Tales of the abyss needs a remake. It's such a good game with a great story. I'd make changes to Luke's kit where he could use those spells asch can use as a post game thing and guardian field heals better like Alvin in xillia. Probably add some close range attack moves for tear and Natalia in case enemies get too close. Guy probably reverse and add a range move. Anise probably a whole revamp.
remake? We need atleast a port... damn thing still stuck in PS2 and 3DS jail. Atleast make them playable on the modern consoles or steam. Doesn't even need to be a remaster, just port the damn thing. T_T
But first Destiny 1 Eternia and Rebirth need ports/remasters in English on the PS4 PS5 Switch and in the case of Eternia the PROPER names of skills ie Demon Fang NOT SONIC blade for Reid for a Eternia port.
@@veghesther3204 honestly wish they could just do a special tales of package and have all the older games in one purchase like how Symphonia 1 and 2 came together(then not)
I will say, I am an Anise apologist through and through- but in my experience she was incredibly tanky. Like, bulkier than several other characters *combined* tanky. I fail to consistently combo artes and chain combos, but she refuses to die. I also appreciated her staggering and gold grind skills! Idk if it was just my build or my preference for her gameplay but she carried my team even when I had no knowledge of anything in game
I agree with this guy on most lists but this one isnt completely fair. Luke being the worst is true. But Guy however has some of the best combos in the game by a mile, as an AI tho he's terrible.
Yea I played through Abyss with my wife last year and I used Guy almost exclusively while she was Luke. Luke is disgustingly good when controlled, but just runs back and forth as an AI
This may be a controversial opinion, but I would move him up to top tier on this list. He is simply too good for FOF generation. The items for shortening cast time and free run can really help him as a mage. And he's got some Lance skills good for some enemy knock back, my favorite being the thunder one.
The previous comment I left contained linked and probably got held for review, but a significant portion of your video uses my footage without credit. Asch at 1:00 Asch at 1:07 Luke at 1:32 Luke at 1:39 Anise at 2:29 Anise at 2:50 Jade at 2:57 Jade at 3:11 Natalia at 3:38 Natalia at 3:44 Tear at 4:08
This is the best tales game in the franchise. Yes the combat system is a bit dated compared to later entries into the series but the story and character development is executed almost to perfection.
Tales lists are always a welcome treat for me. And they always make me think some day we'll get ones for Berseria, the Xillia games, and Graces F, haha.
I'm surprised you placed guy so low, he is AMAZING! I use him most of the time if I'm not using Tear or Natalia he is my good to go, loved all his combo he pretty much has an infinite with tempest, My team at the end was: Guy, Tear, Natalia, Jade/Alise (depends on the enemy weakness but I used Jade more he is hilarious!).
Luke and Anise are capable of self-healing with the right FSC while using Steel and Mighty Charge respectively (also Natalia's Cavalry, but she's a healer either way). Those second MA are only available for Luke and Guy, if you have the Key of Lorelei (the complete version) and Jewel of Gardios equipped... so just endgame MA. I agree with your tier list, but I feel every character are good if you know how to use them
Ive finished this game 3 times and it was on my 3rd playthrough that I noticed Natalia's damage was pretty high. She starts out very lackluster in heals and damage so I usually used her the least. But once you unlock some of the passive combo skills she becomes a good long range combo dealer.
Great, now you should continue with the Tales of series tier lists. Here is my list on what series I would like you to start with in order: *Tales of Xillia (1st) *Tales of Xillia 2 (2nd) *Tales of Berseria (3rd) *Tales of Symphonia (sequel) (4th)
I always found that Tear would heal herself instead of others. I actually preferred to have Guy, Luke, Anise, and Natalia. I haven’t played in forever but I just remember Tear practically letting me and my friends die so I ended up preferring items over spells.
I love how the initial thought people would have at a white mage/bard class fusion would be the most support-based character in existence. Nah-ah, she *can* do that if she wants but Tear'd much rather be here to sing your funeral dirge, enjoy radiant judgement from the heavens.
Spellcaster in Tales series are different breeds. Characters like Tear, Jade, Anise are already beast. Then came in Rita from Vesperia who blew ALL MAGES OF JRPG OUTTA THE WATER.
Get hyped! I tried to get my wife to play this game, but she kept dozing off. "This kind of game just puts me to sleep," she told me. And I'm just like, Okay, so, this is some of the best character writing in any video game ever, period. And you LIKE character writing; it's why you made ME watch Mad Men. So, if this caliber of work puts you to sleep, how do you stay awake while you play anything else? (And the answer is that she plays gameplay-driven titles like Hades. Which, to be sure, is a great game! But it's no Tales of the Abyss.)
TBH I never compared damage values between characters. It's almost impossible in this game anyway bc you always want to be passing around the optimal CC cores every time someone levels up and you're going to mess up somewhere, especially with your 2 benchwarmers. I'm half-expecting there to be something I never realized, like "actually Tear/Anise are better at spamming spell damage than Jade lol".
Entertaining list! I never used Natalia so i didnt know she was that good! I agree with Tear as the MVP since even the AI isnt bad. I usually played as Guy so I didnt know that his AI was that horrible haha
Oh this is gonna be good. Best guess a split between best as a npc and best as a useable unit we see tear and Natalia top tier as support same with jade. While Luke is better as a main as his combos can juggle opponents if you do it well. Anise probably mid to bottom as she is never that useful and only good to fill up the monster index while guy is very fast Asch is basically same as Luke aside the fact he can actually use spells which could make him a good support as well like a faster jade if the game let us use him more.
Honestly, I would’ve put Van and Ion in shit tier and then bumped Asch above Luke in low due to it being possible to glitch him into a permanent party role and actually swap his equipment out. Van for doing literally nothing and Ion for being a short-lived assist, the game counts them on the party so they may as well qualify for the list.
Okay I'm gonna be super biased here this game holds a special place in my heart because I remembered as a kid when I came across this game from a review from years ago that gave it a 3 out of 5, I said to myself there's no way this game is that mediocre so I asked my cousin well not really asked but more like I saw the game at a gamestop and said to myself I wonder how good it would be if I had this at Christmas time........ My cousin straight up got me the game for Christmas at that point and I played the s*** out of it. So much so that it's probably the one game in the series that I know the most about except for side content where I have to do a whole bunch of multiple times since this was before the later games were they implemented the better new game plus features. That being said your list makes perfect sense and I say this as someone who's played this game way too many times and I had a feeling Tear would be the God tier despite the fact that she calls Luke an idiot like 500 times but at least Abyss is the only tales game to have an anime that lasted longer than 12 episodes, add some things that was from the game but expanded upon and it gave us tear being more of a cute dork. What I'm saying is this was a very very good solid list and it needs to be said this game needs to be re-released on other platforms I'm still mad that it was only available on the PS2 and when it did get released it was reduced to the 3DS like come on Namco.
Natalia should be lower since she only has a single arte that can generate a FOF. What Anise lacks in stats she makes up for in being able to create light and dark FOFs that benifit Tear and Jade heavily. Also like Anise, Guy should be bumped up because how broken free run is...and he's the fastest character plus center an accessory than can regenerate TP the skill floor with having him solo the game is much lower than everyone else. Also Cresent Strike gaurd breaks so consistently, severing wind creates a wind FOF and can FOF chain into inself...but most importantly you can quickly create a wind FOF to turn Tear's Healing Circle into a Fairy Circle.
I'm very happy with this list!!!! And yeah while I got a few old combo videos with Luke and guy I be honest they are really nothing without their support. And then top 2 imo are simply the best is this game!!! Hope to see Xillia 2 I don't think it's no point for the first Xillia as they got buffed anyway in the second game :D
@locloudanerpg Appreciate the reply! Yea I just watched your Path of Radiance vid. Great job! It's what reminded me of Radiant Dawn. Also the Persona series might be a good idea for this.
Abyss is somewhat the opposite of Arise. Abyss: Great story, mid gameplay = Arise: Great gameplay, mid story. Too bad Bandai Namco is so stingy when it comes to Tales. Otherwise, we'd have a remaster that would improve on Abyss gameplay.
Don't know how this came up in my feed, but I'm down. Haven't hit play yet, but if Guy isn't either in top tier or his own giga tier, I call bullsh- I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinions LOL
Guy is the best character in the game. You could beat unknown mode solo guy so no idea how he is so low given his absurd arte choices and stagger. Abyss definitely is not one of the most balanced cast and you either love Luke or hate him. Its a shame you can't get his outfit he gets with the scarf after beating teh game as a postgame reward and how bad luke is compared to everyone else. Also a shame how there is like 15 tales games either not localized or inaccessible to the western audeince and eastern because of being locked on older consoles like Graces F and the Xillia games. I don't know how you are rating characters in these games like this series but given how in Tales of you can pretty much combo bosses to death if you get good enough and learn them as well as fighting game mechanics being used in the series to a small extent i don't think range matters much at all and the big defining factors in tiering is utility and strength basically how good they do their roles. I wish they made luke an aerial fighter though cause he feels like he was supposed to be more aerial based but then they scrapped the idea and patched him up giving him one of the most broken artes in the series lightspear cannon which can carry anyone that gets access to it not to mention making him an aerial fighter would be a better contrast to Asch's style and give Luke his own niche as well as make him feel different from Asch instead of being a worse Asch. Even in the intro luke is attacking asch from the air and running on walls and none of that was really translated into luke's gameply. I wish they dabbled in aerial fighters more throughout the series cause when the series does use aerial fighters its a fun alternate playstyle that adds variety. The ones that come to mind that were really great aerial fighters for me are Judith from Vesperia and Emile from symphonia 2 the unfortunate thing for Emile is the battle cam was awful in dawn of the new world so his aerial combos had to pretty much be done blind.
Sorry but Luke > guy because he have fire, wind, and earth elemental attack. Using golder orb? On your skill, you can chain his skill into better elemental one
Tales of the abyss is so divisive. You either really like Luke as a character, or absolutely hate him. I ditched him and used Guy because I couldnt stand him story wise, and is the only game I can think of where I dropped the MC of an RPG from my party completely. Like its hard to rate a game highly when the MC who the story completely revolves around is the so polarizing. The rest of the cast is good to excellent and also the opening is an absolute banger.
Guy is actually one of the best characters if you know what you're doing, since he can combo infinitely around the mid-game. I would place him over Jade. Asch also has infinite combos from the beginning since you can cancel his spells. And you can get Asch forever through a glitch but sadly you can't change his equipment.
Judith was good just she wasn't available till act 3 with her full kit. I have no idea why they made aerial artes 2 available so late into the game. She gets the other stuff she needs during act 2 and once she has her kit and before she has an arte and infinite and this arte does 7k damage when everyone else will only be doing 1k with their arte if you level up this arte which was lunar rise which is learned before the weird mantaray boss fight so Judith was actually insanely broken but you had to actually be good or use her or you could abuse her aerial damage skill overlimit and spam lunar rise for disgusting damage untill you get to act 3 and get aerial artes 2. Flynn is the one that get the short end of the stick here not Judith. Flynn is a worse estelle and he has no way to continue combos outside of overlimit since he has a lot of synergy issues and some of his arte hitboxes are really small and weirdly done. Not to mention Flynn doesn't get access to a lot of the good damage skills like yuri, karol, even Patty and Raven do. Flynn is by no means bad but he is definitely the worst in Vesperia.
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Me: "Oh, a Tales of the Abyss tier list! I KNOW Guy's gonna be top tier!
*Guy appears in the low tier*
Me: "Yup...... I'm out!"
Tales of the abyss needs a remake. It's such a good game with a great story.
I'd make changes to Luke's kit where he could use those spells asch can use as a post game thing and guardian field heals better like Alvin in xillia.
Probably add some close range attack moves for tear and Natalia in case enemies get too close. Guy probably reverse and add a range move. Anise probably a whole revamp.
remake? We need atleast a port... damn thing still stuck in PS2 and 3DS jail.
Atleast make them playable on the modern consoles or steam. Doesn't even need to be a remaster, just port the damn thing. T_T
But first Destiny 1 Eternia and Rebirth need ports/remasters in English on the PS4 PS5 Switch and in the case of Eternia the PROPER names of skills ie Demon Fang NOT SONIC blade for Reid for a Eternia port.
@@veghesther3204 honestly wish they could just do a special tales of package and have all the older games in one purchase like how Symphonia 1 and 2 came together(then not)
The Tear love makes me so happy. She was my favourite in every sense anyway
I will say, I am an Anise apologist through and through- but in my experience she was incredibly tanky. Like, bulkier than several other characters *combined* tanky. I fail to consistently combo artes and chain combos, but she refuses to die. I also appreciated her staggering and gold grind skills! Idk if it was just my build or my preference for her gameplay but she carried my team even when I had no knowledge of anything in game
My personal lineup involves Guy as controlled, Jade as a mage, and Natalia as healer/attacker, and Tear as a healer
I agree with this guy on most lists but this one isnt completely fair. Luke being the worst is true. But Guy however has some of the best combos in the game by a mile, as an AI tho he's terrible.
I agree guy is completely op but ig if you don't wanna learn hit to use him, not that he's even complicated, bro is mad simple
Yea I played through Abyss with my wife last year and I used Guy almost exclusively while she was Luke. Luke is disgustingly good when controlled, but just runs back and forth as an AI
We all know that Jade, character wise, is God Tier.
Luke! You’re getting so smart!!
This may be a controversial opinion, but I would move him up to top tier on this list. He is simply too good for FOF generation. The items for shortening cast time and free run can really help him as a mage. And he's got some Lance skills good for some enemy knock back, my favorite being the thunder one.
@@raina1848 I usually play MC in RPGs party, but whenever I do playthrough with friends, I have dibs on Jade.
@@lightdragoon88 I tend to use either him, Tear, or Natalia the most for my controllable character.
The previous comment I left contained linked and probably got held for review, but a significant portion of your video uses my footage without credit.
Asch at 1:00
Asch at 1:07
Luke at 1:32
Luke at 1:39
Anise at 2:29
Anise at 2:50
Jade at 2:57
Jade at 3:11
Natalia at 3:38
Natalia at 3:44
Tear at 4:08
@rinkiritales Not sure how I missed you in the credits. Sorry about that. I've added your channel.
This is the best tales game in the franchise. Yes the combat system is a bit dated compared to later entries into the series but the story and character development is executed almost to perfection.
Tales lists are always a welcome treat for me. And they always make me think some day we'll get ones for Berseria, the Xillia games, and Graces F, haha.
I’m working on the Xilia list as we speak.
@@locloudanerpg Haha, nice. Nowadays people tend to forget about some of the wonky stuff Jude gets.
Xilia and Garces F, we need
Abyss is one of my first Tales games, and I think it has very good story. Nice list, I almost never use Anise 😂
Me neither. My crew is Luke, Jade, Tear and Natalia.
@@locloudanerpgThat's my team too!!!!
IMHO, Luke is the best protagonist in the series. He has the best character development
I'm surprised you placed guy so low, he is AMAZING! I use him most of the time if I'm not using Tear or Natalia he is my good to go, loved all his combo he pretty much has an infinite with tempest, My team at the end was: Guy, Tear, Natalia, Jade/Alise (depends on the enemy weakness but I used Jade more he is hilarious!).
Can we get a star ocean second story r tier list?
Working on it.
Luke and Anise are capable of self-healing with the right FSC while using Steel and Mighty Charge respectively (also Natalia's Cavalry, but she's a healer either way).
Those second MA are only available for Luke and Guy, if you have the Key of Lorelei (the complete version) and Jewel of Gardios equipped... so just endgame MA.
I agree with your tier list, but I feel every character are good if you know how to use them
Ive finished this game 3 times and it was on my 3rd playthrough that I noticed Natalia's damage was pretty high. She starts out very lackluster in heals and damage so I usually used her the least. But once you unlock some of the passive combo skills she becomes a good long range combo dealer.
Great, now you should continue with the Tales of series tier lists. Here is my list on what series I would like you to start with in order:
*Tales of Xillia (1st)
*Tales of Xillia 2 (2nd)
*Tales of Berseria (3rd)
*Tales of Symphonia (sequel) (4th)
Yes Master
@@locloudanerpg Very well, you do not need to rush.
@@starface2178 😂
I always found that Tear would heal herself instead of others. I actually preferred to have Guy, Luke, Anise, and Natalia. I haven’t played in forever but I just remember Tear practically letting me and my friends die so I ended up preferring items over spells.
My party was always guy natalia tear and anise.
I love how the initial thought people would have at a white mage/bard class fusion would be the most support-based character in existence.
Nah-ah, she *can* do that if she wants but Tear'd much rather be here to sing your funeral dirge, enjoy radiant judgement from the heavens.
Spellcaster in Tales series are different breeds. Characters like Tear, Jade, Anise are already beast. Then came in Rita from Vesperia who blew ALL MAGES OF JRPG OUTTA THE WATER.
Or should I say blah blah blah tidal waved them out of the water.
@@locloudanerpg DAMN IT!!! Was about to edit that shit. You beat me to it.
Get hyped!
I tried to get my wife to play this game, but she kept dozing off. "This kind of game just puts me to sleep," she told me. And I'm just like, Okay, so, this is some of the best character writing in any video game ever, period. And you LIKE character writing; it's why you made ME watch Mad Men. So, if this caliber of work puts you to sleep, how do you stay awake while you play anything else? (And the answer is that she plays gameplay-driven titles like Hades. Which, to be sure, is a great game! But it's no Tales of the Abyss.)
Haha did you tell her it was co op?! Also Mad Men and Abyss were never two things I thought would be compared.
TBH I never compared damage values between characters. It's almost impossible in this game anyway bc you always want to be passing around the optimal CC cores every time someone levels up and you're going to mess up somewhere, especially with your 2 benchwarmers. I'm half-expecting there to be something I never realized, like "actually Tear/Anise are better at spamming spell damage than Jade lol".
Entertaining list! I never used Natalia so i didnt know she was that good! I agree with Tear as the MVP since even the AI isnt bad. I usually played as Guy so I didnt know that his AI was that horrible haha
Oh this is gonna be good.
Best guess a split between best as a npc and best as a useable unit we see tear and Natalia top tier as support same with jade. While Luke is better as a main as his combos can juggle opponents if you do it well.
Anise probably mid to bottom as she is never that useful and only good to fill up the monster index while guy is very fast
Asch is basically same as Luke aside the fact he can actually use spells which could make him a good support as well like a faster jade if the game let us use him more.
Nice job!
Good list! Could the next one be Xillia 1 or 2? That'd be interesting considering all the builds and gimmicks every character has!
Honestly, I would’ve put Van and Ion in shit tier and then bumped Asch above Luke in low due to it being possible to glitch him into a permanent party role and actually swap his equipment out. Van for doing literally nothing and Ion for being a short-lived assist, the game counts them on the party so they may as well qualify for the list.
Okay I'm gonna be super biased here this game holds a special place in my heart because I remembered as a kid when I came across this game from a review from years ago that gave it a 3 out of 5, I said to myself there's no way this game is that mediocre so I asked my cousin well not really asked but more like I saw the game at a gamestop and said to myself I wonder how good it would be if I had this at Christmas time........ My cousin straight up got me the game for Christmas at that point and I played the s*** out of it. So much so that it's probably the one game in the series that I know the most about except for side content where I have to do a whole bunch of multiple times since this was before the later games were they implemented the better new game plus features. That being said your list makes perfect sense and I say this as someone who's played this game way too many times and I had a feeling Tear would be the God tier despite the fact that she calls Luke an idiot like 500 times but at least Abyss is the only tales game to have an anime that lasted longer than 12 episodes, add some things that was from the game but expanded upon and it gave us tear being more of a cute dork. What I'm saying is this was a very very good solid list and it needs to be said this game needs to be re-released on other platforms I'm still mad that it was only available on the PS2 and when it did get released it was reduced to the 3DS like come on Namco.
Agreed and agreed.
Natalia should be lower since she only has a single arte that can generate a FOF.
What Anise lacks in stats she makes up for in being able to create light and dark FOFs that benifit Tear and Jade heavily.
Also like Anise, Guy should be bumped up because how broken free run is...and he's the fastest character plus center an accessory than can regenerate TP the skill floor with having him solo the game is much lower than everyone else. Also Cresent Strike gaurd breaks so consistently, severing wind creates a wind FOF and can FOF chain into inself...but most importantly you can quickly create a wind FOF to turn Tear's Healing Circle into a Fairy Circle.
Locloudane do you think of tales of graces tier list
I do not agree with Guy so low he has some insane combo i beated the secret boss at unknow mode just with him
I'm very happy with this list!!!!
And yeah while I got a few old combo videos with Luke and guy I be honest they are really nothing without their support.
And then top 2 imo are simply the best is this game!!!
Hope to see Xillia 2
I don't think it's no point for the first Xillia as they got buffed anyway in the second game :D
Leaving my comment here knows that this is top tier content and that I love it thank you bye
It’s funny that Luke was able to change from an asshole to a hero, but his combat and gameplay didn’t change at all.
The field of fonon mechanic was my favorite
Are you ever going to do a xillia tier list. it’s my favorite one by far
Soon my friend.
Ok well I guess I'm pretty bad on tiers lol my party was Luke (controlled) Guy Jade Tear
Surprised to see my girl Anise outside of bottom tier😅
There is a real glich in the ps2 that let you keep asch
Damn I never saw a protagonist being the worst choice!!!
You should do a Who Is Best on the members of Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. That game was a struggle to get through
I’ve done path of radiance but haven’t gotten around to Radiant Dawn yet.
@locloudanerpg Appreciate the reply! Yea I just watched your Path of Radiance vid. Great job! It's what reminded me of Radiant Dawn. Also the Persona series might be a good idea for this.
I've lost count how many times Luke has Radiant Howled absolutely nothing on the AI. 😓
Abyss is somewhat the opposite of Arise. Abyss: Great story, mid gameplay = Arise: Great gameplay, mid story. Too bad Bandai Namco is so stingy when it comes to Tales. Otherwise, we'd have a remaster that would improve on Abyss gameplay.
Don't know how this came up in my feed, but I'm down. Haven't hit play yet, but if Guy isn't either in top tier or his own giga tier, I call bullsh- I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinions LOL
I always get upset I never got to play much of this game. I touched it on my 3DS but that's it
Guy is the best character in the game. You could beat unknown mode solo guy so no idea how he is so low given his absurd arte choices and stagger. Abyss definitely is not one of the most balanced cast and you either love Luke or hate him. Its a shame you can't get his outfit he gets with the scarf after beating teh game as a postgame reward and how bad luke is compared to everyone else. Also a shame how there is like 15 tales games either not localized or inaccessible to the western audeince and eastern because of being locked on older consoles like Graces F and the Xillia games. I don't know how you are rating characters in these games like this series but given how in Tales of you can pretty much combo bosses to death if you get good enough and learn them as well as fighting game mechanics being used in the series to a small extent i don't think range matters much at all and the big defining factors in tiering is utility and strength basically how good they do their roles. I wish they made luke an aerial fighter though cause he feels like he was supposed to be more aerial based but then they scrapped the idea and patched him up giving him one of the most broken artes in the series lightspear cannon which can carry anyone that gets access to it not to mention making him an aerial fighter would be a better contrast to Asch's style and give Luke his own niche as well as make him feel different from Asch instead of being a worse Asch. Even in the intro luke is attacking asch from the air and running on walls and none of that was really translated into luke's gameply. I wish they dabbled in aerial fighters more throughout the series cause when the series does use aerial fighters its a fun alternate playstyle that adds variety. The ones that come to mind that were really great aerial fighters for me are Judith from Vesperia and Emile from symphonia 2 the unfortunate thing for Emile is the battle cam was awful in dawn of the new world so his aerial combos had to pretty much be done blind.
If Asch not listed then man oh man!!!
Btw Jade must win. I love that man!!!
Asch is here……..Jade may not win…….
Sorry but Luke > guy because he have fire, wind, and earth elemental attack. Using golder orb? On your skill, you can chain his skill into better elemental one
Tales of the abyss is so divisive. You either really like Luke as a character, or absolutely hate him. I ditched him and used Guy because I couldnt stand him story wise, and is the only game I can think of where I dropped the MC of an RPG from my party completely.
Like its hard to rate a game highly when the MC who the story completely revolves around is the so polarizing. The rest of the cast is good to excellent and also the opening is an absolute banger.
Guy is actually one of the best characters if you know what you're doing, since he can combo infinitely around the mid-game. I would place him over Jade.
Asch also has infinite combos from the beginning since you can cancel his spells. And you can get Asch forever through a glitch but sadly you can't change his equipment.
waiting for the remake/emaster...
TALES OF JUMPSCARE
Request tales of Xillia bro
Cless is the BESS!!!
For me Guy NOT Luke is the best one to control even at lv 200 on Normal mode and Natalia is pure CRAP.
WACK-ass list. Natalia is, by far, the worst character in the game.
Her single target heals are better and she casts faster than Tear. Make her your healer, use Tear as your DPS caster and you’ve got a winning team
>natalia best damage dealer. was this made wtih ai lmao.
Peter Griffin: BUT I WANT IT NOW!!!
😂
I will never forgive the Tales series for making Judith so awful
Haha never stopped me from having her on my team.
@@locloudanerpg her 100 man melee was not a vibe
Judith was good just she wasn't available till act 3 with her full kit. I have no idea why they made aerial artes 2 available so late into the game. She gets the other stuff she needs during act 2 and once she has her kit and before she has an arte and infinite and this arte does 7k damage when everyone else will only be doing 1k with their arte if you level up this arte which was lunar rise which is learned before the weird mantaray boss fight so Judith was actually insanely broken but you had to actually be good or use her or you could abuse her aerial damage skill overlimit and spam lunar rise for disgusting damage untill you get to act 3 and get aerial artes 2. Flynn is the one that get the short end of the stick here not Judith. Flynn is a worse estelle and he has no way to continue combos outside of overlimit since he has a lot of synergy issues and some of his arte hitboxes are really small and weirdly done. Not to mention Flynn doesn't get access to a lot of the good damage skills like yuri, karol, even Patty and Raven do. Flynn is by no means bad but he is definitely the worst in Vesperia.
@@dave9515 I didn't remember asking for oppinions
All I needed to see was Asch being the lowest for a illogical reason. Guy and Luke being low just made it worse.
Cry about it.
So tired of all those overrated tales games stealing the spotlight from the true best in the series, Tales of Graces.