaurants that you do in your home town travel is not important, but for the rest of us, traveling is an important part of our lives. Work for us is not the most important part of our lives.
Tourism in general in this sort of plan would be something I'd like to have seen covered more. He goes into what the right fears will happen, but doesn't address much of it in the leftist portion, except to say "we need to de-brand cities." Which I totally agree with. But I also feel like, as acceptable as a 15 minute city is, it would become VERY familiar VERY quick, and many people become bored with the familiar.
@@davidlathrop9360 What is the problem with being proud of the city you are in? You can't have enough variety in just one city. It would get so borring so quickly. It seems like this youtuber simply doesn't travel.
As an Algerian it's really strange hearing the American right and conspiracy theorists yap about the 15 min city thing, because Algeria is a developing country and our government is quite authoritarian and them worrying about being punished for leaving their 15 min confined area is HILARIOUS, my country IS a big 15 min city and in my entire life I've never heard someone being punished for leaving their area??, i mean you can be arrested for talking bad or making non-likable claims about the government that's for sure, But leaving your house???? I live in the 2nd biggest city in the country that has about 1.5 million people and still you can get around anywhere without having any issues, not a single a person or entity would come to question you about your place. Where i live i have everything i need in my reach, there's a neighborhood clinic about 3 min walk away from me, my University is a 30 min walk, i can get to downtown area in a 30 min route (usually the bus or the tram, you can take taxis or even uber(we don't have uber but different local companies that operate here)), and there are convenience stores, shops, groceries, and pharmacies in every corner you wouldn't have to think of walking to get what you need and want, and here I'm only talking about my city, you can go to wherever you want across the country without issues too, you can take the bus, or a boat(in the Coast regions), or provencial taxis, or even go to the ariport and take an airplane.. i mean that doesn't stop anyone from owning a car, you can buy a car super easily and get around however you want and go to wherever without having any issues with the government (because that's stupid to even think about). I guess the problem with the us is not mainly the cars but that Americans don't have any other choice except for cars, you can't go anywhere without owning a car and that's horrible, because Freedom of Choice right?
You can't compare medieval cities with cities of the start of XX century with contemporary ones. There was no time in history when this many people lived in the same city. And didn't need to go out of town to work on some factory. Most of rhe cities today planned for majority of citizens to work in industrial sector, but the economy is already service based. Give it a little more time and good city planners and we will have dense multi-centered cities with mixed development and good public transport between centers.
I think leftists should build a 15 minute city for themselves and move there. All good as long as the rest of us can live and move wherever we like and then everyone is happy
I live in Alabama most everything is within a 5 mile radius Walmart is 2.7 miles Winn Dixie 1.7 miles Burger King 1.6 miles sports plex next door state park and a big lake 7.5 mile from home really no need to own a car I do not
It's insane because it's working towards eliminating distance travel by living local, with vehicql going to batteries only that have an extremely limited distance of travel with an extremely long recharge time. Thus reducing how and where people can travel in essence keeping people confined to a small area to be confined, controlled and easily spied on. In which diminishes freedom's to live and travel as people wish. In theory it's nice, and eventhough it's restrictive and manipulative agents freedom's to live happily as people wish.
It's convenient, although is how and where you are being restricted to travel by other than what you want in your life, is it really convenient if at sometime you want to travel by means other than what is provided by you, and is traveling farther being determined by someone other than you okay with you? And if it is, why is it that you want someone to have that much controll over your life when it's not in line with living the way that you would want?
The take down of Tolosa (spelling?) Is pretty sweet though. Props for that. I especially like the long panning shot of a single occupancy, single track monorail through uninhabited desert to the metropol. Because sustainability will be provided by personal transit through empty land use on the least efficient transit design possible. Lol.
Looking at european towns: their probably all 15 min cities. I live in one of the biggest cities in Switzerland (yes, they are small compared to London, Paris, Berlin etc.) but i can do groceries within 15min walking. This includes a proper bakery and a farm shop with vegetables and meat directly from the farmer. If i need to go somewhere else, i reach the train station within 10mins by bike or walk 500m to the bus station and have a bus every 6min (12min on Sunday and during the night). From the train station i have direct trains to nearly every bigger city in Switzerland. What we need to work on though, is the amount of proper, safe, bicycle paths. We have alot of the painted bicycle paths which just are not fun to ride and not safe.
What about not thinking that your ideas are the best for everybody? Some people like to live far apart from everything and drive a car and others not. All lifestyles are good
do you really want to live 15 minutes away from a oil refinery? A steel foundry? do you really want to walk to the grocery store in Chicago in January? I think the idea is promising, but how exactly do you plan to retrofit existing cities, especially cities on the west coast that boomed after WWII. I just wish these plans were a bit more realistic.
During the first minute I thought, wow this 15-minute city stuff doesnt sound so bad. Maybe the conservative alarmists were wrong. Then came the rest of the video.
I live south of downtown Minneapolis - 39 blocks. I was able to ride a bicycle to work in 15-20 minutes. I can eat, drink, buy food, hardware, big box, auto stores, books are within 10 minutes via bicycle.
Crazy thing is, all of those things are true for me here in Orange County, California. The problem is there are no bike lanes on most streets, and those that do have a painted line with 3 ft of space that drivers constantly ignore when making right turns. Crossing an artery means crossing AT LEAST 7 lanes of traffic, none of which are looking out for you and half of which may be turning in your direction. It's too stressful.
While I agree with lots of what you say, and conspiracy theorists be damned. But, lumping true capitalism into the crap pile with corporatism and cronyism is dangerous. Here's my standpoint on lots of things: 1. American cities have been built around the car thanks to car manufacturers and oil lobbyists and that's created unlivable cities with horrendous quality of life for most citizens. 2. Most western counties are not capitalist at all, they are corporatist run by cronies and lobbyists. 3. the WEF are a bunch of corrupt, manipulative scumbags who care only about their bottom line. 4, Some conspiracies turn out to be true, so we shouldn't disregard them offhand purely because of who's pushing them, we should analysis and review. 5,. true capitalism is actually highly supportive of social outreach policies that support the bottom of the ladder, and should support climbing that ladder. 6. JP is mental at times and needs to stay in his lane. 7. the Oxford thing is idiotic, they have some crazy traffic and congestion, so introducing a congestion charge isn't novel, London does it, Cambridge does it, Edinburgh does it etc. who knows why people are leaping onto that. 8. Electric cars aren't going to solve anything long term, they are a bandage on a grenade wound, they take too long to be net 0 in carbon output due to current battery tech (lithium is evil) 9. Most governments suck at running anything, so I have sympathy with peoples opinions on that. 10. city sprawl is terrible and needs fixing and stopping, heck the UK is going the wrong way here (bedroom communities everywhere). But apartment blocks aren't a great solution either. 11. We need to remove our dependance on downtown areas, and build smaller, more sustainable communities not attached to an existing downtown. 12. I refuse to commute, ever. I either want to walk, or work from home (I currently and will WFH as long as possible). 13. its not people that's the issue, its companies propped up by governments, recycling, energy saving bulbs, electric cars, etc non of that matters, its companies and governments. 14. the housing shortage is all down to our reliance on the downtown and our terrible land uses. you can't just build more houses to solve this. 15. public transport sucks in the UK, so we need to push for improvements. 16. outside spaces are everything, flats/appartments aren't ideal for that, but building traces, multi storey, townhouses, mixed use buildings, removing massive parking lots, bulldozing satellite malls etc. open up those spaces for homes, parks etc. 17. build smaller, more local public services (shops, schools, doctors, fire etc). less massive, more frequent. That is just my overall thoughts, I can go into massive detail on some, less on others. I'm not on board with this polarising idea of Left vs Right, socialist vs capitalist etc. Its to that simple, and demonising people who want more social outreach or those who don't trust the government to run anything is idiotic. And lumping capitalism into the same pile of rubbish as the terrible way things run now is not good enough. We need to understand how our systems actually run, and they aren't capitalist. Like at all. Its disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Free market, does not mean free to scrutiny or failure, a truly capitalist system wouldn't have bailed out the banks during 2008, they would have bailed out the people and let the banks fail, thats the free market, Free market doesn't mean letting the people fall, it means allowing the market to regulate itself. The banks failing was the market working, them being bailed out was the corruption supporting corporatism. Not capitalism. A truly 15 minute city is only possible under a free market, but it needs regulation, social outreach, and decentralisation of city services.
I am surprised to see americans trying to invent things that already exist in Europe. Look at the Nederlands for transit solutions, to Vienna for housing solutions... it's like... the answers are there... they just don't wanna do it...
because any time they try to bring the answers here they always want to bring the authoritarianism too. If they proposes changes to zoning laws, tax incentives, or development of infrastructure for public transit *WITHOUT* also trying to "solve" the "issue" of people driving "too much" people would be all for it. Yet we Americans have this nasty habit where we tend to favor liberty. I know, it's weird.
@@grimjoker5572 well... as I said... inventing the wheel. The Nederlands first started solving the problem of people driving too much... cause child death... but well, lets always have the cake and eat it too.
@@PabloGambaccini _"The Nederlands first started solving the problem of people driving too much"_ This isn't a "problem." People "doing something too much" isn't a matter for the government to fix. They are not our parents, our behavior is not for them to correct. If they want to offer better alternatives, alright. This is why people don't like the ideologies you propose. _"cause child death"_ Hyperbole. _"but well, lets always have the cake and eat it too."_ Yeah, like Japan.
@@grimjoker5572 well... the goverment is the one paying for the roads. If we are gonna go anarco capitalist with it... let the drivers pay the full amount the roads for their cars cost for the state. But well saying liberty and then taxing everybody for an unefficient elitist transit solution is contradictory... as having your cake and eating it. There is no liberty when there is monopoly. And yes... I know,...why should I talk about child death when America the number one country for school shootings? 😂 but well... common sense, I don't know 😂
This won't work in Leftist strong holds within the US. The biggest issue is leftist Americans may want communitarian institutions/infrastructure, but don't value communities enforcing basic behavioral civilization standards on individuals. Essentially, the culture doesn't match the institution. Having lived in San Fran for a short period, I've taken the bart many times, of the 5 last rides, fights broke out with 3 of those rides. I also bike and walk a lot (kills two birds with one stone), and the issues with dealing with social dysfunction are magnified when you're out and about. Considering crime has been ramping up in the urban centers and the recent case in NYC, safety on transport this should be a pretty big known issue at this point. Ironically, the best population that could utilize it would be conservatives due to the self discipline. I state this because to use a comparison, both the US and Switzerland have similar outlined macro healthcare institutions but have extremely different results for various reasons (size, culture, specifics within the law, etc). Implementing something poorly could ruin the idea, and I think instead of adding on to an unstable pile, you'd need to focus on some civilizational fundamentals prior.
I want to say this is perhaps one of the most important points; good transit also needs to focus on security of the riders aboard. People disrespectful of the infrastructure and others around them, accosting fellow riders with absurd behavior, assault, robbery, and in rare cases, homicide, need an active transit security. Without respect for the infrastructure put into place by the public, riders will be less inclined to use transit and instead seek alternative methods that work against the 15 minute city concept.
@@MarsonJohansen Well, as a part of density, there's also the lack of 3-dimensional policing within individual buildings. For any building that isn't a brownstone or walkup with fire escapes on the outside, I would love to have basic security officers posted inside each lobby as they are now, but also on every three floors above that. Not every single floor needs officers stationed, that would raise tensions and give an authoritarian, security state feel, but having a responding officer that can reach the floors above and below by simply walking up or down a single flight of stairs would be a huge weight off my shoulders as a law-abiding citizen. They would be trained to be able to run up and down the three flights of their zone, and would be required to take an annual physical involving an examination of said training. Make it through in 90 seconds or less and you're golden. They would be trained in de-escalation tactics, sensitivity and the like, and would particularly be required to have a social workers' licence. They would be allowed to take noise complaints and would be required to be residents of the building they police.
It blows my mind that those on the internet who are opposed to public transport see fights everyday on public transport, but those of us who want more of it hardly ever see fights on public transport. Really weird
Interesting, that this concept of 15-minute-cities exist. I lived in a big city like Berlin that is definetely not a 15-minute-city, except for the ones who can afford this. Since I switched to a small city I feel, what I chan reach everything in walking distance and it´s very convenient. Why I wasted my life in Berlin? Thank to this Documentary I know that there is a name for it: 15-Minute-City. It exists already since 500 Years ago. They are small cities in Europe. And the Chinese have dense High-Rises-Residentials around a train station which makes everything very convenient and reachable and Urban Gardening on the roofs.
I have no problem with 15 minute cities, so long as they are not implemented by force. And so far, ALL of the plans for 15 minute city plans are being, or are planned to be implemented by force. They forcibly reduce travel, and choices for the people.
Because cars reduce choices for everyone else, by removing space for public transit, space for cyclists and most importantly, space for pedestrians. You can't have both, because cars ruin everything by their inherent inefficiency.
What?! I live in London UK which has always been a 15 minute city in its 2000 year history, except for outlying areas built in the 20th century. The Mayor is implementing measures to make the city less hostile to pedestrians and cyclists, and really everybody because the primary goal is to reduce pollution, in particular ULEZ which adds to our existing congestion charge scheme. So you get charged more if you drive into central London with a high emission vehicle. However there is a scrappage scheme that pays people for their crap vehicles so they can buy something low emission, and the Mayor has also added bus ring routes that avoid central London, and increased bus frequency. If you haven’t been to London we have fantastic public transit with frequent buses, the Overground, the Underground, National Rail, trams, and the DLR (light rail). There’s also a city sponsored e-bike system (called Boris bikes locally because Boris Johnson, a Tory even, implemented the scheme when he was Mayor), and private bike hire schemes, plus bike super highways and bike lanes (though not through Kensington and Chelsea because toffs 🙄). It’s not perfect but there are tons of alternatives to cars. It’s hardly ‘by force’ here. Like you can still drive your gas guzzler if you want to, just that there will be consequences if you are dumb enough to drive through central London (and like, why would you want to? There’s barely any parking and never has been).
@@KatharineOsborne I was in London last July for a couple of days. Bus system took forever, and was expensive and confusing. What we are hearing is that in some neighborhoods, 15 minute city policies are enforced. There are cameras that record when you enter and leave, and you need permission to do either. Yes, London has statistically been a 15 minute city voluntarily. My only problem is when it is enforced. Oh, and London is one of the most dystopian surveillance states in the world. Almost as bad a Beijing. Cameras everywhere with facial recognition software. And Orwell we as a Brit.
I love and support 15 minute cities but decentralizing employment is not what will topple capitalism. Not to be the read theory guy, but read theory! centralization of production is one of the tendencies of capitalism which will be preserved through revolution as its far easier to nationalize a giant central corporation than hundreds of thousands of small capitalists.
Don't take it wrong i heard a lot about 15 min cities and on one hand it sounds like stuff that comunists were trying to do on the other hand it sounds like someone had good intetions. But one thing is sure it will not work. Me for example i have great dentist and i have no reason to find diferent one, he is 35km away, work promising that your work will be only 15 minuts of walk is imposible, what is i like chees that is only in one store and the store is on the other side of the city and i could find more examples, like barber, doctor, restaurant and many more. Just trust me it will not work it was created by someone who thinks "If we force people to live like that world will be better."
The 'offer' made of 15 minute cities is not an offer though. It is a forced situation. Wer will not get all we need within 15 minutes, we will be denied what we want, or barriers will be artificially made so great. I say this living in a very walkable city in Italy, so I appreciate exactly the deal. Pure tyranny by 'the best brains' corrupted by power.
The concept of having amenities nearby is good and should be implemented a lot more. In the Netherlands and many european cities that's already the case. Having work nearby sounds great on paper but lots and lots of people don't work in the same city they live in due to cost and usually both partners are working so its either close to his work or close to her work, not both. I also like leaving my city to visit friends and family go to a forest, a beach or travel to the countryside where there is no public transport and is way too far to ride my bike so i won't be giving up my car (which is an EV by the way, i do care about the environment) anytime soon. I will never want to live in a city that won't allow cars. And that's coming from an avid cyclist. If i'm only allowed out of the city a couple of times a year i will use that opportunity only once: To leave the country and go live somewhere else where i'm not a prisoner.
Exactly this; I actually don't like driving. It's stressful to me. Yet the only thing more stressful is having my livelihood in somebody else's hands. If the bus is late, if the bus driver has some kind of episode, I don't care what, it doesn't matter what, it's outside of my control and as such not a risk factor I can account for; yet a risk factor which can have drastic implications for my continued livelihood. The issue isn't that people don't want cities where you can walk places, it's not that people don't want cities you can cycle places, it's that people also want cities that you can drive places. The solution is more options, not more control.
@@grimjoker5572 the way I see it is, and I believe the way this man describes it as, is that the public transit needs to be excellent. Most U.S. public transit systems are not reliable, frequent, or have very good coverage. An excellent transit system will have very few interruptions. As a driver you will often experience very frequent interruptions because of traffic. Sure as a driver whose commute requires me to drive, I am technically controlling my own vehicle, but I am still at the whim of traffic a force outside of myself. I don't see it as much different than taking transit where someone else is driving you since behind the wheel or not I'm relying on external factors and entities. At least if I had an excellent transit system I would know that these disruptions would be very infrequent, whereas I can reliably predict traffic on a large portion of my commutes. I should add though that I don't think cars should be removed from cities, just prioritized very low compared to other modes of transit
I like the idea of people living and purchasing where they like while enterprising business people note it and start conveniences in those areas. Or vice-a-versa. Once the government plans anything those things go to hades in a handbasket before long.
@@grimjoker5572 The real problem that should be fixed is corporations insisting on putting their businesses in the middle of cities. It is their choices that cause unaffordable living conditions. If they spread out people could live near where they work instead of commuting.
Cars for the rich only ,rd closers traffic calming measures make more traffic not to menshion the affects on small buisness which can be over come if you have shops in a multi storie blocks of flats to increase customer s to these shops which will be corporation owned.
Haven't laughed & learned at the same time in a while. Really enjoying your videos and will be sharing with others! Look forwarding to more laughs & learns(?)
I have news for you....the concept of a 15 minute city is most definitely not "new". Every old world city developed before the the manufacturing age or cars since the beginning of time is a 15 minute city....just because you saw a RUclips video doesn't make it a recent invention...Wow, things actually existed 150 years ago! What a concept!😂😂
No way you could ever turn my area into a walkable area without holding everyone at gun point and demolishing everything. We will never see any changes. Dont know why we bother
Hey, I'd say do it if you want to do it. I on the other hand like my life just the way it is. I'm going to keep my motorcycle. I'm going to keep my SUV. But I tell you what, I'm not unreasonable. I'll give up my car when Justin trudeau, Barack obama, Al gore, and all the other climate grifters give up their private jets and their yachts. Until then, well, things are just going to stay exactly the way they are, I guarantee it.
What if an entire town mysteriously burnt down and a billionaire volunteered to rebuild a 15 min city in its place? Like Maui. It would be awesome. Like a reservation. Native Americans love reservations. I already lived on a Rez. No thank you. I'm free now, not going back.
How purposeless and boring is your life that you have to seek out even the slightest annoyance and turn it into a vast conspiracy against your adherence and devotion to the current constructs of life? Good god!
Degrowth: The idea that your life should be more about spending time with the people you love rather than breaking your back just so you can buy another toy Example: the walkable city with affordable housing, and a 4 day work week with under 8 hours a day. Plenty of time to get groceries on your way back from work everyday and the rest of the week is time with friends. I'd rather spend time with my friends.
Wouldn't it be grand to have the choice rather than to have it forced on you by the Uber-Wealthy? First is cajoling. Then come the social credits. Then the bullying. But I guess it will be okay as long as we don't realize before we die that we spent our last years in a gilded cage. (Well, hopefully gilded. Would truly suck if the cage became neglected by the cage owners because why wast your family entertainment time making sure the peons are doing okay?)
You can see the version of gilded cages likely to be the future of many in the cities where tent encampments line the streets. Perhaps the more upscale will live in shanty towns like the ones in South Africa. Communism always makes the standard of living of the masses worse. So why do people keep dreaming of some utopia that doesn't exist? @@veganconservative1109
You do what you like and model your life to suit you. And I'll model mine to suit me. I don't need any organisation that I didn't vote for, telling me what my life should be like or what I ought to want from it.
@@gemlouise1260 we don't have poop flowing through the streets like they did in ancient times because that's illegal now. You can't just make life worse for everyone else and say that because you used to be able to do it, but you should be able to do it in the future.
When I was stationed in Korea. I loved how everything was so close to my apartment and in walking distance. If I wanted to go to a bigger store or the movies it was just a short train ride away as all the towns were connected by rail
A dislike here. While I'm a walkable city enthusiast myself and frankly would love to see the entire world turned into the Netherlands in this regard (and I'm a proud Not Just Bikes subscriber), I cannot accept tying it to a certain ideology or political movement, especially as criminal as communism. Like why are you even doing this? I'm from Poland, I haven't experienced communism myself, but my parents and grandparents have and maybe they can tell you some stories about waiting in line the entire night just to buy groceries, not being able to visit family abroad, waiting a year in order to get a permission to get married, being displaced from Belarus to Poland by train with the journey lasting over a week, not having freedom of speech, living in poverty or even hunger. Or maybe uncle Stalin can take you on a wonderful journey to a gulag or Ukraine in 1930s, where 3 million people died of hunger. And don't tell me all these things happened because the countries were poor to begin with. Just compare East and West Germany, North and South Korea. Also my ancestors, living in a village, always had something to eat up until the "liberation" by the Soviets. Like seriously, you in the West don't know what you're talking about when referring to communism.
But the west dose know how bad unregulated capitalism is, annnnd I'll be honest, it's a bit depressing how bad it can get. So to find an ideological to help the people, and not get screwed over... well, yah. Not saying your history and trauma isn't real or isn't something to point out. It's just something to state yknow.
@@mikikaboom9084 The problem is who would do the regulating? Becouse regulators in the Netherlands used the Dutch IRS to grind 10000s of people into debt, poverty and children taken by child services. The government can only make certain rules, when it begins to regulate it always goes to shit.
We in the west do.not what we are referring to. We are referring to the future stateless,, classless, and moneyless society we would like to exist one day. You can go on about how bad communism is, but capitalism has been doing genocides everywhere it goes. Where are the natives of North America? Oh yeah, the capitalists killed them off so they can steal the land and resources. WW1 was caused by the fact that the European capitalist nations had all conquered the world and now they wanted to destroy each others empires so they could control them. WW1 was caused by the fact there was no more land to steal Fascism is a form of capitalism, so the holocaust was a capitalist genocide. USA also did genocide against Vietnam, Laos, and Korea. All for capitalist expansion. Your parents have no idea what they are talking about and you're just repeating propaganda. Maybe, I dont know, actually learn what fucking communism is and learn how incredibly violent capitalism actually is.
I think it's you that don't know what is communism. There was no workers democracy in your Country and left communists were killed in Gulag, It was just a caricature
@@veganconservative1109 From North to South, the longest way, about three hours and twenty minutes by car. By bike, perhaps two days with stops, but you wouldn't do that unless you find it fun. Public transport in NL is awesome.
I dont understand why people even have a reason to hate 15 minute cities. I just wonder if not a 15 minute city then what is the ideal city for them? A congested and polluted city where it takes hours to get to places?
@@elliotwilliams7421 I think thats a fair point but from what ive seen the majority of people think the government is trying to control them and take their freedom away which is straight up stupid. They dont wanna give up their cars because they think cars are freedom.
@@ruben4447 thinking it's gonna be a utopia is also stupid The discussion has to be realistic and so far nobody has put forward a working plan. So what if people don't want to give up cars? For some people it does give them freedom, whatever that means as it's different for every person What's also stupid is thinking that not having a car is freedom. See folk saying that a lot too. What's missing from the discussion is the human element, friends and family is never discusseed. It's not realistic that most people will be able to live and work so close to work
@@elliotwilliams7421 No one says its gonna be an Utopia. Its gonna be an Utopia compared to what we currently have. I also didnt say i wanna completely get rid of cars. Trust me as a car guy i totally understand why people dont wanna get rid of cars. But what i was thinking of is to give people more choice. Choice is true freedom. There should be more transportation options for people with various wages and disabilities. A government that forces you to buy a car in order to get to any destination isnt really freedom. The goal was never to completely remove cars but to balance it out in adding more variety in transportation options.
@@ruben4447oh no, this is a direct attack on drivers. Limiting their chances of having one forces folk onto public transport. This is a corporate heaven. Corporations want you out your car and at your desk or spending money. .other side......the concept does not work onve youbthink aboutbit. Move past the propaganda and buzz words and there is nothing that works
It's relatively easy to come up with 15 minute cities when most of the jobs are office work. But what about factory jobs, or farming communities? In the case of the former, are we going to build more "company towns?" In the case of the latter, how are we going to attract the necessary services to make 15 minute farm towns?
bro if the offices stay empty we can plant weed in the empty buildings. Besides, it's not about doing everything in a "15 minute" city plan, I don't want to be 15 minut3s away from a powerplant. Of course you can use your judgement to see where we can implement walkability based on common sense.
Obviously cars still play a role in rural communities where distances are far for things like work, which is often in a different nearby city from where you live.
Yeah, I think that's one of the few realistic issues in 15min urban planning but I guess the solution is "as always" communication over marginalization. Make sure there's a efficient way of public transportation and probably more descentralized (but interconected) villages
The Pope doesn't live in a 15 minutes city.
He lives in a 15 minutes state.
City state
Basically a country, they have their own money and police, political structure
Have you seen the speed he walks, more like a 3 hour city to him.
@@Bellabaddi Vatican City is a sovereign State and the pope is a head of State.
The cons listed for walking and cycling are attributes of the car dependent environment. It's not hard to imagine a world with less driving. It's hard to for people to sacrifice convenience and pleasure.
So fun part, when things are closer they're more convenient to get to, car or no car. You can also replace the cars with slow and small light electric vehicles if you really want to keep microcars.
Commuting in cars isn't pleasant. That's carbrain talking.
The cons is check points where you will not be able to leave your zone because it will be deemed wasteful. It's Adolf Hitler gone nutty with the UN
@Chaz Domingo I commute by bike. That's pleasurable.
But that's the thing, they'd only be swapping one kind of convenience for another, and we'd all be better off as a result...
I lived in a 15 city. Haarlem, The Netherlands. I was born and now live again in a very not 15 minute city in Canada. Both places are very expensive. Not needing a car at all was awesome.
I know about Haarlem mainly because of Corrie ten Boom and her stories about the Dutch resistance. Her descriptions of pre-1945 Haarlem with them biking everywhere was very pleasing to think of.
What about not being able to afford a car and not even having a choice because regulations are so severe?
@@americandirt7834 A good example of that is Denmark. Taxes on cars are gigantic. Almost all my friends in Denmark do not own cars. The difference is that alternatives are available. More choice is what we need in North America.
@@gdemorest7942 Sounds great. But it also sounds like the Danes are forced into other alternatives because cars are made unnaturally expensive. For a country as rich as Denmark, a car shouldn't be out of reach of most households. And, even if the public transit system is terrific, it can never replicate the almost unlimited possibilities of a privately owned car.
I'd say we have far more choice than the Danes. That was also my experience having visited Copenhagen. Loved the biking culture. But you can't just randomly bike 25 miles away on a whim. And Denmark doesn't have the greatest weather in the world.
@@americandirt7834 You are correct. No one in Denmark or Holland would think about riding 25 miles on a regular everyday bicycle. I did it once while living in Holland and the Dutch people I knew thought I was weird. Like you said, it is all about alternatives. I loved having a car in Holland and so do my Danish friends in Denmark, we just don't have to drive it that much.
One of the hottest takes I have is that we should have “more” cities rather than larger ones. Just a bunch of small to medium cities or towns connected by public transit.
Agree, we need to disperse the stress of economic burden to push growth away from small number but big cities that will cause the rural be emptied.
I thought the whole point is to prevent sprawl?
@@williemherbert1456 I love rural areas. Why do you want them to be emptied? People should have the right to live off the grid.
Yeah, I see what you mean. I've lived in several large expensive cities. Idon't particularly like big cities but I do so because the areas around them are not conducive to my work and life. The suburbs are a non-starter for me. They are either so anti-social and inhumanly designed that I wouldn't live there even for free, or they're quaint and cute, and filled with racists, fascists, and the "apolitical." It would be much better for everyone if these places didn't exist, and instead the areas outside places like New York or LA were human-scale, organized around transit, cycling, and mobility accessibility as a rule. Rather than LA country sprawling over thousands of square miles as it does today, the same number of people could live in a decentralized grid of mid-sized cities that allow 15-minute living at each node in the grid and easy access to every other node without significant hierarchy. Then most of the county could be re-naturalized and de-sprawled. When everywhere is a good place to live and nowhere is uniquely privileged housing and infrastructural pressure is significantly reduced. We would still need massive investments in social housing, transit, etc., and the abolition of landlords though.
Welcome to Germany 😂
After growing up in Florida for 25 years and finally living in a "15 minute city" (by bike) with a Walk Score of 90+, you can't convince me to live in a car-dependent neighborhood again. I've tried to convince carbrain friends to just bike to the grocery store and can't even get them to do that. Americans are almost too far gone for changing these habits unless we have a legit gas shortage.
Are you married? How many kids? How far away do you live from work, school, friends, and family?
@@NA-en7kz I live on my own, but it should not really change many things. You just need to prepare more. For a family, I could just find a bigger apartment or house rental slightly farther away in my city. Cargo bikes can cover the burden of getting kids or large amounts of groceries around town. My city is small enough to bike across in 20 minutes and have a minimal bus service if needed too.
@@GirtonOramsay It does change things though.
I like the idea. I like it a lot actually. But I've also seen how it is used to gentrify a quarter of the entire city space, in the name of pursuing the 15-minute city plan.
I also see how they actively discourage personal property ownership. "Just let us take care of that for you"
And it has a lot of perks. I just don't see those perks outweighing the cons.
@@NA-en7kz I am married and have one child. I do not own a car. I walk to work and live 3 miles away from work. I do have the opportunity to work from home 3 days a week. Yes, it takes more planning to do things but the fact I can do this in Charlotte which doesn't score so well in walkability should show that much of the problem is inherent with the populations in said cities.
@@BaystheBeast It really is a mentality thing. Despite having more free time than ever before, we continue to find ways to remain rushed.
I think reducing the perceived "need" to have a car to get anything done would do wonders to slow things down for us, make life more enjoyable, and help open us to new solutions or views on existing conditions.
That said, I don't think that the 15-minute city is the solution. I think it would make things worse, primarily our mental health.
I think our work-life balance, as a whole, would take a hit. Working less than 15 minutes away from home makes it easy to be called in for anything, it becomes more likely that you would bring work home, either a portion of your literal workload or the mentality of work.
You have to incentivise other means of transportation rather than banning cars and oil. Because that's simply never going to fly with the majority of the American people.
We as Americans have become spoiled in car based society, so much so that we forget that there have been entire great civilizations that lived in small condensed (walk-able) regions. We act like a 15 minute city is strange, but in actuality its our sprawled our communities that are not the norm. It is NOT normal for us to live so far apart from each other.
It's a huge factor in the rise of depression among the youth. They no longer have autonomy. They're not safe riding their bikes to school, or over to a friends house. It's either too dangerous, too far, or both...its usually both.
@@kayleelockheart8208 How are they not safe?
@🃏 [JWO] Lonlon XxstealsyohamzxX cars. Cars have made our cities incredibly unsafe. Especially now that the trucks have gotten bigger, and bigger, and bigger.
I like living around as few people as possible on my own land. I love the wide open space and vast fields.
@@SalsaSippin_ my uncle got hit by any elder driver while being on a bike lanes, and I could imagine the chaos the car operator without any driving license or test would do...
8:15 that’s such a middle school idea. I talked bout this with my friends when we were like 13 and we came to the conclusion that if people flying around was viable everyone would have a helicopter already instead of a car. We also wondered what would happen if you crashed in the sky would the cars just fall on people below. We though yes. They are Litteraly appealing to people who don’t think
Ah yes, flying cars to people who are already abysmally shit at driving on a two-dimensional plane.
Every car crash becomes it's own little 9/11, lmao
There'd be a few thousand per day
And if it stops working, does it fall out of the sky??????
If you live in a place that is car dependent, there's a cost involved. My car is totally paid off, gets good mileage, is low maintenance, and it still costs me about $4000 a year to own. That's a 10% pay cut I take every year just for living in a car dependent city. And I make what I consider a decent income. If you make minimum wage, you'd lose over a quarter of your income just getting to work and back. It's ridiculous.
where on earth do you live that a car cost 4K to have? pack up that car and MOVE!
@@oggyreidmore Yup. $4000 is normal. My insurance was nearly a grand and I was paying $30/week in gas, that's roughly $2500 right there.
With car prices going up and car repairs becoming more expensive as well, insurance will keep creeping up no matter what you drive.
That’s crazy. In Germany you could buy a all-year-round train ticket for that price.
I work construction i need my car for work, i cant carry my tools on a train or a bus what if i need to run to the parts store to get materials to finish the job, it dosent benefit everyone
@@dennisdoran3947 Who asked?
You know... watching this made me realize that in the current day europe does social experimentation while the US does economic experimentation. It used to be that you went to the us to avoid social stigmas and have greater economic potential. Now you leave the US to avoid social stigmas and go to the US if you have a new idea for a scam or exploitative business.
Just a fact that europe is full a 15 minute cities, becouse they old and was builded when car not exist, especially in italy a lot of streets very narrow, in some places impossible to use car. So its not experiment, its real norm
If you want to be both socially stigmatized AND fleeced by charlatans, move literally anywhere in the U.S. South hahah. Whole damn region is run by con artists and grifters, in both the public and private sectors.
@@alister_kroulenkoWe very much had car centric cities 50 years ago thank you very much. We simply changed that because it was killing people, and we didn't like people being killed for the sake of some stupid travel mode. So we started fixing our problems without making cars less usable. Which was how we ended up with safe bike / walking distance oriented cities.
@@hungrymusicwolf50 years ago but not 500 years ago. Many cities have city centers that were built up around streets that have been in the same place (and, notably, width) for centuries.
@@asongfromunderthefloorboardsMost of our cities are not old city centers from 500 years ago. We had the same car centric problem until not long ago, but we went at it and solved it. That's how you see the much more livable cities today.
It's not a holdover from 500 years ago. Barely a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of our country is that old and beautiful as it may be it doesn't hold the many a millions of people our country has. Cities designed in modern day do.
New York City is pretty good in transportation. And its pretty much 30 minute city, for most of the time.
As long as you don't intend to own your place
@@kozmaz87 You mean it's too expensive to buy place? That's true.
For a lot of the city, yes, but you do also have to worry about being mowed down by terrible drivers or deal with excruciating transit times in certain neighborhoods.
Getting stabbed in the subway and imprisoned for defending yourself. No thanks.
There is no way to make a "15-minute" city with transportation. To realize this, you need to live within 3 minutes (200m/500ft) from a station/bus stop, your destination need to be within 3 minutes, waiting time within 3 minutes (3-5 minute frequency), and 6 minutes transit time (at 30mph -> 3miles/5km).
'All commutes are bastards' is a great aside.
I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. They are planning a 15-minute city here. There are problems with this here:
- neighborhood bus stops have been eliminated in many areas… making it almost impossible to get around. Seniors and disabled people are now stuck in their homes, without a way to get around.
- there are only a few hospitals in the city so getting to a hospital can cost you your life in an emergency when ambulances are not available and you cannot get a taxi for whatever reason (cost/availability/no phone service etc)
- transit safety is a huge issue with the frequent attacks on innocent passengers and bystanders with inadequate policing available
- we have winter conditions here for more than half a year so walking and riding a bike (even for athletic people) is nearly impossible, and sidewalks are not navigable by disabled people.
- most jobs are usually the furthest from your home as they may be the only jobs available
- rents are often higher than mortgages in some areas so sharing rental spaces of convenience for travel and close convenience for work/shopping is not an option
- many businesses we relied on for our livelihood and purchased goods from closed down during Covid and have never returned
- our mayor and city council are trying to discourage car traffic but they get $1200/$600+ respectively each for their own transportation costs monthly
- schools are not centralized here. Elementary schools, high schools, colleges and universities are in all areas of the city so getting a family of kids to school on time cannot be realistically undertaken, while still getting to work on time
- light rail transit takes decades to plan and build. Houses have to be torn down in order to build it. The previous mayor told me it would take 50 years until I could get to work this way. I would be dead before it was ever realized.
So…
I don’t think it will easily work here. I guess we will see what happens now as it’s being forced on this awkward city.
Hey fellow Edmontonian here. Edmonton suffers from a weird complex of feast and famine as well as mayors who have some really misguided ideas.
When oil price is high then the city is flushed with money and then there's money for projects...which they then do things like put a stupid metal baseball
bat statue on 97th street. Why? Because the mayor at that time was an ex-football player and was trying to help the impoverished 118 Avenue area.
Before our current mayor, the previous mayor imposed bike lanes in downtown and Whyte Avenue by greatly increasing the number of one-way streets and
single-lane streets, which just made things inconvenient for auto travellers (we should have just legalized biking on the sidewalk for safety instead). Compare
that to how Hong Kong dealt with the newer eastern districts like LOHAS Park, where guarded bike/skate/scooter paths next to walking paths
are placed by streets which gives adequate space to all citizens.
I live in Airdrie and work in Calgary as most cities around Calgary commute to Calgary. This will not work lol
Your prime minister is a wokesta simpleton.
@@misericorde3870I feel as a citizen of Winnipeg, we are closest in terms of all, if not most of your points.
Far right kook here. Many of us grew up in what could be considered 15 minute cities.
Biggest problem is that we have sold out the working class by exporting good paying manufacturing jobs to the far east. Bring back manufacturing, but build quality product without the planned obsolescence and the waste that results from it. Go back to smaller scale production that can be done in a decentralized manner to reduce both shipping of finished goods and employee commute time.
Soo true
This is what the far left aims for; why do you call yourself a far right kook?
@kylesmith2145 sarcasm....my beliefs haven't changed much, but ten years ago, I was a centrist.
However, I must add that the political party that I support is considered "far right".
I'm pretty sure your not a right political thinker if your calling yourself a kook. Nice try troll
I, for one, cannot wait to move to the desert city of Telosa. Where there's just unlimited recycled water and I will have my Chevrolet Skeye (pronounced 'sky'), the newest vertical take off and landing vehicle for families. Which will be used to sit in traffic as me and my Nuclear Family excitedly wait for our turn to get into Disney Telosa.
the worst part is that I know the government will have bailed out General Motors at least 3 more times before they get flying cars to production
Flying car? Wait we have that, it is called a Helicopter. People do not realize that cars don't fly for a reason. And Helicopters are expensive and need a train pilot for a reason. There is a city full of Helicopters, it is called São Paulo in Brazil. Dumb ideia. Waste of money.
Warsaw ghetto
Do ppl on the actual left usually refer to themselves as leftists? I actually expected this to be Sarcastic because of the term. I feel like ppl on the left tend to use the term progressive for themselves. But I’m out of the loop so idk?
I find it so strange for you to try to force concepts of good urban design into a "leftist" box, and I don't think framing it that way helps the cause at all.
There are “white supremacist” dissident right podcasts that advocate for 15 minute cities and car less streetcar suburbs. Socialist in “national Socialism” actually means socialism and the “far right” conservatives he uses as examples are extremely progressive and liberal. You are absolutely right though.
Problem is with them rehashing the 15 minute idea with travel restrictions.
All is good in the urban planning sense but it turns sour once it is about mobility restrictions.
Yeah, congestion pricing is something separate to 15 minute cities all together and shouldn't be mentioned in the same paragraph
@@illiiilli24601 the London ULEZ is even worse, you get screwed over even driving during non congestion times.
The Chinese odd/even/municipality plate restrictions are even worse. You can’t use your car in some major cities during specific days/times.
@@liucyrus22 Agreed. I like the idea of 15 minute cities, but I'm generally against stuff like ULEZ (which aim to solve something different to congestion pricing, which is tailpipe emissions). Too much stick and not enough carrot.
I won't start on the odd even one, that is beyond regarded
PTB priorities are demonstrated by the creation of turn-back lanes, checkpoint lighting, surveillance cameras and fiscal penalties you can be sure it is about containment and not healthy living. Bicycle riding in clean air and picnics under the trees are an illusion fostered by the same people who brought you armed riot police harassing old ladies in the park, head-slamming others and firing rubber bullets at lock-down protesters. When the farmer brings in the sheep and clangs the gate shut, that's it, they aren't getting out.
Those odd-even schemes and number coding only made traffic congestion worse. Here in the Philippines, we started to implement it in Metro Manila starting in the 1990s, and people simply bought another car to circumvent the rule, resulting to even more cars. And now Metro Manila loses up to $2-B a year due to traffic congestion.
Pretty sure we disagree on many points, but I'm quite impressed and appreciative of the level of thought, care, and evidentiary support put into your video. I learned something new, and it's inspiring to see solutions enumerated. Very constructive. Thank you!
You like Slave towns 🙈
A 2030 Agenda Apologist?
You, my friend, are a total grift. Why MUST the WEF or anyone 'prevent global disaster' anyhow? Seas rising at 2mm per year, average temperatures increasing 1-2C per century? Humans may be pretty gullible mate, but they are mostly rational, resourceful & apt to employ common-sense. I call BS on your catastrophism & I abhor that you can earn even a single cent of our capitalist money from it. Thumbs-down. Mitch from Australia.
I would love American cities to adopt more of these ideas from Europe. I, as well as many other disabled Americans, cannot drive. It takes me 2 to 2 1/2 hours to reach the larger downtown in my area (Seattle)-and that’s just one way. Which is exhausting.
Why don't you just live in the downtown area?
@@onetwothreeabc because when it costs you 5000 dollars or more to rent an apartment or a house why would you live there? Not only that why would I want to live around a bunch of crackhead homeless people?
@@onetwothreeabc
Rents are insane, and affordable places tend to be firetraps
@@danbeaulieu2130 So you made the choice to live in the suburb and own a car.
@@onetwothreeabc
No. I accepted the fact that I had to live in an apartment complex from from anything. And I have never owned a car.
Good luck getting me into one of these! These are nothing but prisons!
"A capital billionaire in his infinite benevolence"...those are rarer than winged unicorns on Saturn.
nah.
15-minute cities do exist in most countries, they are limited of size, and I live in one, it has a population of 35k people. But you do need to understand one thing about urban planning. Industrial zones will have to be split from trading and housing zones. You can't simply have people living up to workshops with angle grinders and medical production plants that have toxic gasses escaping of something goes wrong.
However if you want to scale that up, you do need central lines of transportation, and you do need to give an option for point to point transportation, that is an alternative to a car. A bike can be a good alternative. While you have main lines of transportations there are still places where an individual and not a group needs to reach. However bikes are not that popular in the US, and it seems like it isn't easy to change that (e-bikes could be a solution).
As cities become bigger you do get the issue of industrial zones getting bigger and a separate part of town due to the building and zoning requirements. We are talking about production companies, not service companies like an IT company, as they aren't a potential safety or noise hazard if placed in a merchant or mixed district. You could make cities that didn't have production jobs, or specialized health care facilities, but then you are very much limiting the type of people able to live there.
15-minute cities simply aren't that plausible on a scale of people over 500k. The whole idea of cities is to minimize energy expenditure for the individual in the first place, the whole issue of them becoming a mess over time is due to changing requirements and needs. While 15-minutes city in theory could work out, there will undeniable be some change down the road and as a result a rise in entropy (chaos/disorder) due these changes and compromises need to be taken. While the conspiracy theorists may be spinning wild stories, the point is that in Europe, most cities will have your daily needs including your doctor within 15 minutes of travel (on bike).
People do locally optimize their living conditions such that they can spend as little time as possible on transportation as possible, so that they can use that time on something else like their family, friends and hobbies. The issue is mainly work, as workforces have been more and more specialized over time, and jobs do tend to change a lot more now than let's say 30 or 50 years ago, where somebody could work in the same company for their whole life.
On the topic of millionaire cities or company cities. It has been done before, and the only example of a company city still existing in a western country is Reedy Creek in Florida. Yes, it is a shitshow, no arguing about that. A billionaire doing it with his company will likely be done with company scrip and serious underpay, because it will make it harder for people to live. Same as most other failed company city concepts. USSR did also have project cities, but they weren't that good either. Don't get my started on the shit the nobility pulled of in my country back in the 18th and 19th century.
btw. Flying cars are helicopters.
The 23 special wards have 9 million people or so, and are pretty close to being 15 minute cities by bike. It applies for daily and weekly necessities at least.
The reason people used to stay in the same job for decades is because they received more equitable pay. It has nothing to do with "increasing specialization." The longer you stay in a job the more specialized your skillset becomes...
As for the rest... it's hard to comprehend your point. You say you live in a 15minute city... but they can't work because?? Industrial sectors need to be separate? Ever heard of public transport? I work in heavy industry and guess how far my commute is by car? less than 15 minutes. It would be even quicker with a high frequency rail system that is specifically designed to meet shift needs.
@@chazdomingo475 I am saying it is not easily scalable. The reason for it working here is that the traffic isn't dense and a relatively large part of people do come from out of town.
Industrialization and urbanization does breed specialization, which is also a factor you will have to consider, and if you have people working in different sectors it will always be a compromise between the distances to each workplace, or that people will be assigned to the same sector. Sometimes people do in real life choose to live near one of their parents because of sickness or just because they can take care of the children, when they are working.
15-minute cities aren't impossible, but there are many choices that easily could lead to unhappiness and top-level control (dictatorship of the town, by either corporate or political means). This is really not a good selling point. People don't want corporations or the public to dictate their private decision like that. Buying and owning property is one of the biggest private decision you can do, and people have fought for that right all the way back before civilization.
I think that is a lot more reasonable and grounded take than the OG RUclips video had, so much eco facism in his video.
Better urban planning is important. But 15 minute city's would not be a magic bullet infact for a good 1/3 of people thay would not be fit for purpose. A lot of the principles are great and can be used.
Decentralization of everything is good, including government. “The best government is that closest to the people”- Thomas Jefferson
15 minute hexagons! 😅
I dont think we need to redo our American cities all we need to do is to add good shaded sidewalks. Look around some streets dont even have a sidewalk and the side walk needs to be within a ratio of traffic and speed. Examplr 55 mph street cannot have a 3ft sidewalk
Walmart is turning Bentonville and NWA into a version of a 15 minute city. It is already expensive and even though they are building a lot of bike paths, they are doing next to nothing about vehicle congestion. I have never lived somewhere with such hostile drivers. My prediction is people will still walk up to the top of the parking garage to drive 5 minutes and spend half an hour finding a parking space. And that’s people who live in the city. For the same cost of living, you can have a McMansion outside of town. So traffic will always be a problem since they aren’t actually prioritizing walkability. Yes a sidewalk is nice but when it’s next to a road with people driving 60mph, it feels incredibly unsafe.
One of the big flaws with public transit, is the severe lack of "crosstown" service. Transit systems are almost always designed around getting people to-and-from the downtown area. Only half of the people are commuting/traveling to downtown. Yet, transit systems/companies perpetually consider crosstown lines to be money pits. This leaves cars as the only practical means of crosstown travel. This has been one of the biggest complaints about public transit for literally 100 years.
Bikes?
You should see how Japan builds public transport. Could get around the majority of the country on several really efficient train lines. Would be nice to have that in the US but our major cities have been built so far apart.
@@rojaalborada I'd be happy if I could get around my city faster, I could care less about being able to get around the country super fast. Also the us is big, japan is tiny.
@@MegaLokopo JapAN Is TiNy!!!11!
japan is the size of america's east coast.
that is NOT tiny!
@@rojaalborada Bullet Trains travel at 200KM/h or over on average depending on terrain and model of the train. Cars can barely keep an average speed of 100KM/h so using trains to get to far distances is actually a sound idea and makes more sense than a car unless you're planning on taking some scenic route and don't really care how fast you arive at your final destination.
You consider the WOF to be Right Wing? You don't understand how real people on the Right think. Why don't I live near where I work? Because I don't want to. I want to live in a low density area where it's peaceful and quiet. I find it funny that you downplay the conspiracy theorists, but in your last section you list things that feed those conspiracy theories. "Oh no, we're not going to force you to stay in the 15min city, but we are going to make it harder to travel long distances by ruining air travel and ruining tourist areas."
I will never understand living without a car for personal transportation. Even if I lived someplace with better public transportation I would still want my own vehicle. If you don't own a car, you limit where you can go. How do you visit any place outside of a city with public transportation? How do you visit a rural area or nature area?
Also, the free market is 1000% better at deciding things than some central planner.
What a joke ! Say no to all of this garbage .
I live in England.. For most people few amenities are within 15 minutes walk. But for most people CCTV Surveillance Controlled Parking Zones are all within a few metres walk.... Oxford Council IS requiring Permission Slips to drive on certain roads more than 100-tmes per-year. This is NOT conspiracy.
That's super messed up!
As an American, I read that plan and theres no way I would ever want to live like that. I would love to live in a 15 minute city/town, but only so long as its free of control and to correct our normal life habits with force, not with a slight tweaking and introduction of convenience.
And to clarify, I'm not at all on the right. I'm an old school liberal, But one that reads news from all over the world. And yes, many of the right cry about is pure conspiracies, but theres some that are not. Especially when you read other documents and even published thoughts on said "Conspiracies". Or even the updates on how the Councils and local Gov officials react when their constituents vote down the crazy power grabs.
@@joshuakhaos4451 I'm a small 'c' Conservative, but because Britain has swung so far to the right, most folk consider my politics radically left wing. The Police in UK arrested so-called 'Anti- monarch protesters' before the Coronation had even gone ahead! Yet we're told monarch is here to defend our freedoms! You really couldn't make this shit up! The UK isn't becoming an Orwellian Police state, it is already an Orwellian Police state.
Given how Oxford has centuries old buildings listed as UNESCO World Heritage Sites, and how heavy traffic congestion affects the stability of heritage sites and structures, no wonder.
@Ian Homer Pura but they way they are doing it is oppressive, they latch onto a crisis and use it to increase their power and wealth. If you think I am wrong reference the covid response, it wasn't about health at all it was about making money and constructing a turn key authoritarian system.
Aa Somone who is been labelled as far right or even a nazi (any test show I'm stil liberal )
I dont have a problem whit 15 minutes sity I live in a village were I can do everything by bisicle
I'm fine whit the consent of it advocate for it in fact
But I do have a problem if you are going to enforce rater than provide a 15 minutes sity
yes that's the entire idea. Why would you ever have the impression that a self-described socialist is anything besides a psychopath who hates your guts?
Some people creating fifteen minute cities have got it all wrong. They are closing roads walling off entrances and exits and then they are keeping track of how many times a car comes in or leaves and planing to charging a fee if they cross too often or drive to far. If you are one of those people who has a real productive job and it's three miles away from your house and you drive back and forth everyday it mayl cost you alot, Because you are not a good citizen.
"Far right conspiracy theorists". "White supremacists". Conveniently manipulative buzz phrases.
A 15 minutes city it is not a new concept at all. Most of us from the previous generation use to live in places like that.
I grew up in neighbourhoods where everything we needed was at a walking distance, in fact we had corner stores in virtually every block and all of them were making a profit, along with shops of any kind ,even garages.
Today we have places like these with a little twist. These neighbourhoods don't have corner stores but plenty of fancy bakeries and cafes that are too expensive for the common folk, let alone the multiple boutiques that are closing every few months because they don't make a decent profit.
Instead of shops where one could find affordable clothing, they offer these boutiques that sell brand name stuff for outrageous prices.
Those places are for the fortunate ones who can work at home and make a nice income. The rest of us have to live in huge buildings, on top of each other, where the basic services suck most of the time.
What it is not contemplated in these places is that a lot of people can not work from home simply because of the nature of their occupations: trades people, nurses, factory workers and so on.
The only solution is to have a top of the line public transportation seven days a week that will turn all of our big cities into 15 minutes neighbourhoods, provided that these places are equipped with the services needed (corner stores, shops, etc).
Other than that anything else will be a privileged area for some and nothing more.
Greetings from Toronto.
"What it is not contemplated in these places is that a lot of people can not work from home simply because of the nature of their occupations: trades people, nurses, factory workers and so on."
Not sure why their workplaces cant be within 15 minuets of their homes.
A 15 minute city doesn't mean everyone works from home
Like yeah, those people were contemplated when talking about a 15 minute city. I don't know why you think they weren't.
The last part of the video briefly talked about de-growth, and why its necessary
@@skyisreallyhigh3333 Imagine being so stupid to think that is wise to reduce your working possibilities to a few miles. Some people own a house and will not move just to be 15 min away from work. THINK!
@@fabioxperuggia I find that the people who say "THINK" at the end of their tirade are almost always people who never actually THINK
Why wouldn't you want work to be no more than 15 minutes away? Why would your job opportunities be reduced with 15 minute cities? Do you not understand what building dense means?
@@skyisreallyhigh3333 If you pack people in that tightly you run into a hole host of other problems. many of them psychological, No thank you to that. Can you imagine having to form a queue to catch the lift to the bottom or top?
The job I was in until I retired was not supported by cities of a million.
@@petefluffy7420 I never specified how dense we need, so I'm not sure how you came to your conclusion.
I also never stated we need skyscrapers for density. Paris proves we don't with their density and only a single skyscraper and a handful of tall buildings.
"Can you imagine having to form a queue to catch the lift to the bottom or top?"
Can you imagine having to wait in traffic?
Literally the same thing
"Or be required to do so by existential force". Yet advocates of 15 minute cities claim that they would not ever do that. Yet the leaders of former Soviet Union, China, N Korea and Cuba sure believed that a means to an end requires physical force in human affairs and had no compunction about doing so.
I want a convivial city society as well. Great video and ‘de-growth’ makes so much sense. (But so unlikely to become popular) I hope people stay to the end to hear the leftist view. Maybe expand in another video
I'm curious what he plans to do with all of the workers who work in tourism industries. If you have only been to cities where you have exactly the same restaurants that you do in your home town travel is not important, but for the rest of us, traveling is an important part of our lives. Work for us is not the most important part of our lives.
Tourism in general in this sort of plan would be something I'd like to have seen covered more. He goes into what the right fears will happen, but doesn't address much of it in the leftist portion, except to say "we need to de-brand cities." Which I totally agree with. But I also feel like, as acceptable as a 15 minute city is, it would become VERY familiar VERY quick, and many people become bored with the familiar.
@@davidlathrop9360 What is the problem with being proud of the city you are in? You can't have enough variety in just one city. It would get so borring so quickly. It seems like this youtuber simply doesn't travel.
Communism has been tried since more than a hundred years ago. Keep trying, and I really hope one day it would work.
@@MegaLokopo You're still going to be able to travel and tourism will still exist.
It just won't be commercialized.
As an Algerian it's really strange hearing the American right and conspiracy theorists yap about the 15 min city thing, because Algeria is a developing country and our government is quite authoritarian and them worrying about being punished for leaving their 15 min confined area is HILARIOUS, my country IS a big 15 min city and in my entire life I've never heard someone being punished for leaving their area??, i mean you can be arrested for talking bad or making non-likable claims about the government that's for sure, But leaving your house???? I live in the 2nd biggest city in the country that has about 1.5 million people and still you can get around anywhere without having any issues, not a single a person or entity would come to question you about your place. Where i live i have everything i need in my reach, there's a neighborhood clinic about 3 min walk away from me, my University is a 30 min walk, i can get to downtown area in a 30 min route (usually the bus or the tram, you can take taxis or even uber(we don't have uber but different local companies that operate here)), and there are convenience stores, shops, groceries, and pharmacies in every corner you wouldn't have to think of walking to get what you need and want, and here I'm only talking about my city, you can go to wherever you want across the country without issues too, you can take the bus, or a boat(in the Coast regions), or provencial taxis, or even go to the ariport and take an airplane.. i mean that doesn't stop anyone from owning a car, you can buy a car super easily and get around however you want and go to wherever without having any issues with the government (because that's stupid to even think about). I guess the problem with the us is not mainly the cars but that Americans don't have any other choice except for cars, you can't go anywhere without owning a car and that's horrible, because Freedom of Choice right?
Good Point * We should not allow Billionaires to create 15 minute cities
You can't compare medieval cities with cities of the start of XX century with contemporary ones.
There was no time in history when this many people lived in the same city. And didn't need to go out of town to work on some factory.
Most of rhe cities today planned for majority of citizens to work in industrial sector, but the economy is already service based. Give it a little more time and good city planners and we will have dense multi-centered cities with mixed development and good public transport between centers.
What if your children live 25 min away?
I think leftists should build a 15 minute city for themselves and move there. All good as long as the rest of us can live and move wherever we like and then everyone is happy
15 minute cities are insane.
Why?
I live in Alabama most everything is within a 5 mile radius Walmart is 2.7 miles Winn Dixie 1.7 miles Burger King 1.6 miles sports plex next door state park and a big lake 7.5 mile from home really no need to own a car I do not
It's insane because it's working towards eliminating distance travel by living local, with vehicql going to batteries only that have an extremely limited distance of travel with an extremely long recharge time. Thus reducing how and where people can travel in essence keeping people confined to a small area to be confined, controlled and easily spied on. In which diminishes freedom's to live and travel as people wish. In theory it's nice, and eventhough it's restrictive and manipulative agents freedom's to live happily as people wish.
It's convenient, although is how and where you are being restricted to travel by other than what you want in your life, is it really convenient if at sometime you want to travel by means other than what is provided by you, and is traveling farther being determined by someone other than you okay with you? And if it is, why is it that you want someone to have that much controll over your life when it's not in line with living the way that you would want?
@@amandaraymond9488 You are aware that long-distance train travel always remains an option, yeah? No need to travel everywhere by car...
The take down of Tolosa (spelling?) Is pretty sweet though. Props for that. I especially like the long panning shot of a single occupancy, single track monorail through uninhabited desert to the metropol. Because sustainability will be provided by personal transit through empty land use on the least efficient transit design possible. Lol.
Looking at european towns: their probably all 15 min cities. I live in one of the biggest cities in Switzerland (yes, they are small compared to London, Paris, Berlin etc.) but i can do groceries within 15min walking. This includes a proper bakery and a farm shop with vegetables and meat directly from the farmer. If i need to go somewhere else, i reach the train station within 10mins by bike or walk 500m to the bus station and have a bus every 6min (12min on Sunday and during the night). From the train station i have direct trains to nearly every bigger city in Switzerland.
What we need to work on though, is the amount of proper, safe, bicycle paths. We have alot of the painted bicycle paths which just are not fun to ride and not safe.
What about not thinking that your ideas are the best for everybody? Some people like to live far apart from everything and drive a car and others not. All lifestyles are good
The 24/7 surveillance does bother me a bit...
You get that in most cities already
Whoa. There are still people who think we're not being watched as we are now?
do you really want to live 15 minutes away from a oil refinery? A steel foundry? do you really want to walk to the grocery store in Chicago in January? I think the idea is promising, but how exactly do you plan to retrofit existing cities, especially cities on the west coast that boomed after WWII. I just wish these plans were a bit more realistic.
They will tell you anything to secure their power.
Reactionary kooks: This is just a return to feudalism
Also reactionary kooks: We should return to Monarchism, for God, King and Country!
There is this little thing that humans like to have, it's called freedom, have you heard of it?
Yeah, much more freedom if I'm not forced to own a car in order to go and have a shit 😂
During the first minute I thought, wow this 15-minute city stuff doesnt sound so bad. Maybe the conservative alarmists were wrong.
Then came the rest of the video.
I live south of downtown Minneapolis - 39 blocks. I was able to ride a bicycle to work in 15-20 minutes. I can eat, drink, buy food, hardware, big box, auto stores, books are within 10 minutes via bicycle.
Crazy thing is, all of those things are true for me here in Orange County, California. The problem is there are no bike lanes on most streets, and those that do have a painted line with 3 ft of space that drivers constantly ignore when making right turns. Crossing an artery means crossing AT LEAST 7 lanes of traffic, none of which are looking out for you and half of which may be turning in your direction. It's too stressful.
I would like to see someone on a bike with one 3/4" sheet of plywood.
While I agree with lots of what you say, and conspiracy theorists be damned. But, lumping true capitalism into the crap pile with corporatism and cronyism is dangerous.
Here's my standpoint on lots of things:
1. American cities have been built around the car thanks to car manufacturers and oil lobbyists and that's created unlivable cities with horrendous quality of life for most citizens.
2. Most western counties are not capitalist at all, they are corporatist run by cronies and lobbyists.
3. the WEF are a bunch of corrupt, manipulative scumbags who care only about their bottom line.
4, Some conspiracies turn out to be true, so we shouldn't disregard them offhand purely because of who's pushing them, we should analysis and review.
5,. true capitalism is actually highly supportive of social outreach policies that support the bottom of the ladder, and should support climbing that ladder.
6. JP is mental at times and needs to stay in his lane.
7. the Oxford thing is idiotic, they have some crazy traffic and congestion, so introducing a congestion charge isn't novel, London does it, Cambridge does it, Edinburgh does it etc. who knows why people are leaping onto that.
8. Electric cars aren't going to solve anything long term, they are a bandage on a grenade wound, they take too long to be net 0 in carbon output due to current battery tech (lithium is evil)
9. Most governments suck at running anything, so I have sympathy with peoples opinions on that.
10. city sprawl is terrible and needs fixing and stopping, heck the UK is going the wrong way here (bedroom communities everywhere). But apartment blocks aren't a great solution either.
11. We need to remove our dependance on downtown areas, and build smaller, more sustainable communities not attached to an existing downtown.
12. I refuse to commute, ever. I either want to walk, or work from home (I currently and will WFH as long as possible).
13. its not people that's the issue, its companies propped up by governments, recycling, energy saving bulbs, electric cars, etc non of that matters, its companies and governments.
14. the housing shortage is all down to our reliance on the downtown and our terrible land uses. you can't just build more houses to solve this.
15. public transport sucks in the UK, so we need to push for improvements.
16. outside spaces are everything, flats/appartments aren't ideal for that, but building traces, multi storey, townhouses, mixed use buildings, removing massive parking lots, bulldozing satellite malls etc. open up those spaces for homes, parks etc.
17. build smaller, more local public services (shops, schools, doctors, fire etc). less massive, more frequent.
That is just my overall thoughts, I can go into massive detail on some, less on others. I'm not on board with this polarising idea of Left vs Right, socialist vs capitalist etc. Its to that simple, and demonising people who want more social outreach or those who don't trust the government to run anything is idiotic. And lumping capitalism into the same pile of rubbish as the terrible way things run now is not good enough. We need to understand how our systems actually run, and they aren't capitalist. Like at all. Its disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Free market, does not mean free to scrutiny or failure, a truly capitalist system wouldn't have bailed out the banks during 2008, they would have bailed out the people and let the banks fail, thats the free market, Free market doesn't mean letting the people fall, it means allowing the market to regulate itself. The banks failing was the market working, them being bailed out was the corruption supporting corporatism. Not capitalism.
A truly 15 minute city is only possible under a free market, but it needs regulation, social outreach, and decentralisation of city services.
I am surprised to see americans trying to invent things that already exist in Europe. Look at the Nederlands for transit solutions, to Vienna for housing solutions... it's like... the answers are there... they just don't wanna do it...
because any time they try to bring the answers here they always want to bring the authoritarianism too.
If they proposes changes to zoning laws, tax incentives, or development of infrastructure for public transit *WITHOUT* also trying to "solve" the "issue" of people driving "too much" people would be all for it. Yet we Americans have this nasty habit where we tend to favor liberty. I know, it's weird.
@@grimjoker5572 well... as I said... inventing the wheel. The Nederlands first started solving the problem of people driving too much... cause child death... but well, lets always have the cake and eat it too.
@@PabloGambaccini
_"The Nederlands first started solving the problem of people driving too much"_
This isn't a "problem."
People "doing something too much" isn't a matter for the government to fix. They are not our parents, our behavior is not for them to correct. If they want to offer better alternatives, alright.
This is why people don't like the ideologies you propose.
_"cause child death"_
Hyperbole.
_"but well, lets always have the cake and eat it too."_
Yeah, like Japan.
@@PabloGambaccini
_"never felt less free than in America"_
That's a you problem.
@@grimjoker5572 well... the goverment is the one paying for the roads. If we are gonna go anarco capitalist with it... let the drivers pay the full amount the roads for their cars cost for the state. But well saying liberty and then taxing everybody for an unefficient elitist transit solution is contradictory... as having your cake and eating it. There is no liberty when there is monopoly. And yes... I know,...why should I talk about child death when America the number one country for school shootings? 😂 but well... common sense, I don't know 😂
Its still so funny rightoids this 15 minute cities are an Orwellian dystopian jewish conspiracy theory lol
This won't work in Leftist strong holds within the US. The biggest issue is leftist Americans may want communitarian institutions/infrastructure, but don't value communities enforcing basic behavioral civilization standards on individuals. Essentially, the culture doesn't match the institution. Having lived in San Fran for a short period, I've taken the bart many times, of the 5 last rides, fights broke out with 3 of those rides. I also bike and walk a lot (kills two birds with one stone), and the issues with dealing with social dysfunction are magnified when you're out and about. Considering crime has been ramping up in the urban centers and the recent case in NYC, safety on transport this should be a pretty big known issue at this point.
Ironically, the best population that could utilize it would be conservatives due to the self discipline. I state this because to use a comparison, both the US and Switzerland have similar outlined macro healthcare institutions but have extremely different results for various reasons (size, culture, specifics within the law, etc). Implementing something poorly could ruin the idea, and I think instead of adding on to an unstable pile, you'd need to focus on some civilizational fundamentals prior.
I want to say this is perhaps one of the most important points; good transit also needs to focus on security of the riders aboard. People disrespectful of the infrastructure and others around them, accosting fellow riders with absurd behavior, assault, robbery, and in rare cases, homicide, need an active transit security. Without respect for the infrastructure put into place by the public, riders will be less inclined to use transit and instead seek alternative methods that work against the 15 minute city concept.
@@MarsonJohansen Leftists are against policing as well. So "focus on security of the riders aboard" will just be a dream.
@@MarsonJohansen Well, as a part of density, there's also the lack of 3-dimensional policing within individual buildings. For any building that isn't a brownstone or walkup with fire escapes on the outside, I would love to have basic security officers posted inside each lobby as they are now, but also on every three floors above that. Not every single floor needs officers stationed, that would raise tensions and give an authoritarian, security state feel, but having a responding officer that can reach the floors above and below by simply walking up or down a single flight of stairs would be a huge weight off my shoulders as a law-abiding citizen. They would be trained to be able to run up and down the three flights of their zone, and would be required to take an annual physical involving an examination of said training. Make it through in 90 seconds or less and you're golden. They would be trained in de-escalation tactics, sensitivity and the like, and would particularly be required to have a social workers' licence. They would be allowed to take noise complaints and would be required to be residents of the building they police.
It blows my mind that those on the internet who are opposed to public transport see fights everyday on public transport, but those of us who want more of it hardly ever see fights on public transport.
Really weird
@@shanekeenaNYC Why do you want to live in a police state?
Sorry but demanding free reliable rapid public transit is as pie in the sky as expecting flying cars.
Interesting, that this concept of 15-minute-cities exist. I lived in a big city like Berlin that is definetely not a 15-minute-city, except for the ones who can afford this. Since I switched to a small city I feel, what I chan reach everything in walking distance and it´s very convenient.
Why I wasted my life in Berlin?
Thank to this Documentary I know that there is a name for it: 15-Minute-City. It exists already since 500 Years ago. They are small cities in Europe.
And the Chinese have dense High-Rises-Residentials around a train station which makes everything very convenient and reachable and Urban Gardening on the roofs.
Berlin is a pretty walkable city though
@@diegorivera9197 Probably you live more in the center. There everything is pretty walkable ... if you can afford it.
The Grifter never delivered on his healthcare plan. It was going to be big, beautiful and cheaper.
Always a Con Man.
I have no problem with 15 minute cities, so long as they are not implemented by force. And so far, ALL of the plans for 15 minute city plans are being, or are planned to be implemented by force. They forcibly reduce travel, and choices for the people.
this.
Wichita has empty central areas that would be perfect for this.
Because cars reduce choices for everyone else, by removing space for public transit, space for cyclists and most importantly, space for pedestrians. You can't have both, because cars ruin everything by their inherent inefficiency.
What?! I live in London UK which has always been a 15 minute city in its 2000 year history, except for outlying areas built in the 20th century. The Mayor is implementing measures to make the city less hostile to pedestrians and cyclists, and really everybody because the primary goal is to reduce pollution, in particular ULEZ which adds to our existing congestion charge scheme. So you get charged more if you drive into central London with a high emission vehicle. However there is a scrappage scheme that pays people for their crap vehicles so they can buy something low emission, and the Mayor has also added bus ring routes that avoid central London, and increased bus frequency. If you haven’t been to London we have fantastic public transit with frequent buses, the Overground, the Underground, National Rail, trams, and the DLR (light rail). There’s also a city sponsored e-bike system (called Boris bikes locally because Boris Johnson, a Tory even, implemented the scheme when he was Mayor), and private bike hire schemes, plus bike super highways and bike lanes (though not through Kensington and Chelsea because toffs 🙄). It’s not perfect but there are tons of alternatives to cars. It’s hardly ‘by force’ here. Like you can still drive your gas guzzler if you want to, just that there will be consequences if you are dumb enough to drive through central London (and like, why would you want to? There’s barely any parking and never has been).
@@KatharineOsborne I was in London last July for a couple of days. Bus system took forever, and was expensive and confusing. What we are hearing is that in some neighborhoods, 15 minute city policies are enforced. There are cameras that record when you enter and leave, and you need permission to do either. Yes, London has statistically been a 15 minute city voluntarily. My only problem is when it is enforced. Oh, and London is one of the most dystopian surveillance states in the world. Almost as bad a Beijing. Cameras everywhere with facial recognition software. And Orwell we as a Brit.
I love and support 15 minute cities but decentralizing employment is not what will topple capitalism. Not to be the read theory guy, but read theory! centralization of production is one of the tendencies of capitalism which will be preserved through revolution as its far easier to nationalize a giant central corporation than hundreds of thousands of small capitalists.
Wef. You will own nothing and be happy.
Don't take it wrong i heard a lot about 15 min cities and on one hand it sounds like stuff that comunists were trying to do on the other hand it sounds like someone had good intetions.
But one thing is sure it will not work.
Me for example i have great dentist and i have no reason to find diferent one, he is 35km away, work promising that your work will be only 15 minuts of walk is imposible, what is i like chees that is only in one store and the store is on the other side of the city and i could find more examples, like barber, doctor, restaurant and many more.
Just trust me it will not work it was created by someone who thinks "If we force people to live like that world will be better."
The 'offer' made of 15 minute cities is not an offer though. It is a forced situation. Wer will not get all we need within 15 minutes, we will be denied what we want, or barriers will be artificially made so great. I say this living in a very walkable city in Italy, so I appreciate exactly the deal. Pure tyranny by 'the best brains' corrupted by power.
That might be okay as long as it never gets a wall around it!
The concept of having amenities nearby is good and should be implemented a lot more. In the Netherlands and many european cities that's already the case. Having work nearby sounds great on paper but lots and lots of people don't work in the same city they live in due to cost and usually both partners are working so its either close to his work or close to her work, not both. I also like leaving my city to visit friends and family go to a forest, a beach or travel to the countryside where there is no public transport and is way too far to ride my bike so i won't be giving up my car (which is an EV by the way, i do care about the environment) anytime soon. I will never want to live in a city that won't allow cars. And that's coming from an avid cyclist. If i'm only allowed out of the city a couple of times a year i will use that opportunity only once: To leave the country and go live somewhere else where i'm not a prisoner.
Exactly this; I actually don't like driving. It's stressful to me. Yet the only thing more stressful is having my livelihood in somebody else's hands. If the bus is late, if the bus driver has some kind of episode, I don't care what, it doesn't matter what, it's outside of my control and as such not a risk factor I can account for; yet a risk factor which can have drastic implications for my continued livelihood.
The issue isn't that people don't want cities where you can walk places, it's not that people don't want cities you can cycle places, it's that people also want cities that you can drive places. The solution is more options, not more control.
@@grimjoker5572 the way I see it is, and I believe the way this man describes it as, is that the public transit needs to be excellent. Most U.S. public transit systems are not reliable, frequent, or have very good coverage. An excellent transit system will have very few interruptions. As a driver you will often experience very frequent interruptions because of traffic. Sure as a driver whose commute requires me to drive, I am technically controlling my own vehicle, but I am still at the whim of traffic a force outside of myself. I don't see it as much different than taking transit where someone else is driving you since behind the wheel or not I'm relying on external factors and entities. At least if I had an excellent transit system I would know that these disruptions would be very infrequent, whereas I can reliably predict traffic on a large portion of my commutes.
I should add though that I don't think cars should be removed from cities, just prioritized very low compared to other modes of transit
@@Alessandro-vl8bu
Why not prioritize them equally? This is the problem. Every policy comes with the caveat of trying to "fix" the "car issue."
I like the idea of people living and purchasing where they like while enterprising business people note it and start conveniences in those areas. Or vice-a-versa. Once the government plans anything those things go to hades in a handbasket before long.
@@grimjoker5572 The real problem that should be fixed is corporations insisting on putting their businesses in the middle of cities. It is their choices that cause unaffordable living conditions. If they spread out people could live near where they work instead of commuting.
15 min city. Called anywhere outside the USA a city.
You may keep your cities sir. Ive lived in San Francisco when it was NICE. BUT I was free to come nd go as I please. Not interested sir
Cars for the rich only ,rd closers traffic calming measures make more traffic not to menshion the affects on small buisness which can be over come if you have shops in a multi storie blocks of flats to increase customer s to these shops which will be corporation owned.
Haven't laughed & learned at the same time in a while. Really enjoying your videos and will be sharing with others!
Look forwarding to more laughs & learns(?)
He lacks stem skills really nothing to learn here really has no knowledge of what he speaks of.
idve said 'learnings'
I have news for you....the concept of a 15 minute city is most definitely not "new". Every old world city developed before the the manufacturing age or cars since the beginning of time is a 15 minute city....just because you saw a RUclips video doesn't make it a recent invention...Wow, things actually existed 150 years ago! What a concept!😂😂
Finally someone with a funktioning brain
No way you could ever turn my area into a walkable area without holding everyone at gun point and demolishing everything. We will never see any changes. Dont know why we bother
Well now that's a pretty bad mindset, there is nothing more human than trying to achieve the impossible.
Weird, because we had to bulldoze cities to build highways. We made that change, wo weird you claim we cant again
yeh its good to have things close but i mean stalin and lennin did it first and well... we know how that ended up
I'm so glade that i found your channel, as I like knowing of people who are delusional.
so glade
Hey, I'd say do it if you want to do it. I on the other hand like my life just the way it is. I'm going to keep my motorcycle. I'm going to keep my SUV.
But I tell you what, I'm not unreasonable. I'll give up my car when Justin trudeau, Barack obama, Al gore, and all the other climate grifters give up their private jets and their yachts. Until then, well, things are just going to stay exactly the way they are, I guarantee it.
b.b.but climate change..diversity...more immigrants....more unemployment...more transkids
What if an entire town mysteriously burnt down and a billionaire volunteered to rebuild a 15 min city in its place? Like Maui. It would be awesome. Like a reservation. Native Americans love reservations. I already lived on a Rez. No thank you. I'm free now, not going back.
How purposeless and boring is your life that you have to seek out even the slightest annoyance and turn it into a vast conspiracy against your adherence and devotion to the current constructs of life? Good god!
Degrowth:
The idea that your life should be more about spending time with the people you love rather than breaking your back just so you can buy another toy
Example: the walkable city with affordable housing, and a 4 day work week with under 8 hours a day. Plenty of time to get groceries on your way back from work everyday and the rest of the week is time with friends.
I'd rather spend time with my friends.
Wouldn't it be grand to have the choice rather than to have it forced on you by the Uber-Wealthy? First is cajoling. Then come the social credits. Then the bullying. But I guess it will be okay as long as we don't realize before we die that we spent our last years in a gilded cage. (Well, hopefully gilded. Would truly suck if the cage became neglected by the cage owners because why wast your family entertainment time making sure the peons are doing okay?)
You can see the version of gilded cages likely to be the future of many in the cities where tent encampments line the streets. Perhaps the more upscale will live in shanty towns like the ones in South Africa. Communism always makes the standard of living of the masses worse. So why do people keep dreaming of some utopia that doesn't exist? @@veganconservative1109
You do you
You do what you like and model your life to suit you. And I'll model mine to suit me. I don't need any organisation that I didn't vote for, telling me what my life should be like or what I ought to want from it.
@@gemlouise1260 we don't have poop flowing through the streets like they did in ancient times because that's illegal now.
You can't just make life worse for everyone else and say that because you used to be able to do it, but you should be able to do it in the future.
I felt second hand embarrassment for you watching this. It’s not too late to take this down
tighten your foil hat buddy
When I was stationed in Korea. I loved how everything was so close to my apartment and in walking distance. If I wanted to go to a bigger store or the movies it was just a short train ride away as all the towns were connected by rail
Have you been in the prison? There's also everything so close. you possible would love it too.
@@scottc5674 your looney 🤪
The right wing was accurate about COVID though.
They merely replicated quarantine measures done in 1918. What was wrong this time though?
@@ianhomerpura8937 Why did they have to censor them?
A dislike here. While I'm a walkable city enthusiast myself and frankly would love to see the entire world turned into the Netherlands in this regard (and I'm a proud Not Just Bikes subscriber), I cannot accept tying it to a certain ideology or political movement, especially as criminal as communism. Like why are you even doing this?
I'm from Poland, I haven't experienced communism myself, but my parents and grandparents have and maybe they can tell you some stories about waiting in line the entire night just to buy groceries, not being able to visit family abroad, waiting a year in order to get a permission to get married, being displaced from Belarus to Poland by train with the journey lasting over a week, not having freedom of speech, living in poverty or even hunger. Or maybe uncle Stalin can take you on a wonderful journey to a gulag or Ukraine in 1930s, where 3 million people died of hunger. And don't tell me all these things happened because the countries were poor to begin with. Just compare East and West Germany, North and South Korea. Also my ancestors, living in a village, always had something to eat up until the "liberation" by the Soviets.
Like seriously, you in the West don't know what you're talking about when referring to communism.
But the west dose know how bad unregulated capitalism is, annnnd I'll be honest, it's a bit depressing how bad it can get.
So to find an ideological to help the people, and not get screwed over... well, yah.
Not saying your history and trauma isn't real or isn't something to point out. It's just something to state yknow.
@@gold3987 I'm not for unregulated capitalism either, I'm for a regulated market economy, but not freaking communism
@@mikikaboom9084 The problem is who would do the regulating? Becouse regulators in the Netherlands used the Dutch IRS to grind 10000s of people into debt, poverty and children taken by child services. The government can only make certain rules, when it begins to regulate it always goes to shit.
We in the west do.not what we are referring to.
We are referring to the future stateless,, classless, and moneyless society we would like to exist one day.
You can go on about how bad communism is, but capitalism has been doing genocides everywhere it goes. Where are the natives of North America? Oh yeah, the capitalists killed them off so they can steal the land and resources.
WW1 was caused by the fact that the European capitalist nations had all conquered the world and now they wanted to destroy each others empires so they could control them. WW1 was caused by the fact there was no more land to steal
Fascism is a form of capitalism, so the holocaust was a capitalist genocide.
USA also did genocide against Vietnam, Laos, and Korea. All for capitalist expansion.
Your parents have no idea what they are talking about and you're just repeating propaganda.
Maybe, I dont know, actually learn what fucking communism is and learn how incredibly violent capitalism actually is.
I think it's you that don't know what is communism. There was no workers democracy in your Country and left communists were killed in Gulag, It was just a caricature
'save the planet' ...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Living and working in the Netherlands, I am already enjoying a fifteen-minute city life.
How long does it take to cross the entirety of the country?
@@veganconservative1109 From North to South, the longest way, about three hours and twenty minutes by car. By bike, perhaps two days with stops, but you wouldn't do that unless you find it fun. Public transport in NL is awesome.
Leftie prisons, you can keep them!
this is a good video
I dont understand why people even have a reason to hate 15 minute cities. I just wonder if not a 15 minute city then what is the ideal city for them? A congested and polluted city where it takes hours to get to places?
The problem is it being introduced in places that aren't cities, increasing density when not needed and on people who dont want it.
@@elliotwilliams7421 I think thats a fair point but from what ive seen the majority of people think the government is trying to control them and take their freedom away which is straight up stupid. They dont wanna give up their cars because they think cars are freedom.
@@ruben4447 thinking it's gonna be a utopia is also stupid
The discussion has to be realistic and so far nobody has put forward a working plan.
So what if people don't want to give up cars? For some people it does give them freedom, whatever that means as it's different for every person
What's also stupid is thinking that not having a car is freedom. See folk saying that a lot too.
What's missing from the discussion is the human element, friends and family is never discusseed.
It's not realistic that most people will be able to live and work so close to work
@@elliotwilliams7421 No one says its gonna be an Utopia. Its gonna be an Utopia compared to what we currently have. I also didnt say i wanna completely get rid of cars. Trust me as a car guy i totally understand why people dont wanna get rid of cars. But what i was thinking of is to give people more choice. Choice is true freedom. There should be more transportation options for people with various wages and disabilities. A government that forces you to buy a car in order to get to any destination isnt really freedom. The goal was never to completely remove cars but to balance it out in adding more variety in transportation options.
@@ruben4447oh no, this is a direct attack on drivers. Limiting their chances of having one forces folk onto public transport.
This is a corporate heaven.
Corporations want you out your car and at your desk or spending money.
.other side......the concept does not work onve youbthink aboutbit.
Move past the propaganda and buzz words and there is nothing that works
imo any new urban utopia needs at least %50 minimum green space with farming/food production being a priority
Yup but you will always have leftist pigs who destroy it
Plug up the volcanoes that's what i say
It's relatively easy to come up with 15 minute cities when most of the jobs are office work. But what about factory jobs, or farming communities? In the case of the former, are we going to build more "company towns?" In the case of the latter, how are we going to attract the necessary services to make 15 minute farm towns?
bro if the offices stay empty we can plant weed in the empty buildings.
Besides, it's not about doing everything in a "15 minute" city plan, I don't want to be 15 minut3s away from a powerplant. Of course you can use your judgement to see where we can implement walkability based on common sense.
Obviously cars still play a role in rural communities where distances are far for things like work, which is often in a different nearby city from where you live.
Yeah, I think that's one of the few realistic issues in 15min urban planning but I guess the solution is "as always" communication over marginalization. Make sure there's a efficient way of public transportation and probably more descentralized (but interconected) villages
This was invented thousands of years ago, it's called a farm.
A farm does not have a doctor, a postal office, a market. A farm is a farm not a city.
eat ze bugz
You work for klaus don't you? no to any of this, just no, and Forced by who BTW?
Commutes are only about 1/4th of all trips, trip-chaining notwithstanding.