Bruh idk how the algorithm hasn't picked up your videos more they're great quality for what they are and you seem willing to improve on them as they go on just found the channel and I'm impressed.
nah smoker didn’t know about haki during pre time skip era because during marineford boa hancock kicked him and he was confused and asked her how she kicked him
17:00 CP9 not knowing Haki is interesting. Perhaps formal Haki training in the Marines is all about having ins with "the special people" or just learning it on your own. CP9 also seems to only operate in paradise and the four seas so that may consider it unnecessary to learn it and mayhaps a way to control them by keeping them ignorant or even a step up due to the similar out comes of Rokushiki make them think Rokushiki and Haki is one in the same.
17:59 obviously the meta answer is "oda didn't think of it yet" of course but hear me out, what if he DID have conquerors in the past when he had the ambitions of a king to fight Kaido and become the pirate king but then he naturally lost it over time when he decided to stop his own development due to his trauma of losing his crew? I mean it could be a stretch but it would make sense why it isn't seen in the pre-time skip era besides the meta answer.
Sometimes u can see the crew use haki tho in the series like zoro dodging the sword thrown at him or ussop shooting the crown against the one sharpshooter guy in the beginnings.I think it’s just cause they haven’t seen it be obvious until fishman island.I think he definitely was hinting tho I think with our crew.cause it’s not visible unless u have haki yourself.I may be looking into the scenes too much but maybe we couldn’t see cp9 use it cause he hadn’t seen or used it himself.also I think nami has weather haki or it goes with observation😂 cause even vivi says nami detects stuff most navigators can’t.
"One muscle can be trained in many different ways. It's just what you prefer over the competition that counts." -Me and maybe some famous martial artist somewhere. In regards to Crocodile's Haki Use, I think it's safe to say that he did use Haki ONCE against Luffy in their final battle. If you recall, it was the second last attack that Crocodile threw that emitted strange energy before it was launched and after it landed. I take that as Armament Haki, I don't know about anyone else, that's just what I saw. Okay, Rokushiki techniques. There is an argument that could be made saying that those techniques are very specifically trained versions of Haki that protect against and work against INTERNAL Damage, I.E. Conqueror's Coating. However, that argument I think in my eyes is very loose and weak. There is a moment during Luffy and Kaido's fight right before Kaido's attack that shows a CP0 Agent locking his own body with Iron Body but how that transfers over to Luffy is confusing. It could be said that the CP0 Agent Imbued Luffy's internal musculature with Haki to Immobolize him, but, again, that's a stretch on my end to say the least. P.S. : I am of the belief that you have to have Observation Haki to see Armament Haki but not actually NEED Observation to use Armament. It just makes sense. P.S #2 : I just realized that this is a 2 year old video and it may not reach you but all the same hope this maybe helps.
I think the answer to this is pretty simple, Oda hadn’t thought it up yet haha. There’s no point to over analyze this, the reason you don’t see these characters use Haki pre time skip that most certainly should have been able to use it is that Oda hadn’t really created it yet. If you think he had then it’s a big plot hole for sure. You would think a warlord like Crocodile would most certainly be able to use Haki, and to try and justify why he wouldn’t use it is pointless. He didn’t use it cause the author hadn’t really worked it out yet, that’s it
@@May9ine later in the pre timeskip it’s used but earlier on it’s not. Later on they pretty explicitly say that the only way to hit a Logia devil fruit user is to use Haki. Luffy is somehow able to defeat Crocodile without Haki despite the fact he wasn’t using Haki. He shouldn’t have been able to beat him then. I know the whole water thing was how but that’s doesn’t hold up to the later knowledge that Haki is the only way you can strike a logia devil fruit user
@@joebeast15 I mean ofc there going to say only haki beats devil fruits there not going to single out every logia and say oh you can use water on suna or get a vacuum on smoker
I know I'm pretty late to this but I just found this channel lol. I heard a really good idea that most of the pre-timeskip villains were washed up and didn't have any ambition, which is what haki is based on. Moria and Crocodile both gave up their dreams on becoming Pirate King after being crushed
In the remake, I want them to show uses of haki pre-timeskip I know they won't but I really want them to. I have a feeling Luffy tapped into it without even realizing he was doing so. Like in his fight against Arlong, where he snaps the saw blade into pieces with one hand.
white beard and shanks meeting (sky splitting conquerers). luffy almost getting his arms cut off by mihawk in marineford (observation, possibly futuresight)
Also Sentomaru used armament haki against luffy in the sabaody arc, luffy also used conquorers haki against duvals bull similiar to shanks did in the beginning
Hold on hold on, there's an arc you skipped over. During the Millennial Dragon Arc, Luffy telepathically talks to a dragon. Which could only be done by a girl with them with the Whisper- Whisper Fruit. That's the earliest case of Haki in the entire show, besides Shank's Conquerors Haki. This case of Haki being Observation.
@@kitchenspice8376 filler is used when the anime gets too close to the mange which is why its called filler anything that isnt in the manga isnt canon (except for details tht are considered canon by the mangaka)
Okay so I remembered cp9 wrong big time lmao I genuinely thought they knew observation haki in fact I was so certain that enies lobby was the first instance haki was named dropped but I must be wrong 😅
Wano spoilers Broggy and dorry 100p use haki if they fought for 100 years without damaging their weapons (maybe even ryuo if you take in the visuals during ep77) and zoro learning to cut metal during alabasta is def related to observation imo
Wano Spoilers In the episode where they use it clearly which is 77 i think, it look’s almost like ryuo imo which would make sense because elbaf is in the new world and after wano
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Bruh idk how the algorithm hasn't picked up your videos more they're great quality for what they are and you seem willing to improve on them as they go on just found the channel and I'm impressed.
I’m so glad to hear you like my content, it means so much to me.
nah smoker didn’t know about haki during pre time skip era because during marineford boa hancock kicked him and he was confused and asked her how she kicked him
but its said, that every vice admiral is able to use 2 types of haki
@@joghurt2058 smoker wasn’t a virgin admiral pre time skip he was a captain
vice*
17:00 CP9 not knowing Haki is interesting. Perhaps formal Haki training in the Marines is all about having ins with "the special people" or just learning it on your own. CP9 also seems to only operate in paradise and the four seas so that may consider it unnecessary to learn it and mayhaps a way to control them by keeping them ignorant or even a step up due to the similar out comes of Rokushiki make them think Rokushiki and Haki is one in the same.
I also believe zero used a form of haki against mr 1. At least that’s my head cannon
that could definitely be true
17:59 obviously the meta answer is "oda didn't think of it yet" of course but hear me out, what if he DID have conquerors in the past when he had the ambitions of a king to fight Kaido and become the pirate king but then he naturally lost it over time when he decided to stop his own development due to his trauma of losing his crew? I mean it could be a stretch but it would make sense why it isn't seen in the pre-time skip era besides the meta answer.
Sometimes u can see the crew use haki tho in the series like zoro dodging the sword thrown at him or ussop shooting the crown against the one sharpshooter guy in the beginnings.I think it’s just cause they haven’t seen it be obvious until fishman island.I think he definitely was hinting tho I think with our crew.cause it’s not visible unless u have haki yourself.I may be looking into the scenes too much but maybe we couldn’t see cp9 use it cause he hadn’t seen or used it himself.also I think nami has weather haki or it goes with observation😂 cause even vivi says nami detects stuff most navigators can’t.
"One muscle can be trained in many different ways. It's just what you prefer over the competition that counts."
-Me and maybe some famous martial artist somewhere.
In regards to Crocodile's Haki Use, I think it's safe to say that he did use Haki ONCE against Luffy in their final battle. If you recall, it was the second last attack that Crocodile threw that emitted strange energy before it was launched and after it landed. I take that as Armament Haki, I don't know about anyone else, that's just what I saw.
Okay, Rokushiki techniques. There is an argument that could be made saying that those techniques are very specifically trained versions of Haki that protect against and work against INTERNAL Damage, I.E. Conqueror's Coating. However, that argument I think in my eyes is very loose and weak. There is a moment during Luffy and Kaido's fight right before Kaido's attack that shows a CP0 Agent locking his own body with Iron Body but how that transfers over to Luffy is confusing. It could be said that the CP0 Agent Imbued Luffy's internal musculature with Haki to Immobolize him, but, again, that's a stretch on my end to say the least.
P.S. : I am of the belief that you have to have Observation Haki to see Armament Haki but not actually NEED Observation to use Armament. It just makes sense.
P.S #2 : I just realized that this is a 2 year old video and it may not reach you but all the same hope this maybe helps.
I think the answer to this is pretty simple, Oda hadn’t thought it up yet haha. There’s no point to over analyze this, the reason you don’t see these characters use Haki pre time skip that most certainly should have been able to use it is that Oda hadn’t really created it yet. If you think he had then it’s a big plot hole for sure. You would think a warlord like Crocodile would most certainly be able to use Haki, and to try and justify why he wouldn’t use it is pointless. He didn’t use it cause the author hadn’t really worked it out yet, that’s it
Haki was in episode one, it was used just not shown.
@@DrooledOn why didn’t Crocodile use it then? He was a warlord and most certainly would have been able to use it to a degree.
@@joebeast15 there was haki we just couldn’t see it until luffy unlocked it for example boa had haki when she fought smoker
@@May9ine later in the pre timeskip it’s used but earlier on it’s not. Later on they pretty explicitly say that the only way to hit a Logia devil fruit user is to use Haki. Luffy is somehow able to defeat Crocodile without Haki despite the fact he wasn’t using Haki. He shouldn’t have been able to beat him then. I know the whole water thing was how but that’s doesn’t hold up to the later knowledge that Haki is the only way you can strike a logia devil fruit user
@@joebeast15 I mean ofc there going to say only haki beats devil fruits there not going to single out every logia and say oh you can use water on suna or get a vacuum on smoker
I know I'm pretty late to this but I just found this channel lol. I heard a really good idea that most of the pre-timeskip villains were washed up and didn't have any ambition, which is what haki is based on. Moria and Crocodile both gave up their dreams on becoming Pirate King after being crushed
Great vid. Happy to be the 2nd comment before this video absolutely blows up along w the channel !
Just made my day, seriously thank you.
In the remake, I want them to show uses of haki pre-timeskip I know they won't but I really want them to. I have a feeling Luffy tapped into it without even realizing he was doing so. Like in his fight against Arlong, where he snaps the saw blade into pieces with one hand.
Black beard did know haki. He said in impel down that luffys haki went up
white beard and shanks meeting (sky splitting conquerers). luffy almost getting his arms cut off by mihawk in marineford (observation, possibly futuresight)
Also Sentomaru used armament haki against luffy in the sabaody arc, luffy also used conquorers haki against duvals bull similiar to shanks did in the beginning
Morgan is a branch captain. Smoker is HQ. The difference in Oda's words is about 2-3 ranks.
We need that character analysis on kizaru. Admirals all have haki read the vivre card
Hold on hold on, there's an arc you skipped over. During the Millennial Dragon Arc, Luffy telepathically talks to a dragon. Which could only be done by a girl with them with the Whisper- Whisper Fruit. That's the earliest case of Haki in the entire show, besides Shank's Conquerors Haki. This case of Haki being Observation.
Yeah I skipped over it because while it’s a good arc it’s considered to be filler and therefore non-cannon
@@shaned.nelson6172 Pretty sure ANY filler is canon, but alright
@@kitchenspice8376 filler is legit non canon bro
@@chokomaru5465 Depends on the show, but a majority of the time it's canon
@@kitchenspice8376 filler is used when the anime gets too close to the mange which is why its called filler anything that isnt in the manga isnt canon (except for details tht are considered canon by the mangaka)
how could shanks lose an arm against a fish -.-
Kuro needs to come back
Okay so I remembered cp9 wrong big time lmao I genuinely thought they knew observation haki in fact I was so certain that enies lobby was the first instance haki was named dropped but I must be wrong 😅
Morgan cut garp with advanced COC
Wano spoilers
Broggy and dorry 100p use haki if they fought for 100 years without damaging their weapons (maybe even ryuo if you take in the visuals during ep77) and zoro learning to cut metal during alabasta is def related to observation imo
I believe that dorry and broggy used haki to kill the sea beast, which makes sense because they are from the new world.
Wano Spoilers
In the episode where they use it clearly which is 77 i think, it look’s almost like ryuo imo which would make sense because elbaf is in the new world and after wano
why is this video in 360p bro
I made the mistake of uploading it in poor quality
@@shaned.nelson6172 fair
who is your fav character, mine is luffy
that’s tough, I’d have to say either Jimbe, Brook, or Zoro