No one did this so I may as well whilst I watch: #5 Cerberus: 1:06 #4 Lil’ Guan Yizzle: 4:50 #3 Sun Wukong: 8:35 #2 King Arthur: 12:56 Honourable Mentions: Set: 17:30 Ratatouille: 20:09 Camazotz: 24:03 #1: Cu Chullain: 27:45
Honestly I've never hated him more than Season 8. I played him in casual conq for the first time this year and I see why people play him. Early game is just a formality. You can press buttons and the only thing you'll fear is a gank. And that's only if you're really pushed up.
If u use bellona u can kill him fast early game by using mankin to bring down his health while u absorb his basic when they run u do your 2nd ability and it's a kill usually first blood
Well he is easy to handle if he gets ganked and the opposing solo laner kills him first. I always gank/ ask for a gank a few seconds after blue buff. It works out pretty well
Thanks for a chill talking video, fineo, my last childhood cat passed away just now and watching and listening has helped me relax a bit. Keep up the great work, brother.
@@amaterasu9048 Agreed completely i don’t get why they get they put flat DR and protections in the first play jungle don’t need that much survivability in the early game
@@chaotyxz6500 They don’t really need to do that nerf tho it’s supposed to be a jungle item and then reducing attack speed increases kill potential a lot in early game but the survivability with flat DR is insane especially with warriors in lane phase
I understand that it's still new in the meta and things are changing with patches and whatnot, but I really do like those joint tier list videos you make with Pandacat. If you don't want to spend 3 hours talking about every character in the game maybe top 5 picks for each role?
Keep in mind, he is a pro player meaning he knows what the best builds and gods are at a pro level, but that may not carry over into your ranked matches. Especially if you’re Platinum or lower. Some gods last season(e.g. Arachne Aphrodite)were B tier list or below, but in ranked matches they were banned nearly every game. Much like he said, prioritize these gods in an order that suits you and your rank, but also don’t discard the things he says as they are very helpful in learning to get to a higher level of play.
@@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504 for the most part I agree, but at lower levels of play you can get away with a lot more especially if you were a high rank the season prior. Most items are pretty self explanatory for the reasoning behind building them and they carry over through all ranks, but sometimes you can get away with building other items or even building different items for different situations. Hence, why I also explained that he knows what he’s talking about while arguing that you don’t have to build exactly why he built because it won’t ALWAYS be the best for the match.
if you proc sundering axe while hitting multiple enemies with an ability.. does it proc on the highest health enemy? the closest? or would it actually proc on both/all enemies hit?
yesterday i wound up in a weird match where i was solo laning against an aphro and cthulu. They treated it like duo lane. Still no where near as hard as soloing against Cu. I was playing Artio with Warrior Axe and Soul gem so I kept double killing them just because they kept trying to beat my sustain.
Thats really common in mobas where jungles are not necessarily a role you need. You see in often in league you did in paragon. Games where really the only thing you need in the jungle is the jungle boss. Honestly I would think it would work well in smite mostly cuz the players arent used to it.
Extremely helpful for those who don't play a lot of Solo :) Thank you. Guan worked absolutely fantastic for me, yet with KA I got absolutely desroyed by Manikin Osiris in Early, yet was a lot stronger than him late. Very hard trade to swallow unless you already in high up Ranked, where people understand what is what.
I've been nezha maining since the start of season 8, he does fine in all matchups tbh and if you get ganked on him with your team following up behind them, you win those skirmishes basically every time with your ult.
I’m just hoping Cu Chu doesnt get a fat nerf. He’s been my favorite god through his best and his worst, his lore and character design in game are just so cool.
Cucu is my main been playing him since feb of 2019 but ik he’s gonna get nerfed the way he is rn seems strong and I’ve been enjoying Achilles tryna get him to diamond and also fenrir in solo
surprised rage boy is top solo, thought Aurthor still was even though I love using rage boy and Bellona. Thanks for the great content, glad your girl is feeling better.
I think cthulu is very underrated this season because I think he matches up well against physical solo lanes forcing them away from their main items and has a lot of damage with so much health.
warrior axe/sentinel/warding sigil against 3 magicals, cd shoes, stonebinding is a must...booth protections, cheap and u buff your whole team, valor for cd, void stone so u buy 32 mages in your team, and witcher to counter gunter in the late game. typical high pressure guardian support for gods like Cthulhu or cerberus
Since you mentioned eye of the jungle have you tried going bumbas dagger, on like wu Kong or anyone who is safe but can auto-cancel effiecently, aggressively counter jungling and then going into bumbas hammer later in the game? You should get to lane way before the opponent if you both start speed so you shouldn’t get jumped early. Just wondering your thoughts.
Why would you start bumbas in solo lmao. At that point you may as well skip starter early and just get bumbas hammer late. But there’s no point doing that on Wukong.
@@kriegaone3658 that’s a fair point the only reason to get it early is if you were against a god that you aren’t going to fight directly and instead would try to hyper farm by clearing lane and stealing their camps as fast as possible. The reason I suggested wukong specifically is because he can clear both the wave and camps very quickly especially with bumbas and won’t just insta die if he’s caught on the wrong side of the map and can really abuse bumbas hammer more than most solos but also can’t really abuse manakin. Bumbas is also very cheap so it wouldn’t hurt your build too much and if you find yourself taking your own blue or helping the jungler invade/go for scorpion it will save you a reasonable amount of time and resources. Sorry for the long reply I understand that it’s a weird suggestion, I’m basically thinking that against a god you can’t fight head on you instead try to cripple their farm while playing safe then scaling up into a super low cooldown bruiser that can’t die. There are a lot more camps on this map and they respawn pretty quick and hammer is kinda insane which is why I thought this might at least be fun.
I've been playing blue stone Achilles into cu cu. Sounds weird but Achilles has always been great at fighting and terrible at clearing. With blue stone clear is fine and you're still so tanky because of your two and you can go defense stance right after boots. Also it's hard for cu cu to jump your abilities and even if he's winning a trade he has to worry about your ult or you can ult out. Achilles loves the shields and they're good right now. With a hybrid shield build you still reach capped resistance on him and do great damage. Even with gaia you reach capped resistance with your 2 and defense stance. He actually is a lot better this season the items and match ups really favor him. All the things that make blue stone bad are mitigated on achilles because of his 2 and defense stance. You just sell it late and go gaia or something for sustain.
Warriors axe (preferred) or bluestone. Warrior or tank boots. Glad shield, shifters shield, Frostbound, genjis, onis, breastplate, urchin, void shield, pridwen, spirit robe, stone of Gaia, any daggers, and cad shield are all good tank items. Runic or ancile can fit in there if they have more magical. You can finish with heart seeker. Crusher and hydras are good damage items on him.
With the passive you get so much hp5, it isn’t the end of the world not having it but if you are soloing against someone with a knock up it is still a great pickup.
I stopped using soul eater on wukong. with bluestone being so good I stack hp5 with a rushed stone of gia and caduceus shield towards the end. So bluestone, SoG, defense boots, glad shield, shifter, then either pestilence or cad shield sell boots then pesti. Wukong doesn't really need damage since bluestone shifter and glad deal more than enough to non tanks.
Thank you so much for all the builds and info ! i really like pele but i have to use her more so i can be better in lane. what items would you build on her?
This probably won’t be answered but I’m still curious, is solo terra still a thing and if so how do you build her? I went with manikins or gladiators axe but don’t know where to go after that
Yeah she still hits pretty hard wouldn’t give her top tier atm just because a lot of these new builds are giving already op gods slapping damage even trying terra right now to test her you’ll probs be slapped until nerfs come out in next patch
What antiheal opinion would you go on Arthur? If I’m in a game where I need antiheal I feel so much weaker. I’ve been replacing my void shield with contagion because that seems like the best option.
With Warrior's Axe on King Arthur, you want to go Sundering Axe instead of Hero's Axe? Can you explain the reasoning behind that? That's the only part that's kind of confusing me right now for the King Arthur build.
I mean who wouldn’t pick cu chuclainn. I’m tired of seeing blue stone Arthur’s so now they can take all that damage they do and hold it is I shove their butts under tower and take their blue.
@@regretgames5580 i actually don’t like manikin on him I prefer axe or new sigil when it gets buffed personally. I’m not gona say it’s annoying plying against him it’s just you have to respect the transform unless you re paying someone like cuthulu
I feel like nemesis would not be good in solo just because of the fact of how hard she would get out cleared early game, you would have to play pretty much under tower or risk taking a bunch of damage and getting killed, either situation the other player gets a lead, so you would need to back for golden blade asap, then you might have a chance
Yeah I’ve been slapping literally all solos with Osiris only Issue is bellona IF she gets a slight lane advantage I’ll have to play very cautious and rely on outdoing her in teamfights and rotations but osiris is really good
Have you tried artio with Vampiric shroud? I've been absolutely wrecking with it. I usually go breastplate voidstone and ethereal staff. From there it's easy to flex items for more defense, anti-heal, power
I feel like they should make rat’s acorn to be a commitment item like relics, but slightly different in such that, once you max it, you get the ability modifiers locked to the character, then you can still sell it, and you keep the modifier to your kit you just lose the power/prots and such
@@tykelly8236 I see I missed the part where I included you can’t sell the one acorn to buy another after you’ve completed it. They’ve already used that concept for starters, why rat should lose part of his kit that he’s been using all game as punishment for wanting a 6th item slot filled with a real item is understandable, but it just feels bad on the character. So in other words, it’s a commitments item, similar to relics. Just that it modifies your kit the whole game even after you sell it, you lose all the power and move speed, but keep the kit change. Edit: so maybe instead of coming in and saying “no! that’s not the thing you said” you could have come into the comments and asked how it was meant to be a commitment thing, or for more clarification, instead of just acting like an ignorant ass. But hey, some people just need to put others down for ideas sooo have fun with that sad mentality.
Fine i tried horus manikin and it actually works really good with tank boots and gea your hp just dokt go down and you can go like a crazy bastard destroying people
I'd give Artio an Honourable mention now Vamp Shroud Cooldown Boots Breastplate What ever you want / Pythagoras / Divine Ruin / Mystical Mail etc Void Stone Big Defense = Hide of Urchin / Mantle / Spirit Robe etc Desolation Spear or Something else with power for Boots I never get bullied out of the lane as you heal stupid amounts and Vamp Shroud and Passive keeps your Mana High
I played chu chulian after he got nerfed after season 3 or 4 , and he fell off hard but I always thought he was a monster , glad to see him back where he belongs
IMO Ymir is in my top 3. Getting benevolence into tier 1 warlocks gives you almost an insufferable amount of health early and your passive makes you deal equal amounts of damage almost like you didn't build a support item. Even his midgame where Ymir is known to fall off feels super easy because by then you got warlocks stacked and a tanky build to go with it. The only problem is that against manikins he falls off and is not able to use his passive as effectively.
@@tykelly8236 I build warlocks for the power and pen on top of the health. However, it also nets you more gp5 and xp5 so it kinda balances out in the laning phase
My man, u never tried cucu with the bluestone attack speed reduction upgrade that also give u attack speed, along with talisman of energy and maybe a frost or a witchblade?! Pretty strong late game. Or the double transformation ult with the jungler bumba thing there? Pretty strong too, still hard to kill in both builds and of course, still doing the cucu stuff that we all like and love...u know just asking to the most clever solo laner in the pro the most idiotic things i experiment!
He 100% is, but he lacks in damage. He's good in team fights and had a lot of utility, he'd just lose a lot in laning phase to some of the stronger warriors on here unless you're a good Cthulhu. It's like Fine said in the beginning, play what you're having success with. Everything is viable, I made Nemesis work in the solo lane the other day so it just depends on the matchup and your skill with said God.
He feels very underwhelming atm I would say warrior axe has been a go to bc manakin don't help him stay in lane like you would want he becomes very passive once ults come online
@@BloodiedFate thxs yea I think he feels better as a jungle with current items than as a solo and with shen and bellona being so nice idk why I keep seeing him haha
@@ziegfeld4131 not really it's very bully meta and you need to snowball really hard with him to get going or you just die every team fight his kit is kinda lack luster compared to other solo laners he gets bullied way to easy
I have tryes conduit gem on cerb 2 times and both times i won those games builded hybrid def and dmg build and i was tanky with good dmg to peel those squishys
Mage in solo its trash , solo is suppose to replace the support for tanking the tower or the Phoenix , mage cannot do that , espacially when people build them full dammage
Im plat in conquest , and every time im against or some one in my team took a mage in solo , they build power item only , i hope ur in a better rank then me because in my helo , mage solo are thrash
Tbf warriors are obviously better in solo lane but playing warriors used to be boring asf that’s why I wanted a little fun and started mages I am going back to warriors obviously in this season busted af
@@pablonieto5058 yeah I upgraded to bloadsoaked. I was still full health after a 10-15 sec team fight lol I haven't tried sacrificial on her, not sure if that one is even good on her.
Anyone have tips on how to stop building teleport? I always buy it cos I’m worried about dying and not getting back in time. Is it about clearing wave and pushing up and then backing once you’ve done that?
its called push your wave and tele right then.... or plan ahead... push your wave knowing full well the solo laner is going to steal ur tower when you rotate but u rotate anyways cause you know u can take that mid tower and get 2 kills and still make it back to defend your solo tier 2. Throwing towers to win a lane or kill a titan is all part of the grand plan... maybe ur losing solo and duo needs a gank... your jungler has been trash all game.. start doing its job and gank and roam... defend lanes... dont challenge any lanes or towers without friends... unless you a see a team fight accounting for all the enemies letting you split push and steal a tower or phoenix while ur team defends or wipes... then blames u for not being there cause they are trash and think team fighting constantly is how you win... while also not having the smarts to bait the enemy closer to your base so your team is constantly pushed up like jack asses not even hitting towers.. or rotating lanes just snow balling mid like complete morons... So guess what you steal that phoenix and say your welcome in vgs when they ping you cause they all died in mid to that team fight instead of playing under tower as a unit...or roaming as one. while u tele back and defend the titan or kill theirs... or steal fire giant with a ward and wipe them all by yourself... cause you waited till they all got low health and ulted them and dropped your whole kit on them last second... bam MVP who needs a tank or carry or trash jungler/mid or even that dumb ass support that never leaves duo and does it job and actually supports the team after 5 min into the game instead of casually stealing xp and gold from carry all game. whenu can make plays like that just by being good..
Cu chu wasn’t even in the top five or honorable mentions for solo last season now he’s number 1, just crazy how people are now playing him so much now.
No one did this so I may as well whilst I watch:
#5 Cerberus: 1:06
#4 Lil’ Guan Yizzle: 4:50
#3 Sun Wukong: 8:35
#2 King Arthur: 12:56
Honourable Mentions:
Set: 17:30
Ratatouille: 20:09
Camazotz: 24:03
#1: Cu Chullain: 27:45
Ah yes now instead of having Cu Chulainn in 95% of my games he will be in 99% percent of them LMAO
Honestly I've never hated him more than Season 8. I played him in casual conq for the first time this year and I see why people play him. Early game is just a formality. You can press buttons and the only thing you'll fear is a gank. And that's only if you're really pushed up.
If u use bellona u can kill him fast early game by using mankin to bring down his health while u absorb his basic when they run u do your 2nd ability and it's a kill usually first blood
All I see is king arthur
Well he is easy to handle if he gets ganked and the opposing solo laner kills him first. I always gank/ ask for a gank a few seconds after blue buff. It works out pretty well
@@dennisaviles4172 Nope. You get smacked early
Thanks for a chill talking video, fineo, my last childhood cat passed away just now and watching and listening has helped me relax a bit. Keep up the great work, brother.
I’m sorry to hear that James :( stay strong!
I hope you have the right people around man, bless up
Warding seagull ftw
I could use one of those at the beach
As soon as he said that I was like wtf is a warding seagull
@@Qyshawn he said it in a recent video and everyone in the comments pointed it out so now he just says it to troll😂
“Damn seagulls”
@@StaffZodo ahahaha the Same was in my mind
Me waiting for them to take the +3 flat damage reduction off Manikins scepter
Hopefully not 🤣
They're reducing the physical protections and attack speed slow but increasing the dmg to jungle camps.
Defence and dmg reduction needs to be removed completely and the damage nerf needs to be reverted imo.
@@amaterasu9048 Agreed completely i don’t get why they get they put flat DR and protections in the first play jungle don’t need that much survivability in the early game
@@chaotyxz6500 They don’t really need to do that nerf tho it’s supposed to be a jungle item and then reducing attack speed increases kill potential a lot in early game but the survivability with flat DR is insane especially with warriors in lane phase
I really hope fine says warding seagull for the entire season
I don't, hate hearing my last name randomly.
@@HellSparkey I wish my last name was warding seagull. Pretty cool
@@miner4236 lol yeah, warding in front would make it more interesting for sure.
Casual comment for the algorithm, keep up the great work fonzo
Dito.
I understand that it's still new in the meta and things are changing with patches and whatnot, but I really do like those joint tier list videos you make with Pandacat. If you don't want to spend 3 hours talking about every character in the game maybe top 5 picks for each role?
Keep in mind, he is a pro player meaning he knows what the best builds and gods are at a pro level, but that may not carry over into your ranked matches. Especially if you’re Platinum or lower. Some gods last season(e.g. Arachne Aphrodite)were B tier list or below, but in ranked matches they were banned nearly every game. Much like he said, prioritize these gods in an order that suits you and your rank, but also don’t discard the things he says as they are very helpful in learning to get to a higher level of play.
His builds work at every lvl though.
@@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504 ^
Builds don’t change at whatever level ur at gods will
Aphro wasn’t B tier last season lol
@@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504 for the most part I agree, but at lower levels of play you can get away with a lot more especially if you were a high rank the season prior. Most items are pretty self explanatory for the reasoning behind building them and they carry over through all ranks, but sometimes you can get away with building other items or even building different items for different situations. Hence, why I also explained that he knows what he’s talking about while arguing that you don’t have to build exactly why he built because it won’t ALWAYS be the best for the match.
PAPA FINEO IS BACK TEACHING ME HOW NOT TO BE TRASH AT SOLO
Cerberus 1:09
Guan yu 5:09
Sun wukong 8:49
King arthur 13:09
Set 17:15
Ratatoskr 20:30
Camazotz 24:12
Ci chulainn 28:20
Love how its warding Seagal now with no laughs.
2:14 "mini pridwen proc"
I think you mean bigger pridwen proc
if you proc sundering axe while hitting multiple enemies with an ability.. does it proc on the highest health enemy? the closest? or would it actually proc on both/all enemies hit?
yesterday i wound up in a weird match where i was solo laning against an aphro and cthulu. They treated it like duo lane. Still no where near as hard as soloing against Cu. I was playing Artio with Warrior Axe and Soul gem so I kept double killing them just because they kept trying to beat my sustain.
That's some Paragon play style right there.
Sounds like some bronze
sounds like someone got sooky they didnt get to play duo lane with there friend lol
Thats really common in mobas where jungles are not necessarily a role you need. You see in often in league you did in paragon. Games where really the only thing you need in the jungle is the jungle boss. Honestly I would think it would work well in smite mostly cuz the players arent used to it.
Extremely helpful for those who don't play a lot of Solo :) Thank you. Guan worked absolutely fantastic for me, yet with KA I got absolutely desroyed by Manikin Osiris in Early, yet was a lot stronger than him late. Very hard trade to swallow unless you already in high up Ranked, where people understand what is what.
You know it’s a good video when fineo is doing an Uncle Sam pose in the thumbnail
Hehe yeah boi
Oh how the mighty have fallen. King Arthur now at the number 2 spot.
@Corpse Tea Cthulhu is underpowered now but the community sees him at top tier still making him pretty balanced
Arthur is still somewhat on par with cu its just that manikin is fucking busted. Early in solo he can bully super hard with his rage form also.
I always get so excited to play after watching your videos, then I get in-game and feed. Still fun though, my poor teammates.
relatable
Bro i got so much better watching your videos, keep up the good work!
I like the mystical mail build, but didn't it kind of interfere with blink? I always have issues with it
Weird bellona, Osiris and erlang aren't on here with maninkin
Idk I don’t think erlang is That strong in Solo compared to his jungle play
@@whatisarainbowsix564 everytime i see a warrior jungle on the enemy team i get real sad.
Thanks for the video! Good info as always. Been loving Cerb this season
Ward blue solos I've seen some fucked stuff coming from Ravana flex stealing blue in the beginning jungle clear.
What???
Can you write this again in English this time?
I know he didn't write it super clearly but if you cant figure out what he meant, you kinda slow
@@sellyop432 hes saying ravana steals his blue while he's helping his Jung clear camps lol. It's not rocket science
@@esleyb7968 thank you
Terminology is important in smite helps you understand certian smite-slang better
Great video as always👍 Could you maybe make a video talking about how to play from behind as a solo laner(earls-mid-late game)?
With all the Cu Chu running about Herc has been a fun pick. A lot of them play over aggressive so you can just shove them into tower repeatedly.
I've been nezha maining since the start of season 8, he does fine in all matchups tbh and if you get ganked on him with your team following up behind them, you win those skirmishes basically every time with your ult.
Ive been wanting to play nezha in solo so bad but it never works out for me... build?
would your first item on Rat or Set change if you were against a magical?
I’m just hoping Cu Chu doesnt get a fat nerf. He’s been my favorite god through his best and his worst, his lore and character design in game are just so cool.
Cucu is my main been playing him since feb of 2019 but ik he’s gonna get nerfed the way he is rn seems strong and I’ve been enjoying Achilles tryna get him to diamond and also fenrir in solo
surprised rage boy is top solo, thought Aurthor still was even though I love using rage boy and Bellona. Thanks for the great content, glad your girl is feeling better.
Great video!! Also i would love both a coaching video/stream and a tierlist. Maybe with panda again :)
Would love to see a top 5 and item explanation for each role from you. I just like how you explain everything.
Osiris feels GREAT right now. Once they nerf Manikin I’m gonna run Deaths Toll on him. Feels good to actually play him again. Great vid man
are you keeping stone of binding even through the late game or are you selling it (ON CERBERUS)
I think cthulu is very underrated this season because I think he matches up well against physical solo lanes forcing them away from their main items and has a lot of damage with so much health.
This def helped. Thanks man!
Should you go deaths toll now with manikin nerf for aa warriors ama bellona Osiris etc
Just want you to know i regularly sit through full ads so you get revenue as im poor so its a way i can contribute.
Love your content, thanks!
can we get a top 5 Gaurdian solo lane video soon fineokay? im curious to hear your thoughts
Would you think Rod on Cerb or Cthulu would be a good item?
They would much prefer a flat pen item
warrior axe/sentinel/warding sigil against 3 magicals, cd shoes, stonebinding is a must...booth protections, cheap and u buff your whole team, valor for cd, void stone so u buy 32 mages in your team, and witcher to counter gunter in the late game. typical high pressure guardian support for gods like Cthulhu or cerberus
I’d prioritise Estaff and Divine
Thoughts on Cthulu this season?
Trees too big for the big fella. Can't see shiet in ult.
@@xLamont_ spray and pray lol
@@xLamont_ this^^
He feels great with estaff and sundering axe
@@kriegaone3658 what build do you feel works best, Axe, boots, breastplate, estaff, and what would you say last two?
Since you mentioned eye of the jungle have you tried going bumbas dagger, on like wu Kong or anyone who is safe but can auto-cancel effiecently, aggressively counter jungling and then going into bumbas hammer later in the game?
You should get to lane way before the opponent if you both start speed so you shouldn’t get jumped early. Just wondering your thoughts.
Why would you start bumbas in solo lmao. At that point you may as well skip starter early and just get bumbas hammer late. But there’s no point doing that on Wukong.
@@kriegaone3658 that’s a fair point the only reason to get it early is if you were against a god that you aren’t going to fight directly and instead would try to hyper farm by clearing lane and stealing their camps as fast as possible. The reason I suggested wukong specifically is because he can clear both the wave and camps very quickly especially with bumbas and won’t just insta die if he’s caught on the wrong side of the map and can really abuse bumbas hammer more than most solos but also can’t really abuse manakin. Bumbas is also very cheap so it wouldn’t hurt your build too much and if you find yourself taking your own blue or helping the jungler invade/go for scorpion it will save you a reasonable amount of time and resources.
Sorry for the long reply I understand that it’s a weird suggestion, I’m basically thinking that against a god you can’t fight head on you instead try to cripple their farm while playing safe then scaling up into a super low cooldown bruiser that can’t die. There are a lot more camps on this map and they respawn pretty quick and hammer is kinda insane which is why I thought this might at least be fun.
I've been playing blue stone Achilles into cu cu. Sounds weird but Achilles has always been great at fighting and terrible at clearing. With blue stone clear is fine and you're still so tanky because of your two and you can go defense stance right after boots. Also it's hard for cu cu to jump your abilities and even if he's winning a trade he has to worry about your ult or you can ult out. Achilles loves the shields and they're good right now. With a hybrid shield build you still reach capped resistance on him and do great damage. Even with gaia you reach capped resistance with your 2 and defense stance.
He actually is a lot better this season the items and match ups really favor him.
All the things that make blue stone bad are mitigated on achilles because of his 2 and defense stance. You just sell it late and go gaia or something for sustain.
Was hopin achilles would be in here just so i could get some build suggestions :(
Warriors axe (preferred) or bluestone. Warrior or tank boots. Glad shield, shifters shield, Frostbound, genjis, onis, breastplate, urchin, void shield, pridwen, spirit robe, stone of Gaia, any daggers, and cad shield are all good tank items. Runic or ancile can fit in there if they have more magical. You can finish with heart seeker. Crusher and hydras are good damage items on him.
Build bruiser... I always go warriors axe, soul eater, void, cad shield, ancile, depending glad shield/runic/spirit robe/heart seeker
He played an Achilles game that he posted not long ago
Actual frostbound lmao
Warriors axe, Warrior Tabi > Shifters (switch to tank stance) > Ancile > Void Shield > Mantle > Sundering Axe > boots for Brawlers or Dominance.
Thanks lad. Your doing great things for our community.
Opinions on mulan this season fineokay??
Would you not build stone of Gaia on cu chulainn? Just wondering due to a lack of sustain in his kit
He’s bullying one soo much you don’t need to if you play him right. Should have some sort of a lead so just keep up pressure I’d say
With the passive you get so much hp5, it isn’t the end of the world not having it but if you are soloing against someone with a knock up it is still a great pickup.
Hey fineokay is relic dagger good on a support style solo build for guan?
I stopped using soul eater on wukong. with bluestone being so good I stack hp5 with a rushed stone of gia and caduceus shield towards the end. So bluestone, SoG, defense boots, glad shield, shifter, then either pestilence or cad shield sell boots then pesti. Wukong doesn't really need damage since bluestone shifter and glad deal more than enough to non tanks.
Whats your opinion on Cthulhu now after the patch?
what's a good core build for mulan?
Dude solo Set is scary, I’m loving him rn
Thank you so much for all the builds and info ! i really like pele but i have to use her more so i can be better in lane. what items would you build on her?
For jungle Pele id start bumbas, then build Warrior > Crusher > Arondight > Brawlers/Shifters > Heartseeker > Bumba’s Hammer
For solo I’d go warriors axe, warrior tabi, soul eater, shifters, Cad shield, heartseaker, upgrade warriors to sundering axe
@@DudeImFonz thank you so much !!
Have you tried sundering axe into green acorn on rat the items compliment eachother perfectly for bruiser build
Tank acorn is better for damage late and works better with Glad Shield and Pridwen
This probably won’t be answered but I’m still curious, is solo terra still a thing and if so how do you build her? I went with manikins or gladiators axe but don’t know where to go after that
Yeah she still hits pretty hard wouldn’t give her top tier atm just because a lot of these new builds are giving already op gods slapping damage even trying terra right now to test her you’ll probs be slapped until nerfs come out in next patch
What antiheal opinion would you go on Arthur? If I’m in a game where I need antiheal I feel so much weaker. I’ve been replacing my void shield with contagion because that seems like the best option.
I’d swap the onis for pestilence. Swapping out void shield is a dps loss.
Kinda surprised you didn't mention ama I've been feeling good with the animosity build
Animosity means skipping starter early which is awful
Will set still be good and viable even after the nerf on both scepters and set himself?
Eres el mejor fineokay, gracias por las builds 👍✌
Fineokay what ear buds you using?? I need good ones with a mic
I just use some beats by dre but they’re wired and only like 50 bucks I think
For the rat build, do we sell Thickbark? Cuz we can't have both Sundering Axe and Void Shield Lol
He said you would have to drop one of the items. Personally I’d drop the Shifters, since having Glad and Void Shield is more important
With Warrior's Axe on King Arthur, you want to go Sundering Axe instead of Hero's Axe? Can you explain the reasoning behind that? That's the only part that's kind of confusing me right now for the King Arthur build.
No you want sundering axe, it’s much better, the passive helps you kill people late game
I mean who wouldn’t pick cu chuclainn. I’m tired of seeing blue stone Arthur’s so now they can take all that damage they do and hold it is I shove their butts under tower and take their blue.
From what I've heard, Cu Chu is even less fun to play against. At least if Cu build Manikin that is.
@@regretgames5580 i actually don’t like manikin on him I prefer axe or new sigil when it gets buffed personally. I’m not gona say it’s annoying plying against him it’s just you have to respect the transform unless you re paying someone like cuthulu
is TP now completely unviable?
How well do y'all think Nemesis could work in Solo? Does she need Golden Blade to be viable in all match-ups or is it dumb to use her there?
I feel like nemesis would not be good in solo just because of the fact of how hard she would get out cleared early game, you would have to play pretty much under tower or risk taking a bunch of damage and getting killed, either situation the other player gets a lead, so you would need to back for golden blade asap, then you might have a chance
I really think nemesis should be given more shine, I have absolutely bitched Arthur and Cucu matchups with nem, Osiris is also really good aswell.
Yeah I’ve been slapping literally all solos with Osiris only Issue is bellona IF she gets a slight lane advantage I’ll have to play very cautious and rely on outdoing her in teamfights and rotations but osiris is really good
Have you tried artio with Vampiric shroud? I've been absolutely wrecking with it. I usually go breastplate voidstone and ethereal staff. From there it's easy to flex items for more defense, anti-heal, power
he hates artio
@@bigfudge2031 oh... F. I've been slapping with this even 2v1ing in the first minute
I feel like they should make rat’s acorn to be a commitment item like relics, but slightly different in such that, once you max it, you get the ability modifiers locked to the character, then you can still sell it, and you keep the modifier to your kit you just lose the power/prots and such
That's nothing like relics lol. That is the opposite of commitment.
@@tykelly8236 I see I missed the part where I included you can’t sell the one acorn to buy another after you’ve completed it. They’ve already used that concept for starters, why rat should lose part of his kit that he’s been using all game as punishment for wanting a 6th item slot filled with a real item is understandable, but it just feels bad on the character.
So in other words, it’s a commitments item, similar to relics. Just that it modifies your kit the whole game even after you sell it, you lose all the power and move speed, but keep the kit change.
Edit: so maybe instead of coming in and saying “no! that’s not the thing you said” you could have come into the comments and asked how it was meant to be a commitment thing, or for more clarification, instead of just acting like an ignorant ass. But hey, some people just need to put others down for ideas sooo have fun with that sad mentality.
Fine i tried horus manikin and it actually works really good with tank boots and gea your hp just dokt go down and you can go like a crazy bastard destroying people
Don't play much solo but still like learning from you!
I'd give Artio an Honourable mention now
Vamp Shroud
Cooldown Boots
Breastplate
What ever you want / Pythagoras / Divine Ruin / Mystical Mail etc
Void Stone
Big Defense = Hide of Urchin / Mantle / Spirit Robe etc
Desolation Spear or Something else with power for Boots
I never get bullied out of the lane as you heal stupid amounts and Vamp Shroud and Passive keeps your Mana High
I'm playing Artio solo. Artio with Vampiric Shroud have a lot of Sustain.
Cu Chulainn just teached me the importance of using spear, 90% of the matchups against him; spear allows me to kill him in his beast form xd
Shifters shield on wukong also works very well with his passive
I played chu chulian after he got nerfed after season 3 or 4 , and he fell off hard but I always thought he was a monster , glad to see him back where he belongs
what would you buy after getting speed pot and selling boots
Prob one of the options he listed near the end of each build that isn’t the starter upgrade
IMO Ymir is in my top 3. Getting benevolence into tier 1 warlocks gives you almost an insufferable amount of health early and your passive makes you deal equal amounts of damage almost like you didn't build a support item. Even his midgame where Ymir is known to fall off feels super easy because by then you got warlocks stacked and a tanky build to go with it. The only problem is that against manikins he falls off and is not able to use his passive as effectively.
benevolence gives you 10% less exp and gold which makes you fall behind.
Also, warlocks only gives 200 health now so it isnt really a tanky item.
@@tykelly8236 I build warlocks for the power and pen on top of the health. However, it also nets you more gp5 and xp5 so it kinda balances out in the laning phase
I think bluestone Tyr is severely underrated! Alongside with Bellona and Osiris
What would you do if I have sun wukong against King Arthur?
My man, u never tried cucu with the bluestone attack speed reduction upgrade that also give u attack speed, along with talisman of energy and maybe a frost or a witchblade?! Pretty strong late game. Or the double transformation ult with the jungler bumba thing there? Pretty strong too, still hard to kill in both builds and of course, still doing the cucu stuff that we all like and love...u know just asking to the most clever solo laner in the pro the most idiotic things i experiment!
Do you think Cthulhu is still good/ decent in solo this season?
He 100% is, but he lacks in damage. He's good in team fights and had a lot of utility, he'd just lose a lot in laning phase to some of the stronger warriors on here unless you're a good Cthulhu.
It's like Fine said in the beginning, play what you're having success with. Everything is viable, I made Nemesis work in the solo lane the other day so it just depends on the matchup and your skill with said God.
@@MarshalEastwood how does he lack dmg ? He feels pretty busted with sundering axe
@@user-zk5ty7pq5g how's that gonna help him before level 20 though?
@@brucealmighty5881 how do you get bullied playing cuthulu solo ?
Any thoughts on how viable Osiris is in the meta right now with current items? Is he a manakin or axe starter?
He feels very underwhelming atm I would say warrior axe has been a go to bc manakin don't help him stay in lane like you would want he becomes very passive once ults come online
@@BloodiedFate thxs yea I think he feels better as a jungle with current items than as a solo and with shen and bellona being so nice idk why I keep seeing him haha
@@BloodiedFate underwhelming? Hes fucking insane right now he slaps
@@ziegfeld4131 not really it's very bully meta and you need to snowball really hard with him to get going or you just die every team fight his kit is kinda lack luster compared to other solo laners he gets bullied way to easy
I have tryes conduit gem on cerb 2 times and both times i won those games builded hybrid def and dmg build and i was tanky with good dmg to peel those squishys
Any chance you can do a season 8 hades solo build?
FineO, plz can u show this for mages- chang’e / hades in solo, loveyou man
Mage in solo its trash , solo is suppose to replace the support for tanking the tower or the Phoenix , mage cannot do that , espacially when people build them full dammage
@@marctremblay4248 mantle lotus genji on chang’e works fine tho - same for mantle prudwin hades
Im plat in conquest , and every time im against or some one in my team took a mage in solo , they build power item only , i hope ur in a better rank then me because in my helo , mage solo are thrash
Dont play mages in solo it's not any good and its cringe
Tbf warriors are obviously better in solo lane but playing warriors used to be boring asf that’s why I wanted a little fun and started mages I am going back to warriors obviously in this season busted af
I haven’t play a single conquest game as of yet was literally waiting on this
weird
Yes do a tier list plz
Can you do mages in solo lane? Been trying to figure how to start hades in solo honestly...
Healing nerfs and broken auto-attack items killed him pretty bad
I've been trying a lot of different gods in solo. My favorite so far is artio with vamp shroud.
But do u upgrade It?
@@pablonieto5058 yeah I upgraded to bloadsoaked. I was still full health after a 10-15 sec team fight lol I haven't tried sacrificial on her, not sure if that one is even good on her.
Anyone have tips on how to stop building teleport? I always buy it cos I’m worried about dying and not getting back in time. Is it about clearing wave and pushing up and then backing once you’ve done that?
its called push your wave and tele right then.... or plan ahead... push your wave knowing full well the solo laner is going to steal ur tower when you rotate but u rotate anyways cause you know u can take that mid tower and get 2 kills and still make it back to defend your solo tier 2. Throwing towers to win a lane or kill a titan is all part of the grand plan... maybe ur losing solo and duo needs a gank... your jungler has been trash all game.. start doing its job and gank and roam... defend lanes... dont challenge any lanes or towers without friends... unless you a see a team fight accounting for all the enemies letting you split push and steal a tower or phoenix while ur team defends or wipes... then blames u for not being there cause they are trash and think team fighting constantly is how you win... while also not having the smarts to bait the enemy closer to your base so your team is constantly pushed up like jack asses not even hitting towers.. or rotating lanes just snow balling mid like complete morons...
So guess what you steal that phoenix and say your welcome in vgs when they ping you cause they all died in mid to that team fight instead of playing under tower as a unit...or roaming as one. while u tele back and defend the titan or kill theirs... or steal fire giant with a ward and wipe them all by yourself... cause you waited till they all got low health and ulted them and dropped your whole kit on them last second... bam MVP who needs a tank or carry or trash jungler/mid or even that dumb ass support that never leaves duo and does it job and actually supports the team after 5 min into the game instead of casually stealing xp and gold from carry all game. whenu can make plays like that just by being good..
@@theonetruth1478 dude...are you okay?
So let me get this straight, they're taking the flat damage reduction off of warriors axe, but not off of manikins scepter?
dafak warrior axe is already udnerwhelming. warrior blessing used to give flat dmg reduction + u stole health AND mana
@@GamingDualities blessing never gave FDR lol
@@zkdm9125 Did it not? I thought it did but it was a VERY long time ago
It’s bonkers
Yeah but they’re decreasing the power of manikins, it won’t be as strong
Do you think animosity ao kuang solo is viable?
No it’s a cheese thing, and it doesn’t work on structures anymore
I love Warding Seagull
Im really loving Tyr blue stone he’s absolutely cracked.
Tainted Steel is also good on Wukong, if say you're in lane with a Hades.
Cerb with tainted steel upgrade that steals heals and rod of asceples is what you’re looking for. Have fun
@@chekerz123456789 you already told me, I'm in to different things.
@@bigmoe9856 oh shit hahaha my bad. I’m still stuck on the same like 5 or 10 broken manikins gods lol
Cu chu wasn’t even in the top five or honorable mentions for solo last season now he’s number 1, just crazy how people are now playing him so much now.
Cu chu was good last season too though..
Is Achilles just a general build or anything special?
Like wukong
Achilles: Warriors axe, Warrior Tabi > Shifters (switch to tank stance) > Ancile > Void Shield > Mantle > Sundering Axe > boots for Brawlers or Dominance.
@@kriegaone3658 thanks bro appreciate it
Anyone give some advice for a Horus solo?
Wait so you don't take any boots on ratatoskr?
No, his acorn is his boots