Cruiser : Okay, rocket ships, glad DDs are the first one to be attacked by the carrier. Wait why did it ignore the DD? *gets attacked in citadel* Cruiser : *_CV NERF CV TOO OP_*
@@wethepeople6422 indeed, but this update gave a little breathing space for DDs, because almost every CV is german, so no real danger for them :) I hate DDs
They're Ju87C's... By the construction of which, almost every Jerico trumpet had already been removed from Stukas. They almost drove their pilots mad, and cause colossal drag. They were phased out and replaced with just as effective whistles mounted on the bombs. Meaning the Pilot could disengage withought the deafening roar to deal with, ontop of any panic caused by AA or enemy aircraft. So, they shouldn't really have Jericho trumpets on them anyway :/
This here, right here. This fact alone combined with low plane survivability made German CVs really frustating to play in Asia server if not for its bombers. even more frustating when you play as E. Loewenhardt, since the torps are really slow. All cruisers, the moment they spot those AP rocket planes will instantly go bow in to your planes.
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@@madd3758 I think they are not slower as other nation's, but if u compare them with German tech line obviously they are slower. In NA server once in a while you can find players that barely dodge planes, most of the time is hard hittin as much citadels as Toptier does
TT, I gotta say man, I just freaking love your videos... Every time your video pop-up in my timeline, you make a Brazilian smile ... Kudos from Brazil ! 🇧🇷🤗🤗
Omg that Sims hero @ 12:13 .... After torping from backline and hitting you he wrote in Chat " Boy how stupid are you - open your eyes" xD But after a quick look @his stats i understood how that could happen ;) Great Video as always Toptier, keep up the good work!
People like that..... At least he's not playing ranked :P Legit surprised he did not hide his stats xD Edit: Just noticed he was the one who wrote "fail team u win" into all chat barely 3 mins into the game. noice....
@@theheavytonk928 I send him ingame a message with Gratulations to his overwelming Knowledge of the Game and his fame to be in this Video; link / Channelname etc included :D
i can imagine that the Erich Loewenhardt gets the Enterprise treatment at some point, i guess if anyone is interested intthat CV should realy think about to getting it. also being a T6 it is relative cheap. Edit: one thing i forgot to mention that CV is fast! with Speed flag 37.6 knots
@@ineverexist666 ah thats right... the reason I played this game was to get a Yorktown-class CV... Yorktown herself was removed with the CV rework, along with all other interresting CVs - Esses, Hiryu, Taiho - and Enterprise is unavilable in the shop...
@@gkgameplaycz since CV rework uneven tiers a removed sadly my beloved Hiryu was one of them WG said these CV would return at some point in the game, i doubt it but still have hope
@@gkgameplaycz Yorktown was never in the game though. But I too mourn the removal of the other CVs like Essex, Hiryu and Taiho - all real, historical ships that are no longer in the the game.
do you know what would happen if we made a tier X version of E.Loewenhardt we wouldn't have to worry about smolensk in fact if we made smolensk go back on sale for 1$ there would be no problem ze 109s have it covered
If we compare the German aircraft carriers and the new premium in comparison with the graff zeppelin, then what should be changed in the latter, so that it is not the weakest of the aircraft carriers at level 8, apart from the British prem.
I also have it, yeah its a goodCV the Rockets are the ones of the T8 the trorps are lackluster but still usable the bombs are kinda meh, not particular good or bad.
@@ChickenMukja dont GZ has the aim circle but these are AP bombs and they are crap since GZ doesn´t aim the same way like the rest of german carriers, if they didn´t changed it, also HE rockets
I am still pissed that I missed the chance to buy this, wasn't a cv player at the time, didn't know what I was missing :-( a lot of players would pay excessively for this ship if it was available for a limited time
Can the rocket planes reliably citadel Graf Spee? I'm on the verge of buying this ship for fun and also to use in Clan Battles but it would have to be able to reliably fight against Spees.
2:56.... Jesus Christ. A liiiitle broken, wouldn't You say? Don't get me wrong, I love carriers, but half hp with a citadel? On a carrier? That can be anywhere on the map? That's a lot of reward, for tiny bit of risk.
Wp but u never see so many dumb cruisers keeping broadside to the attack planes like this in random. Most of them are turning towards u and the damage output is clearly not the same. Though dive bombers of Erich Loewenhardt are fun to play.
this is a commercial game now. its no longer funny to see things like this. they nerf the old ships only for sale the new ones. next is the russian cv complete tree
Actually, Genova, Hawkins and Kirov went completely potatoes. Didn't tried to angle at all. And all three were t5 cruisers matched against t8 AP rockets (yes, E.L. planes carrier rockets from Parseval)
I love how you WATCH THIS GUY POTATO...and blame the CV. If a BB had sunk him in a single salvo because he went broadside you wouldn't have said a damn thing.
Both are fantastic, but Ark Royal is better for anoying DDs and BBs, while the Loewenhardt is an absolute CL/CA killer. The Ark Royal Carpet Bombs with a metric shitton of Bombs, so you can do potentially more damage. The Stukas are faster and you almost always start a fire and if you hit the citadel on T5 cruisers, you have 12k alpha, which is absolutley stupid for HE Bombs. Btw, it is spelled Loewenhardt without an Ö, just FYI
@@onG878rr Then you should avoid Saipan. The Planes don't really tank anything, plane regeneration time and amount isn't really that great. You can do a lot of damage with it, no doubt but you need to conserve your planes religiously if you get into a T10 Match, good luck. Kaga, on the other hand, has slow plane regeneration time and HP too, but a metric shitton of Planes you can throw at the enemy, which makes it more beginner friendly. You need to care about AA, but you're not getting slapped for loosing planes.
I bought this ship from watching your videos. WG should kick you back something, we know they won't but they should. Anyways, amazing carrier and, as always, great game play. Carry on good sir.
@@paulnemeth9246 her AP bomber DMG needs to be aligned or higher with/than Parseval since she only drops two bombs. Make the reticle slightly small but not as small as this ship. REVERT THE FUCKING BROADSIDE RETICLE ON ROCKET.
I predict that German CV's will have better upfront numbers but the other big name CV's will have better upper skill level numbers. The reason being, you can't heal back most of the damage done by German CV's and its immediate, so you can't damage control it off. So more skilled CV players will be able to better utilize the damage potential of the fire starters, while everyone else will make good usage of the immediate damage.
This CV is fun and enjoyable. I really like it... But the Kitakami...guys we have serious problems when that ship will playable...yesterday i have battle with 3 WG employes with 3 Kitakamis in group...40 torps/ship...was sick I had decent team and we win, but was Apocalypse Now
I was wrong about this ship. buy it because just see 12200 damage that db said. test some playstyle with it and disappointed. But that was my stupid think. Its actually good ship with amazing rockets, as you can see how rockets hit hard the citadel in this video. HE bombs also good, small circle reticle with good dispersion(still need some RNG). 2 bombs each one attack and 69% base fire chance(about up to MAX 75 or 76%). after some battle my mind changed, its GOOD. Just watch out AA BOOM STICK and bubble. You don't have enough planes to throw. Oh and don't think about torps. If you want to use it, aim the torps little bit far away compare to other torps. Aim BBs likes its cruisers, aim cruisers like its dds. You wanna hit dds with torps? Make a complex maze with slow torps wall. Or just rush to dd with your secondary. Its german. Sorry for long and bad english.
I just bought it on your recommendation. But sorry, tech tree CVs are better. It gives a lot of points but does not have fun. Planes are very weak, torpedoes are too slow etc. I do not like.
@@_koifishpond bruh, they're Deck guns. DD's have better armament than that and for them to even use it they need to surface where they can get ass fucked by DD's.
@@_koifishpond well the Kurfürst will actually have a chance to use those secondarys. For you to use the deck guns on subs you need to surface where you can easily get killed by surface ships.
E.L. is only really good against cruisers, just like the other german carriers. The HE bombers are complete trash and the torpedoes are too slow to fight DDs. You’d really only get this CV for the rocket planes and secondaries.
@@ttier You misunderstand my point. All CVs are retardedly broken. They nullfy positioning and stealth. They can spot and/or attack any ship anywhere on the map without ever risking taking any damage. These facts make them retardedly broken.
@@sergenicolas7432 Learn to read. Ididn't say they were OP. The stats show they aren't, but they are still retardedly broken for the reasons I explained.
I gotta say this, German Carriers and their aircrafts in general looking fkin amazing
I think bismarck might be the protector of that aircraft carrier
Cruiser : Okay, rocket ships, glad DDs are the first one to be attacked by the carrier. Wait why did it ignore the DD?
*gets attacked in citadel*
Cruiser : *_CV NERF CV TOO OP_*
I can hear the bitching already in the forums...
@@wethepeople6422 indeed, but this update gave a little breathing space for DDs, because almost every CV is german, so no real danger for them :)
I hate DDs
Yeah always funny those people forget that they can youse the WASD hack.🤷♂️
@@tob2603 now dds will afraid of torp bombers
@Evan Ren no even bottom tier except lowenhardt but she has he bombers instead
Prob next patch, they will add the stuka siren
I hope so
If thats true, im gonna buy it then xD
They're Ju87C's... By the construction of which, almost every Jerico trumpet had already been removed from Stukas. They almost drove their pilots mad, and cause colossal drag. They were phased out and replaced with just as effective whistles mounted on the bombs. Meaning the Pilot could disengage withought the deafening roar to deal with, ontop of any panic caused by AA or enemy aircraft. So, they shouldn't really have Jericho trumpets on them anyway :/
@@GrasshopperKelly realism is far from being relevant for WG
@@GrasshopperKelly WG doesn't give a shit about history, they now throwing fake ships to make it OP than the original
I love this carrier. The whole kit is very useable, and the planes are incredibly fast for T6. Good vid!
Keep learning how to play on CV TopTier. You are doing better and better.
10:19 love how TT is like: fuck this buoy in particular
Unfortunately in Asian server, there're no silly cruisers like that.
TopTier has a PhD in Face Stupid Players
This here, right here. This fact alone combined with low plane survivability made German CVs really frustating to play in Asia server if not for its bombers. even more frustating when you play as E. Loewenhardt, since the torps are really slow. All cruisers, the moment they spot those AP rocket planes will instantly go bow in to your planes.
@@madd3758 I think they are not slower as other nation's, but if u compare them with German tech line obviously they are slower. In NA server once in a while you can find players that barely dodge planes, most of the time is hard hittin as much citadels as Toptier does
TT, I gotta say man, I just freaking love your videos... Every time your video pop-up in my timeline, you make a Brazilian smile ... Kudos from Brazil ! 🇧🇷🤗🤗
TT doesn't respond to u, untill right now. Lol
Omg that Sims hero @ 12:13 .... After torping from backline and hitting you he wrote in Chat " Boy how stupid are you - open your eyes" xD But after a quick look @his stats i understood how that could happen ;) Great Video as always Toptier, keep up the good work!
People like that..... At least he's not playing ranked :P Legit surprised he did not hide his stats xD
Edit: Just noticed he was the one who wrote "fail team u win" into all chat barely 3 mins into the game. noice....
@@theheavytonk928 I send him ingame a message with Gratulations to his overwelming Knowledge of the Game and his fame to be in this Video; link / Channelname etc included :D
I love this carrier
Now imagine...i have this kind of battles most of the time except that I loose...................... :C
This Is why we cv players don't get nice things hahaha keep up the good work
Digno de admirar
Love your videos. I have learned a lot from your videos when you explain what you are doing.
This guy really captured b with a cv...
Bruh that's risky
Calculate risk maybe? ;)
Virgin border hugging Cee-Vee *VS* Chad frontline Carrier
shes good man i been playing her a lot!
for the aliance
Stuka and Jericho for Graf Zeppelin !
Does the bomber make a siren when it swoops?
no
i can imagine that the Erich Loewenhardt gets the Enterprise treatment at some point, i guess if anyone is interested intthat CV should realy think about to getting it. also being a T6 it is relative cheap.
Edit: one thing i forgot to mention that CV is fast! with Speed flag 37.6 knots
I wasn't following the game much in the past few years... wdym Enterprise treatment?
@@gkgameplayczTry to buy the Enterprise in the Store
@@ineverexist666 ah thats right... the reason I played this game was to get a Yorktown-class CV... Yorktown herself was removed with the CV rework, along with all other interresting CVs - Esses, Hiryu, Taiho - and Enterprise is unavilable in the shop...
@@gkgameplaycz since CV rework uneven tiers a removed sadly my beloved Hiryu was one of them WG said these CV would return at some point in the game, i doubt it but still have hope
@@gkgameplaycz Yorktown was never in the game though. But I too mourn the removal of the other CVs like Essex, Hiryu and Taiho - all real, historical ships that are no longer in the the game.
14:30 Oh, that's hot!
Браво, просто нет слов.
do you know what would happen if we made a tier X version of E.Loewenhardt
we wouldn't have to worry about smolensk
in fact if we made smolensk go back on sale for 1$
there would be no problem ze 109s have it covered
i'd love that :-)
If we compare the German aircraft carriers and the new premium in comparison with the graff zeppelin, then what should be changed in the latter, so that it is not the weakest of the aircraft carriers at level 8, apart from the British prem.
The Indomitable is actually not that weak, really strong imo
Best cv in the game If they made a X one it would be fair to all cvs in the game
cool
Do lexington please!
I also bought one. Fantastic Rockets, Worst Torps, Quite good Bombs
I also have it, yeah its a goodCV the Rockets are the ones of the T8 the trorps are lackluster but still usable the bombs are kinda meh, not particular good or bad.
Master_Disaster for bombs, i really hope GZ follow that kind of accuracy. much smaller aiming reticle really helps me a lot
@@ChickenMukja dont GZ has the aim circle but these are AP bombs and they are crap since GZ doesn´t aim the same way like the rest of german carriers, if they didn´t changed it, also HE rockets
Master_Disaster well i meant that Lowenhart has the same 'circular' reticle with GZ but much smaller. anyways i know what you are saying
@@ChickenMukja The GZ Dive bombers may have a circular aiming reticle but they are inconsistant as fuck you would be better buying a lottery ticket
I was really looking forward to the coal carrier E. Loewenhardt. But it seems it's now dubloons because why the fuck not
What the benefit for her permanent iron cross camouflage
@
So Same as permanent camo
@
Thanks for info
I am still pissed that I missed the chance to buy this, wasn't a cv player at the time, didn't know what I was missing :-( a lot of players would pay excessively for this ship if it was available for a limited time
2:45.. holy molly
Can the rocket planes reliably citadel Graf Spee? I'm on the verge of buying this ship for fun and also to use in Clan Battles but it would have to be able to reliably fight against Spees.
Yes, these rockets citadel cruisers when they broadside like x2-x3 (avg 7-10k dmg). It is defo a nice premium to have.
I'm worried she is going to get nerfed so much. Wargaming can't have you having fun in a german ship
lol amazing
Wesser vs this cv which is better ?
This one. The E.L. At least in my opinion.
This one no question asked
2:56.... Jesus Christ. A liiiitle broken, wouldn't You say? Don't get me wrong, I love carriers, but half hp with a citadel? On a carrier? That can be anywhere on the map? That's a lot of reward, for tiny bit of risk.
Wp but u never see so many dumb cruisers keeping broadside to the attack planes like this in random. Most of them are turning towards u and the damage output is clearly not the same. Though dive bombers of Erich Loewenhardt are fun to play.
"CV's are fair and balanced"
When you are a potato you get punished, that's how german CVs work
nice gameplay
worst nightmare for enemy, high skilled player and german CV
04:11 Agree and also they loves DDs. 11:08 Sometimes I make same mistake when playing with German CVs. Why I don't know. :)
this is a commercial game now. its no longer funny to see things like this. they nerf the old ships only for sale the new ones. next is the russian cv complete tree
I would take a Russian Enterprise anytime lmao
@@theheavytonk928 Neither they had the ships that currently are available ingame.
bee woop
I agree
Loewenhardt feels like playing tier 4
the torps are the worst thing I've ever seen
4:04 lol. 27 rocket hits 17 of them went to the citadel... sounds about right WG :D
come on, even a bot moves better than those guys
Actually, Genova, Hawkins and Kirov went completely potatoes. Didn't tried to angle at all. And all three were t5 cruisers matched against t8 AP rockets (yes, E.L. planes carrier rockets from Parseval)
I love how you WATCH THIS GUY POTATO...and blame the CV. If a BB had sunk him in a single salvo because he went broadside you wouldn't have said a damn thing.
E.Löwenhardt or ArkRoyal, which is better?
Both are fantastic, but Ark Royal is better for anoying DDs and BBs, while the Loewenhardt is an absolute CL/CA killer. The Ark Royal Carpet Bombs with a metric shitton of Bombs, so you can do potentially more damage. The Stukas are faster and you almost always start a fire and if you hit the citadel on T5 cruisers, you have 12k alpha, which is absolutley stupid for HE Bombs.
Btw, it is spelled Loewenhardt without an Ö, just FYI
@@SoaCrow kaga or saipan??
@@onG878rr How good are you at CVs?
@@SoaCrow beginner.
@@onG878rr Then you should avoid Saipan. The Planes don't really tank anything, plane regeneration time and amount isn't really that great. You can do a lot of damage with it, no doubt but you need to conserve your planes religiously if you get into a T10 Match, good luck. Kaga, on the other hand, has slow plane regeneration time and HP too, but a metric shitton of Planes you can throw at the enemy, which makes it more beginner friendly. You need to care about AA, but you're not getting slapped for loosing planes.
WOW !
I bought this ship from watching your videos. WG should kick you back something, we know they won't but they should. Anyways, amazing carrier and, as always, great game play. Carry on good sir.
Pissed off the nerfed the GZ
The Cruiesers Biggest Nighmare - I've gring 200 000 EXP for 10 hours! GERMAN MONSTER!!!
tier 6 have more accurate rocket and DB than tier 8 GZ. :( now GZ only have great secondary gun and meh torpedos
Ik they really need to buff the gz it’s in a terrible spot rn.
@@paulnemeth9246 her AP bomber DMG needs to be aligned or higher with/than Parseval since she only drops two bombs. Make the reticle slightly small but not as small as this ship. REVERT THE FUCKING BROADSIDE RETICLE ON ROCKET.
It's been nerfed now
4:02 easy kill
More vid about manfred pls
I predict that German CV's will have better upfront numbers but the other big name CV's will have better upper skill level numbers. The reason being, you can't heal back most of the damage done by German CV's and its immediate, so you can't damage control it off. So more skilled CV players will be able to better utilize the damage potential of the fire starters, while everyone else will make good usage of the immediate damage.
Макаронник был наказан и унижен :D
This CV is fun and enjoyable. I really like it...
But the Kitakami...guys we have serious problems when that ship will playable...yesterday i have battle with 3 WG employes with 3 Kitakamis in group...40 torps/ship...was sick
I had decent team and we win, but was Apocalypse Now
Laszlo Hodosy the problem Is that we will have so much fun with that ship :D
I was wrong about this ship. buy it because just see 12200 damage that db said. test some playstyle with it and disappointed. But that was my stupid think. Its actually good ship with amazing rockets, as you can see how rockets hit hard the citadel in this video. HE bombs also good, small circle reticle with good dispersion(still need some RNG). 2 bombs each one attack and 69% base fire chance(about up to MAX 75 or 76%). after some battle my mind changed, its GOOD. Just watch out AA BOOM STICK and bubble. You don't have enough planes to throw.
Oh and don't think about torps. If you want to use it, aim the torps little bit far away compare to other torps. Aim BBs likes its cruisers, aim cruisers like its dds. You wanna hit dds with torps? Make a complex maze with slow torps wall.
Or just rush to dd with your secondary.
Its german.
Sorry for long and bad english.
The bombs are really good at hiting Citadel on some CLs, where you do the 12k alpha, I killed an emerald that way in about 2 Mins into the game lol
Do for ryujo DB please 🙏😁
I just bought it on your recommendation. But sorry, tech tree CVs are better. It gives a lot of points but does not have fun. Planes are very weak, torpedoes are too slow etc. I do not like.
Wesser or E.Loewenhardrt ?
The AP rocket too strong in game same tiers
Seems like your prayers worked this time
Subs need deck guns
Subs need to never come into public game
@@_koifishpond bruh, they're Deck guns. DD's have better armament than that and for them to even use it they need to surface where they can get ass fucked by DD's.
@@_koifishpond deck guns won't make them better.
@@_koifishpond well the Kurfürst will actually have a chance to use those secondarys. For you to use the deck guns on subs you need to surface where you can easily get killed by surface ships.
am fine with subs getting deck guns, rt after cvs get depth charges
Gj, nerf is comming.
nerf incoming.. as always
E.L. is only really good against cruisers, just like the other german carriers. The HE bombers are complete trash and the torpedoes are too slow to fight DDs. You’d really only get this CV for the rocket planes and secondaries.
I'm a Cruiser i give anti DD and anti Air support. Cruisers in WoWs i only spamm HE and fire.
1:41 this can happen when Wargaming introduce retardedly broken ship classes. CVs ruin the game.
this is all the player's fault, he would take zero damage if he turned a little bit
@@ttier You misunderstand my point. All CVs are retardedly broken. They nullfy positioning and stealth. They can spot and/or attack any ship anywhere on the map without ever risking taking any damage. These facts make them retardedly broken.
And that's why EVERY player plays cv, because they are so op. So EVERY player wins when they play cv. That's a well known fact.
/irony off.
@@sergenicolas7432 Learn to read. Ididn't say they were OP. The stats show they aren't, but they are still retardedly broken for the reasons I explained.
@@stuartthurstan learn to think positively. If there is a red cv, there is a green one.
Perfect example of how cv ruin this game...
Perfect example of how whiners like you refuse to learn how to play...