I consider Hwang Kee to be the founder of Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do and the way its practiced by organizations like the World Tang Soo Do Association and Chuck Norris etc. Also I see no reason to doubt Hwang Kee's honesty about training under someone in China. I've read about his life and that account makes perfect sense. About 40% of Tang Soo Do/Soo Bahk Do consist of Kung Fu and the rest mainly consist of ancient Korean Subak and Taekkyon elements as well as some Shotokan Karate though not to the same degree as the ancient korean fighting styles.
Hwang Kee had Chinese style movements in his forms. Proof of his Chinese influence. In the day, our school practiced those movements. We thought they were from my instructor's Chinese training, but when I saw Hwang Kee's son doing the same movements..................They could have been very old Korean style movements years before the name Korea was used..
Great video. Thanks for breaking that down. I have a question. Have you heard of Kong Soo Do? It seems to be very similar to Tang Soo Do. Still coming from Shotokan in Japan.
Gichin Funakoshi while he brought Okinawa karate to Japan , intended to make karate a Japanese style , he changed in a word ,,karate ,, first hieroglyph , which mean , chineese , to the another hieroglyph with same pronounce which means ,,empty, , so instead chineese hand word ,,karate,, became meaning ,empty hand , so on Korean pronunciation word karate as chineese hand meaning will be pronounced like tang soo do , as ,empty hand ,, will be pronounced like kong soo do . The same way Japanese word aikido on Korean will be pronounced like hapkido , aiki ju-jitsu like hapki- yusul , Budo like Mudo
Thank you so much for the information, it is quite hard to find the history of Tang Soo do and its relationship with Karate and Taekwondo in the mist of all the misinformation and propaganda out there!
Won Kukk Lee founded the Poomsae forms that modern WT Taekwondo practioners use. He is really the founder of Taekwondo. So his version of Tang Soo Do was different from the Moo Duk Kwan style that Tang Soo Do today follows.
What is your point? It's somewhat controversial, or it's not really controversial? The only people who question the founding of Tang Soo Do are the ones who belong to some fly-by-night association who are trying to justify their existence. Politics and petty jealousies have more to do with questioning the founding of Tang Soo Do.
Not true about the name . The original name of karate in Okinawa is to-te which means Tang -hand, referring to Chinese -Hand. But the Japanese wanted to dissociate it from the Chinese and renamed it Karate Do which means the way if the Empty hand (which doesn’t make sense when you consider the plethora of weapons). To-te spoken in Korean is Tang-soo which is very similar to Chinese Tang-shao. So Tang-Soo Do is the Korean of the original Okinawan name giving homage to the Chinese origins .
Thank you, Sir, for the factual and informative narrative.
A funny fact: shotokan was a name given by Funakoshi's students to his school, but the style that he used to teach was okinawan shorin ryu.
I consider Hwang Kee to be the founder of Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do and the way its practiced by organizations like the World Tang Soo Do Association and Chuck Norris etc. Also I see no reason to doubt Hwang Kee's honesty about training under someone in China. I've read about his life and that account makes perfect sense. About 40% of Tang Soo Do/Soo Bahk Do consist of Kung Fu and the rest mainly consist of ancient Korean Subak and Taekkyon elements as well as some Shotokan Karate though not to the same degree as the ancient korean fighting styles.
Hwang Kee had Chinese style movements in his forms. Proof of his Chinese influence. In the day, our school practiced those movements. We thought they were from my instructor's Chinese training, but when I saw Hwang Kee's son doing the same movements..................They could have been very old Korean style movements years before the name Korea was used..
@@jameskrten1164 You are 100% correct on everything you stated!
Tang Soo do is my life loved the video!
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Great video. Thanks for breaking that down. I have a question. Have you heard of Kong Soo Do? It seems to be very similar to Tang Soo Do. Still coming from Shotokan in Japan.
Gichin Funakoshi while he brought Okinawa karate to Japan , intended to make karate a Japanese style , he changed in a word ,,karate ,, first hieroglyph , which mean , chineese , to the another hieroglyph with same pronounce which means ,,empty, , so instead chineese hand word ,,karate,, became meaning ,empty hand , so on Korean pronunciation word karate as chineese hand meaning will be pronounced like tang soo do , as ,empty hand ,, will be pronounced like kong soo do .
The same way Japanese word aikido on Korean will be pronounced like hapkido , aiki ju-jitsu like hapki- yusul , Budo like Mudo
Thank you this was very helpful
Thank you so much for the information, it is quite hard to find the history of Tang Soo do and its relationship with Karate and Taekwondo in the mist of all the misinformation and propaganda out there!
Won Kukk Lee founded the Poomsae forms that modern WT Taekwondo practioners use. He is really the founder of Taekwondo. So his version of Tang Soo Do was different from the Moo Duk Kwan style that Tang Soo Do today follows.
@@jameskrten1164 If Lee was the founder, how come there were 5 kwans founded right after the Korean War?
What is your point? It's somewhat controversial, or it's not really controversial? The only people who question the founding of Tang Soo Do are the ones who belong to some fly-by-night association who are trying to justify their existence. Politics and petty jealousies have more to do with questioning the founding of Tang Soo Do.
Not true about the name .
The original name of karate in Okinawa is to-te which means Tang -hand, referring to Chinese -Hand. But the Japanese wanted to dissociate it from the Chinese and renamed it Karate Do which means the way if the Empty hand (which doesn’t make sense when you consider the plethora of weapons).
To-te spoken in Korean is Tang-soo which is very similar to Chinese Tang-shao. So Tang-Soo Do is the Korean of the original Okinawan name giving homage to the Chinese origins .
Tang Soo Do (唐手道) - The Way of the Tang Peoples' (Chinese ) Hands