I would like to propose an alternative theory as to why they lost: If you watch it you’ll see they start to really die when taking the hill. My theory is that the elites rushed up and the marines spread out to all sides meaning the elites got shot from three angels without cover from multiple enemies and they never arrived in a full force and so you had small groups of two or three against 5-10 marines making it very easy to wipe out the marines.
These aren’t Marines, they are Army troopers. Marines have brown and black uniforms with the Military Police helmet and were only seen at the end campaign on the mission, “Pillar of Autumn”.
Thanks for the info 👍 I wrote it based on forge menu names, haven't finished campaign yet, im quite new to the Halo universe. I hope they will bring official AI support to forge menu.
@@anoblefish411 What do you mean? The elites were always smart my guy. The dumbass elites are in halo 4 and 5 because they were lazy, but elites from 1,2,3, and reach are very smart and skilled.
Or if they were on level ground so the elites didn't take a bunch of enfilade fire. Though tbf there's a good chance the army troopers would win anyways; hitscan weapons, more health, smaller target.
Marines or in this case army soldiers Do better in extended periods of combat, and farther range engagement, while the elites definitely dominate in melee combat
I was surprised too, When i saw all the Elites packed in one place i though okay marines are done, but no, i guess it was because they had the "high ground" :)
Are you sure about that? Ingame is different from what it is in the books. Covies were were kicking the UNSCs ass and if not for the huge boost from S2s, reverse engineering, and smart AIs, UNSC would've been finished.
Kind of the real difference is that in the books one or two shots from a plasma rifle would have killed a marine instantly they cant have that in the game because the game would be near impossible to survive let alone beat
@@UnThralls lets be honest here the master chief was the main reason humanity won that and the whole covnant civil war but the master chief literally had fate on his side you cant beat fate no matter what
These firefights actually showcase how cumbersome and unwieldy the Covenant plasma rifle is. The UNSC's MA40 not only has a higher rate of fire, thus making it better at suppression, but it appears to have overall superior accuracy.
Irc in lore the UNSC rifle outranges the plasma rifle and is more accurate. Plasma Rifle though does just so much damage it makes up for all it's other weaknesses.
@@Cyberbro665 I mean, plasma literally just destroys your insides. Having a slower firerate is pretty fair, though it doesn't make too much sense for the shots themselves to be that slow. I'd expect what is basically energy to move faster, y'know?
Marines/odsts need to be represented as capable soldiers. Putting gameplay and lore aside, in reality, there are many cases of real-life marines being 6 foot 4, muscled, killing machines. I don't see why they wouldn't be 500 years in the future. At range, the shield and plasma weapon are really the only things the elites have going for them. Underneath the armour it's really just a big space lizard, no less vulnerable to bullets than any human. Once their shield's dropped, it wouldn't take much to put them down. Again, speaking outside of lore and gameplay.
@@Bmuenks31 I get that almost 2 MA5D rounds could theoretically be enough to break a Zealot's shields, but seriously, *wound him?* If it wasn't a leg, near-neck or below-arm hit, I simply refuse to believe that a marine legitimately managed to wound a Zealot using just 2 MA5D rounds.
Forge mod alone is really worth it, its really fun. I didn't even play multiplayer yet, because i modded the game and multi is disabled but i can imagine it must be crazy fun. With all the vehicles, ships, turrets, i would say it is a must have, specially if you never played a halo game before like me
@@philly996 to be honest i haven't started to singleplayer story yet. i only played forge and recorded some battles, which is pretty cool and easy to do in this game.
@@Bazzable yes that is true but elites would just be too much for the UNSC troops in this battle it was all elites vs all army troopers and reminder elites are about as powerful as a Spartan 2 or 3 in meionur armor it’s just unfair
@@Bazzable in the books though one plasma bolt hit and you are freaking done. Eats right through anything not shielded. The games nerf the covenant plasma guns by 1000%
I would do heroic as I feel it the most realistic the elites would be stronger than the humans but both would be decently effective in combat if it was legendary the army troopers would die in mear moments after the battle had started
@@Chameleon1616 The UNSC guns are rapid sucession assault weapons with almost no recoil and perfectly balance, a shotgun shell turns an elite chest with full charge in a mashed grill.
@@kalash9467 and cause a foot wide hole in a human. Humans were just better than the covenant on the ground in my Opinion. However in space humans are just sad
I like the AI of the Troopers on Reach. In the thirteen years I've been playing the game, I've had three distinct instances in which i had a single trooper take out multiple elites and brutes. Granted, I did a good chunk of the work for two of them by taking the shields down only to get caught up in a reload, but it was still nice to see them jump in and finish the job. The third guy was a warthog gunner that destroyed two wraiths (two brutes each) and a ghost on Exodus when you have to arm the missile batteries.
It has been a while since I made this video but since this recorded on theatre, while I was first playing I was probably placing marines on the hill and one of them flew away somehow 😀
Its crazy to watch the computer just duke it out lol zero human emotional plays. Interesting video man. Liked and subbed, I found your video on reddit BTW. I don’t do Halo videos videos but I do COD, check my channel out when you get the chance and keep dropping these fire videos 💯🔥
Thanks a lot, i subscribed as soon as i entered your channel man, you have some sick kills and nice editing, i liked the amazon.exe :) gotta watch back all the videos now.
1:38 elite: ha take that!
elite: wait im the last one??
I would like to propose an alternative theory as to why they lost:
If you watch it you’ll see they start to really die when taking the hill. My theory is that the elites rushed up and the marines spread out to all sides meaning the elites got shot from three angels without cover from multiple enemies and they never arrived in a full force and so you had small groups of two or three against 5-10 marines making it very easy to wipe out the marines.
These aren’t Marines, they are Army troopers. Marines have brown and black uniforms with the Military Police helmet and were only seen at the end campaign on the mission, “Pillar of Autumn”.
Thanks for the info 👍 I wrote it based on forge menu names, haven't finished campaign yet, im quite new to the Halo universe. I hope they will bring official AI support to forge menu.
Yeah no problem man. I noticed in campaign that the troopers are incorrectly designated as Marines and it bugs me.
@@immoraiii8924 I’m halo lore the unsc army actually won most ground battles
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@@bacon9646 *with the assistance of Spartans.
Now imagine if the Marines actually took cover
Imagine this was on legendary or heroic
And imagine if they didn't individually suicide-rush the covenant at random times
imagine the elite used their brain
@@anoblefish411 What do you mean? The elites were always smart my guy. The dumbass elites are in halo 4 and 5 because they were lazy, but elites from 1,2,3, and reach are very smart and skilled.
Or if they were on level ground so the elites didn't take a bunch of enfilade fire. Though tbf there's a good chance the army troopers would win anyways; hitscan weapons, more health, smaller target.
Marines or in this case army soldiers Do better in extended periods of combat, and farther range engagement, while the elites definitely dominate in melee combat
Man the Marines surprisingly did well, they won. The Covies must've gotten plot armor in the lore.
I was surprised too, When i saw all the Elites packed in one place i though okay marines are done, but no, i guess it was because they had the "high ground" :)
Are you sure about that? Ingame is different from what it is in the books.
Covies were were kicking the UNSCs ass and if not for the huge boost from S2s, reverse engineering, and smart AIs, UNSC would've been finished.
@@UnThralls What did he JUST say about there being plot armor in lore?
Kind of the real difference is that in the books one or two shots from a plasma rifle would have killed a marine instantly they cant have that in the game because the game would be near impossible to survive let alone beat
@@UnThralls lets be honest here the master chief was the main reason humanity won that and the whole covnant civil war but the master chief literally had fate on his side you cant beat fate no matter what
lol that elite hiding in the corner (right side of screen )at 1:18 , it looks like he's taking a dump lol
0:14 there is 1 imposter among us
They marine know how to stay together. That's why they won
I love the design of these marines army troopers of reach.
people forget it was the large air armada that did the most killing. the unsc just did not have anything big enough to take them down at the time.
Yeah even cinematics show that even without Spartans, they can win through grit, will and a whole lot of bullets.
Shotguns as well
These firefights actually showcase how cumbersome and unwieldy the Covenant plasma rifle is. The UNSC's MA40 not only has a higher rate of fire, thus making it better at suppression, but it appears to have overall superior accuracy.
I mean tbf the elite AI doesn’t shoot the rifle at its full fire rate and plasma weaponry in game is not as lethal as it is in lore books.
@@thelouster5815 on legendary they shoot fast bursts tho
Irc in lore the UNSC rifle outranges the plasma rifle and is more accurate. Plasma Rifle though does just so much damage it makes up for all it's other weaknesses.
@@Cyberbro665 I mean, plasma literally just destroys your insides. Having a slower firerate is pretty fair, though it doesn't make too much sense for the shots themselves to be that slow. I'd expect what is basically energy to move faster, y'know?
This fight would have been SO bloodg with Halo Combat Evolved blood effects
Marines/odsts need to be represented as capable soldiers. Putting gameplay and lore aside, in reality, there are many cases of real-life marines being 6 foot 4, muscled, killing machines. I don't see why they wouldn't be 500 years in the future. At range, the shield and plasma weapon are really the only things the elites have going for them. Underneath the armour it's really just a big space lizard, no less vulnerable to bullets than any human. Once their shield's dropped, it wouldn't take much to put them down. Again, speaking outside of lore and gameplay.
If you want to get really technical the elites do wear far more advanced armor and are strong enough to rip any human that isn’t a Spartan in half.
1 marine with 2 rounds penetrated a Zealot Sangheilis shields and wounded him
The book is Halo The Cole Protocol
@@Bmuenks31 I get that almost 2 MA5D rounds could theoretically be enough to break a Zealot's shields, but seriously, *wound him?* If it wasn't a leg, near-neck or below-arm hit, I simply refuse to believe that a marine legitimately managed to wound a Zealot using just 2 MA5D rounds.
@@familyneves9777 i don't remember it now, but at the time of the comment i had just read the book and I recalled this happening so, idk man
0:16
Talk about advance recon
You could make an RTS title with this kind of AI!
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Me: My time has come.
Also, nice one.
Haha thanks man :)
@@NPCUniverse BTW, is the MCC worth it? I'm thinking a lot about it...
Forge mod alone is really worth it, its really fun. I didn't even play multiplayer yet, because i modded the game and multi is disabled but i can imagine it must be crazy fun. With all the vehicles, ships, turrets, i would say it is a must have, specially if you never played a halo game before like me
@@NPCUniverse I have. Lots of times. Only Halo ce and custom edition.
Although I'm here for the single.
@@philly996 to be honest i haven't started to singleplayer story yet. i only played forge and recorded some battles, which is pretty cool and easy to do in this game.
Humans having the high ground every time is no small advantage.
In lore these troopers wouldve been wipe out in seconds...
Well I’m the second round the elite would have a change of losing because the two Spartans
No actually the unsc won most ground battles it's just covies dominated in space
@@Bazzable yes that is true but elites would just be too much for the UNSC troops in this battle it was all elites vs all army troopers and reminder elites are about as powerful as a Spartan 2 or 3 in meionur armor it’s just unfair
@@jacobaurelius5361 the books you dingus not the games
@@Bazzable in the books though one plasma bolt hit and you are freaking done. Eats right through anything not shielded. The games nerf the covenant plasma guns by 1000%
Awesome video man keep on grinding
Thanks a lot man :)
You should put the difficulty to legendary. Normal mode obvs the elites will lose.
I would do heroic as I feel it the most realistic the elites would be stronger than the humans but both would be decently effective in combat if it was legendary the army troopers would die in mear moments after the battle had started
@@anidiot2284 yea. Heroic was always the way halo was meant to be played.....and that’s the in game description.
Why can't Halo Wars games be like this?
Why did the marines do better than the spartans?? 🤣
Another awesome vid! Upvote this shit people. Let’s get this mans channel rocken
Thanks a lot man! I'm glad u guys are enjoying the videos, it motivates me to make more of them :)
In lore Marines would die in 2-3 shots by plasma it would literally melt them
Makes me wonder what automatic weapons do to grunt formations in lore.
@@Chameleon1616 The UNSC guns are rapid sucession assault weapons with almost no recoil and perfectly balance, a shotgun shell turns an elite chest with full charge in a mashed grill.
@@kalash9467 and a burst from a ma5B could saw clean through them
@@Sir_Guardus yeah, in the books is common that a single rifle take out dozens of grunts in mass with no effort,
@@kalash9467 and cause a foot wide hole in a human. Humans were just better than the covenant on the ground in my Opinion. However in space humans are just sad
Came from ur reddit post and liked and subbed
Thanks a lot man, the music in your last video is sick, and the kills as well 👌
I like the AI of the Troopers on Reach. In the thirteen years I've been playing the game, I've had three distinct instances in which i had a single trooper take out multiple elites and brutes. Granted, I did a good chunk of the work for two of them by taking the shields down only to get caught up in a reload, but it was still nice to see them jump in and finish the job. The third guy was a warthog gunner that destroyed two wraiths (two brutes each) and a ghost on Exodus when you have to arm the missile batteries.
Love watching Halo ai battles, I am uploading ai battles of Garry's Mod, it is such a fun game.
Wesker you're back
I love HALO! great video
Thanks man, im glad you liked it :)
Omg how do you make these battles
Halo reach will always be my number one halo game! Period ❤️💯
Throw in a couple needler's and it would have changed completely vs the high ground
1:10 DO A FLIP
3:29 OOF
Did you keep the damage de-buffs for the troopers
that one guy at the begging lol
Actually, the "Marines" are really called "Troopers" in REACH. Nice battle, though.
Now do this with legendary ai and the marines all die in 5 seconds
This is merely because the humans had the high ground
does this mod still work?
You should try with fear series, onimusa 3, i hope for darksider angel vs demon npc man
Thanks a lot for the suggestions I will check them out ✌️
Oh hey theres me at the time when i was a minor rank
The skys are yours now
@@subzerolv1008 youre correct
Nacht and kino flashbacks
Marines! Oorah!
Solid.
where did that marine come from in the beginning?
It has been a while since I made this video but since this recorded on theatre, while I was first playing I was probably placing marines on the hill and one of them flew away somehow 😀
@@NPCUniverse magic marine?
I’m pretty sure most of these guys are actually army
Do a sky battle in halo infinite
Go marines army troopers!!! Gooooo 💪💙
Como hacen estos videos?
Cool
how you do this all spawn??????
Mods
Marines have the high ground
These were army troopers
Its crazy to watch the computer just duke it out lol zero human emotional plays. Interesting video man. Liked and subbed, I found your video on reddit BTW. I don’t do Halo videos videos but I do COD, check my channel out when you get the chance and keep dropping these fire videos 💯🔥
Thanks a lot, i subscribed as soon as i entered your channel man, you have some sick kills and nice editing, i liked the amazon.exe :) gotta watch back all the videos now.
I think halo 3 and odst has the best marines
How did you spawn AI
You can find the mod link i used to spawn AI in description.
I swear the Human AI in Reach was some of the worst in the series
Shoulda done it on legendary
Just to clarify these are army troopers not marines