i think the shadow nova targets a player that has the highest threat other then the tank(maybe 2nd to 5th?). Back in the days we killed Alythess first and then the shadow nova always targeted a healer.
Fellow healer, creator and new sub here. You sir have a sweet channel full of helpful guides. Hope you grow as fast as your hps. Cheers from Argentina.
Early on in the PTR stuff like SWD, sappers, slammers removed the touched debuffs, but just before the PTR closed they stopped working so I think the answer will be no.
@@Joardee Slammers still work for removing shadow stacks (takes like 3s for the fire damage to tick). Super handy to have. They don't show up on logs and I'm guessing that's related to why they avoided the PTR change.
Yeah, if you run 3 healing priests, having one go disc and functioning as more of a tank healer while the other 2 raid heal with COH would be a good idea.
Blaze: five to 75 hundred. Fifty to 75 hundred*? Just curious if it’s actually that large of a damage span or not? Keep up the amazing guides man! We’re at twins now so came back to rewatch :D
No Joke, our tanks keep getting conflag. Our fire tank is fine, but I would say 70% of our attempts, have had conflag hit a sacro tank and has even timed with up with stunning the MT, leaving no tank at all on Sacro... We have clips showing that our 2nd tank is atleast 10-20% away from the third person on threat, but one of the two sacro tanks can still get it. We're guessing maybe there are spikes of threat that aren't being registered on the meters and those spikes are syncing with the moment conflag is targeted or casted, therefore picking a tank on third threat even though no one is seeing it on the meters. Any ideas??? was this something that was a problem in the past and gets fixed in nerf? other guilds having this issue?
No but the 2nd on threat can, which can cause both tanks to be disoriented at the same time. The boss then usually runs at the hunter/warlock sitting behind the tanks on threat
In your raid composition you mention "Holy". Does that mean Holy Priests or Holy Paladins or one of each? Presumably, it's two CoH priests right? No Holy Paladin?
Warlock tanking worked for us, but using a prot paladin also works great. We liked having the extra .5 healer in the prot paladin but in the long run we'll definitely be dropping the warlock and using the paladin as the Alythess tank.
@@Joardee that's actually fucking brain dead dad guild thinking. Why didnt you just tell everyone to go down to the floor and spread out then? You can tank it with a hunter or any class....... the smartest, efficient, optimal, easiest way is a prot pally(which we know every guild has one)Giving advice to people that is sub par is cringe. So take away 2k dps from a warlock and add 400hps from a prot pally......when phase 1 is easier if you kill her faster. See how pepega that sounds when you actually read it? You're setting casual guilds up for failure when you tell them shit like this.
Sounds to me like you're more interested in sounding superior to dps rather than growing your channel... Please don't tell me you feel like you have a lot of mechanics to deal with as a healer in TBC. If you have something to prove mechanics wise, do it in retail. I think you had similar snarky remarks on your Felmyst video...It has to be a dislike and unsub from me... sry
I like that your guide shows tank heals and DPS perspective, extremely helpful. Cheers!!!
Thanks for always pumping out amazing guides. Joardee!
The man is pumping those guides out, harder than he pumps healing on twins.
Ikr, he probably doesn't even smell his socks after a long run.
I liked how direct and fully explained the starts are. Nice mind 👍
damn im too late for the party. hands down best sunwell guide so far
Best guides on YT, wished you did these back in previous phases!
thx a ton for posting these!!!!
thx alot can´t wait for your next guides
i think the shadow nova targets a player that has the highest threat other then the tank(maybe 2nd to 5th?). Back in the days we killed Alythess first and then the shadow nova always targeted a healer.
We think its something like 2nd to 5th too but felt we didn't have enough data to be sure
The true g.o.a.t
Fellow healer, creator and new sub here. You sir have a sweet channel full of helpful guides.
Hope you grow as fast as your hps.
Cheers from Argentina.
Great guide boss man, thanks !!
Enjoying these guides since its from ptr and is more likely to be what live is then older guides.
The guides are helpful thankyou :)
Great guide, nice job.
thank you based joardee
As a tank you can use living action potion to get rid of the disorient if you need more threat
so fap works aswell i assume?
@@gardeman1 there is a slight difference between the two in terms of the tooltip, which is why fap doesn't work
Pvp trinket doesn't work on the confounding blow which sucks
@joardee Excellent video as always! By the way what is the name of the song at 3:06?
Does shadow word death consume flame touched?
Early on in the PTR stuff like SWD, sappers, slammers removed the touched debuffs, but just before the PTR closed they stopped working so I think the answer will be no.
@@Joardee Slammers still work for removing shadow stacks (takes like 3s for the fire damage to tick). Super handy to have. They don't show up on logs and I'm guessing that's related to why they avoided the PTR change.
Can rogues vanish conflag and is there a conflag wa?
Yes, dunno about WA
Question : In p2, when ranged jumps down, do they neey to get into the fire to reset shadow stacks ?
Can you melee cleave on P1?
not worth it because Alythess will full heal once Sacrolash dies.
Casters have to jump down to clear conflag then have to run all the way back up?
no you can just run backwards on the platform up top. Just make sure you are 8 yards away from anyone else. So you dont have to run far.
Our raid is probably bringing 3 priests, is it worth having a disc priest for pain suppression on some of the tank mechanics?
Yeah, if you run 3 healing priests, having one go disc and functioning as more of a tank healer while the other 2 raid heal with COH would be a good idea.
Very nice and comprehensive but one thing, can't Sathrovarr also crush?
I haven't seen him crush since patch release so very likely no
Does anyone know what raid group ui that shaman is using at 0:8:06? look really dope.
elvui
I can't focus on this video because this old school progressive trance music is just too fkn good
Are hunters able to fd the conflag cast?
Yes
Does Confounding Blow get interrupted by damage taken by any chance, similar to blind? And I imagine Conflagration can't be line-of-sighted, right?
If you iceblock conflag cast immediately - does it still go off and wipe the raid? Or do you still want to run out and then block AFTER the cast?
Blaze: five to 75 hundred. Fifty to 75 hundred*? Just curious if it’s actually that large of a damage span or not? Keep up the amazing guides man! We’re at twins now so came back to rewatch :D
No Joke, our tanks keep getting conflag. Our fire tank is fine, but I would say 70% of our attempts, have had conflag hit a sacro tank and has even timed with up with stunning the MT, leaving no tank at all on Sacro... We have clips showing that our 2nd tank is atleast 10-20% away from the third person on threat, but one of the two sacro tanks can still get it. We're guessing maybe there are spikes of threat that aren't being registered on the meters and those spikes are syncing with the moment conflag is targeted or casted, therefore picking a tank on third threat even though no one is seeing it on the meters. Any ideas??? was this something that was a problem in the past and gets fixed in nerf? other guilds having this issue?
does feign work on conflag casts?
Yes it does
So i asume the Tank for Alythess is wearing full fire res? or just normal geared?
No fire res, none of the damage is resistable.
@@Joardee is this all damage overall, too? So like shadow protection pots/fire pots don't do anything?
My guild is planning on using me as Aly tank. Can I use Nether Protection or will she behave like Capernian?
Can the Sacrolash tank be targeted by Conflagration?
No but the 2nd on threat can, which can cause both tanks to be disoriented at the same time. The boss then usually runs at the hunter/warlock sitting behind the tanks on threat
In your raid composition you mention "Holy". Does that mean Holy Priests or Holy Paladins or one of each? Presumably, it's two CoH priests right? No Holy Paladin?
One of each. You can tell by the color of the word "Holy."
For us, the 2nd in aggro gets Conflag about 50% of the time, and it's pretty annoying.
tanks can still get conflagration even if they are 2nd in threat.
Thats not a good mage blink, good one would be if he ran away from grp first than blink back in after taking that damage.
Eh, if he currently has active CDs, then yes, it was a good blink.
thanks for rushing the videos.
Warlock tanking is actually griefing....especially casual guilds.
Warlock tanking worked for us, but using a prot paladin also works great. We liked having the extra .5 healer in the prot paladin but in the long run we'll definitely be dropping the warlock and using the paladin as the Alythess tank.
@@Joardee that's actually fucking brain dead dad guild thinking. Why didnt you just tell everyone to go down to the floor and spread out then? You can tank it with a hunter or any class....... the smartest, efficient, optimal, easiest way is a prot pally(which we know every guild has one)Giving advice to people that is sub par is cringe.
So take away 2k dps from a warlock and add 400hps from a prot pally......when phase 1 is easier if you kill her faster. See how pepega that sounds when you actually read it?
You're setting casual guilds up for failure when you tell them shit like this.
JUST STACK THE RAID IN THE CENTER YOU COWARDS
Allah Huakbar
Dude you talk too fast. You speak as if we know wtf you talkin bout already. What you mean trinket the immunities?
Sounds to me like you're more interested in sounding superior to dps rather than growing your channel... Please don't tell me you feel like you have a lot of mechanics to deal with as a healer in TBC. If you have something to prove mechanics wise, do it in retail. I think you had similar snarky remarks on your Felmyst video...It has to be a dislike and unsub from me... sry
Imagine having such a fragile ego lmao
Triggerd
Take a joke :D
Dude 🤣
Imagine getting triggered this heavily over his comprehensive guide…. A guide to a fight that’s 15 years old…..in a game of elves and talking cows.