DJI O4 Air Unit Vs Walksnail? Which Should I Pick? - FPV Questions

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @franciscohompler2773
    @franciscohompler2773 13 дней назад +95

    funniest bardwell video i have evr seen 🤣

    • @PHporai
      @PHporai 13 дней назад +2

      For sure😂

    • @Mr.Laidukas
      @Mr.Laidukas 13 дней назад

      For a long time I feel that Bardwell videos have standup comedy aspect that I like :)

    • @sketchpv3080
      @sketchpv3080 8 дней назад

      I think Bardwell has been hanging out with Blunty lately if you know what I mean.

    • @mariobeans
      @mariobeans 2 дня назад

      lol for reals. that cable throw did it for me. i hate that thing

  • @ADfpv
    @ADfpv 13 дней назад +38

    Neo flying the WS or HDZero killd me 😂

  • @BrandonBeans
    @BrandonBeans 13 дней назад +42

    Maybe the best JB livestream clip ever 😂

    • @WindjumbieFPV
      @WindjumbieFPV 13 дней назад +1

      IKR BB i'm here thinking the same thing

    • @bantyFPV
      @bantyFPV 13 дней назад

      Should've been there live last night to hear him go off on stormy FPV, bloody hilarious 😂😂😂

  • @PrinceAlbert408
    @PrinceAlbert408 13 дней назад +15

    The thing about Walksnail Moonlight is I just bought a Moonlight kit for $110! I guess when RUclipsrs start shooting down products, the price drops? Thanks JB... i can't wait for you to shoot down another product, so i can afford it. Lots go JB!!

    • @zawseh1553
      @zawseh1553 13 дней назад

      damn wherd u find that!

    • @adamneff1600
      @adamneff1600 12 дней назад

      @@zawseh1553 aliexpress

  • @redcobra1246
    @redcobra1246 3 дня назад +1

    Completely agree. DJI, as much as i don't like it as a company, makes it so easy to plug and play and not have to worry about all the other bs

  • @Foremi
    @Foremi 13 дней назад +17

    IDK, when the Goggles X came out I went walksnail because of the 1s options and then was pretty happy with the moonlight and all the different options. I have a fleet ranging from a 1s 18650 fractal wingman or meteor65 to a 7in long range all on walksnail.
    But my god I wish they would focus on quality control and reliability. I am sending my Goggles X in for the 3rd time with a moonlight that was dead in the box.

  • @island_aerials
    @island_aerials 13 дней назад +10

    The Matrix reference is gold man, you’re something, I didn’t know you have it in you, congratulations 🎉

  • @MBACK44
    @MBACK44 13 дней назад +14

    Bro full bardwell crash out is so fuckin funny yet so valid lmao

  • @neopro2783
    @neopro2783 13 дней назад +9

    "Put me back into the Matrix" GOLD!!!!

  • @CarlosChavez-gs1ld
    @CarlosChavez-gs1ld 12 дней назад

    I have been watching your videos regularly for about a year now and this is hands down the best, and most entertaining one ever- and I will be damned if I am not having a steak tonight!!!

  • @Shins_FPV
    @Shins_FPV 13 дней назад +16

    if Keanu Reeves is flying WS then nothing else matters to me :P

  • @Pulecocz
    @Pulecocz 13 дней назад +9

    Walksnail situation isn't that bad, binding is easy on my quads.
    Moonlight need of cable to connect both units for firmware update is dumb for sure, but you'll get that cable with the kit, so, just keep it safe?
    But for new pilots choosing their video system O4 (lite), 4k on 9g VTX and ~$300 boxer goggles if you're fine with 60fps/hz that is a very nice deal compared to similarly priced Walksnail system + Goggles L which will give you 1080p stream/recording.
    But might be Caddxfpv (Walksnail company) will have answer, but no new product out yet, don't trust the gossips, JB is very right about that part.

    • @rossanthony7573
      @rossanthony7573 13 дней назад

      Not even any rumours? As someone looking to buy in to the hobby in the next couple months.... Looks like it'll be DJI.

    • @superdstar2001
      @superdstar2001 13 дней назад +1

      @@rossanthony7573 How quickly we forget that DJI promised the 04 in October 2024. And their next drop will be 2027.

  • @CalebTyler
    @CalebTyler 13 дней назад +7

    "I entertain myself sometimes " JB 2025 😂😂

  • @mikehar2210
    @mikehar2210 2 дня назад

    I was there all the way thru the chuckles break...
    my guy !

  • @conorstewart2214
    @conorstewart2214 13 дней назад +3

    Just a note about cable connectors. JST is a brand, not a connector, they make all kinds of connectors. The common 2.5 mm pitch connectors tend to be a JST XH but they make all kinds of different sizes. So the cable that he needs likely uses JST connectors, just not the common larger ones that he has.

  • @dkfpv5835
    @dkfpv5835 13 дней назад +2

    That analogy was so funny that made my day thank you Bardwell

  • @b4566bb
    @b4566bb 13 дней назад +1

    It has taken me a while but I have grown to love this guy! What a great funny episode!🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂

  • @ValorArc_Designs
    @ValorArc_Designs 5 дней назад

    New to FPV and this channel,,, and this was great! Walksnail for me! 😂

  • @WindjumbieFPV
    @WindjumbieFPV 13 дней назад +5

    Love the Matrix analogy

  • @bradearl16
    @bradearl16 13 дней назад

    The matrix, best reference ever, LMAO, well done Bardwell, well done👏👏

  • @SyphenHouse
    @SyphenHouse 13 дней назад +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that jumper cable for updating the DVR firmware? A standard walksnail update cable into the vtx port can be used to update the firmware, sans jumper. I just did an update to a Moonlight kit vtx without the jumper as I needed to fix a sharing issue with the latest firmware. I did not use the jumper. The DVR board firmware hadn't been changed since I last used the jumper for that.

    • @dave3883
      @dave3883 13 дней назад +1

      What I think he meant was the DJI system has a standard usb-c plug.

  • @FPZzzz
    @FPZzzz 13 дней назад +2

    😄It's very hard to walksnail away from DJI once you have used it!

  • @HovvardHugheslab
    @HovvardHugheslab 11 дней назад

    Great answer! I personally love the WS and Moonlight kit. BUT about the cable... I think the same way too. Why, in 2024-2025, do we still need to connect two pcbs with a flimsy, thin cable? It's just USB 2.0 speeds-engineers could easily work around this with a simple multiplexer IC with software-controlled switch!

  • @petrokey
    @petrokey 13 дней назад +2

    Walksnail pro has better dynamic range then o4??
    I have to test it.. but at least moonlight definately has lower dynamic range then o4 (saw comparsion recently) and my dynamic range experience of moonlight is not so good...

    • @dexdevlon
      @dexdevlon 13 дней назад +1

      confused too, I thought o3 looked miles better in goggles compared to pro or moonlight camera

    • @mongohands
      @mongohands 13 дней назад

      I think Chris Rosser just put out a video that compares all those cameras

    • @dexdevlon
      @dexdevlon 13 дней назад

      @@mongohands Thats vtx dvr not goggles dvr. Also it only includes moonlight camera not pro camera.

  • @lateball119
    @lateball119 13 дней назад +6

    Angry Bardwell is the best Bardwell.

  • @XxoMaGNuMoxX
    @XxoMaGNuMoxX 13 дней назад +4

    i love me a good bardwell rant

  • @ChrisHarmon1
    @ChrisHarmon1 12 дней назад +1

    I have all the systems, and all but the HDZero goggles will be sold in favor of my Goggles 3. They goggles 3 are more comfortable, have better viewing(largest optic to screen size/distance in industry), and it only weighs 0.2g at most, more than my 1s lite v3 VTX/Cam/MIPI from Walksnail. Using the Super X HD onboard 5v BEC holds the voltage right to the very end of my 1s 450/530/550 cells capacity, easily getting 4:30+ minutes of light flying around the house, or 3:00 of hardcore flying with 0802 27,000kv motors and 75mm HQ bi-blades, weight is 25.93g. I have the fractal boostybaby regulators, but with this FC, they aren't needed so far, time will tell if the 5v BEC with 1.5A rating holds up, because I am drawing it down to 4.3v - 4.4v during flight in race mode 1080p 4:3. The onboard battery is a bonus with the goggles 3, and if I need more they can be run off an external battery via XT60 to USB C cable.

  • @t0tobi
    @t0tobi 13 дней назад +2

    Loving these rants

  • @Ricpow80AkaNagamooto
    @Ricpow80AkaNagamooto 13 дней назад +3

    But the dji 04 lite is not 1s, it’s 2s and needs a bec to give the required voltage to power it on 1s builds (?)

  • @JIPPERR_1
    @JIPPERR_1 13 дней назад +5

    Bardwell the fpv sorting hat omg

  • @QuadMcFlyFlies
    @QuadMcFlyFlies 12 дней назад

    That cable chuck onto the table was the best part of this video, Hah.

  • @ThatGuyPhly
    @ThatGuyPhly 13 дней назад +1

    Bro this is legendary, JB!

  • @Indy64738
    @Indy64738 9 дней назад

    You’re wrong! Neo and Trinity would go full analog!!! 😅😅😅 Cool video!!! 😎😎😎 Cool shootout!!! 🤣

  • @MolokaiBoy_808
    @MolokaiBoy_808 13 дней назад

    For updating the ML without the update cable, I've used the v2 update cable connected to the port closest to the sd card to access the internal onboard storage of the v2 Vtx within the ML. Once it's connected copy the sky firmware to the vtx, remove cable and update as you would a normal vtx. Once it's updated, put the ML fw onto the sd card along with the independ_upgrade txt file. Insert the sd card into the ML, it should automatically update when it's powered

    • @olabergvall3154
      @olabergvall3154 6 дней назад +1

      That would be the red pill I presume? Sounds like kung fu to me ❤

  • @vovagild146
    @vovagild146 12 дней назад

    5:17
    and what about analog or openipc?)

  • @Shauny_D
    @Shauny_D 12 дней назад

    You think the 04 is enough to switch to if you already are in the walksnail ecosystem? For whoops mostly?

  • @user-ox7pb5us5g
    @user-ox7pb5us5g 10 дней назад

    As someone with analog, O3, and Walksnail - absolutely I'd go O4 if I could afford it.

  • @NRG_FPV-po4rx
    @NRG_FPV-po4rx 13 дней назад +2

    but isn't the new walksnail vtx supposed to be as cheap as some analog vtx?

  • @samuelskinny
    @samuelskinny 13 дней назад +4

    What’s sad is he is angry because he actually wants walksnail to be better but they are not

  • @plmtb3694
    @plmtb3694 13 дней назад +1

    HAHAHAHA WOW.. that matrix speach😂😂😂

  • @January_Cold
    @January_Cold 13 дней назад +4

    Caddxfpv needs to watch this video and take the blue pill. No onboard USB connector is asinine.

  • @Skytex1983
    @Skytex1983 13 дней назад +4

    You can tell how long Bardwell has been in the hobby when he gets on these rants and shows just how cooked he is over all the annoying little shit that never ends. It is always something with everything when all anyone wants to do is just to fly.

  • @olbeirdo8376
    @olbeirdo8376 13 дней назад +2

    most valid FPV take yet

  • @grrrooovhusa
    @grrrooovhusa День назад

    And how would you choose if you already own Skyzone 04X Pro without Walksnail VTX? New goggles with 04 air unit or Walksnail VTX with Pro camera? I only have 4s and 6s to care about.

  • @EricBishard
    @EricBishard 7 дней назад

    For me out a question of, should I try to replace all the walksnail hd avatar kit because DJI came out with the o4. Very obvious NO.
    Should I consider o4? Sure but that’s not the situation. It’s kind of insane that this question even comes up. Because your specific flying, existing build(s) and needs will dictate at any time what you need. Do you have DJI goggles and gear? If not, do you plan on buying them?
    I get so much value from my existing setup. And it’s working right now.

  • @redreefbud
    @redreefbud 13 дней назад

    I bought them both 😉 walksnail gt and 04 is on the way 😁 i plan on using the 04 with dji remote control 2 and integra 😁 should be fine for me. I haven't flown the GT much yet. Still finishing up quad 😉 it does have night mode and i like the goggles L better than my integras 😉

  • @eeftyfpv
    @eeftyfpv 13 дней назад +1

    I would join Neo too if I'm still young. Reaching 40s now and I just want to fly. Like i want to spend 30 minutes before work and I know I don't have to spend time to troubleshoot stuffs. DJI just work. And now they have Neo too 😂.

  • @emperorkalel
    @emperorkalel 13 дней назад

    Have you ever tested the skydroid t10?

  • @ImperialArmour
    @ImperialArmour 13 дней назад

    I'm still on the V2 goggles, and the improved latency and picture quality just doesn't cut it.

  • @rcfortheages
    @rcfortheages 13 дней назад +2

    to make the question balanced -- let's compare DJI 04 and Walksnail INCLUDING wireless head tracking. No one is comparing the head tracking possibilities.....

  • @HamptonFPV
    @HamptonFPV 13 дней назад +2

    DJI is like the Apple of drones and walksnail is Samsung

  • @JScrogg
    @JScrogg 13 дней назад

    at 4:50 perfect! lmao though who in their right mind would pick the matrix?

  • @flysquirrelFPV
    @flysquirrelFPV 13 дней назад

    💯!!! 😂😂😂 but for real gona watch the trilogy all night now! Thanks Bardwell! Lol

  • @McLogo76
    @McLogo76 13 дней назад +1

    I want to love the o4 lite but the 117.6 FoV just hurts.

  • @superdstar2001
    @superdstar2001 13 дней назад

    Haha I appreciate your take. For me personally, I would rather fly the Moonlight for personal use and never buy anything DJI ever again. I love pulling up to a bunch of dudes with grey goggles and I have the Goggles X.
    Rosser already did a video on Moonlight vs 04 so you don't need to find your little cable. It's not that hard to hold onto, either. Especially when you know you can't lose it.

  • @tito9107
    @tito9107 13 дней назад

    Ws still best at low light but unless you frequently fly at night then there's not much to think about, of course the o4.

  • @chrisalexthomas
    @chrisalexthomas 12 дней назад

    It is actually a JST connector :D it's just that there are various sizes of connector 1mm, 1.25mm, 1.5mm, 2.54mm. Probably you don't have the right size...

  • @WildpixFPV
    @WildpixFPV 13 дней назад +2

    Chris Rosser made the O4 Pro cam look pretty meh in his deep dive video. At least compared to the Moonlight VTX kit Cam.

    • @dexdevlon
      @dexdevlon 13 дней назад +1

      I personally preferred GoPro on good light, and moonlight on low light.

    • @MrTimmyGT
      @MrTimmyGT 13 дней назад +3

      The problem with Rosser and most of the other channels that do these deep dive comparisons on everything and get super nerdy is..they forget that at the end of the day we are just a bunch of nerds flying our toys around in a field, parking lot ot building. We aren't shooting super bowl commercials ffs!! So many people get lost in the weeds in this hobby that it blows my mind. Don't get me wrong, when I started flying fpv 11 years ago I did the same thing. My advice would be to stop over analyzing every system and just pick one. They are all pretty good, pick one and enjoy it!!

    • @WildpixFPV
      @WildpixFPV 13 дней назад

      @@MrTimmyGT This sounds a bit presumtuous to me. I started flying 8 years ago. Right now I try to find ways to get me back out there, being a bit addicted to shopping stuff I don't really need.
      But overall I agree, what you said will apply in most cases.

  • @thomascee
    @thomascee 12 дней назад

    😂😂😂
    Alright, HDZero it is for me 😂

  • @Dronealo_fpv
    @Dronealo_fpv 13 дней назад +1

    Yo he vendido hace poco todo mi sistema Walksnail, lanzan artículos incompletos, luego lanzan las mejoras por no haberlo pensado bien antes de sacarlo al mercado... He vuelto a analógico y dudo que vuelva a digital, si vuelvo voy a DJI sin duda.

  • @shadowofchaos8932
    @shadowofchaos8932 13 дней назад

    Joey Pants. He was in Goonies too.

  • @AParkin
    @AParkin 12 дней назад

    Now the 04 air unit is here is it worth upgrading the goggles 2 for the goggles 3

    • @G0llandec
      @G0llandec 7 дней назад

      Goggles2 also compatible with O4

    • @AParkin
      @AParkin 6 дней назад

      @G0llandec good point I'll just wait for the 04 goggles and update when forced to

  • @Dawe957
    @Dawe957 13 дней назад +3

    This escalated quickly

  • @DigitalCruzer
    @DigitalCruzer 13 дней назад

    Does the o4 "lite" version take an SD card for onboard storage? If not what is the onboard storage?

  • @דףיומיעםהרבמאירפייר

    👏👏👏 Bravo ! Bravo ! 👏👏👏
    But WS has a 199$ digital box google.... Give me the red pill , quick....🌶️🌶️🌶️🌶️.....

  • @swissfreek
    @swissfreek 12 дней назад

    I love that you can immediately recall that the character’s name is Cypher, but you can’t remember the blue pill 😂

  • @jungleb
    @jungleb 13 дней назад +4

    You are a youtuber, you have all cables

  • @matthewcardona4085
    @matthewcardona4085 12 дней назад

    Lol .😂😂😂Was that an o face exposure. Love it ❤ plug 🔌 me back inn!

  • @BoaSnakeFPV
    @BoaSnakeFPV 13 дней назад +1

    Omg😂 Hdzero = Neo🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrWheezyE420
    @MrWheezyE420 2 дня назад

    I love that little laugh at the "I'm becoming a man" joke

  • @bantyFPV
    @bantyFPV 13 дней назад

    Should've heard him going off on StormyFPV last night 😂 "Wash my car stormy" 😂

  • @GardoRotor
    @GardoRotor 13 дней назад +4

    The thumbnail says it all

  • @Lowbattery_fpv
    @Lowbattery_fpv 10 дней назад

    Neo fly analog, like me 👊👊

  • @ugpfpv361
    @ugpfpv361 13 дней назад

    Funny stuff, the way you crack yourself up😂 Surprised that you said the GT for freestyle... I've got one for my LR cinematic with a gopro, but wouldn't have thought of it for freestyle, hmm
    Id be in 04 in a second if the ips on the goggles was wide enough.

  • @kevinanderson1096
    @kevinanderson1096 9 дней назад

    Awesome movie

  • @joelong6472
    @joelong6472 13 дней назад

    I was trying to make lunch while i listened... until I just lost it and was forced to comment. Thanks. 😂🤣😂
    I've got every system, but the 04. I'm getting rid of all of my DJI and will be going IPC from meow on. Just working into it. Lmao

    • @maxbls16
      @maxbls16 13 дней назад

      Is IPC user friendly yet or do I still need to diy with a Radxa 3 or whatever?

    • @joelong6472
      @joelong6472 13 дней назад

      @maxbls16 That, sir, I do not know... yet. I've got everything together to get things going with it. Just gotta find some help with spinal injuries before I can do much.

  • @EliteFpv
    @EliteFpv 13 дней назад

    Congrats on becoming a man. “Why oh why didn’t I take the blue pill” Love the Matrix. Best JB video ever. Also how long did it take you to find that F’n cable you threw into oblivion? 😆

  • @petrokey
    @petrokey 13 дней назад

    I bought a set of jst 1.25 and sh1.0 connectors and pliers on aliexpress)

    • @petrokey
      @petrokey 13 дней назад

      Ah, not a jst... Oops

  • @TimsDrones
    @TimsDrones 13 дней назад +1

    You haven't flown the 1s indoors have you - it's better at low light than the DJI 03. I don't have the 04 Pro in hand yet, and haven't ordered the crippled 04 lite. But am interested in comparing the 04 and 1s Walksnail indoors - due to the fact that my current 1s walksnail beats my current 03 indoors, regarding low light - which is something you have to handle, flying indoors. I will note that my 03 has better penetration indoors, than does the 1s Walksnail. But how's that 04 low light camera????? As good as the 1s Walksnail????? Eh?

  • @argentinaerialsFPV
    @argentinaerialsFPV 13 дней назад +2

    7:12 normal fpv pilot updating any digital hardware 8:38 ( more laught )

  • @TeslaNick2
    @TeslaNick2 13 дней назад

    Brilliant and very helpful.

  • @RCRitterFPV
    @RCRitterFPV 13 дней назад

    I have the moonlight and the 1s... The Dominators are super comfortable...
    but DJI just does everything soo much easier..
    it's Linux vs Apple...

  • @kevintmckay
    @kevintmckay 10 дней назад

    the struggle is real

  • @PracticalFPV
    @PracticalFPV 10 дней назад

    I've been flying fpv since 2016 dji has always been proprietary bs I refused to drink the coolaid then and I refuse to drink it now. Walksnail has been awesome with fatshark Goggles I don't regret the decision at all.. my question is when is someone going to come out with something that works with all 3 systems.

  • @aphinion
    @aphinion 13 дней назад

    Dunno. In Chris Rossers Side-By-Side Tests I actually picked the WS as best Camera thinking that must have been the O4. I don't know where all that blooming and this way too low dynamic range comes from it presented in all this test footage... Let's see how it develops in the next months :)

  • @RufioReed
    @RufioReed 12 дней назад

    Good laugh there.
    Lol hahaha matrix steak yummy😅

  • @0BirdsEyeView0
    @0BirdsEyeView0 13 дней назад +1

    Very Good!

  • @andrebenjamin3289
    @andrebenjamin3289 13 дней назад +1

    Bro Crashout Bardwell is top tier😭😭😭

  • @Magneticitist
    @Magneticitist 13 дней назад

    Are things like 1s ready devices really all that important? I mean aren't they going to require a step-up driver either way even if they are built in? An FC for the O4 is going to have that and while it's not the easiest thing to get for cheap (and high quality) it doesn't seem all that hard these days to get ~5V ~2-3A from a 3V supply. Off the shelf USB-C converter boards using 1S cells are already doing this. I don't get why guys don't use Walksnail in the air almost always, especially if they plan on long range fixed wing flying. I mean just since it takes hardly any effort to set them up and bind. I only find O3 (or O4 as well I guess) to be superior as far as the penetration handling within the hard cap. The fact that I can use Walksnail in damn near complete darkness kind of gives it that edge IMO. As someone who has yet to really get a bunch of builds all setup I'm not sure what the downsides to using Walksnail would really be If I'm just flying for fun around no one else etc. I've just been comparing the two using RC cars trying to get a feel for the best approach to drone builds. With no concerns for things like software compatibility etc it seems like Walksnail's only downside is not quite being able to go as far (on the ground), but of course the complete opposite happens in the air when the DJI hard limit comes into play.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 13 дней назад

      Since the o4 doesnt have GPS that should mean that it has no hard cap shouldn't it? It will have no way to know the distance.

    • @Magneticitist
      @Magneticitist 13 дней назад

      @@conorstewart2214 Oh with the O4 I have no idea if it has one or not. I think people will have to find out the hard way.

  • @panlukynek
    @panlukynek 13 дней назад +1

    my first Bardwell stream and THIS happens 💀

  • @rasmus80g
    @rasmus80g 13 дней назад

    What about OSD for one. Even if dji is better in some ways there is just so many more options with walksnail. So if one system walksnail all the way

  • @jj_0
    @jj_0 12 дней назад

    I would buy a tshirt that says "this is why i want to go back to the matrix!". :D

  • @skupper672
    @skupper672 13 дней назад

    HAHAHA EPIC!! TY!! ❤️💪‼️🙏💥

  • @dave3883
    @dave3883 13 дней назад

    I tried with my walksnail moonlight and it will not work at all; now I have to go back in and erase that off. SD card. Find the cable and update them all together again. I’m in the same boat.

  • @eddie3045
    @eddie3045 13 дней назад +1

    Walksnail I give you one more chance, offer me a pill that convinces me to leave the matrix and buy the system. Walksnail I give you this year 2025 to convince me, because I'm still using analog, if in this year 2025 I don't see that it's worth it I'm going to go eat my delicious steak with DJI and it will be my definitive digital system, just one more chance to choose the blue pill or the red one depending on what these two companies offer and I'm sold.

  • @birdetta
    @birdetta 13 дней назад

    Walksnail / Caddx is nice for low light. That's basically it.

  • @Crucifer_Immorta
    @Crucifer_Immorta 13 дней назад +1

    Hilarious matrix analogy

  • @superdstar2001
    @superdstar2001 13 дней назад

    How quickly we forget that DJI said the 04 would drop in Mid 2024. Moonlight beat the 03, 04 is ahead for now.

  • @simsonyee
    @simsonyee 13 дней назад +1

    I love videos of angry bald men shouting! More JB :)

  • @mfrfpv9079
    @mfrfpv9079 13 дней назад

    Dji ❤😂 I have both