@@georgewilson4245and how do you know the quality of these ships? Are you a ship expert or another youtube warrior coping? Have u even set foot in china before? Lol
Americans often say that they have quality but they seem to have forgotten that they won World War 2 thanks to their superior number of ships compared to Japan. And love to all my Sinosphere brothers ❤️👍 G'day
Im not sure the US has quality anymore. Look at Ukraine, HIMARS, HARM, military drones are all failing due to jamming and other measures. These are extremely expensive munitions that have mostly lost their bang for buck on the battlefield to the point where the Ukrainians dont even want some of these weapons anymore. US weapons might look pretty but for the most part they are not built for real war. Just the other day a photo of a US nuclear sub going to sea covered in rust, F-22's coatings have this bad rust all over them. Quality? I dont think so - they may look pretty but that doesnt equal quality.
At the last Congressional briefing by the Pentagon, it was said that China had 14 naval shipyards to America's 4. These yards stay busy because they build both PLAN and civilian ships. China is the world's leader in ship building.
How old are you? 10? Who cares how many shipyards they have you idiot. This is why people like you won't ever be a general because you think like a private. China does not have the natural resources in abundance to wage war, They have to import everything, including the raw materials that make steel, China does not have a stable electrical grid, no fuel or gas they have to import everything, China's naval fleet runs on gas, They have a few type 93 subs that have reactors but 98 percent of the fleet requires fuel, those subs will be among the first to be targeted. Grow the fugg up man if America needs to build more ship yard they can do it overnight, just like they can reactivate closed bases. Its cheaper profit-wise to build stuff overseas for the corporate slave masters that way they double their profits. If we have to go to war we will see a change overnight in the manufacturing of war goods.
This is why the U.S. needs to use its allies to close the gap. Mistakes have been made and it’s too late to go back and fix them in the short term. We should instead task Japanese and South Korean ship yards with building up our fleet. Let Carriers, Cruisers and Destroyers be built in the USA while the Frigates and corvette size vessels are built overseas to our designs. Or at least spread the work out. There is some good new though. The Philadelphia shipyard was just bought by South Korea’s largest ship builder so hopefully they can fully restore it and we can start making warships there again via the SK company.
Chinese workers are hard working, driven to succeed, and take great pride in their work. This is not just a cultural phenomena, Chinese love their country because their country takes care of them and has visibly improved their quality of life. American workers are lazier and resentful because they see the great inequality which exists in their society and don't feel like their efforts are being rewarded. Most Americans are barely surviving and realize that their government doesn't give a damn about them when it can send hundreds of billions to Ukraine and Israel but can't find money for social security or infrastructure maintenance. This is why China keeps getting better at everything compared to America.
It is true the Chinese love their government but their government does not take care of them At all. This is either a bot or someone who does not truly know what's going on in china. Cause as of right now they are not far off from America. Mass stabbings almost every day, stabbings targeting schools, buildings collapsing due to poor construction and corrupt ass officials and the victims families of building collapses due to poor constructionget turned away from government buildings and told to stop posting on their social media about it. Reason u don't hear about these is they censor the absolute shit out of their media. Ever heard about that time a failed rocket launched wiped out an entire village in china?You can't even film a house fire without being told not to film by some official. Do not get me wrong china has come a long way but they fake alot of shit to
Just consider how much profit the military industrial complex needs to skim off in the first place? Maybe US the high cost each weapon will probably let the Chinese build 2 or more of the same item at higher quality, right?
It is closer to infinitely better, because a lot of US military spending doesn't actually yield anything. Take the Zumwalt as an example . In the end it was $24.5 billion for 3 ships. and only 2 are now active. For the same cost, China would have built 27 type 055 destroyers ($888m each). A 10:1 advantage.
@@nickl5658 Zumwalt couldn't even afford its ammunition, and it barely have any proper operation because its design re full of flaws, the navy simply couldn't use it, except for testing purpose, but this ship wasn't designed as a test ship at the first place..lol
@@PurpleDoritos666No one in the US is afraid of China. Most of their naval ships are second hand parts from Russia from the Cold War. And when they do build something new, they just copy everything the US has but with minor changes.
@@PurpleDoritos666 They are very contradictory, on the one hand, they say that China is poor and backward. But on the other hand, when it comes to China's advanced weapons, is the intelligence of Americans lower than that of Indians? Will a poor and backward country have the money to research advanced weapons???? Is it because too many Indians are in Silicon Valley? Causing a decline in the intelligence of Americans? Always telling jokes about hitting oneself in the face
China’s ship building has greatly benefited from economy of scale and intelligent planning by China’s leadership. Their investment in improved shipbuilding processes/technology makes them able to corner the world ship building market based on lower cost. Also top planing keeps the workers steadily employed, and the skilled workers are the key enabler of their success. Compare this to the US administration jerking auto manufacturers around by policy and overriding politics.when the administration forced GM and Ford to commit billions to EkectrIc Vehicles before they were ready, they fell flat with overpriced poor performing EVs doomed to fail against comoetion from Tesla (and now China). The administration went so far as to call Ford the world leader in EVs and literally ignored the existence of Tesla. The resulting big fails of GM and Ford were disruptive and costly. Compare that to China’s approach to many industries, where government policy and material support build centers of world leadership
How long have you been ignorant and ignorant? The so-called "G7" - the seven major industrial countries, in fact, their total industrial output value is not as much as China's
By logical extension China's efforts to strengthen their military aircraft manufacturing would be greatly boosted by a thriving commercial aircraft industry - from design to production, from certification to MRO. This also means inevitable conflict with the American giant, Boeing. In the opposite direction, if the United States loses commercial aircraft manufacturing to other countries, then their military aircraft manufacturing will also suffer as a result.
Los estadounidenses ven todo como un juego de ganar y perder. Que los chinos progresen no significa que los estadounidenses no sigan siendo ricos o más ricos. El problema está que querer que china no progrese eso es un comportamiento destinado a la agresión
*You could have broken this up into two videos:* 1) Partial History of ship building at a few shipyards. 2) Rare Look into Chinese Naval Shipyards ....
That's fair enough. I do think the modern history of Chinese shipbuilding is important to understanding why China now outbuilds the US (and everyone else). There's so many steps that was taken to ensure today's shipbuilding dominance. But yes we could do more segmenting of videos.
Most military equipment made in China is modular. For example, shipbuilding, there are 200 shipyards doing different division of labor. Then these modules are shipped to the headquarters for assembly.
You talk about things you have no knowledge of cause you dont wanna give them the credit they deserve, they build all those ships by themselves they dont need foreign consultant nor vendor, they have all the expertise and know how locally
You still want to feel good by trying to portray that the Chinese people can only achieve this through hiring foreign experts, but you are dead wrong, they are very capable of doing things on their own. Just look at China's space program for instance.
Not so fast kid Even if they get lot of warship but with zero experience of real combat It would end up like RUSSIAN BALTIC FLEET 1904-1905 No matter how Advanced weapons you got but if you had zero experience then that weapon nothing but SCRAPS METAL
@@WhyyouSodesperate So why does the us military, which has experience bullying small countries in the past few decades, often choose to avoid "freedom of navigation" in these waters whenever the PLA conducts military exercises at sea?😂 Stop laughing at russia, us is no better For recent example, the us military which has the experience of real bullying small countries in the past few decades, was still successfully attacked by the houthis, not to mention the great escape in afghanistan.😏
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@WhyyouSodesperate 1904 ship aint shot by software today all guns missile control by software idiot
Thanks for compiling this short history of naval yards. Since Chinese shipbuilding and 'modern' naval operations goes back into the Qing dynasty, the picture is incomplete - e.g. considering the tradition of deploying several fleets, instead of one as in the West (Mahan). But collecting *structural* evidence that offers *systemic* context to current diplomatic events is more useful for political and military analysis than just a comparison of equipment stats - as it is _a fetish_ in the West.
This is one of the better videos about China's shipbuilding capacity and you are correct. Western shipyards are far too dependent on government contracts and is one of the reasons our warships cost double or even triple that of China's. At this rate, we simply can't keep up.
United States barely has any commercial ship building orders is why they are falling behind…..their shipyard live on congress’s budget means shipyards don’t make any profit……while Chinese shipyards can create profit by making commercial ships. My parents’ company used to work with Jiangnan shipyard, tbh the current ship building speed is far from reaching the limit, the shipyard’s major focus is still on building commercial ships…..since building warships doesn’t make a lot of money.
You sir think like a most fools, Money drives the world. Profits is the name of the game. China has to import everything needed to build anything. Corporations build there because of cheap labor. Because of China's cheap labor it leads the world in steel production. It's cheaper for a company to ship the resources to China for manufacturing. China leads the world in steep production, but China has to import the iron ore from Australia to make the steel. How long will China be able to make steel during war? China imports 174 billion dollar worth of ore to feed their steel building industry. Just like everywhere else in China people will simply leave China because of all the drama produced by the CCP. Without Australian ore China will not be able to produce steel or build ships. So to say that China has 200 shipyards don't mean a damn thing because China does not have its own source of ore. The same thing applies to oil, to fuel your war machine, ships, tank, planes, trucks. If war broke out today do you think those 200 ship yards would be able to build a damn thing? This was the one thing Japan knew before attacking America was waking the sleeping Giant they gambled and lost. America alone has all the resources to manufacture war waging materials. Today It would take a bit of time but if we had the need to ramp up production it would happen quickly without importation of any raw materials from outside sources. With the symbiotic relationship with our partners relative to treaties nothing can stop the American war machine.
The other reason is the total incompetence in the US Navy Bureau of ships-examples: the USS Zumwalt: supposed to be the new standard destroyer-techically advanced, stealthy, exotic weaponry-cancelled because it was too expensive; (2) the Littoral Combat Ship: 3 built, all decommissioned..hulls failed, propulsion system failed, softwar control system failed; $4.5 billion thrown away. If the navy doesn't know what they want, how can the shipyards?
She is too far back to say anything regarding ship yards. their first destroyer of mere 4,500 ton took them some 10 years; whereas 3 years ago, China could build 3 destroyers of larger capacity within one year
You sir are a idiot, if you think that India is jealous, I would say that you are jealous as the Indian people have rights that you do not have. India is rapidly replacing China as the world's manufacturing hub because of cheap labor. India is a democracy that Western partners appreciate. China has too many ticking time bombs, they have defaulted on loans, The CCP got caught selling fake gold on the world market, and they got caught double printing their own currency. Who builds ghost cities. what fool is willing to purchase housing in China knowing that the CCP can take it at any time. The CCP is facing civil war because of rampant systemic corruption.
@@yunfenglu6619 let me dumb it down for you. China's entire economy is based on Cheap labor. Nothing else, I am not saying that the people are dumb I am saying that China has a very long history of stealing technology. China does not make anything that they invented and sold to the world. China cut their own throat by biting the hand that was feeding them. So the free world has decided to partner with India, so it will be India's economy growing. Name a single resource that China has that the world needs? All China does is flood the worlds markets with cheap knockoffs of everyone else's products. All of which are approved by the CCP. India will crack down on such enterprises. How many ghost cities does China have, why would any company purchase real estate in China? China is in the red to the tune of over 100 trillion dollars and starting a war won't pay the bills or stop the bleeding.
And in the U.K. 🇬🇧 we’ve gone from being one of the largest shipbuilding nation in the 1950’s to virtually nothing today because of British government incompetence and lack of foresight! 😡
True Not forgetting China had no real war experience They not even doing much when Japanese invaded them in WW2 and expect can defeated the nation that crushed Japanese Navy It's like young cocky teenagers try challenging World heavy boxing champion in fist fight without any fighting experience before They will ended up like cocky Russian Baltic fleet that involved on Battle of Tsushima strait 😂
Never under estimate the capabilities of China. As I write, new and advance techniques, beyond the wildest imagination of the west, are incooperated in building the most lethal and state-of-art vessels for commerce and military. ❤❤❤
Simply not the time yet. Large ships are built usually in hundreds a year globally, works done are usually not repeated but customized, so human workers are preferred. On the other hand, for unmanned production like motor vehicles, the number is going to be around a hundred million.
human power is obviously important at the time now however biggest ship building will actually invest the most on robots and AI design, its not the time when we can say robots can take up most of works in ship build ship building industry, architect industry, and software engineering industry are all definitely human pack industry now. these works requires the most of massive production ability, management science, human resource, and flexibility, its too early to say these 3 industry can be replaced by machine these 3 industry together with military management, are the most complex work in the world, you can see in terms of nation, United States, Russia, and China, are good at these kind of work, that what make we now, and the European countries who lose any of the ability, that means in society and basic education, they are losing every ability above, which will actually turns out lack of power to change the world
United States, Navy warship tonnage is 4,000,000 tons. About double that lof he Chinese Navy .Despite having the second largest navy in the world by tonnage, China is also the least experienced, their most recent activity being harassing Filipino fishing boats. A good place to gain experience would be the Red Sea just south of the Suez Canal, where are the Hootie rebels and Somali pirates are harassing trade between China and Europe. The Chinese navy would gain valuable experience, escorting ships in that vulnerable region. They could also make use of their put in Djibouti for support and refueling. It would also gave them prestige and respect from potential rivals. Unfortunately, the PLA, Navy is risk-averse, And probably doesn’t want to risk losing face.Yet another opportunity wasted.
China uses cheaper steel smaller ships. There aircraft carriers are not up to a challenge with out cracks forming so yes they build more cheaper ships.
No, it is not what’s going with US ship building. US shipyards have no issue keeping busy. The jones act ensures that (though it’s far from perfect). The US is not well suited to compete in an industry as labor cost heavy as commercial shipbuilding. It’s an issue that is already beginning to affect China, as demonstrated by the strong correlation between education levels & youth unemployment.
The Jones Act is part of the problem. Only American ships can be used in American port-to-port connections -> Much less incentive to innovate American domestic shipping due to lack of foreign competition -> American ports fall behind the requirements of global commercial shipping -> American ports lose international traffic to competition -> Far fewer shipping companies are willing to ship to American ports -> Far fewer companies are willing to purchase more ships from American shipbuilders for international shipping -> American shipbuilding declines
If the US decides to fight China over Taiwan, how many US allies do you think would join the fight? Could you do a video on this topic? If allies are likely to join then it's more relevant to compare China's military capability with not just the US, but also with those allies added in.
if it happens in 2035 or later? none. Not to mention none of those navies including the USA would commit 100% of their forces. It's a nuclear power - they are not going to do something so stupid as to get into a shooting war with china.
It's always frustrating to talk with Americans on the issue of ship building. When told about the volume of China ship building they say "hurr durr government subsidies, cheap labour and material, its not sustainable !!" . But the fact remains that China is able to get the ships that it want, when it want and at the price that it wants. Whereas US shipyards struggle to put out 2 Aleigh Burkes and 2 Virginia subs per year. In contrast, China is putting out the entire tonnage of the French Navy annually since the 2000s and this is not likely to stop soon. It's almost like they are making an excuse for their own inabilities and incompetency, well excuses and whining isn't going to win fights when the shooting starts. Just saying. They keep saying that the US navy must have more ships like that gonna somehow fall outta the sky for them.
Most comments are questioning the common way civilizations grow. Some country is always on top and then another country grows up from and off of the knowledge and experience of the countries before. Do you know and understand the saying Standing on the shoulders of giants ? It's just how the world works. Trash talking just shows a short sighted view. Trash talking others at the same time using the knowledge and experience of the people before - does that make trash talkers fill big and powerful ?
national ship yards alone with vate ship buildings actually make it 60 million tons at 2014, now its 20 million tons thanks to the bad global economy China actually build more than half of new civilian ships over past ten years and the Korean build the other half, the rest of the world build less than 10%, and japan build 7% out of them well let me say, if eastern asia decide to join together and start global coquest, the rest of the world will actually lose global marine time profit eastern asia actually build 93% of new ships now, including military and civilian ships, if we want, maybe we can actually build hundreds of aircraft carrier per year, and thousands of destroyers alone with every service ship imagine a fleet of Asia, made up of one thousand carriers, ten thousand of ddg and 100 thousand of fighters
Knowing China if they decide to retire the Liao Ning and Shandong, they will probably turn them over to the China Cost Guards 🤣🤣🤣。 Imagine Chinese coast guards with Aircraft carriers? Japanese will 💩their pants….
@@RectalRooter It was not until 1956 that the Philippines announced the discovery of the South China Sea islands and automatically incorporated them into its territory! If one day, the Philippines announced the discovery of Beijing, we must also recognize it? If we do not recognize it, we are bullies? Who is the bully?
@RectalRoote Is this a joke? Take Zhongye Island, for example, it is the second largest island in the South China Sea! In 1956, Thomas, the principal of the Manila Navigation School, explored the South China Sea and claimed to have discovered 9 islands including Zhongye Island and named them the Kalayaan Islands! Who is kidding? In 1956, the Philippines discovered the second largest island in the South China Sea? ?
American comments are questioning quality china ship but they totally forgor about their both LCS class are the most dogshit class of ships that can't operates after 5 years 😂.
They may never have heard of it because Chinese propaganda tells people in what areas China is strong and where it is weak. Every Chinese knows at least three industries in which China lags behind the United States, such as advanced semiconductors, so the whole of China will have a strong incentive to catch up with the United States. And American political propaganda is entertainment, not conducive to the party atmosphere of things, the United States government will not tell Americans. Until it can't be covered up, so Americans have no idea what's going on in the world shipbuilding industry or the electric car industry, and their first reaction is: Did the Chinese steal our technology again? In fact the potential for the United States to steal Chinese technology is also very high in many industrial sectors.
They do operate, but the cost of fixing the problems just to keep them running is not worth the money. So they retired most of them now, I think the rest are also when their new frigates comes.
Most comments are questioning the common way civilizations grow. Some country is always on top and then another country grows up from and off of the knowledge and experience of the countries before. Do you know and understand the saying Standing on the shoulders of giants ? It's just how the world works. Trash talking just shows a short sighted view. Trash talking others at the same time using the knowledge and experience of the people before - does that make trash talkers fill big and powerful ?
Cool video..a bit more insight... The state of US naval yards is due to market forces. As the US became wealthier its Labor cost have risen. Risen to a point that its ships were no longer as affordable compared to other markets. So, the US made a decision to only subsidize the naval industry by providing contracts for war fleet assets. The effects: highly specialized and focused on-shore fleet building and an off shore commercial ship building apparatus. In many cases offshore yards were started or expanded as transfers of technology and partnerships leveraging local labor and expertise with US ingenuity and technology (which was some of the best at the time these companies moved). That has since manifested into strong commercial and diplomatic relationships (as ship building in many countries including China, is seen as important state industries and thus linked to their governments). "Commercial Diplomacy." US definitely has it's issues with procurement or qty buys. To dive deeper industry shrinkage stems from the fact the naval branch lost the funding battle with the airforce based on what was new doctrine and thus the Navy developed more of Niche in its own doctrine. I.e. sub (aquatic strikes) and carrier strike group (delivering assets to help with greater military doctrine of air dominance being the most important part of combined arms warfare). The US has been way less focused on tying itself to surface combatants then maybe it should have been...in hindsight. That need has recently grown again as the navy has begin to refocus on FON operations (csg are not the most efficient ways to do these), anti ballistics, and of course having the numbers to effectively blockade and deny area with a near peer.
You mean "hypersonic". Besides ballistic missiles no nation has really proven mastery of hypersonics..i.e. creating a missile that can communicate through its super heated plasma. I have no doubt China is pushing... But they haven't really even demonstrated proficiency in cruise missiles...
@@nickl5658 What a mess those are for a number of reasons...but that's pretty much summed up by what happens when you build a platform and don't mature all of its components or manufacturer them at scale or clearly define it's mission set or find out your enemy is no where close in capability. It's a problem the US has but it's not alone. The US is just far more transparent about its acquisitions and expenditures. Best I can tell China's current example of this is its new carrier.... From this viewpoint: Neither the technologies or doctrine are fully matured yet. Blue water ship for a navy that doesn't really sail blue waters. (Carriers are for force projection and aren't the best choice for strictly mainland defense).But this is what you have to do to push your industry.. Got to spend the money. China will find out just how expensive it really is to do this .. The list for US is long... But the most public are Zumwalt, Sea Wolf, Raptor, and even the Sea Shadow .. But each is a learning lesson and/or demonstrator in it's own right.
@@erwin5760 oh and hypersonic glide weapons you are likely referring to (as those seem to be the type China is touting above and beyond their ballistic weapons) are more of a strategic long range weapon to attack assets with a fixed location.. Hitting a moving ship at closer ranges... China already has plenty of weapons that can do that in theory (typical ballistic missiles )... And the US has plenty to hit back with. (Ballistics and cruise missiles)... In the opening shots of a war..US would likely have heavy use of its submarines and their launched land attack weapons, torpedos, and mines plus land based ballistics. BTW blockades are usually to prevent supplies and resources... Warship on warship is simply just a battle or an attempt to break/open a blockade... This is why China is so worried. We aren't talking warship fighting warship in a close to China's shore battle. No nation is going to send its unarmed /non escorted freighters into the teeth of The US Navy. China would have to literally push the US Navy outside the first chain and out of any sea routes for resupply to break a blockade... Something It's navy is ill equipped to do currently.. Especially without the support of land based assets.
it's said that china has 200 times the ship manufacturing capacity compared to America... which is insane and my country America as a gen z socialist is slowly losing and is getting more dan'gero'us and desperate to still be the top world power.
"Is it worth building the Shandong?"
Every kind of work gives you experience, provided you do it properly and be perceptive.
Exactly.
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
well said!
yeah that was my thought too. it was the first time China had built such a complicated warship.
in 1985, Dalian shipbuilder built a 115000 tonnage oil tank for Norway , it is not just 60000 tons bulk carrier
The Shanghai Shipyard is absolutely immense, trillions in materials staged there.
It is meaningless unless you have quality build.
@@georgewilson4245 The market share that Chinese shipbuilders captured disagree with you.
Cope some more.
@@georgewilson4245So all nations and company’s that invest in Chinese ships don’t know that, only you?
@@georgewilson4245and what makes you think they have build quality military expert?
@@georgewilson4245and how do you know the quality of these ships? Are you a ship expert or another youtube warrior coping? Have u even set foot in china before? Lol
An excellent tour (and very interesting historical background). Thank you for such an excellent, and informative, channel!
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
The last graphic shown in the video, comparing the shipbuilding capacity of China vs USA is apalling!! Says it all.
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
Americans often say that they have quality but they seem to have forgotten that they won World War 2 thanks to their superior number of ships compared to Japan. And love to all my Sinosphere brothers ❤️👍 G'day
如果越南人都像你这样就好了，我遇到的很多越南人对中国并不友好😢
@@yjnbvjciia I feel sorry for those who are blinded by hatred, we continue to hate each other while the common enemy is slowly swallowing us both.
The quality thing is a cope too, especially when it comes to surface combatants.
Im not sure the US has quality anymore. Look at Ukraine, HIMARS, HARM, military drones are all failing due to jamming and other measures. These are extremely expensive munitions that have mostly lost their bang for buck on the battlefield to the point where the Ukrainians dont even want some of these weapons anymore. US weapons might look pretty but for the most part they are not built for real war. Just the other day a photo of a US nuclear sub going to sea covered in rust, F-22's coatings have this bad rust all over them. Quality? I dont think so - they may look pretty but that doesnt equal quality.
The main players of WW1 and 2 were Russia and Germany..
US, Japan, UK etc were just side players..
At the last Congressional briefing by the Pentagon, it was said that China had 14 naval shipyards to America's 4. These yards stay busy because they build both PLAN and civilian ships. China is the world's leader in ship building.
Desert storm made the world recognize us supremacy but something is going to make the world recognize Chinese power 💪🇨🇳
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
it's even worse if you just take Dalian shipyards, it is larger than all of USN's shipyards combined.
How old are you? 10? Who cares how many shipyards they have you idiot. This is why people like you won't ever be a general because you think like a private. China does not have the natural resources in abundance to wage war, They have to import everything, including the raw materials that make steel, China does not have a stable electrical grid, no fuel or gas they have to import everything, China's naval fleet runs on gas, They have a few type 93 subs that have reactors but 98 percent of the fleet requires fuel, those subs will be among the first to be targeted. Grow the fugg up man if America needs to build more ship yard they can do it overnight, just like they can reactivate closed bases. Its
cheaper profit-wise to build stuff overseas for the corporate slave masters that way they double their profits. If we have to go to war we will see a change overnight in the manufacturing of war goods.
This is why the U.S. needs to use its allies to close the gap. Mistakes have been made and it’s too late to go back and fix them in the short term. We should instead task Japanese and South Korean ship yards with building up our fleet. Let Carriers, Cruisers and Destroyers be built in the USA while the Frigates and corvette size vessels are built overseas to our designs. Or at least spread the work out. There is some good new though. The Philadelphia shipyard was just bought by South Korea’s largest ship builder so hopefully they can fully restore it and we can start making warships there again via the SK company.
Chinese workers are hard working, driven to succeed, and take great pride in their work. This is not just a cultural phenomena, Chinese love their country because their country takes care of them and has visibly improved their quality of life. American workers are lazier and resentful because they see the great inequality which exists in their society and don't feel like their efforts are being rewarded. Most Americans are barely surviving and realize that their government doesn't give a damn about them when it can send hundreds of billions to Ukraine and Israel but can't find money for social security or infrastructure maintenance. This is why China keeps getting better at everything compared to America.
true
Absolutely right. 👍
The Chinese government did run tanks over their own people in 1989 ... just saying.
It is true the Chinese love their government but their government does not take care of them At all. This is either a bot or someone who does not truly know what's going on in china. Cause as of right now they are not far off from America. Mass stabbings almost every day, stabbings targeting schools, buildings collapsing due to poor construction and corrupt ass officials and the victims families of building collapses due to poor constructionget turned away from government buildings and told to stop posting on their social media about it. Reason u don't hear about these is they censor the absolute shit out of their media. Ever heard about that time a failed rocket launched wiped out an entire village in china?You can't even film a house fire without being told not to film by some official. Do not get me wrong china has come a long way but they fake alot of shit to
First Class junk builders
Last graphic says it all...
Yup, there is a line in that slide that says China has 50+ dry docks that can accommodate an aircraft carrier size ship.
Jesus...
China's progression over the last 50 years has been astounding! 👏 🇨🇳 .
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
In the Ming Dynasty - China had the most advanced navy
Admiral Zheng He was a great sailor now PLAN wants to revive their Naval fleets since the glorious time of previous Dynasty @Amidat
Admiral Zheng He was a great sailor now PLAN wants to revive their Naval fleets since the glorious time of previous Dynasty @Amidat
That's a national security issue for US
Just consider how much profit the military industrial complex needs to skim off in the first place? Maybe US the high cost each weapon will probably let the Chinese build 2 or more of the same item at higher quality, right?
Zumwalt’s cost was eight times the cost of 055.
@@xuansu9036 thanks for the info
It is closer to infinitely better, because a lot of US military spending doesn't actually yield anything. Take the Zumwalt as an example . In the end it was $24.5 billion for 3 ships. and only 2 are now active. For the same cost, China would have built 27 type 055 destroyers ($888m each). A 10:1 advantage.
@@nickl5658 , Otherwise how to get billion dollars donation for the election!
@@nickl5658 Zumwalt couldn't even afford its ammunition, and it barely have any proper operation because its design re full of flaws, the navy simply couldn't use it, except for testing purpose, but this ship wasn't designed as a test ship at the first place..lol
China has become a superpower and a military power and a leader in many things.
No,we are still a developing country
@@BangLittle-ry4ngthats what USA says but they are so scared of china at the same time 🤣🤣
@@PurpleDoritos666No one in the US is afraid of China. Most of their naval ships are second hand parts from Russia from the Cold War. And when they do build something new, they just copy everything the US has but with minor changes.
@@PurpleDoritos666 They are very contradictory, on the one hand, they say that China is poor and backward. But on the other hand, when it comes to China's advanced weapons, is the intelligence of Americans lower than that of Indians? Will a poor and backward country have the money to research advanced weapons???? Is it because too many Indians are in Silicon Valley? Causing a decline in the intelligence of Americans? Always telling jokes about hitting oneself in the face
@@PurpleDoritos666most of Chinese ships are coastal only
Great video lots of information. Thanks
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
China’s ship building has greatly benefited from economy of scale and intelligent planning by China’s leadership. Their investment in improved shipbuilding processes/technology makes them able to corner the world ship building market based on lower cost. Also top planing keeps the workers steadily employed, and the skilled workers are the key enabler of their success.
Compare this to the US administration jerking auto manufacturers around by policy and overriding politics.when the administration forced GM and Ford to commit billions to EkectrIc Vehicles before they were ready, they fell flat with overpriced poor performing EVs doomed to fail against comoetion from Tesla (and now China). The administration went so far as to call Ford the world leader in EVs and literally ignored the existence of Tesla. The resulting big fails of GM and Ford were disruptive and costly.
Compare that to China’s approach to many industries, where government policy and material support build centers of world leadership
Didn't realize they were such a manufacturing powerhouse. From the LNG ship build.
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
How long have you been ignorant and ignorant? The so-called "G7" - the seven major industrial countries, in fact, their total industrial output value is not as much as China's
China is a sleeping dragon.
Meanwhile, America is co centrating on building advanced latest gender names
Always nice when you end a video with good news!
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
By logical extension China's efforts to strengthen their military aircraft manufacturing would be greatly boosted by a thriving commercial aircraft industry - from design to production, from certification to MRO. This also means inevitable conflict with the American giant, Boeing. In the opposite direction, if the United States loses commercial aircraft manufacturing to other countries, then their military aircraft manufacturing will also suffer as a result.
Los estadounidenses ven todo como un juego de ganar y perder. Que los chinos progresen no significa que los estadounidenses no sigan siendo ricos o más ricos. El problema está que querer que china no progrese eso es un comportamiento destinado a la agresión
Boeing defense is treated like a completely separate entity but besides that Boeing aircraft are not going anywhere.
Thank you for another very informative upload! Learning about the Chinese shipyard evolution and the lessons learned along the way is fascinating!
The capacity of China’s ship building is awe inspiring!
Yo welcome guys. Another video ❤
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
当我们有100艘055的时候，我们做的所有事情都是正确的
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
实际上16艘055就可以称霸蓝星了
别说这俩字，西方人本来就给我们扣帽子。
@@yjnbvjciia实际上的14艘已经下水了
@@user-yt4tj8yc5l 不是才建了10艘吗
*You could have broken this up into two videos:*
1) Partial History of ship building at a few shipyards.
2) Rare Look into Chinese Naval Shipyards ....
That's fair enough. I do think the modern history of Chinese shipbuilding is important to understanding why China now outbuilds the US (and everyone else). There's so many steps that was taken to ensure today's shipbuilding dominance. But yes we could do more segmenting of videos.
@@EurasiaNaval Its a double win: You have another video to post, and, two, most people want videos to be under 10 minutes.
Mighty ships,
Most military equipment made in China is modular. For example, shipbuilding, there are 200 shipyards doing different division of labor. Then these modules are shipped to the headquarters for assembly.
I had naming suggestion for the biggest naval carrier in the future: Zheng He.
中国军队是属于人民的，不会用名人来取名
They hired a lot of foreign consultants as well as foreign vendors for the know how and technique transfer. They are very well paid.
You talk about things you have no knowledge of cause you dont wanna give them the credit they deserve, they build all those ships by themselves they dont need foreign consultant nor vendor, they have all the expertise and know how locally
You still want to feel good by trying to portray that the Chinese people can only achieve this through hiring foreign experts, but you are dead wrong, they are very capable of doing things on their own. Just look at China's space program for instance.
@@RoamingChronicles_1 Can you cite evidence that no outside help was given and paid for, or is it a personal believe you have ?
However, united states is a country of immigrants without historical heritage and national character.😏
Lets see, the manufacturing capital of the world, the most complete production lines, the most robust infrastructure, etc...
except america has been cucking itself to help the rest of the world out, so piss off wanker.
Just like making dumplings 🥟
They have 3-4 shifts per day until it’s done. I’ve witnessed that personally in China(road construction).
为啥不介绍利敖宁州的达利安造船厂？😅
Man you just gave away so many state secrets without knowing😎🤐👍
Having an effective military is more than just ship spamming
这游戏我1年前玩过了，后来没玩了，我电脑配置不行，他有不同的图，等级不同，可以换图的，进度太快
As soon as the type 004 is built China will truly be a naval superpower!
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
Not so fast kid
Even if they get lot of warship but with zero experience of real combat
It would end up like RUSSIAN BALTIC FLEET 1904-1905
No matter how Advanced weapons you got but if you had zero experience then that weapon nothing but SCRAPS METAL
@@WhyyouSodesperate we didn't ask for American demoralization propaganda so please go away, thx 🙂
@@WhyyouSodesperate So why does the us military, which has experience bullying small countries in the past few decades, often choose to avoid "freedom of navigation" in these waters whenever the PLA conducts military exercises at sea?😂
Stop laughing at russia, us is no better
For recent example, the us military which has the experience of real bullying small countries in the past few decades, was still successfully attacked by the houthis, not to mention the great escape in afghanistan.😏
@WhyyouSodesperate 1904 ship aint shot by software today all guns missile control by software idiot
Quality
拭目以待 the phrase my pops told me. And to think US will ever catch up in any industries.
Thank you for the video.
和我一样的很多中国人基本上都认为，你的想法很难实现，失去了产业链和产业工人，整个美国产业空心化，所有的年轻人都想去做金融或者互联网行业，很难了。看看你们的造船业，产能是中国的1/232，再看看你们的波音，每个月我都会听到关于它的负面消息😂
事实上，当你说出“迎头赶上”这句话就表示你们out了，因为之前你们在各行各业都处于领先地位，现在却需要追赶，这本身就是一种衰弱的表现！
Tufu constructed Navy 🇨🇳
Thanks for compiling this short history of naval yards.
Since Chinese shipbuilding and 'modern' naval operations goes back into the Qing dynasty, the picture is incomplete - e.g. considering the tradition of deploying several fleets, instead of one as in the West (Mahan).
But collecting *structural* evidence that offers *systemic* context to current diplomatic events is more useful for political and military analysis than just a comparison of equipment stats - as it is _a fetish_ in the West.
I agree with U.
Setup❤❤
China and Russia world's greatest superpowers 🇨🇳🇷🇺
This is all false. CCP is the biggest violator of human rights.
Also evil countries run by Dictators.......no thank you.
Hshaha
Uh, Russia isn’t a superpower.
Commy
"They start with substandard materials, and then save budget by not maintaining their machines"
Because it's easier to build with tofu than steel.
是的， 就像你的母亲一样，生了个废物孩子，因为她觉得生个废物儿子比生个聪明有能力的儿子更容易，这也是导致你在网络上打嘴炮的最终原因。这个世界上有一半的造船订单新船出海量在中国，你认为那些下订单的商船公司能比你还蠢？
Metro turf racing live, 1:27
How much Aussie iron-ore goes into each one of these ships…?
Probably none. China's the number one producer of steel.
這是我們中國人的智慧
Raciest. Are you
most of Chinese people knows the Lee'Aorning and the Dallean Shipyards are base in United States
兄弟大才😅
Yes, they actually have naval shipyards. The US used to have over a dozen. Now 2
The U.S. has about 7 shipyards producing ships for the USN.
This is one of the better videos about China's shipbuilding capacity and you are correct. Western shipyards are far too dependent on government contracts and is one of the reasons our warships cost double or even triple that of China's. At this rate, we simply can't keep up.
It's because it is much cheaper to build ships in China, Korea, and Japan. So there's no reason to have many shipyards but just to build Navy ships.
overcapacity - Janet Yellen 2024
United States barely has any commercial ship building orders is why they are falling behind…..their shipyard live on congress’s budget means shipyards don’t make any profit……while Chinese shipyards can create profit by making commercial ships.
My parents’ company used to work with Jiangnan shipyard, tbh the current ship building speed is far from reaching the limit, the shipyard’s major focus is still on building commercial ships…..since building warships doesn’t make a lot of money.
You sir think like a most fools, Money drives the world. Profits is the name of the game. China has to import everything needed to build anything. Corporations build there because of cheap labor. Because of China's cheap labor it leads the world in steel production. It's cheaper for a company to ship the resources to China for manufacturing. China leads the world in steep production, but China has to import the iron ore from Australia to make the steel. How long will China be able to make steel during war? China imports 174 billion dollar worth of ore to feed their steel building industry. Just like everywhere else in China people will simply leave China because of all the drama produced by the CCP. Without Australian ore China will not be able to produce steel or build ships. So to say that China has 200 shipyards don't mean a damn thing because China does not have its own source of ore. The same thing applies to oil, to fuel your war machine, ships, tank, planes, trucks. If war broke out today do you think those 200 ship yards would be able to build a damn thing? This was the one thing Japan knew before attacking America was waking the sleeping Giant they gambled and lost. America alone has all the resources to manufacture war waging materials. Today It would take a bit of time but if we had the need to ramp up production it would happen quickly without importation of any raw materials from outside sources. With the symbiotic relationship with our partners relative to treaties nothing can stop the American war machine.
Precision outweighs numbers its a modern warfare.
The other reason is the total incompetence in the US Navy Bureau of ships-examples: the USS Zumwalt: supposed to be the new standard destroyer-techically advanced, stealthy, exotic weaponry-cancelled because it was too expensive; (2) the Littoral Combat Ship: 3 built, all decommissioned..hulls failed, propulsion system failed, softwar control system failed; $4.5 billion thrown away. If the navy doesn't know what they want, how can the shipyards?
PLAN emphasizes quantity over quality. Just like the old Soviet Navy.
Main weakness is military personnel.
India is very very jealous and angry now.🤐🤐
She is too far back to say anything regarding ship yards. their first destroyer of mere 4,500 ton took them some 10 years; whereas 3 years ago, China could build 3 destroyers of larger capacity within one year
You sir are a idiot, if you think that India is jealous, I would say that you are jealous as the Indian people have rights that you do not have. India is rapidly replacing China as the world's manufacturing hub because of cheap labor. India is a democracy that Western partners appreciate. China has too many ticking time bombs, they have defaulted on loans, The CCP got caught selling fake gold on the world market, and they got caught double printing their own currency. Who builds ghost cities. what fool is willing to purchase housing in China knowing that the CCP can take it at any time. The CCP is facing civil war because of rampant systemic corruption.
Wrong, India is wondering when chinese can catch up with them. 30yrs is their estimate
@@user-ed9so2rb4k But India is already on par with South Korea on Yutube, with both countries tied for the top spot in the universe
@@yunfenglu6619 let me dumb it down for you. China's entire economy is based on Cheap labor. Nothing else, I am not saying that the people are dumb I am saying that China has a very long history of stealing technology. China does not make anything that they invented and sold to the world. China cut their own throat by biting the hand that was feeding them. So the free world has decided to partner with India, so it will be India's economy growing. Name a single resource that China has that the world needs? All China does is flood the worlds markets with cheap knockoffs of everyone else's products. All of which are approved by the CCP. India will crack down on such enterprises. How many ghost cities does China have, why would any company purchase real estate in China? China is in the red to the tune of over 100 trillion dollars and starting a war won't pay the bills or stop the bleeding.
I couldn't help but laugh for a while. The restroom is there, and I need it. I laughed so happily that tears welled up. I need to repair my makeup.🤣
饿了吗？打着补妆的名义去厕所吃屎，这是你的惯用伎俩吗？
amazing coparative, China is the leader in the industry of every kind in the world
Can you cite evidence for that remark, or is just a personal belief ?
America once upon a time used to be...😢
Eating the third slice of pizza makes you full. Is it still worth it to eat the first two slices?
And in the U.K. 🇬🇧 we’ve gone from being one of the largest shipbuilding nation in the 1950’s to virtually nothing today because of British government incompetence and lack of foresight! 😡
055太少了，再来12艘
中國海軍應該在計畫最新一級的巨型驅逐艦（用於替代055），排水量可能超過1萬八千噸，新式垂發（十四米深），可能能發射反衛星、中遠程反導、洲際彈道導彈、射程超2000公里的防空導彈系統。
Building quickly isn't always best. Besides China has no regulations to hamper them.
这个世界上有几个国家可以保护自己不被别人欺负？我感觉很幸运因为我的国家正成为一个确保自己不被欺负的国家！
@@jayscott7152 你还是写中文吧，看你这英文语法都不对！
Us needs to build some nuclear powered battleships that can launch giant shells at the land instead of rockets that are too expensive.
King off Asia 🫶🇮🇩🇨🇳
Kudos to US dollar rate hike...
Quality vs. Quantity. just like buying 100 shoes that last only for day's than buying a shoes that last for 2 to 3 years.. experience experience
True
Not forgetting China had no real war experience
They not even doing much when Japanese invaded them in WW2 and expect can defeated the nation that crushed Japanese Navy
It's like young cocky teenagers try challenging World heavy boxing champion in fist fight without any fighting experience before
They will ended up like cocky Russian Baltic fleet that involved on Battle of Tsushima strait 😂
Viva China
Free Julian Assange
❤viva
👍👍👍
利奥宁州达里安造船厂🤣
So many bots and fake accounts in the comments. 😂
Never under estimate the capabilities of China. As I write, new and advance techniques, beyond the wildest imagination of the west, are incooperated in building the most lethal and state-of-art vessels for commerce and military. ❤❤❤
I don't know about that. china is grade 1 in making an aircraft carrier.
Why not introduce robotic workers and other forms of AI controlled automations into this ship building industry?
Simply not the time yet. Large ships are built usually in hundreds a year globally, works done are usually not repeated but customized, so human workers are preferred. On the other hand, for unmanned production like motor vehicles, the number is going to be around a hundred million.
human power is obviously important at the time now
however biggest ship building will actually invest the most on robots and AI design, its not the time when we can say robots can take up most of works in ship build
ship building industry, architect industry, and software engineering industry are all definitely human pack industry now. these works requires the most of massive production ability, management science, human resource, and flexibility, its too early to say these 3 industry can be replaced by machine
these 3 industry together with military management, are the most complex work in the world, you can see in terms of nation, United States, Russia, and China, are good at these kind of work, that what make we now, and the European countries who lose any of the ability, that means in society and basic education, they are losing every ability above, which will actually turns out lack of power to change the world
Super Sci-fi
United States, Navy warship tonnage is 4,000,000 tons. About double that lof he Chinese Navy .Despite having the second largest navy in the world by tonnage, China is also the least experienced, their most recent activity being harassing Filipino fishing boats. A good place to gain experience would be the Red Sea just south of the Suez Canal, where are the Hootie rebels and Somali pirates are harassing trade between China and Europe. The Chinese navy would gain valuable experience, escorting ships in that vulnerable region. They could also make use of their put in Djibouti for support and refueling. It would also gave them prestige and respect from potential rivals. Unfortunately, the PLA, Navy is risk-averse, And probably doesn’t want to risk losing face.Yet another opportunity wasted.
你是说那些几十年前的产物吗？或者欺负第三世界国的经验？还是朝鲜战争？ 他们现在在南海的第一岛链撤军你知道了嘛？他们在非洲撤军你又知道了嘛？ 他们在欧洲的十六个军事基地被袭击了你知道了嘛？F22被击落了你知道了嘛？ 菲律宾共同防卫协议变成一张废纸了你知道了吗？沙特保卫协议没有续签你知道了吗？沙特跟中国签了你知道了吗？中国驻军中东4国你知道了吗？ 南海30国军演电子战被中国碾压菲律宾北部全都断电断网你知道了吗？你知道的太少了，继续活在你的西方媒体世界里吧。
China chose to invest in its shipbuilding industry whereas America decided to divest in its shipbuilding industry.
The ultimate I word. Invest.
It’s Chinese they all break lol . Their ship s sexiness is just for loook .
China uses cheaper steel smaller ships. There aircraft carriers are not up to a challenge with out cracks forming so yes they build more cheaper ships.
A large navy in 2 decades wanting to compete against navies with hundreds of years in experience is gonna be funny.
Out build? Maybe. Out class? Never. Tofu dreg construction is tofu dreg construction.
No, it is not what’s going with US ship building. US shipyards have no issue keeping busy. The jones act ensures that (though it’s far from perfect). The US is not well suited to compete in an industry as labor cost heavy as commercial shipbuilding. It’s an issue that is already beginning to affect China, as demonstrated by the strong correlation between education levels & youth unemployment.
The Jones Act is part of the problem.
Only American ships can be used in American port-to-port connections -> Much less incentive to innovate American domestic shipping due to lack of foreign competition -> American ports fall behind the requirements of global commercial shipping -> American ports lose international traffic to competition -> Far fewer shipping companies are willing to ship to American ports -> Far fewer companies are willing to purchase more ships from American shipbuilders for international shipping -> American shipbuilding declines
If the US decides to fight China over Taiwan, how many US allies do you think would join the fight? Could you do a video on this topic? If allies are likely to join then it's more relevant to compare China's military capability with not just the US, but also with those allies added in.
首先美国不会因为台湾和中国开战的，其次，如果美国真的因为台湾和中国开战，北约可能会背叛美国，日本和韩国将和追随美国和中国开战
if it happens in 2035 or later? none. Not to mention none of those navies including the USA would commit 100% of their forces.
It's a nuclear power - they are not going to do something so stupid as to get into a shooting war with china.
NATO fought the poorest army on flip-flops in Afghanistan.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@taiwanstillisntacountryyeah Russia did too and they lost. America aided Afghanistan 😂
paper ships
水面舰艇太多了，还不如多造点核潜艇，或者找老毛子买几个北风之神。
It's always frustrating to talk with Americans on the issue of ship building.
When told about the volume of China ship building they say "hurr durr government subsidies, cheap labour and material, its not sustainable !!" .
But the fact remains that China is able to get the ships that it want, when it want and at the price that it wants. Whereas US shipyards struggle to put out 2 Aleigh Burkes and 2 Virginia subs per year. In contrast, China is putting out the entire tonnage of the French Navy annually since the 2000s and this is not likely to stop soon.
It's almost like they are making an excuse for their own inabilities and incompetency, well excuses and whining isn't going to win fights when the shooting starts. Just saying.
They keep saying that the US navy must have more ships like that gonna somehow fall outta the sky for them.
Most comments are questioning the common way civilizations grow. Some country is always on top and then another country grows up from and off of the knowledge and experience of the countries before. Do you know and understand the saying Standing on the shoulders of giants ?
It's just how the world works. Trash talking just shows a short sighted view. Trash talking others at the same time using the knowledge and experience of the people before - does that make trash talkers fill big and powerful ?
ВМС НОАК 🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪
This is basically what the US looked like in the 1930s
national ship yards alone with vate ship buildings actually make it 60 million tons at 2014, now its 20 million tons thanks to the bad global economy
China actually build more than half of new civilian ships over past ten years
and the Korean build the other half, the rest of the world build less than 10%, and japan build 7% out of them
well let me say, if eastern asia decide to join together and start global coquest, the rest of the world will actually lose global marine time profit
eastern asia actually build 93% of new ships now, including military and civilian ships, if we want, maybe we can actually build hundreds of aircraft carrier per year, and thousands of destroyers alone with every service ship
imagine a fleet of Asia, made up of one thousand carriers, ten thousand of ddg and 100 thousand of fighters
Knowing China if they decide to retire the Liao Ning and Shandong, they will probably turn them over to the China Cost Guards 🤣🤣🤣。 Imagine Chinese coast guards with Aircraft carriers? Japanese will 💩their pants….
Seems very overkill to attack Philippine fishing boats and unarmed civilian supply ships
@CK088, are you a bully ?
@@RectalRooter
It was not until 1956 that the Philippines announced the discovery of the South China Sea islands and automatically incorporated them into its territory!
If one day, the Philippines announced the discovery of Beijing, we must also recognize it?
If we do not recognize it, we are bullies?
Who is the bully?
@@user-bx2nw8lh3i I don't know if you are joking or being serious.
@RectalRoote
Is this a joke?
Take Zhongye Island, for example, it is the second largest island in the South China Sea!
In 1956, Thomas, the principal of the Manila Navigation School, explored the South China Sea and claimed to have discovered 9 islands including Zhongye Island and named them the Kalayaan Islands!
Who is kidding?
In 1956, the Philippines discovered the second largest island in the South China Sea? ?
@@user-bx2nw8lh3i Are you familiar with the term -- trying too rewrite history ?
Hi
American comments are questioning quality china ship but they totally forgor about their both LCS class are the most dogshit class of ships that can't operates after 5 years 😂.
They may never have heard of it because Chinese propaganda tells people in what areas China is strong and where it is weak. Every Chinese knows at least three industries in which China lags behind the United States, such as advanced semiconductors, so the whole of China will have a strong incentive to catch up with the United States. And American political propaganda is entertainment, not conducive to the party atmosphere of things, the United States government will not tell Americans. Until it can't be covered up, so Americans have no idea what's going on in the world shipbuilding industry or the electric car industry, and their first reaction is: Did the Chinese steal our technology again? In fact the potential for the United States to steal Chinese technology is also very high in many industrial sectors.
They do operate, but the cost of fixing the problems just to keep them running is not worth the money. So they retired most of them now, I think the rest are also when their new frigates comes.
Most comments are questioning the common way civilizations grow. Some country is always on top and then another country grows up from and off of the knowledge and experience of the countries before. Do you know and understand the saying Standing on the shoulders of giants ?
It's just how the world works. Trash talking just shows a short sighted view. Trash talking others at the same time using the knowledge and experience of the people before - does that make trash talkers fill big and powerful ?
The sleeping dragon is awakened
Cool video..a bit more insight... The state of US naval yards is due to market forces. As the US became wealthier its Labor cost have risen. Risen to a point that its ships were no longer as affordable compared to other markets. So, the US made a decision to only subsidize the naval industry by providing contracts for war fleet assets. The effects: highly specialized and focused on-shore fleet building and an off shore commercial ship building apparatus. In many cases offshore yards were started or expanded as transfers of technology and partnerships leveraging local labor and expertise with US ingenuity and technology (which was some of the best at the time these companies moved). That has since manifested into strong commercial and diplomatic relationships (as ship building in many countries including China, is seen as important state industries and thus linked to their governments). "Commercial Diplomacy." US definitely has it's issues with procurement or qty buys. To dive deeper industry shrinkage stems from the fact the naval branch lost the funding battle with the airforce based on what was new doctrine and thus the Navy developed more of Niche in its own doctrine. I.e. sub (aquatic strikes) and carrier strike group (delivering assets to help with greater military doctrine of air dominance being the most important part of combined arms warfare). The US has been way less focused on tying itself to surface combatants then maybe it should have been...in hindsight. That need has recently grown again as the navy has begin to refocus on FON operations (csg are not the most efficient ways to do these), anti ballistics, and of course having the numbers to effectively blockade and deny area with a near peer.
Good luck blocking and denying the pla navy bud. you need to master hypersonic missile tech first.
Still does not explain the debacle that was the Zumwalt.
You mean "hypersonic". Besides ballistic missiles no nation has really proven mastery of hypersonics..i.e. creating a missile that can communicate through its super heated plasma. I have no doubt China is pushing... But they haven't really even demonstrated proficiency in cruise missiles...
@@nickl5658 What a mess those are for a number of reasons...but that's pretty much summed up by what happens when you build a platform and don't mature all of its components or manufacturer them at scale or clearly define it's mission set or find out your enemy is no where close in capability. It's a problem the US has but it's not alone. The US is just far more transparent about its acquisitions and expenditures. Best I can tell China's current example of this is its new carrier.... From this viewpoint: Neither the technologies or doctrine are fully matured yet. Blue water ship for a navy that doesn't really sail blue waters. (Carriers are for force projection and aren't the best choice for strictly mainland defense).But this is what you have to do to push your industry.. Got to spend the money. China will find out just how expensive it really is to do this .. The list for US is long... But the most public are Zumwalt, Sea Wolf, Raptor, and even the Sea Shadow .. But each is a learning lesson and/or demonstrator in it's own right.
@@erwin5760 oh and hypersonic glide weapons you are likely referring to (as those seem to be the type China is touting above and beyond their ballistic weapons) are more of a strategic long range weapon to attack assets with a fixed location.. Hitting a moving ship at closer ranges... China already has plenty of weapons that can do that in theory (typical ballistic missiles )... And the US has plenty to hit back with. (Ballistics and cruise missiles)... In the opening shots of a war..US would likely have heavy use of its submarines and their launched land attack weapons, torpedos, and mines plus land based ballistics. BTW blockades are usually to prevent supplies and resources... Warship on warship is simply just a battle or an attempt to break/open a blockade... This is why China is so worried. We aren't talking warship fighting warship in a close to China's shore battle. No nation is going to send its unarmed /non escorted freighters into the teeth of The US Navy. China would have to literally push the US Navy outside the first chain and out of any sea routes for resupply to break a blockade... Something It's navy is ill equipped to do currently.. Especially without the support of land based assets.
None of these ships are teuely blue water navy
What is a blue-water ship? You don't know.
@@definitelyfrank9341 i do, it ks s ship capable of sailing more than 5000 nautical miles without refuling, china can not do that, so 🤷
@@ulrichkristensen4087 Nope, it is a vessel capable of operating in the open ocean, far from the coast, not just a ship with long range.
@@definitelyfrank9341 and supports itself, which they cant
@@ulrichkristensen4087 The heck do you mean 'supports itself'?
庄晓莹！❤
Quantity over Quality. That is something Capitalism defeated Nazis
it's said that china has 200 times the ship manufacturing capacity compared to America... which is insane and my country America as a gen z socialist is slowly losing and is getting more dan'gero'us and desperate to still be the top world power.
Lmao out building doesn’t mean shit when the ships are completely trash and run by corrupt captains