You can tell he’s gonna be a champion! He’s the youngest guy out there and finished 4th in his first Pro race. Soon as he gets a little more experience and can consistently start up towards the front, he’s gonna win some races. Can’t wait until he settles in and isn’t as anxious/nervous, I think he’s gonna shine!
Haiden is a huge talent, having Brian in his corner is huge. Its very apparent that Haiden puts a lot of pressure on himself to succeed, he puts in the work and those around him at the farm and from Yamaha give him so much encouragement. He is a fast learner, next two meetings will tell a big story on his year ahead.
His mechanic made a comment at mini o’s that harden hated loosing more than he liked winning, that’s an attitude that champions have, I’ve heard James Stewart and Eli tomic make statements about being tired of loosing after a single race loss, that could be the it factor, that drive mixed with natural talent is a dangerous combination, that drives a champion to do the work that greatness takes.
@@motooutsider I absolutely understand and respect a healthy debate of his talents and abilities but I really don’t understand the hate you see online about him, sometimes I wonder if it’s just a dumb response to all the blind love and admiration he gets from the large fan base he has from his online presence.
@@kendodson4134 I think the hate is part of the reason our sport is so small. Older guys hate on him because he’s on RUclips and they think he’s bought his titles and ride at star. They hate popularity outside of the sport. They want the sport to stay small and niche. Js7 got so much hate as well.
Awesome Danger boy I can only imagine the hard work he has put in the 12 plus years for this moment! This young man is so possitive and has such a great head on his shoulders. I wish you all the success in your professional Career and in life youngster! Keep being a possitive roll model for everyone!
There was a kid in the futures race at A2 named "Beaumer", who was running laps about .7 seconds faster than Haiden during the qualifiers, and right in there with the top 5 250 guys. I don't know what happened to him in the futures main, but I bet he will be old enough to turn pro soon. You guys don't see him coming? check the stats.
He landed hard and his bars were either bent or shifted down. Couldn’t finish. I agree, he was putting up good lap times. I think he’s still racing amateur in the B class. Not even A yet. He’ll be there within the next 2 years.
As they said in the pre race, just go log laps. He was cautious on the starts and lost a little ground. He was railing those turns! He backed out of a couple scrums and avoided the takeouts. He was a solid 6P riding conservatively and was gifted the last to places to 4th when riders went down. Absolutely amazing race for a kid these days given all the hype and criticisms!
It was no gift, that’s racing people are going to crash, if you don’t, then you earned those positions with consistency and not making the mistakes they did!
Deegan is the goods. He's had the money and coaching, Plenty of other kids come from money that race and they aren't close to him. Haiden has put in serious work. We haven't seen him really dive into being a fitness freak yet either. He is just developing his mature body and getting stronger. Wait until he is early 20's and hopefully Injury free. Plenty of Greats from Ricky, McGrath, James and Eli all say he is a Supreme talent. These aren't guys easily impressed. Imagine if Haiden destroys the 250's for a couple Championships and moves up and Jett is doing what he is expected to do. The sport will have to be raised up a level and garner new attention. These two have all the potential of being the biggest stars Moto has ever had.
I am 53, don't ride, but have followed this kid deegan since covid. Your question was does money make him good. I live by a philosophy hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard. Based on videos, he works hard and appears to be humble.
4th. Numbers don't lie. The sky is the limit. There are a lot of uncontrollable factors in racing, but for all that IS in his control, he's going to smash it.
@@motooutsider True. But, let's be honest. Expectations do nothing to help the rider but rather hurt him. It's all about heart. No matter the talent or team, if a rider doesn't have the heart, it's all for nothing. He's shown to have a heart comparable to a boxer with a good chin. He came back from all that criticism and hatred THE NEXT WEEK after the futures race and did this...c'mon. At 17. That's grown man, purple heart heart. Training, trainers, money, family, equipment, can only get you so far. He has what it takes to get himself the rest of the way...and that's just rare.
Impressive stat was his lap time over the weekend. Fastest to the slowest lap was 2 second! You can tell he has put in the hard work. Money doesn’t buy that
He's the real deal in my mind, but this moto. The question always is, "it's not if you'll get hurt, it's when and how bad". This could change overnight with a single injury. One thing is different with Haiden, he doesn't get tired, no arm pump, this dude doesn't even sweat at the end of a moto. Let's give him a chance to become an adult. The kid is seventeen and still growing. Let's sit back and enjoy watching how good he can become.
Yes, he’s the real deal. I think Brian will focus on keeping him successful. He is very talented. I believe the key will be staying healthy. There are many other fast riders out there that have gotten hurt over and over and it’s jeopardizing their career. Stay healthy and consistent. Case in point. Dungey wasn’t always the fastest but he was consistent and stayed healthy.
2024 Deegan wins championship. Kids a work horse. Putting in those hours shows, he’s super comfortable out there. Speeds getting faster and faster. By the end of this season deegan wins 2 races.
Well the hype i real as a follower of SX since 78 Haiden is the real thing he will be a multiple time champ in the 250 class! Braswell had a bad day he will be fine! And for Haiden money did not buy him skills and hard work! He has hardly had any injury! He is only going to get better!! And notice I said 250! Because he will not be a champion in the 450 class for a long time due to Jett and a few more!! Great show guys!! Keep it up they will come!! And your spot on about the family! But as always you will always have your haters!! And Haiden is mature beyond his years! Haiden could podium by the end of the year! And I agree he will be above the rest by the end of the year! His fitness a is above all the other rookies Chance said he was spent by the 4th lap!! Move up to the 450 when he maxis out on points!! He has Ludacris corner speed!! REAL REAL REAL!!
@@motooutsider yep just think he has only been on a 250 around 15 months!! And as ror the 450 hell he can ride one of them to but I bet he does not race that class for 4 to 5 years or points out or what ever there new rules are I know they changed it! One thing about that breaking the record for championships now in the 250s will never get done since you can have so many!
Your looking at a KID, when that race was over when his parents got to his truck he was like a kid that just scored a touch down in school he has not even shown an inkling of what kind of talent thats comin in next few years his corner speed was faster than antbody on a bike period go to johnny hoppers channel and look at the corner speed its incredible i think the young man has bought into going out there and getting seat time no matter where he finishes and i think everyone should drop the expectations a little and allow him to do what carmichael said what james stewart said and his dad “GO OUT THERE AND LEARN YOUR RACECRAFT DONT WORRY ABOUT THE RACE FINISH” just my opinion 🤘🤘
@@motooutsider i really think if he stays healthy were gonna get to see something special i started watching him on a 50 because i was deegan fan from way back and saw right off the start the boy has a natural talent but got the brain to go with it..hudson can do things most grown ups cant but dont have that killer instinct that haiden has and i firmly believe a person has to want it cause theyve still gotta line up and run the whoops and that stuff is way bigger in real time than what you see on tv so glad to finally see somebody on here not bashing the boy and talking positive 👍👍
If you want to if haiden has talent or if it's just money, all you need to do is look at his little brother, same money, same coach none of the grit. To quote duff " I asked to be with haiden because I can see how much talent the kids got, he is going to be a champion and I want to be along for the ride when he does".
Vialle will podium this year for sure he is proper quick maybe his race fitness is lacking slightly. As for Deegan everyone needs to just chill a little, he is no where near Jett Lawrence's level yet will he ever get there yet to be seen. Agree that this season will be learning season I don't see him as a podium rider this year, the raw data shows he is not quick enough at this stage of his career, his consistency is good but can he go that next step and drop that extra second a lap to be up with top guys and maintain that consistency that's going to be the litmus test. At the moment the hype is just hype until he can run consistently the same lap times as Lawrance, Anstie, Smith, Thrasher even Vialle, I also think if it was a fully fit east coast competition his results would be different aswell and he would be on the edge of the top 10, which is still impressive. When guys like Shimoda come back into the picture he drops a spot, if Hammaker and Swoll make it back this year he drops another 2 spots. That's just the reality of his speed right now, before everyone says its a hate on Deegan im just looking at the here and now data not his potential and hype. Out of the small sample size now being 2 races he is still over a second a lap slower than the top riders what gets him the 4th places is his consistency and that is a credit to him, simply put he's stayed on the bike while others have fallen around him.
What a bad video title !!!??????? From here in France it's incredible to see how many people said bad things about him!! Like TM128 , HD238 is the new champion generation 🤩 Go on boys !!!! 👍😎🇫🇷🏁
I love all the debates by non professional riders. Everybody who's opinion actually matters is that he is gonna be a multi time champ! The kid is only sixteen and only gonna get better! And I'm tired of hearing about the money, poor people dont race, some may have more than others but all have some money.
Who are these guys? Can anybody look at some numbers and put on a show with little to no historical knowledge or riding/racing experience? Do people do this kind of stuff to make some money from YT because they can't find a job after college? Do these guys know what side of the bike the brakes are on? "Best Debut you ever saw!!"? Smith, Hannah, Lechien, Bradshaw, McGrath, RC, James, Alessi, Villapoto, and Rick Mellon were all guys who had a more impressive debut, (Haiden is doing great though),---but you guys don't know who I am taking about.
Funny how you chose to comment on this same video 3 separate times. You must be pretty upset! I’ll answer some of your questions below to appease you: 1.) if you want to know who we are, go Back to our first video which explains all of that. Chances are, you haven’t - but it’s a great place to start. 2.) you can put on a show with little to know knowledge on any topic. Sounds like what RUclips was meant for! Even though we analyze stats, results, context before each episode. 3.) Both of us have full time careers which far exceeds the income we get from doing this. Fun fact: we make $0 from RUclips. We do this because we love the sport and it’s fun to rile up people like you who appear to be upset at everything. 4.) pretty sure there are no brakes on a bike - but what do I know? Had to change my headlight fluid last night though! Have a good day man! Try not to be so angry next time 🤘
Why cant people see true talent since he put a leg over the first bike! Hayden is a beast and will be in tomacs league no doubt. The only thing that can stop that is an injury
I believe the hype is real I also believe there's an extra amount of hype that are not asking for but receiving anyway and that's not their fault his dad's a smart guy and it's helped manager sister and she's done pretty well I do believe her little brother is more talented in his field and I think he's going to be a great racer and definitely bring more fans to the sport he's gotten me back interested I'm from the south and work footballguys but I'll football guys want to race dirt bikes LOL
His father is a genius marketer which naturally brings a lot of attention to anyone with the Deegan name. Hence why a majority of people cant understand why he's all over the Moto Media. But with that hype comes expectation to perform. Its go-time for this kid.
@@motooutsider bro just really appreciating the fair commentary people like cook c-mob and Johnny f and Harper who jumped on the story about the whole by claiming incident and then has Brian get a little pissed at them now they're holding grudges really just talkin bad about a sixteen-year-old kid doesn't seem fair to him he puts into work and he super fast
@@motooutsider sorry I do talk-to-text I drive a trash truck all day so I don't have time to type it all out LOL you might have to read between the lines
Axel and his dad said many times there no real money is motocross or super cross you have to be top 1 or 2 .......and that what they do now makes them 10x more $$$ with alot less headache
I can absolutely see that. Plus, I dont think SX/MX is even Axels style. But the kid is stupid fast on any track he shows up to. But racing is too corporate for that kid. Plus, RUclipss probably way more fun for the dude!
@@motooutsider as long as no mistakes he can be. Ive been watching his race since he was a little danger boy, damn he liked to win every race and now he is 100% pro rider so excited to see him at podium🔥
I am a big fan but I don't think he has the speed yet to run with hunter Lawrence, but what he did was crazy I guessed the best he would finish was 5th he stayed out of trouble and rode a clean race . Hopefully after a few races I would love to see him make the podium.
He was over 20 seconds behind the leaders, his lap time was quite a bit off hunters as well, the field is a bit depleted and several guys gave haiden position, solid ride for the rookie, but champion this year idk. I don’t think the team wants that either, he’d have to go 450 in 2025 at that rate.
Think hes great , to early to say hes coming after jet , once he beats hunter this year if he does than maybe , and to your question his success is not bought , his desire to win , and skills , and hard work and a good listener are why he’s successful.
I just wish people would leave him alone and let him grow, people talk about the hype, but the hype isn't from him, the hype is from everyone putting him on those pedestals, not him, I've never seen him brag or act like he's better, if there is any burn out it will be because of the people putting so much on him, cause he loves to ride and he wants to win, but a person can't take but so much pressure from the world
I'm not ready to believe the hype but a blind man could see how talented he is and how bad he wants it. I appreciate you guys and your tone and number one not being those guys that just start out by hating on a kid like so many do. I can't figure it out. I got Jett lol for sure over everybody even in the 450 class except for maybe Tomac and Chase. But let the kid grow and then we will see. He's not even fully grown yet. He's gonna get taller, bigger and stronger right before our eyes. And what's so cool he's the first rider in the history of this sport where we get to watch a phenom from 65 class to his first Pro SX race LIVE !!! . I mean he still needs platforms to stand on for the start because he cant reach the ground yet with both feet. He just turned 17, a few weeks ago and was on a super mini a little over a year ago. And people who want to hate him are really cutting themselves short on getting to watch and enjoy such a talented kid through his whole career. And for the 250 race he was in, I can promise you he could ride faster than that. He was thinking the entire race to manage his speed, stay on two wheels and finish the race after what happened a week ago. And when he thinks he failed, it kills him because he doesn't want to let anyone down. Once he's able to get comfy to where he's not thinking like that, feeling good and flowing, I see him starting to live up to what so many already see in him. And for me, I think he may be an all time great, it's due to watching him several times since the 65, fall and leaving him dam near last, and then come all the way through the field and win the race. Not to many amateur's we've seen over the last 25 years could do that, even in amateur's races. The ones who could do that, we all know their name. We all watched him do the same thing just a few months back at Gator back. He has not just been winning, he's been dominating since on a 65, gapping the entire field by a mile 99% of the time. For several years now he won every amateur event and I mean every unless he fell down. I saw him barely get beat by a much bigger kid strait up just one time and the kid was right on the guy all the way to the finish. So yea, I'm pretty excited to see what he does. I love the show, I know its new and I just subscribed. I'm sure it will grow
Thanks for the sub! It means a lot! And very well said comment. You can certainly tell that the kid is growing into his body still and maturing on/off the track. Fact of the matter is that he's been riding at a high level since he was virtually a baby. A lot of people want to hate for whatever reason, and thats fine, but its hard to deny 30ish Amateur Championships and not expect that to translate to the Pros...
There is no such thing as bought talent you could put me on the best fastest factory bike in the world and I’m coming in dead last motocross is the toughest sport on the planet if you have it you have it if you don’t you don’t and you still have to put in the work. Deegan is good and will only get better with seat time Everybody talking smack just because the kid comes from money has probably never even tried a local race it’s not easy money has nothing to do with it put the kid on a stock bike and I guarantee you he still whoops ass.
You definitely don’t get that many championships being average amateur or not. He’s got a winning attitude and that’s half of what it takes to be a champion
Especially in the sport that she is in. Its an interesting route for her and without a doubt have quite an impact in that sport. Maybe more so that Hayden? Its possible!
Don't know why people hating on danger boy. Carmichael took 8th his first pro race. People hate just to cause drama. Fuck them danger boy do your thing.
A FUTURE CHAMPION! ARE YOU KIDDING? HOW COULD A AMATUER CHAMPION BECOME A BIG MISTAKE. WAS EVERYONE ASKING THAT SAME QUESTION WHEN CARMICHAEL WENT PRO. DON'T KNOW BUT HEARD SO MANY OF THE FORMER CHAMPIONS, DAVID BAILEY MORE THAN ONCE, SAY HE NEVER SAW THE KID RACE BUT HEARD ALOT ABOUT HIM. I SAID HE WILL WIN FROM THE START BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST I EVER SAW AS AN AMATEUR. ALL THE WAY AND LOOK WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED. THE GOAT. AND DEEGAN HAS COME OUT WITH 2 4TH PLACE OVERALLS WITH A HEAT WIN IN THE 2ND EAST COAST ROUND. HE MAY JUST COME INTO THE NATIONALS WINNING JUST LIKE CARMICHAEL DID. ALL OF YOU DOUBTERS HAVE LOST IT. A ROOKIE CAN WIN HIS FIRST YEAR WHEN HE IS AS GOOD AS DANGERBOY
We agree with you boss! We feel like Haiden will go on to be a multi-time champion in both classes. He has the ability! Not sure if you watched the video, but we said nothing bad about the kid. We are huge fans.
Sounds like that guy is in love with dingleberry boy...mabe he wants to form a daisy chain with the star clan 😂🤣...the hype had turned a lot of people off
No love/hate from us - simply an objective viewpoint based off his amateur winnings and fathers genius marketing tastings. The hype certainly grabbed the sports and fans attention, but we will see within the next 3 races where this kid will land, in my opinion.
You guys have all lost your minds... Deegan is a hard working hard charging rookie... he will be fine... The only losers are in the Facebook comments! Unless we’re talking about the guys who win moms basement class...
Dangerous Boy finish fourth, nearly twenty seconds behind the leader. He was ten seconds behind Smith and Martin when Martin crashed trying to pass Jordan Smith. Vialle passed Deegan after his first crash and pulled away, before making another mistake. Pretty sure Smith passed Hayden twice in that race, as well. Hayden's going to need to pick up his pace to actually run up front with the leaders. But his willingness to fight all the way to the was impressive. Because without that fight, speed will only go so far.
Well said! We believe that he is still finding his legs riding at this level. He doesn't come off as arrogant or against putting the work in to be better. Definitely expecting more to come from this kid.
@@hawkgeoff Sure, I believe that to be true, for the entire field. They all line up hoping to finish the best they can. They all know where their personal edge is. And they all ride right up to that edge. Hayden included. And, it's not like Hayden had the fastest qualifying time. He qualified 6th or 7th. That's pretty much where he ran, until the guys ahead had problems. Don't misunderstand my original comments. He rode well and fought long enough to capitalize on the mistakes of the others. The fight he has in him, earned him a legit 4th place finish. Not his speed. His fight was definitely impressive. The speed can usually be learned, though. If he can find the speed, those other guy will be in for a fight, for sure. We'll see how it goes.
how about he won in Tampa and came in 4 th in main, 3 rd in points. Lmao he is the next big think in this sport. He qualified with the fastest lap time, and was the most consistent rider both two events. 238 gonna be a killa
@@mikecappelletti598 Um...Hunter won two weeks in a row. Hard to be more consistent than that. And is the points leader. He also passed Dangerous Boy twice in the main. Remember, on the first lap, Hunter was 8 seconds behind the boy. At the finish, he was 23 seconds ahead of him. Hayden is doing pretty well. However, he's still losing time each lap. This is the second race that he finished over twenty seconds behind the leader. And he didn't crash in either race. By the way... when you say, he's the future, what exactly does that mean?
You can tell he’s gonna be a champion! He’s the youngest guy out there and finished 4th in his first Pro race. Soon as he gets a little more experience and can consistently start up towards the front, he’s gonna win some races. Can’t wait until he settles in and isn’t as anxious/nervous, I think he’s gonna shine!
Next year will be the real indicator in my opinion
I just enjoy watching his journey because he is a pleasant young man that is hard working, self motivated, and respectful.
Huge work ethic
Haiden is a huge talent, having Brian in his corner is huge. Its very apparent that Haiden puts a lot of pressure on himself to succeed, he puts in the work and those around him at the farm and from Yamaha give him so much encouragement. He is a fast learner, next two meetings will tell a big story on his year ahead.
Couldn’t have said it better!
Nice to hear grown men not hating on a 17 yr old kid chasing his dream
Yeah, it’s pretty pathetic to see what some of these people are saying about a child who isn’t even 18 yet. Haters gon’ hate!
@@motooutsider this kid is a great rider all ready, and he is very humble too, everyone better watch out,cuz he will destroy everyone on the track…
Some of these dudes will choke on the peanut butter cause they used up all there jelly....
His mechanic made a comment at mini o’s that harden hated loosing more than he liked winning, that’s an attitude that champions have, I’ve heard James Stewart and Eli tomic make statements about being tired of loosing after a single race loss, that could be the it factor, that drive mixed with natural talent is a dangerous combination, that drives a champion to do the work that greatness takes.
Couldn't agree more. Its interesting how there is such a divide of support or hate for this kid.
@@motooutsider I absolutely understand and respect a healthy debate of his talents and abilities but I really don’t understand the hate you see online about him, sometimes I wonder if it’s just a dumb response to all the blind love and admiration he gets from the large fan base he has from his online presence.
@@kendodson4134 You hit the nail on the head my friend
@@kendodson4134 I think the hate is part of the reason our sport is so small. Older guys hate on him because he’s on RUclips and they think he’s bought his titles and ride at star. They hate popularity outside of the sport. They want the sport to stay small and niche. Js7 got so much hate as well.
Christian Craig said Haiden is a generational talent.
Couldn’t agree more. Kids corner speed is insane
@The Moto Outsider what we seriously disagree on is predicting a rider being injured.
He also said that about Chase Sexton (words to that effect)... Maybe he knows a little somethig?
Awesome Danger boy I can only imagine the hard work he has put in the 12 plus years for this moment! This young man is so possitive and has such a great head on his shoulders. I wish you all the success in your professional Career and in life youngster! Keep being a possitive roll model for everyone!
The kids got it going on for sure.
Success this early is great to see in his rookie season running the pro series. Oh, and being so young.
Insanely young
There was a kid in the futures race at A2 named "Beaumer", who was running laps about .7 seconds faster than Haiden during the qualifiers, and right in there with the top 5 250 guys. I don't know what happened to him in the futures main, but I bet he will be old enough to turn pro soon. You guys don't see him coming? check the stats.
He landed hard and his bars were either bent or shifted down. Couldn’t finish. I agree, he was putting up good lap times. I think he’s still racing amateur in the B class. Not even A yet. He’ll be there within the next 2 years.
We’re well aware of who he his and what he’s doing. Sadly, we have other full time jobs and can’t make RUclips videos for a living, yet.
Great takes fellas!!!
Thanks! Means a lot 🤘 more on the way!
As they said in the pre race, just go log laps. He was cautious on the starts and lost a little ground. He was railing those turns! He backed out of a couple scrums and avoided the takeouts. He was a solid 6P riding conservatively and was gifted the last to places to 4th when riders went down. Absolutely amazing race for a kid these days given all the hype and criticisms!
The only way for this kid is up. He’ll be a force.
It was no gift, that’s racing people are going to crash, if you don’t, then you earned those positions with consistency and not making the mistakes they did!
One of the first lines in the movie "The Natural: is "If you rely on your talent alone you will fail" Deegan seems to work hard in my opinion!
It’s evident. But he doesn’t have an easy road ahead. Definitely a stacked 250 class! He’s got the talent and the grit. It’ll be fun to watch
Deegan is the goods. He's had the money and coaching, Plenty of other kids come from money that race and they aren't close to him. Haiden has put in serious work. We haven't seen him really dive into being a fitness freak yet either. He is just developing his mature body and getting stronger. Wait until he is early 20's and hopefully Injury free. Plenty of Greats from Ricky, McGrath, James and Eli all say he is a Supreme talent. These aren't guys easily impressed. Imagine if Haiden destroys the 250's for a couple Championships and moves up and Jett is doing what he is expected to do. The sport will have to be raised up a level and garner new attention. These two have all the potential of being the biggest stars Moto has ever had.
Once these guys are on 450s, it’ll be one of the best sports to watch again !
HAIDEN DEEGAN is my fav rider now!
He's got a lot of attention for sure!
3rd in points after 2 races!!!!!!!!!!! 🤘
Crushed it!
He's 17 and beating 27 year olds
with 20 years experiance. FUTURE # 1
This is what generational talent looks like!
The boys going to be the next Danger GOAT!
Truth!
Wasn't a fan at first but you can't ignore raw talent and he's got it. He's proving it now. 💯
Ain’t that the truth 🤘
How can it be hype when he's faster than Jett at 17..he's gonna be an absolute beast when his body and mind are fully developed.
The dinosaur, cold blooded haha! Good stuff my guy.
Call em how we see em here! No disrespect but 🤷♂️
I am 53, don't ride, but have followed this kid deegan since covid. Your question was does money make him good. I live by a philosophy hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard. Based on videos, he works hard and appears to be humble.
It’s undeniable too! Thanks for watching! 🤘
4th. Numbers don't lie. The sky is the limit. There are a lot of uncontrollable factors in racing, but for all that IS in his control, he's going to smash it.
Well said. With access to the best of the best, like every other rider, he's expected to perform at the top.
@@motooutsider True. But, let's be honest. Expectations do nothing to help the rider but rather hurt him. It's all about heart. No matter the talent or team, if a rider doesn't have the heart, it's all for nothing. He's shown to have a heart comparable to a boxer with a good chin. He came back from all that criticism and hatred THE NEXT WEEK after the futures race and did this...c'mon. At 17. That's grown man, purple heart heart. Training, trainers, money, family, equipment, can only get you so far. He has what it takes to get himself the rest of the way...and that's just rare.
@@SucceedbyForce FACTS! couldn't agree more.
Impressive stat was his lap time over the weekend. Fastest to the slowest lap was 2 second! You can tell he has put in the hard work. Money doesn’t buy that
Kid rips - no doubt about it
He's the real deal in my mind, but this moto. The question always is, "it's not if you'll get hurt, it's when and how bad". This could change overnight with a single injury. One thing is different with Haiden, he doesn't get tired, no arm pump, this dude doesn't even sweat at the end of a moto. Let's give him a chance to become an adult. The kid is seventeen and still growing. Let's sit back and enjoy watching how good he can become.
Watching his growth will be fantastic. Especially when you look back on his 250 career.
The kid is putting the work in and it shows. he stays healthy look out fellas.
Truth!
Yes, he’s the real deal. I think Brian will focus on keeping him successful. He is very talented. I believe the key will be staying healthy. There are many other fast riders out there that have gotten hurt over and over and it’s jeopardizing their career. Stay healthy and consistent. Case in point. Dungey wasn’t always the fastest but he was consistent and stayed healthy.
Correct - and dungey was always at the front of the pack too. Nothing flashy, just consistent.
2024 Deegan wins championship. Kids a work horse. Putting in those hours shows, he’s super comfortable out there. Speeds getting faster and faster. By the end of this season deegan wins 2 races.
This season is the trial run. NEXT season will be the test.
@@motooutsider Maybe P 8-10. At 4th I believe he’s gonna come out slinging it. Kid adapts so well it’s amazing.
Haiden is a bad ass plain and simple and he gonna show everyone watch and see
You may be right!
Deegan champ he proved it tonight
He’s done awesome so far!
He the real deal. He work hard to where he at
That’s facts
Well the hype i real as a follower of SX since 78 Haiden is the real thing he will be a multiple time champ in the 250 class! Braswell had a bad day he will be fine! And for Haiden money did not buy him skills and hard work! He has hardly had any injury! He is only going to get better!!
And notice I said 250! Because he will not be a champion in the 450 class for a long time due to Jett and a few more!! Great show guys!! Keep it up they will come!! And your spot on about the family! But as always you will always have your haters!! And Haiden is mature beyond his years! Haiden could podium by the end of the year! And I agree he will be above the rest by the end of the year! His fitness a is above all the other rookies Chance said he was spent by the 4th lap!! Move up to the 450 when he maxis out on points!! He has Ludacris corner speed!! REAL REAL REAL!!
Well said, and thank you! Although he just hopped on a 250, we are very eager to see this kid hop on a 450 in the premier class!
@@motooutsider yep just think he has only been on a 250 around 15 months!! And as ror the 450 hell he can ride one of them to but I bet he does not race that class for 4 to 5 years or points out or what ever there new rules are I know they changed it! One thing about that breaking the record for championships now in the 250s will never get done since you can have so many!
@@slayer6936 He'll certainly grow in the 250 class the most for sure.
i think tom vialle was impressive in his sx debut. i think he will outshine the rest of the newcomers throughout the 250e season
Going to be an interesting rest of the East coast for sure. I think next year will be a much more fair shake.
As a Deegan, Bennick, Hymas fan I think Vialle is two World championships ahead of all... I look for him to start coming after Hunter this weekend...
TV 128 is learning so quickly since he was a kid ... you aren't at the end of your surprises !!
Hugs from France !! 👍😎🇫🇷🏁
Champion 💯
He’s going to make a run at it for sure!
He's going to break all the records 🤯 I've been saying this for a few years 🤑🥳💯
It’s certainly possible Randy!
Danger boy is going to be great, dam he's only 17 and still got 4 that's pretty dam good for his first race
Agreed! Looking forward to his Tampa results!
Your looking at a KID, when that race was over when his parents got to his truck he was like a kid that just scored a touch down in school he has not even shown an inkling of what kind of talent thats comin in next few years his corner speed was faster than antbody on a bike period go to johnny hoppers channel and look at the corner speed its incredible i think the young man has bought into going out there and getting seat time no matter where he finishes and i think everyone should drop the expectations a little and allow him to do what carmichael said what james stewart said and his dad “GO OUT THERE AND LEARN YOUR RACECRAFT DONT WORRY ABOUT THE RACE FINISH” just my opinion 🤘🤘
He’s going to learn for sure. I bet he’ll do quite well in the coming races.
@@motooutsider i really think if he stays healthy were gonna get to see something special i started watching him on a 50 because i was deegan fan from way back and saw right off the start the boy has a natural talent but got the brain to go with it..hudson can do things most grown ups cant but dont have that killer instinct that haiden has and i firmly believe a person has to want it cause theyve still gotta line up and run the whoops and that stuff is way bigger in real time than what you see on tv so glad to finally see somebody on here not bashing the boy and talking positive 👍👍
The hype is definitely real for haiden deegan I see him as a champion soon
Great heat win tonight! Looking forward to the main
2025 250 SX & MX Champ! Book it!
It’s possible!
If you want to if haiden has talent or if it's just money, all you need to do is look at his little brother, same money, same coach none of the grit.
To quote duff " I asked to be with haiden because I can see how much talent the kids got, he is going to be a champion and I want to be along for the ride when he does".
Definitely a solid moto family 💪
Vialle will podium this year for sure he is proper quick maybe his race fitness is lacking slightly. As for Deegan everyone needs to just chill a little, he is no where near Jett Lawrence's level yet will he ever get there yet to be seen. Agree that this season will be learning season I don't see him as a podium rider this year, the raw data shows he is not quick enough at this stage of his career, his consistency is good but can he go that next step and drop that extra second a lap to be up with top guys and maintain that consistency that's going to be the litmus test. At the moment the hype is just hype until he can run consistently the same lap times as Lawrance, Anstie, Smith, Thrasher even Vialle, I also think if it was a fully fit east coast competition his results would be different aswell and he would be on the edge of the top 10, which is still impressive. When guys like Shimoda come back into the picture he drops a spot, if Hammaker and Swoll make it back this year he drops another 2 spots. That's just the reality of his speed right now, before everyone says its a hate on Deegan im just looking at the here and now data not his potential and hype. Out of the small sample size now being 2 races he is still over a second a lap slower than the top riders what gets him the 4th places is his consistency and that is a credit to him, simply put he's stayed on the bike while others have fallen around him.
Definitely looking forward to this weekend! Thank you for your in depth analysis 💪
What a bad video title !!!???????
From here in France it's incredible to see how many people said bad things about him!!
Like TM128 , HD238 is the new champion generation 🤩
Go on boys !!!!
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There’s a lot of discussion on this topic! But we both think he’ll do great things!
@@motooutsider you know ...we're seeing the beginning of a great champion....HD 238!! Yesterday in Tampa we got the confirmation 👍😎🇫🇷🏁
I love all the debates by non professional riders. Everybody who's opinion actually matters is that he is gonna be a multi time champ! The kid is only sixteen and only gonna get better! And I'm tired of hearing about the money, poor people dont race, some may have more than others but all have some money.
Ain’t that the truth.
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@@Shawn-ts4jw oh sorry, big difference!
Who are these guys? Can anybody look at some numbers and put on a show with little to no historical knowledge or riding/racing experience?
Do people do this kind of stuff to make some money from YT because they can't find a job after college? Do these guys know what side of the bike the brakes are on? "Best Debut you ever saw!!"? Smith, Hannah, Lechien, Bradshaw, McGrath, RC, James, Alessi, Villapoto, and Rick Mellon were all guys who had a more impressive debut, (Haiden is doing great though),---but you guys don't know who I am taking about.
You forgot Bubba, Fonseca, Dungey, Kinard and AC. All won debut except Bubba 2nd.
Funny how you chose to comment on this same video 3 separate times. You must be pretty upset! I’ll answer some of your questions below to appease you:
1.) if you want to know who we are, go
Back to our first video which explains all of that. Chances are, you haven’t - but it’s a great place to start.
2.) you can put on a show with little to know knowledge on any topic. Sounds like what RUclips was meant for! Even though we analyze stats, results, context before each episode.
3.) Both of us have full time careers which far exceeds the income we get from doing this. Fun fact: we make $0 from RUclips. We do this because we love the sport and it’s fun to rile up people like you who appear to be upset at everything.
4.) pretty sure there are no brakes on a bike - but what do I know? Had to change my headlight fluid last night though!
Have a good day man! Try not to be so angry next time 🤘
Why cant people see true talent since he put a leg over the first bike! Hayden is a beast and will be in tomacs league no doubt. The only thing that can stop that is an injury
Going to be super fun to watch
I believe the hype is real I also believe there's an extra amount of hype that are not asking for but receiving anyway and that's not their fault his dad's a smart guy and it's helped manager sister and she's done pretty well I do believe her little brother is more talented in his field and I think he's going to be a great racer and definitely bring more fans to the sport he's gotten me back interested I'm from the south and work footballguys but I'll football guys want to race dirt bikes LOL
His father is a genius marketer which naturally brings a lot of attention to anyone with the Deegan name. Hence why a majority of people cant understand why he's all over the Moto Media. But with that hype comes expectation to perform. Its go-time for this kid.
@@motooutsider bro just really appreciating the fair commentary people like cook c-mob and Johnny f and Harper who jumped on the story about the whole by claiming incident and then has Brian get a little pissed at them now they're holding grudges really just talkin bad about a sixteen-year-old kid doesn't seem fair to him he puts into work and he super fast
@@motooutsider sorry I do talk-to-text I drive a trash truck all day so I don't have time to type it all out LOL you might have to read between the lines
Axel and his dad said many times there no real money is motocross or super cross you have to be top 1 or 2 .......and that what they do now makes them 10x more $$$ with alot less headache
I can absolutely see that. Plus, I dont think SX/MX is even Axels style. But the kid is stupid fast on any track he shows up to. But racing is too corporate for that kid. Plus, RUclipss probably way more fun for the dude!
Danger boy has the talent, i think he can be a champion this season.🔥🔥🔥
Bold statement my friend! But its possible! Really excited to see what he does in the next 2/3 races.
@@motooutsider as long as no mistakes he can be. Ive been watching his race since he was a little danger boy, damn he liked to win every race and now he is 100% pro rider so excited to see him at podium🔥
I am a big fan but I don't think he has the speed yet to run with hunter Lawrence, but what he did was crazy I guessed the best he would finish was 5th he stayed out of trouble and rode a clean race . Hopefully after a few races I would love to see him make the podium.
He was over 20 seconds behind the leaders, his lap time was quite a bit off hunters as well, the field is a bit depleted and several guys gave haiden position, solid ride for the rookie, but champion this year idk. I don’t think the team wants that either, he’d have to go 450 in 2025 at that rate.
Think hes great , to early to say hes coming after jet , once he beats hunter this year if he does than maybe , and to your question his success is not bought , his desire to win , and skills , and hard work and a good listener are why he’s successful.
Without a doubt he’ll be a contender
I just wish people would leave him alone and let him grow, people talk about the hype, but the hype isn't from him, the hype is from everyone putting him on those pedestals, not him, I've never seen him brag or act like he's better, if there is any burn out it will be because of the people putting so much on him, cause he loves to ride and he wants to win, but a person can't take but so much pressure from the world
He's got a lot of eyes on him. We want nothing more than him to succeed!
This aged well
You can bet they are training him to win he also shut all the haters up
He certainly has a lot of weight on his shoulders. Im sure his dad is in his ear too...
I'm not ready to believe the hype but a blind man could see how talented he is and how bad he wants it. I appreciate you guys and your tone and number one not being those guys that just start out by hating on a kid like so many do. I can't figure it out. I got Jett lol for sure over everybody even in the 450 class except for maybe Tomac and Chase. But let the kid grow and then we will see. He's not even fully grown yet. He's gonna get taller, bigger and stronger right before our eyes. And what's so cool he's the first rider in the history of this sport where we get to watch a phenom from 65 class to his first Pro SX race LIVE !!! . I mean he still needs platforms to stand on for the start because he cant reach the ground yet with both feet. He just turned 17, a few weeks ago and was on a super mini a little over a year ago. And people who want to hate him are really cutting themselves short on getting to watch and enjoy such a talented kid through his whole career. And for the 250 race he was in, I can promise you he could ride faster than that. He was thinking the entire race to manage his speed, stay on two wheels and finish the race after what happened a week ago. And when he thinks he failed, it kills him because he doesn't want to let anyone down. Once he's able to get comfy to where he's not thinking like that, feeling good and flowing, I see him starting to live up to what so many already see in him. And for me, I think he may be an all time great, it's due to watching him several times since the 65, fall and leaving him dam near last, and then come all the way through the field and win the race. Not to many amateur's we've seen over the last 25 years could do that, even in amateur's races. The ones who could do that, we all know their name. We all watched him do the same thing just a few months back at Gator back. He has not just been winning, he's been dominating since on a 65, gapping the entire field by a mile 99% of the time. For several years now he won every amateur event and I mean every unless he fell down. I saw him barely get beat by a much bigger kid strait up just one time and the kid was right on the guy all the way to the finish. So yea, I'm pretty excited to see what he does. I love the show, I know its new and I just subscribed. I'm sure it will grow
Thanks for the sub! It means a lot! And very well said comment. You can certainly tell that the kid is growing into his body still and maturing on/off the track. Fact of the matter is that he's been riding at a high level since he was virtually a baby. A lot of people want to hate for whatever reason, and thats fine, but its hard to deny 30ish Amateur Championships and not expect that to translate to the Pros...
There is no such thing as bought talent you could put me on the best fastest factory bike in the world and I’m coming in dead last motocross is the toughest sport on the planet if you have it you have it if you don’t you don’t and you still have to put in the work. Deegan is good and will only get better with seat time Everybody talking smack just because the kid comes from money has probably never even tried a local race it’s not easy money has nothing to do with it put the kid on a stock bike and I guarantee you he still whoops ass.
The kids corner speed is nuts. Stock bike or factory, he’ll whoop ass.
Ur not mentioning talen Hawkins
We did in later videos! Kids ripping
Yes all rookies doing really well
He was faster than prior champs
He’s up there for sure. The kid moves!
All these haters wouldn't be able to handle the EXTRA pressure via utube and a name like degan brings
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You definitely don’t get that many championships being average amateur or not. He’s got a winning attitude and that’s half of what it takes to be a champion
Kid has a lot of heart too
I agree Hailie has something in her Genes!
Especially in the sport that she is in. Its an interesting route for her and without a doubt have quite an impact in that sport. Maybe more so that Hayden? Its possible!
Don't know why people hating on danger boy. Carmichael took 8th his first pro race. People hate just to cause drama. Fuck them danger boy do your thing.
Yepp - and RC is one of the goats. This kid will probably join them.
Haiden will win before the season is out.
Agreed!
A FUTURE CHAMPION! ARE YOU KIDDING? HOW COULD A AMATUER CHAMPION BECOME A BIG MISTAKE. WAS EVERYONE ASKING THAT SAME QUESTION WHEN CARMICHAEL WENT PRO. DON'T KNOW BUT HEARD SO MANY OF THE FORMER CHAMPIONS, DAVID BAILEY MORE THAN ONCE, SAY HE NEVER SAW THE KID RACE BUT HEARD ALOT ABOUT HIM. I SAID HE WILL WIN FROM THE START BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST I EVER SAW AS AN AMATEUR. ALL THE WAY AND LOOK WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED. THE GOAT. AND DEEGAN HAS COME OUT WITH 2 4TH PLACE OVERALLS WITH A HEAT WIN IN THE 2ND EAST COAST ROUND. HE MAY JUST COME INTO THE NATIONALS WINNING JUST LIKE CARMICHAEL DID. ALL OF YOU DOUBTERS HAVE LOST IT. A ROOKIE CAN WIN HIS FIRST YEAR WHEN HE IS AS GOOD AS DANGERBOY
We agree with you boss! We feel like Haiden will go on to be a multi-time champion in both classes. He has the ability! Not sure if you watched the video, but we said nothing bad about the kid. We are huge fans.
yall are leaving out hymas and hawkins in this rookie conversation...and how they do in the season
In the next few videos coming up! Didn’t want to make this video too long. Subscribe and check back soon 🤘
Sounds like that guy is in love with dingleberry boy...mabe he wants to form a daisy chain with the star clan 😂🤣...the hype had turned a lot of people off
Dude, you are the biggest hater. You are in everybody's comment section hating on the kid.
No love/hate from us - simply an objective viewpoint based off his amateur winnings and fathers genius marketing tastings. The hype certainly grabbed the sports and fans attention, but we will see within the next 3 races where this kid will land, in my opinion.
Two 4th place finishes: 3rd in points
Dude backs it up!
Kids quick. It’s undeniable. Simple.
Easy.
Yea the hype is real he just got fourth in a pro supercross are u kidding me
Agreed! Definitely not easy to ride at this level.
He should lower his bike a bit.
You guys have all lost your minds... Deegan is a hard working hard charging rookie... he will be fine... The only losers are in the Facebook comments! Unless we’re talking about the guys who win moms basement class...
Yeah there’s a lot of grown men upset at a child 😂
You guys are ignorant of facts! All of our top pro's as rookies Won races and Championships! Younger than Haiden!
Thanks for the knowledge Lizzy!
GOD I can't stand haters
They make ya laugh sometimes!
Dangerous Boy finish fourth, nearly twenty seconds behind the leader. He was ten seconds behind Smith and Martin when Martin crashed trying to pass Jordan Smith. Vialle passed Deegan after his first crash and pulled away, before making another mistake. Pretty sure Smith passed Hayden twice in that race, as well. Hayden's going to need to pick up his pace to actually run up front with the leaders. But his willingness to fight all the way to the was impressive. Because without that fight, speed will only go so far.
Well said! We believe that he is still finding his legs riding at this level. He doesn't come off as arrogant or against putting the work in to be better. Definitely expecting more to come from this kid.
So you don't believe that their goal for the race was to stay up and complete laps?
@@hawkgeoff Sure, I believe that to be true, for the entire field. They all line up hoping to finish the best they can. They all know where their personal edge is. And they all ride right up to that edge. Hayden included. And, it's not like Hayden had the fastest qualifying time. He qualified 6th or 7th. That's pretty much where he ran, until the guys ahead had problems. Don't misunderstand my original comments. He rode well and fought long enough to capitalize on the mistakes of the others. The fight he has in him, earned him a legit 4th place finish. Not his speed. His fight was definitely impressive. The speed can usually be learned, though. If he can find the speed, those other guy will be in for a fight, for sure. We'll see how it goes.
how about he won in Tampa and came in 4 th in main, 3 rd in points. Lmao he is the next big think in this sport. He qualified with the fastest lap time, and was the most consistent rider both two events. 238 gonna be a killa
@@mikecappelletti598 Um...Hunter won two weeks in a row. Hard to be more consistent than that. And is the points leader. He also passed Dangerous Boy twice in the main. Remember, on the first lap, Hunter was 8 seconds behind the boy. At the finish, he was 23 seconds ahead of him. Hayden is doing pretty well. However, he's still losing time each lap. This is the second race that he finished over twenty seconds behind the leader. And he didn't crash in either race.
By the way... when you say, he's the future, what exactly does that mean?
Nah, he’ll be fine.
Absolutely! Kids got talent
If you're Mad your jealous
Truth
I like the black rifle coffee company hat. Down with the donkey
All shows done under the influence of caffeine 🤘
Don’t believe the hype about BRCC. They bowed down just like every corporation during the coof.
@@justwatching6186 crazy times that we hopefully never have to deal with again…
LOL Huck is going to be a mess You watch
Crazy main event 😮💨
U can not buy what deegan has got he works gus arse off every day
True!
"Jett needs to watch out" bahahahahahahahahahahaha. Nah
Never know! Jett will undoubtedly become a multi-class, multi-time champion. But watching these two battle in the future will be GREAT racing.
Everybody and their mom have a motor cross/Supercross show nowadays?
Don't think so - neither of our moms have a Motocross* show. Hopefully ours is good enough for ya though!
Huge mistake
Really? How so?
He will be champion
Deegan wins championship in 2024
Whoever thinks he is not going to be a champion one day. Probably don't even know about motocross let alone even rode abike
It’s possible!