GamerGate 2: 2 Woke 2 Furious - A Dose of Buckley
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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A look at the sequel that no one asked for... no, not another Call of Duty game, it's GamerGate 2! Social Media's most antisocial are getting frothy over learning about a company named Sweet Baby, who is making games "woke"! Buckley discusses why he never talked about the first GamerGate, and wonders if maybe, just maybe... everyone should try to just enjoy the hobby they spend so much time screaming about online.
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In case you missed it: Last week I released a video, and I believe RUclips is throttling it for a word in the title (which is unfortunate, as it was my most popular feature at one point). OR, maybe it was just because it was Easter and you spent time with your families that it got so few impressions. ANYWAY, enjoy this Musical... REVIEW... of "Ye's" latest song - ruclips.net/video/5hXXzHslr-U/видео.html
The algorithm heard you praise the production and you paid the iron price for being on the Ye side
Hey well done video. It seems either you haven't researched what any of this dumb sequel no one asked for is about, or you know EXACTLY what it's about and made grade A satire. I'll give a TL;DR cause there isn't a Gamer Gate 2 just people who are doing exactly what you said to.
>People looked into why Kill the Justice League sucked, Learned about SBI, the changes they make to games and that it is beyond narratives and researched the CEOs own words from her own speeches
>A Brazzilian guy named Kabutus Rambo made a Steam Group called "Sweet Baby INC. detected" listing all games SBI has worked on with proof links and a do not reccomend.
>An employee from SBI asked on twitter for his followers to report and flag his account and attempted to contact Steam to get them to revoke his Game Licenses. This didn't work and the employee was banned on Twitter for Targeted harassment of Kabutus Rambo as well as doxing him.
>This caused a Streisand Effect where people learned about this group and what was going on and joined because they notices SBI is associated with poor quality writing, character art and game design
>For some reason these ESG consultant groups are desperate to hide their involvement and the changes they make because gamers are "Picky Babies" (CEO of SBI's own words)
>Upon digging into other consultant groups hired to secure DEI/ESG black rock low interest rates (That is a rabbit hole in its self, but is very real) and then people discovered that the Dept. of Homeland Security was specifically funding these groups, research studies, and targeting gamers as domestic terror threats via the DHS grant numbers (Specifically Take This game research).
>However rather than focusing on threats like the Cartel using mobile games to recruit children as drug muels they were studying "Racist" and "Sexist" gamers as potential terror threats. People were upset by this waste of tax payer dollars to label them terrorists.
>Once this was discovered, every "Game Journalist" wrote hit peices ignoring the Kabrutus Rambo starting point spinning everyone upset with poor quality products of consultant group interference as racist sexist terrorists
>People then dug deeper and discovered a corporate push to revoke licenses to games and end phyisical media. Why? For woke point? Nope, plain old corporate greed and control over consumer behavior. A good portion of this backlash has been directed at this vision of the future where you are sold a license and get it pulled whenever a company wants to sell you a remaster 2 years later.
So the end result. A bunch of gamers got mad their tax money was funding spying on them and labeling terrorists. PR groups (Paid by DHS grants and Tax payers) paying for dying media to write hit pieces and call people wanting to be informed and not buy poorly made games. Media declared it gamer gate 2 and called being talked about and made fun of behind their back "harassment" while ignoring their own behavior.
There is no Gamer Gate 2. People are done giving money to people that hate them and make crappy games.
Somehow this is "harassment". Some how this is Gamer Gate 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO!
White guys chooseWhite guy avatars, except when they hit 50 and go online, then they are 13yo girls
Just run a scam and RUclips will promote you. RUclips loves scams so much. But don't you dare say no-no words.
Adoseofbuckley only 2min in and you have failed the whole thing.
You have shown that you do not even know what is going on.
Go take a breath and actually look at what is going on instead of blindly following.
Racism is not ok and you are promoting racism here.
You are promoting people who have said they hate gamers while working in games.
6:47 It has from this debacle shown that there is a massive amount of games doing these things it is so common that most are.
Also using the 13 700 games on steam is kinda dumb have you seen the broken mess the games that are released there?
No you have not
Buckley's insults towards xqc never fail to make me laugh 🤣
From a language perspective, I think it's so fascinating that Nixon (American president in the 70s for those outside the US) screwed up SO BADLY that his scandal became part of the word to describe "scandal". There is a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to "-gate" controversies.
It's wild and really indicative of how much the powers that be despised Nixon. George H. W. Bush and his cronies REALLY wanted people to hate him
There's a Mitchell and Webb sketch deals with the "-gate" situation.
Personally, I blame news media. After Watergate, the news started use the "-gate" just to make snappy headline titles for any scandal until it just sorta merged into popular culture, at least in North America.
There's an alternate universe where fellow president Warren Harding's Teapot Dome scandal became the term for scandal and we got such classics as "Gamer Dome"
@@Penguinmanereikel I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a legitimate campaign to dilute the word. There are many words that are purposefully being diluted nowadays, in the interest of misinformation.
Por ejemplo, I'm very wary of the term "journalist" now. I respect legit journalists and journalism, but if Tuckolding Fetish Carlson can claim he's a journalist, people are purposefully shitting on the word.
It's crazy how Boogie became the character he was always pretending to be for "satire"
Something about dying and being a hero and living long enough to be a villain
@@liammcnicholas918 I loved that movie. Too bad they never made a sequel.
@@Erichwanh(you didn't like Rises?)
@@Penguinmanereikel Heh, I'm going to be completely honest... I do like Rises considerably, I even saw it theatrically. I just felt that it was too easy not to make that joke.
Most characters are just extensions of a man. As we've seen, Francis was always deep within Boogie, but he shrouded it to present himself as life's protagonist. Once the facade began to crumble...oh boy...
Twitter is the worst social media app I've been on. People talk crap about Instagram but it does not compare to the garbage on Twitter not even close.
Truest thing ever said
So glad to have deleted it.
To be fair, Reddit gives it a tight race for the title. The place feels like you should be wearing a hazmat suit while scrolling 😂
Twitter must do something to humans on a physiological level, just look at Jordan Peterson; he was once cogent, mild-mannered human version of Kermit the frog advising young men to clean their rooms. Now? He is a mentally fragile husk that starts Twitter beef with a toy worm.
Whether Elon owned it or not Twitter or X was horrid.
I didn’t get a refund for Forspoken because I was forced to play as a black woman, I refunded it because the writing was bad and the gameplay wasn’t fun.
THAT’S why you should hate a game, not because of the skin color or “diversity” of characters in video games
Always nice to see a real hater at work 💪💯
They've soured the word diversity, the average person is sick to fuck of hearing it, they're actively creating and encouraging racism by demonizing white people and pretending like it's normal, american and canadian culture is literally a laughing stock across the rest of the world because from the outside you're all turning into cultists for diversity
Damn I was really interested in this game based on how it looked.
Was it really bad writing?? I mean *50 Shades* level of bad lol
I think the worry for many is that as firms like sweet baby and pressures from investors continue to diverge from the actual desires of the average (not every) player, that more and more games will suffer from bad writing as the stories have things that otherwise wouldn't have been in them forced in for the sake of inclusion. the more focus gets forced on something that a dev team didn't want to make, the less it gets put on things like the actual gameplay or the deeper meanings and character developments of a game. to be clear, I haven't played forspoken and Im not talking about that specifically here so much as the second part of your comment. I agree that if you're going to hate a game it should be for the shitty gameplay and story not the diversity. the only problem, or at least the fear for many, is that as we force devs to put more DEI in their stories, the more the rest of the game will suffer as a result. Buckley had a valid point that things like micro transactions and inflated budgets, and corporate oversights are far bigger problems in the industry. I just think a lot of people are already calling that out and they're well known issues. Some people are simply warning that another big issue is around the corner and we need to be careful before the camel's back breaks
As a black woman, I agree. I watched someone do a quick rundown of the game and it just didn't really interest me. The way she talks to her cat also is weird 😅 (it would've at least paid off if the cat turned out to talk back, but otherwise, it just makes her look like a "crazy cat lady", lol). And the banter with the bracelet sounds like a poor man's attempt at...what was it called, Wheatley? The robot from Portal 2, I think. The bracelet clearly was supposed to be a character like that, but the dialogue just didn't seem as funny and felt too try-hard.
I'm on board with most of this episode, buuuuut:
A lot of the people who buy microtransactions (mts) are being exploited. Specifically, neurodivergent people and people with gambling problems are extremely susceptible to gambling purchases in games. These are not people with the money to spend on these mts, as some of the largest spenders on these mts live around the poverty line.
Additionally, you have children who do not fully understand the concept of money who take their parent's money and throw it away on mts. Yes, the parents should be more careful about hiding their wallets or lending their cards, but at the same time, they shouldn't have to worry that they are going to lose thousands of dollars to a video game.
So, yes, people do buy mts, but it's not always bc they are making a well-informed choice on a sound mind.
You are 100% correct on that sentiment! Worse yet, some games like Tekken 8 try to hide that crap until later on all on purpose because they know it's worse for optics on their end, yet they do it anyway! (On that note, hope they enjoy them ruining their own service in the process with the fans that wanted it at the time.) Microtransactions especially are ruining gaming a whole lot more than any sort of "woke" shit ever would.
yeah, I've spend way too much on mt's when in actuality i didn't have the money for it. switched to an old brick phone for a while to get "clean"
You have a choice, you know.
I don't usually play multi-player games that usually push microtransactions, so I've thankfully not been affected by this (though thank you to the comment in this thread about Tekken 8. I haven't bought it yet, but now I might rethink doing so), but my biggest issue with MTS are the way they seem to stiffle the playability. They have created barriers to getting through games without spending money, or if playing online, many games have it that the one who spends the most money for the most gear is the one that will regin supreme. You're punished for not wanting to spend real money on digital items, thus pushing other people out of playing the game.
@@KaiserInGilroy2K Since you can't seem to read I'll reiterate my point: people who are susceptible to manipulation aren't making an informed choice.
Think about it this way: if you put booze in front of an alcoholic, are they really making a choice when they take it? No, their brain doesn't function properly when it comes to alcohol, and has created an addictive need when it comes to it. It doesn't matter to them if the alcohol will hurt them because their brain tosses out rational concerns.
People with gambling problems have the exact same issue when you place gambling-based MTs in front of them. Their brain creates an irrational need that overrides concerns like "is this actually something I need" or "do I have the money to spare for this expense?"
This isn't a matter of gullibility. Gullible people can learn, but people whose brains literally don't work the way neurotypical peoples' do struggle to do so, and it's unethical to exploit that for cash.
This is why children aren't allowed in casinos, as they cannot make the properly informed choice about the value of money that is required to safely gamble.
I'm certain other commenters have made this point, but man alive, you could do an entire video of Boogie and only scratch the surface of the hypocrisy and bullshit that he is.
Holy shit I did not expect to see you here. I watched your reviews back in the day, sometimes I’ll still go back to be entertained.
I hope life is treating you well!
Dude! Glad to see you’re still around! I was a big fan before you retired the channel
There is a whole documentary about him on youtube.
Coverkillernation in a Buckley comment section is the crossover we didn't know we needed
Oh hai Mark, been a while since I bumped into you on youtube
>Based in Montreal
Quebec being anti-racist? What the fuck?
The world has been shattered!
We can all agree that we want gaming to go back to how it was.
A finished, polished game
Great stories and gameplay
Great characters and character development (regardless of race, gender, etc.)
Game devs who actually care about making games.
Less MMOs and more single-player games
The ability to play a game offline or not signed in
as someone who hates playing games online/with others, THIS. i just wanna play by myself. why does every game ever need you to be connected to the internet at all times and pressured into playing with others. gaming should be unwind time.
@@2cat4life Hell, I'd LOVE if more games had multiplayer similar to Elden Ring; Asynchronous gameplay mostly (with the ghostly figured, bloodstains, and messages), with optional, active multiplayer (Summoning, PVP colisseums, etc).
I don't even mind additional content via DLC and/or patches, as long as it's polished content.
Honestly, though, it just saddens me that so much in the way of Western Game Dev, and AAA-Dev as a whole, has fallen into the culture war bullshit.
@@SashaTheQwaser yea if people wanna play with others go for it. but like not every game needs to be multiplayer
also theres no culture war its just people being mad about shit that doesnt fucking matter. wah gay people exist. who cares
I think the issue for me is that bad games come out but people will attribute all of the games problems to the inclusion of characters or developers of a protected class.
@@SashaTheQwaser yeah if people wanna play multiplayer like that or not go for it but they shouldn't be the only games on the market.
also there's no culture war, just people whining about shit that doesn't matter. waaahh gay people exist. who cares.
tbf Suicide Squad sucked for having both a shit story and shitty gameplay
let alone the Live Service approach they decided to take
Same with Stellar Blade. It just goes to show you that just because the main character looks like a porn star, doesn't mean the game will be good. In fact, it's been shown numerous times that it can be bad as well. There still hasn't been a successful game with a female protagonist, even Metroid is struggling.
@@AngryGrape1337 Horizon?
@@totalmetaljacket789 Are you saying there are porn stars that look like Aloy?
@AngryGrape1337 What are you on about? Metroid has been incredibly successful since the start. The Switch has given the series new life. The original Tomb Raider series was successful. Stellar Blade has been a huge success.
@@coltonwilkie241 Stellar Blade a huge success? Are you sure about that?
Even 4-yr-old Baby Buckley looked done with the world.
One critical piece that's missing is the disingenuous behavior of the company, and the whole reason why this blew up.
One user on Steam made a list of games the company was involved in. Cringe, but whatever. The company then made a public condemnation about that relatively unknown list in a fit of outrage. That got the spotlight put on them and also unearthed a ton of incredibly poor behavior, like actually fostering a culture war.
Case in point, there is audio from a conference where one of the people from Sweetbaby speaking was encouraging developers in companies to threaten the companies they work for to hire Sweetbaby or else they would leave. Not "Be more inclusive or we will leave", but to hire Sweetbaby specifically to do it.
No one should lose their minds over the option of pronoun selection in Starfield, but I think being upset at the company and the things they have been doing is completely justifiable, even if a lot (though not all) of the outrage is also coupled with anti-woke nonsense.
I think it'd be worth a deeper dive on this one, Buckley, because it goes deeper than reactionary anti-wokeness.
Yeah, the entire reason "Gamergate 2" exist this time is because SBI decided to try take down a extremely small steam group with like 28 users that tracks their games, not because people are overly angry about "wokeness" or whatever.
They Streisand Effected themself into "Gamergate 2".
Once the alt right is all too eager to "help your cause" review your life choices. This is not about anything you wrote, but to keep being angry and rebrand sexism and racism as criticism.
@@akosbarati2239is it possible for SBI to have done something negative or manipulative, or are they categorically innocent no matter what?
Sure, the alt right will love to try and co-opt anything they can for clout. That doesn’t automatically invalidate legitimate criticism of a company. Otherwise an alt-righter could simply declare “we love XYZ thing” so as to push you into decrying that thing without thinking.
Yeah, I was hoping this would get mentioned in the video. To me the controversy isn't the supposed wokeness, it's the company's actions, especially in regards to that Steam list
I will agree that this behavior from the company is shitty and a scummy thing to do. I will not, however, align myself with the “anti-woke” crowd in any regard. That much I refuse.
I don't disagree with you but I do think you missed one aspect of what you're saying. Violent video games don't make kids violent because the violence in the games were a bit over the top. Most kids don't have access to rocket launchers, anyway. Plus, everyone from your parents to the older kids at school warned you that if you get violent, someone gets violent with you. Lose/lose. But putting homosexual agenda stuff in video games doesn't have that same push back, and thus, lacks balance. The media is telling you that being gay makes you special, and what kid who hasn't been indoctrinated with anti-gay propaganda wouldn't consider being gay if it meant being special? It becomes a slippery slope. That kid could potentially put himself into harmful situations, or even do psychological damage to himself. Ya know, just like gay people used to have done to them by society 60 years ago. It's not good no matter who it happens to.
This is a stupid argument. I'm a millineal who had a "girlfriend" in 5th grade when kids traditional mimicked their parents or relatives who are married by playing house. It wasnt meant to be serious but a game based on our imaginations. We didn't suddenly become sexual deviants because we could pay a prostitute for sex in Grand Theft Auto 3.
I have friends who are parents of younger Gen Z kids or Gen Alpha kids. Video games doesn't turn them gay. They have their own preferences of who they are attracted to seperate from games. They dont view gay people as special or media attention on gay people as a way to be cool. They just see as another form of romance between two adults aside from their straight parents. Gay video game characters don't draw their attention. Its the characters fighting skills, personality, clothing or special powers that make the kids want to play as that character. Anything about sexuality is just background noise.
Kids arent as stupid as people like you believe. They are capable of learning and understanding and arent as easily programmable as you claim. Adult figures in their life have a greater influence on them or a RUclipsr/Social media influencer or a musician/entertainer has the ability to mold a kid. Not a fictional video game character's sexuality.
Since Buckley never said what this week's video will be about, I ended up dreaming that he did a 45 minute video on Meghan Trainor's music! 😆 In the 11 years I've been watching, this is the first time this actually happened.
jeez, but boogie sure went of a deep cliff right into a ravine of insanity.
All in the chase for clout and money
totally not predictable /s lol
Only for views
I played BG3 as a Female Tiefling. Because she was hot.
Same, and still love Karlach
@@sykode Karlach is best girl
Always thought people who made themselves in games were weird.
You're experiencing another world, why not go all in and see it through another's eyes?
@@Nersius sometimes I'll make a character to be me because I want to visualize MYSELF in that world, sometimes I'll make a character to be someone else because I want watch their story unfold.
Based, tbh
The issue with GamerGate 2 is about a Brazilian who made a Steam page that lets you know what games are made by Sweet Baby Inc to avoid buying. SBI workers and CEO decided to try and get said Brazilian banned and when people started to look into their history, it turns out they're raging racists and sexists. As for gamers wanting to play as themselves, you need to see how many white straight men play as blue skinned girls in WoW. That and the many anthropomorphic animals that people have been playing in video games.
ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxZKm8LmSGxJIDOcymOXXDa9qen3jNmoW7?si=fUH8Ur0kUNXeeDKT
"being racists and sexists" is probably the oldest fallacy in the anti-DEI book. Classic strawman fallacy.
@@wotintarnation8388 "being racists and sexists" is probably the oldest fallacy in the DEI book. Classic strawman fallacy.
As a straight white male, I don't give a shit what race I play, as long as they're written properly.
Finally someone with a brain
Which is a pretty common opinion. However many modern writers seems to think a non while male character is inherently perfect and anyone that doesn't like them is a misogynistic Nazi.
I wish the conversation was about writing and not another wave of bitching about made up culture wars. It drowns out legitimate critique.
Eh.. want good writing read a book.. games are for playin'
@@saulabbott-atchison6660lazy argument. Plenty of games have great stories/ great writing.
what do Sweet baby Inc do that a game's writing team can't do? I'm not sure how an external narrative development team works.
The idea, in theory, is they review the script to see if it feels like it's offensive or not, a fresh set of eyes, perhaps from an actual minority, so they can say "yeah the black characters are well written" or "it's clear these writers have never met an actual black person in their lives". The idea behind hiring a consultancy firm for any job is just for them to make recommendations, and then as a company you decide if you want to use those suggestions or not.
@@ADoseofBuckley Who made them the representitives of "actual minorities"? And their suggestions are offensive to actual minorities like Spiderman 2's spanish incorrect grammar speaking made on purpose (not that they care about)
If said consultancy firms were a recommendation and you do not have to accept anything they say as gospel, Microsoft and co. wouldn't threaten not to publish your games unless you hire those firms. It's all for the sweet sweet ESG score. We got checkboxes to fill.
Same thing happening in Disney where the massage and representation is more imporant than the writing, resulting in low quality products like Antman 3, Thor 4, The Marvels, Eternals. Also other projects like Forspoken, Saint's Row, Suicide Squad, Redfall, Gotham Knights, and so many other examples, with huge budgets and losses in all of the entertainment industry.
@@IsraDevilEternals aint low quality. That movie has issues but the writing team worked very hard on the script and filming wasnt rushed. Those other Marvel films you criticized. Yeah... those films were rushed and put together in a lazy way with gigantic budgets resulting in a low quality product.
I just love whenever he represents us as attractive women in his videos.
Not gonna lie, we damn cute.
I understand and support creators monetizing their videos, but it is so, SO nice to have a channel where I'm not bombarded with a 1-800 Contacts ad every 5 seconds
Not gonna call you "ignorant", but it's ironic that some of the points you make towards the end are what recent trends are bearing out. 'If it bothers you, play the older games.' Retro market's only been gaining appeal, and recent data and remaster frequency bear it out. 'Don't like it, vote with your wallet.' That's what ultimately motivated the anti-SBI curator page's creation: consumer research. People want to know what they're paying for.
You're not ignorant; you've done due diligence in cursory research on an unfamiliar subject. You're just a little behind the curve on the issue.
he is ignorant if he thinks it's just people complaining that games have minorities in it. i wouldn't exactly call it due diligence. maybe for deciding not to care about it, but not for making a video on the topic.
He’s kinda justifying SBI
Gamers are hating on woke because they don’t want poc or women in video games
This is far from truth. I’d rather play an all white game with good story than to play a game with diversity and have had writing or worse
People liked GoW which was set in Greece and were all white
Uncharted was my favorite they were all pretty much white. They had amazing diverse characters
Props for being civil
So Buckley's message here is basically: just ignore the crap that doesn't matter and focus on what makes YOU happy. Very good message, Buckley. I feel the exact same way, not just about video games, but also movies. I love horror movies, and literally every single time one comes out that I think looks fun (such as Imaginary, Night Swim, Winnie The Pooh Blood & Honey 2, and more), I see nonstop videos and articles and reviews bashing them to high heaven and already making me feel ashamed to go and see them. But, guess what? I go and watch these movies anyway...and I loved them. The reviews made no sense to me, and just infuriated me that all these idiots keep bashing things and trying to steer people away from things that could easily make them happy and entertained. So, yeah, you really should just ignore what idiots online say, and see what makes YOU happy.
The article writers probably don't even have a strong opinion on the movies they review, angry click-bait is the strongest click-bait.
Okay or directors and creators can stop making bad content or ruining existing ones
*Insert that Red Letter Media "Consume product" meme and calling you a shill*
But for real, feel free to enjoy whatever media you want. It's a free country.
That’s the idea!
The “why do you even care” argument is so dumb. If you truly lived by this mantra then you should just leave them be as well. Just ignore the gamer gaters
It’s kinda sad how so many people refuse to acknowledge how corporate greed has been slowly ruining gaming to the point where they need to deflect all of that anger onto games with non white protags.
Also it’s kinda annoying to see some people use that one comic where it basically just says “well Mexico loves Goku so representation doesn’t matter” basically just pissing away any interesting discussion
corporate greed isn't what is ruining the games. greed just gets them to try to appeal to whoever has the most amount of money. the problem is that the people with the most amount of money, be it black rock or sbi, want them to promote a kind of politics that shoves countless morally righteous propagandists dresses as minorities that call anyone who dislikes them for a whole list of good reasons, including their preachy politics, bigoted just because they are a minority. calling anyone who wants good characters, and who doesn't think anyone who would want a white protagonist is an evil bigot, an evil bigot is just the tactic that these political propagandists want to promote to the dimwits that don't know a thing about the problem. neither side of this discussion gives a fuck about minorities, or representation. one side just uses minorities as a shield to use while pushing their terrible ideology down our throats.
Buckley holds libertarian views thinking we can just vote for better video games
i posted a reply here, yet it seems to have been removed like so many others on this channel. idk why. i think i said something like how it's not corporate greed, but something deeper. idk what i said because it's gone now.
Thought this was about the barbeque sauce for a second lol
Great sauce. I wonder if they're suffering because of this.
Buckley's Top Ten BBQ sauce list when
I don't think you're getting the overarching idea so lemme give you an adjacent example. Marvel released a movie based around the antithesis of their core fanbase. It bombed (HARD) and now the future of their most profitable franchise is in question. Did Endgame bomb? Did Infinity War bomb? Did *_any_* of the Avengers films bomb? So why is it that the entire MCU is in danger of being dismantled because one film in the series, that wasn't made to appeal to the franchise's core audience, did badly? These games cost as much as summer blockbusters in many cases, so the stakes are extremely high. Most studios can't weather a $100+ million dollar bomb (like Forspoken was). Representation is fine, if it's organic. Sorta like the anti-FRIENDS. But you can't take established IPs and play label roulette and change characters into acronyms. How about Naughty Dog turn Nathan Drake into a fat Hispanic trans man with borderline personality disorder and a mean Little Debbie habit. That would be okay, right? It's for representation, after all, and that would cover all the bases! That's my only beef. Spending all that money making a product for an audience that doesn't exist (fiscally speaking) and then complain when it bombs and vow to cut back output on ALL games as a result. The Saints Row bomb *_killed the studio._* I don't see why that's so hard to understand. I don't care about the woke crap because when enough of these megapublishers lose enough money, they'll realize how stupid it all was, pandering to people who *_don't buy games,_* and they'll stop. Heck, that tipping point might have already been reached.
"the antithesis of their core fanbase". That's the problem, that's how people view this. If you're talking about The Marvels, it was a pretty fun movie actually, the singing planet was a little dumb, but it was so much a comic book movie (colorful costumes, fight scenes, plot that doesn't really make a lot of sense if you think too hard about it, little easter eggs for the dorks who actually read comics). It's too bad people go "BUHHH IT WOMEN! NOOOO!"
You shouldn't have used Marvel as an example because Marvel comics has tons of silly lighthearted stories that feature women or women of color. Are these stories good...eh not really but to act like they're the worst stories ever is stupid. Also stupid by you...acting like every Marvel story is on the level of Avengers Endgame. That's stupid. Was Ant Man 1 the same scale and excitement as Endgame? No. Not all stories in the Marvel Universe are created equal with the same stakes as Endgame or the same 3 white iconic characters as Iron Man, Thor, Captain America. In fact in Endgame there were tons of characters who are women and/or people of color. So you are arguing they shouldn't get screen time in future movies but be background characters?
Marvel's issue was the same as AAA video games that Buckley explained.
A. The production for these games/recent Marvel films is rushed and lazy.
B. The budgets are too big and are overly reliant on gimmicks.
C. Too much corporate interference in the creative process that developers/writers go through.
None of that has anything to do with characters of color or female characters getting more screen time. You are being manipulated by the alt-right to criticize the wrong issues of mediocre or average stories so that the alt-right can mask their intentions to control culture and mass media based on their own twisted that right-wing white men should decide everything because they are inherently smarter than everyone else and not woke.
From what I've heard from the critics of Sweet Baby Inc., who are dismissed as GamerGate2, the claim is not that Sweet Baby Inc. made the games bad:
The claim is that based on their online presence, Sweet Baby Inc. is represented by people who are verifiably racist against white people; to the point that they have illegal hiring practices because they choose to not hire applicants because they are white.
Another claim, which I don't share, is that the involvement of Sweet Baby Inc. made the games worse than they could have been. Maybe that is true, I haven't played any of them yet. But foremost the goal is to boycot a racist company.
Also SBI went after an account that mentions any involvement they had with games.
I don't really subscribe to the latter point (I know you say you don't either)
Maybe three of the games they've worked on I'd consider flops (Suicide Squad, Gotham Knights, D&D Dark Alliance) and those all had core game design issues that a diversity consultancy firm is not going to have any control over.
I think it's more if you are willing to hire SBI, you're probably already making a shit game.
It's just a red flag situation
I think the actual important take away from this, is that these big gaming companies are apparently using these kinds of consulting firms from now on in order to help them curate the story of their games.
From a writers perspective, that the story you created is subject to change, not from real test audiences, but from an independent entity that’s deciding wether or not your story “might” appeal to minority consumers… feels a little silly to me. And that’s not even taking into account other departments who just got more work they now have to squeeze into their incredible tight schedule.
If a writer gets told, “you need to add a black person in this story according to these people.” More often than not, I would say that character won’t contain actual substance and will just be there because the writer was forced to put in, which ends up creating a bleh character that appeals to nobody.
I might not be that well educated on the topic, but I feel like video games didn’t really have trouble in being broadly appealing to a wide variety of people. Diversity in video games, especially as an option for the player, is great, but it should come more organically from the people actually making the game, not from some third party company boardroom.
Consultants like this typically exist for the purpose of being reached out to by developers looking for assistance. In a world of EAs, does that sometimes manifest as an executive taking a story draft and forwarding it over with the directive "make this more inclusive"? Undoubtably.
But the situation I'm pretty sure this company was founded for is a game dev going "hey, our character designer came up with this sick design for our black woman main character, can you look over our story draft to make sure we're not accidentally playing into sterotypes?"
AAA studios are gonna do AAA nonsense regardless, but ideally I think a company like this can help devs who are actually trying to tell good stories tell better ones.
Dude... every creative company for all media uses sensitivity reader companies. It helps SELL more games. You'll want to blame directors for implementing suggestions in awful ways. It's all about money, it's always all about money. There is no conspiracy or "real test audiences" they NEVER did that.
No one wants tokenism, but this stort of company doesn't create it. Developers put that in themselves to try to sell more. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY.
@@QuadballStreams "accidentally playing into stereotypes" isn't exactly a factor that would have such a massive impact on the writing quality of a game to the point where you need to go out of your way to pay a consulting firm. At least under the assumption that the writers are good and not bigots. If the writers are bad then hiring this company wouldn't help them all that much and if they are bigots they wouldn't hire them in the first place.
@@Unspecifiedweeb Even good writers have blind spots- Scorsese and his team essentially scrapped their script for Killers of the Flower Moon and started over once they actually sat down with some Osage historians.
And bad writers probably do end up working with these companies in the AAA situations where it's an executive edict. We probably all agree that's what produces the worst pandering sludge that pleases no one.
That’s undoubtedly true, and if they are helping improve stories that is great, but I feel like you wouldn’t hire a company for that, your company would already have an in house consultant, because that cost way less money and way better for developer communication, but i’ve never worked in the gaming industry before so what do I know.
My husband is playing dragons dogma as a white male. He’s even a big guy and always has his character represent his size. Bc he wants too. He made me his pawn and she looks like me!
What I remember of Anita Sarkeesian was the quote that got her a little famous - "When you start learning about systems, everything is racist, sexist, homophobic, and you have to point it all out."
People start looking for that, they'll find it. I do think that forced diversity defeats the original point. I have a physical disability, and I don't care about a disabled character being in a game or not. Frankly, I feel similar to what Buckley says at 3:33 - doing it for the sake of it stinks.
They made a Mad Max game
I do believe that is only half the quote, the very point she was making was that when you *first* start learning about these systems of oppression that feminism seeks to dismantle, you become a bit overzealous. You start pointing out every little thing that is affected by the overall system of white supremacy and patriarchy, and that this behavior is unnecessary and unhelpful. She is essentially exaggerating. When you start noticing patterns of oppression, you start noticing them in places you didn't before, and it feels overwhelming, as *if* everything is racist, sexist, homophobic, and it takes time to adjust, to settle down, and to actually learn useful tactics for dealing with and fighting systems of oppression
I don’t care if a game has only white make characters as long as gameplay is great
I'm of a similar opinion. I'm queer, and while it's always a treat to see queer characters, I think it's important to maintain standards. If you put a gay character in your project JUST to have a gay character, then it feels cheap and hollow. But if you put in a gay character who's fully fleshed out, it feels infinitely more natural.
The reason you don't care about disabled people being in games is because you are normal. Normal people couldn't care less if a character directly represents them. The representation argument is just so people can play victim. Anyone with basic empathy can relate to characters that don't look or sound like them.
I don't care who is in the games i play. I don't care what the character i play as looks like. I just want to play good games. Single player games are still good. Multiplayer games have fell off hard
One of my friends put it nicely: "We should have aspirational characters, not representational characters. Goku is an icon not because he's a transgender afroqueer cripple, but because despite being an alien from space, his goals are very human. He is a paragon of self-improvement, which is something many people can aspire to even if they AREN'T a pale-skinned Wasian space alien that can blow up planets with their pinky finger."
basically, how you should write characters people are supposed to like, find entertaining and maybe even look up to.
Yeah there's a grim undercurrent of writing underachievers as protagonists now, probably because some people felt attacked by a character on a journey of improvement.
afroqueer???
Okay, I'll give you a little context about how this started, and Sweet Baby Inc. kinda deserved it. Well, not kinda, completely.
It literally all started with a steam group of some Latin American dude that didn't like games that SBI had consulted on, and he made the group to show that he didn't recommend the games. There were a few games that weren't consulted on by SBI, and he had missed a few that were. But, anyway, the group had literally 150 people following it and it wasn't really growing. Then, someone at SBI found the group, posted on Twatter that they want all their followers to mass report the group AND the creator so that they can get not only the group permanently banned, but also the creator of the group. Gamers on Twitter saw what they were doing and then went after them. And the steam group grew from 150 people to 250 000 people in a matter of weeks. And the people from SBI didn't let up. They continued trying to get the group banned throughout the backlash, until they themselves started getting banned.
So, yeah, the narrative design and diversity crap is cringe on both sides, but SBI totally deserved all the backlash.
"Touch plastic" What about silicone and I just go fuck myself? I mean, it is a fun time.... lol
In the words of every child imaginable - "They started it!"; which is true, Sweetbaby Inc did start it.
But the problem at it's core is simple, Sweetbaby chose to attack people for not wanting to buy things that they've worked on. The market is free, people can choose to not buy something for whatever reason you want and attacking people for not buying your product is stupid.
Pretty much how all this outrage has exploded more than necessary. The steam group 'Sweet Baby Inc detected' started out with less than 2000 members originally and has accrued 100x more members (340,000+) because of this one employee from Sweet Baby catching a sniff of it, made a tweet to harass/shut down the group and thus causing a streisand effect. What something that would've stay insignificant (which it quite was), has now become every top youtuber hot topic to talk about, forcibly shooting yourself in your own baby's foot. Is equivalent to Sweet Baby Inc going after their customers who leave them bad reviews.
I had my recommendations getting hit with lots of "Sweet Baby Inc is ruining gaming" videos prior to the steam group shit
Allowing corporations to have social media accounts is one of the many follies of mankind.
@@Serphentin My news feed must be slow, I didn't get it until the 'gamergate 2' horseshit went into full swing.
I'd have rather not got any of it at all; view-fishing from online drama is stupid.
It's not much different to people trying to boycott Hogwarts Legacy though, except the creators of that didn't start screaming to have the 'boycotters' banned for.... Reasons? I guess.
With Hogwarts Legacy people were not attacking that game specifically or the developers, they don't like JK Rowling's views on trans people and funding of anti-trans UK charities so boycotted a product she would have been getting royalties from and funnelling into problematic charities like the LGB Alliance who are lobbying the UK government to erode trans rights in the UK. It's really not hard to understand.
I genuinely don't care if other people are enjoying Hogwarts Legacy or buying it that's your perogative it's just a personal choice I've made as I have a major issue with these lobbying groups Rowling is funding to not engage with any more Harry potter media. Playing Hogwarts Legacy doesn't make you a horrible person.
Finally the glass ceiling is broken and the most oppressed group can rise up, gamers
please stand for the gamer anthem
@@whereammyTrololololo guy?
Libshill Buckley with another pro-woke take. You really fell off.
What's it like being so brainwashed by Twitter, you think everything is "pro woke" if it's not completely in agreement with you? Me: "why are you arguing about video games instead of just playing them?" You: "this guy's basically Greta Thunberg!"
@@ADoseofBuckley Yeah, why should we argue about video games which are purposefully being changed to suit a woke agenda? Let's just race and gender swap all the characters because the characters have virtually no meaning other than to signify diversity and inclusion. And if you don't like us doing this, then the natural conclusion is that you must be a racist, misogynist, transphobic etc. Like I said Buckley, you've become a shill.
@@simona.9730 forced diversity and inclusion needs to stay out of video games. Your lot have literally ruined video games.
@@jed123e Cry harder, manchild.
@@jed123e and you have become a moron 🤣🤡
This so-called Gamergate 2.0 is nowhere near as bad as the first one. The Gamergate movement of 10 years ago exposed collusion between game journalist outlets and partisanship between game journalists and independent game developers. A "woke" consultant agency is very minor in comparison. Also, aside from playing the victim, Anita had very little to do with Gamergate.
the problem is that they, along with a bunch of other companies, are strong-arming game devs into promoting a political message, not that minorities exist and are good or whatever, but that anyone who dislikes their shit content is a bigot if it has a minority in it. there is collusion that is directly leading to anti-consumer practices that aren't merely the inclusion of minorities. the same baseless accusations were made about the first gamergate. also, what sparked the "gamergate 2" part of it was when sbi tried to get the guy's steam account deleted just for making a list of their games.
This one feels like a mountain made out of a molehill.
The first one felt like ground zero for a lot of the online culture war of the 2010s/2020s
@@battlep0t it's the journalists that made it a mountain, and it's larger than he is making it out to be, there was collusion found here. my comment was removed, idk why.
my comments aren't showing.
journalists are making it a mountain. and it was more than a molehill.
So basically the DEI consulting companies (Sweet Baby Inc, Black Girl Gamers etc) who write absolute dogshit of stories and characters (Forspoken, Saint's Row, Suicide Squad. Yeah SS was reject mostly for the plot and not for the live serivce since HellDivers 2 is live service and pretty good) are allowed to produce shit quality products for the developers (who are forced to hire those companies by their publishers else they would not publish their games) and they are not allowed to be criticised, or god forbid, make a curation list based on their own websites?
Also they are allowed to attack, harrass, call racist remarks and try to deplatform anyone who doesn't agree with them (That's literally how the whole thing with SBI started)?
Good to know Buckley. That's a bad take.
Don't let failing journos from Kotaku and other failing magazines gaslight you. Gaming was always diverse, even before the whole force DEI movement for ESG scores, forced by the likes of Larry Fink. Vote with your wallet like Buckley said, that's his only good take here :)
I said none of these things. So thanks for proving my point I guess, that people just want to regurgitate talking points about video games, instead of just play them.
@@ADoseofBuckley never claimed you did (:
But the fact you left out important context speaks a lot for itself.
Bad faith was expected the second you said you know nothing about the subject and decided to keep going, while giving false context for some failures like suicide squad and saint's row.
@@ADoseofBuckley much like you did when making this video?
I enjoy when there's real photographic evidence to accompany a story
Buckley, I agree with your point about Infamous! Another game that is in major need of another installment is a new Fight Night. It's been 13 years since a major boxing game came out, but then again, I have little expectations from EA. Best option is to wait for Undisputed to drop on consoles...
It's a real shame thinking of all the intellectual property that companies like EA and Ubisoft are just holding hostage and sitting on that haven't gotten a second chance in 15+ years.
I've played Undisputed on PC. I hate to say it... It's no Fight Night. Champion plays so much better, and yeah, it's a 13 year old game.
@@ADoseofBuckley Right? I never played Undisputed but everyone is saying "omg it's soo much better" but I don't see how tbh. I still run FNC online but nearly rip my hair off every match because the meta is either Isaac Frost spammers or giant power back-step straight spammers in OWC mode
@@DSA.Productions Undisputed is much slower, weird hitboxes sometimes, online is apparently waaaay worse (lots of spammers who figure out one exploit and use it, I still don't think they punish rage quitters, "phantom punches" knock people out because the servers aren't very good, etc), the career mode wasn't really that great in comparison to Fight Night Champion's, it's an ok alternative or distraction from the fact that there hasn't been a great boxing game in over a decade, but it's not the successor by any means.
@@ADoseofBuckley Best to do I guess is the classic "wait for it to get better and buy it on sale." In the mean time, my Wario character has spammers to deal with in FNC
Hang on... this is backwards. The people upset about this ARE the SweetBabyInc employees, not the gamers. SBI discovered a curated list of games they worked with on Steam (which last I looked was more than 8) and campaigned to take it down. The campaign failed and now they're screaming GG2.
Literally screaming, outside their offices a week ago 😂
Did you really imply that people don't like Forspoken simply because you play as a black woman? Geez dude..
He evaded the argument with HIS FREAKIN' MIND!
I mean, a bunch of people cried woke just because there's a black woman in it so...
@@PopxTartxThief I sure there were some idiots to do that, but the vast majority of the criticism I've seen is down to the writing.
@@PopxTartxThief No they cried woke because a bunch lame ass writers and artists that believed they could do better than any writer or game creator ended up creating one of the most insufferable protagonists to play as and literally ended up killing a studio. People that were quite literally diversity hires and had no skill nor any value to contribute.
Focusing on the small number of games out of the thousands released last year reminds me of my mom when she knows I like all different kinds of music. But she gets mad when I put on heavy metal, calling it "devil music" and nags at me ignoring how I'm into a lot of other stuff. Just because there is some violent imagery in the lyrics or the vocals sound gutteral doesn't mean I'm going to go out and kill someone. And if you don't like the way it sounds, just don't listen to it or give other people a hard time for liking something you don't like.
Want to blow your mom's noodle? Have her check out some classic Black Sabbath (Ozzy-era). For anyone reading that doesn't know, Geezer wrote lots of lyrics with sincere Christian imagery. After Forever has the line "God is the only way to love".
I love metal. I hate how people associate the sound of the music with this notion that the lyrics are inherently evil. I saw someone say they would "pray for" Electric Callboy, a band whose (current) lyrics are about as evil as LMFAO.
Buckley fell into the same trap which kicked off the original gamergate.
Sweet baby as a concept is a great company, and its idea of perfecting depictions of other groups of people is something the industry should strive for diversity. The issue comes from the employees of Sweet baby who have proved themselves insanely racist and sexist towards white men (especially their ceo). There are countless Tweets, livestreams, blogs and more of them calling white guys babies, or stating they hate them and more. So basically Great company; shit people running it.
However, what’s made it get called GamerGate 2 is the gaming news media’s response to it; siding purely with on the side of the diverse group (because they’re “obviously” the good guys) and calling the 1 million-large-last-time-I-checked steam group a bunch of bigots without exploring the nuances or reasons of why the steam group blew up (it blew up due to a tweet from SB’s CEO who made a rallying cry to dox the members of the group).
Not to beat around the bush, there are bigots on the gamer side, usually the ones SB and the media cover the most, vocal minority sorta thing, but in truth there are bigots on both sides of the aisles, hence why; GamerGate 2. A very murky grey situation where it gets reported as black and white.
Edit quickly with some corrections:
The steam group currently has 370,000 people in it, not a million. I think my mind added an extra three zeros onto the end of 100,000. That's on me.
Clip of the ceo doing the cis-white-men comparison to babies: ruclips.net/video/GfMsxjWgUbI/видео.htmlsi=CC0DN0LMSOfgJDjQ&t=1099
Tbh, Mudaha (I can't spell his name) of someordinarygamer does some good coverage of the whole situation if you'd like to know more, tho not perfect because he blatantly states "WOW the writing of Suicide squad was bad" while next to it SBI also credits themselves to Spiderman 2: ruclips.net/video/N4p_O9dSJHw/видео.html
Personally; I'm keeping far fucking away from this whole shitshow to be. To me, both sides are in the wrong and right. We need more diversity in the industry, that's something I've pushed for in my small section of it as a Dev, but the way Sweet Baby Inc is doing by basically turning their nose to specifically white men, it's kinda disrespectful and racist in it's own corrupted right. Likewise with the gamers side; The people are standing up to blatant racism, however there is a subsection of them actively trying to crush arguably the most progressive and best force-for-diversity the industry has seen yet, and the destruction of SBI would be a huge blow to Diversity in the industry. Both sides suck. End of story.
Thanks for taking the time to write this, it helped me articulate some of the thoughts I've been having about this whole fiasco
So essentially SBI needs an entirely new team of executives and employees to function as a company in a manner that makes sense.
White straight male gamer here... Almost all my characters if given a choice are female... Diablo 4 for example 4 of my 5 are female... Maybe I just prefer to look at female characters because I'm a boring straight white male.
So how does this video feel after the whole, SBI trying to extort a Chinese Game Dev thing, Followed by the IGN hit piece.
Also there is some correlation between "woke" stuff, and investors interfering. Its some weird BlackRock Brownie point investor BS, its why a lot of publishers hire companies like SBI because it gets them more good boy points with investors.
That doesn't refute anything
@@tompossessed1729 What does it not refute? SBI asks for money, Company refuses, then suddenly a bunch of articles come out saying that the devs are sexist, with the only source being a mistranslated forum post taken out of context. There are plenty more examples of hypocritical articles from main stream games journalist. Its fine if they want to make their own games, its another thing to alter pre existing franchises to fit their agenda, and its a completely different thing all together to out right condemn the creation of certain games they don't agree with. Especially when they don't want to hire you to work on their project.
@@FyreKaiNiHe point if video games don't make people violent and same applies to woke non of it matters also woke games do horribly so what the point of get outrage at it.
@@tompossessed1729 Because its not just about woke games performing good or bad. That's my issue with this video, it actively chooses to be ignorant on the subject. If they wanted to make their own games, while we made ours it would be fine, and this is ignoring the whole making pre-existing IPs "woke" thing. I'll point to Sony's hypocritical content policies for what it does or doesn't allow on its platform, and how what it allows correlates with positive articles from mainstream journalist, and how games that don't tow the line correlate with bad articles. Stellar Blade is the most recent example, outfits were advertised as looking in a particular way, prior to release it was getting articles on how the game is sexist, then it comes out and the outfits are altered via a patch. People are angry, and all the ones who opposed the way it originally looked tell us that it doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter then why did they change it? Meanwhile Baldur's Gate 3 (Which is a great game btw, so don't get me wrong), gets praise from some of the same outlets and journalist for its sex scenes, while hypocritically condemning Stellar Blade. And Stellar Blade isn't some one off anomaly, its not even my worst example I could bring up, but its the breaking point. Just look up PS4 Visual Novel Ports and how they are censored on PlayStation but not Nintendo. And those still aren't my worst example. And I do understand that Sony can decide what they do or don't want on their platform, but the enforcement should be consistent. Why is once game out right banned despite not being nearly as bad as the one with a Motion capped sex scene in it.
You're not forced to take an investment. You ARE obliged to pay your contractors.
Not what this is about, just like how the first gamer gate wasn't about misogyny. Nobody really gives a shit about diversity if the games are good. This is about the fact that one dude made a community on steam pointing out the games that Sweet Baby Inc are involved with and then Sweet Baby Inc tried to get the guy banned from steam. So it's a "little guy" trying to destroy the littler guy story. And like everything these days it turned into a culture war pissing match fueled by disinformation which you just contributed to. Other than that great vid!
Of course gamergate was about misogyny LOL y’all sent a hellstorm after a bunch of journalists for suggesting that video games might not be so positive in their representation of women 💀💀 how do we now have an entire decade of hindsight and you still don’t realize this??
The littler guy in question got his feelings hurt over a fucking rainbow and black people, and started flagging games they were involved in. Gamers are such fucking losers dude 🤡
Except Buckley's main point was get out the culture war bs and figure out which games to play that have a quality story and quality game play on your own. Its pointless shouting into the endless void that is the culture war on the Internet.
You know, it's hilarious how Buckley says he knows nothing about the topic yet he spouts the generic talking points of one side to a T, but then misrepresents the other side to the exact same degree. Look, it's okay if you have a bias, but at least be up front about it.
And before anyone asks, what Buckley so "ignorantly" didn't mention was that the knowledge of Sweet Baby Inc. existing wasn't what kicked off the firestorm. People had known about them and other like-minded agitprop groups for a while. The start was when a Steam user created the SBI Detected group, which simply looked at places like Wikipedia, IMDB, and SBI's own website and listed the games they worked on. At which point one of the leaders of SBI began to harass the guy on social media, directed his follower to harass him, and then told people to flag the guy's account with Stream, so he would lose his account (i.e. lose access to all the games he bought). THAT is what kickstarted GamerGate 2. Not just a bunch of commies doing commie shit - that's been going on for 10+ years.
Pro tip, if the top search results are Reddit, 9gag, the Steam community page, and not any major news website, then something is way off. Harvey Weinstein also has antisemitic haters or Republicans who hate him for being a Democratic donor, and not for the things he was convicted for
Anyone who uses “commies” unironically should never be taken seriously.
I feel like something is also missing from this version of telling.
@@datmilkyman424 No, far left leaning ("commies") usually do like communism. In fact we should bring back McCarthyism
@@datmilkyman424 Just because you can't understand that things like "critical race theory" and "intersectionality" is just Marxism with race, gender, and identity coats of paint doesn't mean it's not happening. Though I'm sure you think anything to the right of the most milquetoast republican is an unironic nazi.
I'm glad I know so little about this new GamerGate 2: Electric Boogaloo nonsense.
Gamergate 2: Electric Boogie2988 it seems.
Where does that "Electric Boogaloo" phrase everybody puts at the endd of sequel titles come from?
@@NotoriousLightning Breakin' 2, a really cheesy 80s breakdancing movie.
Electric Boogaloo sounds like some EDM version of a 60's dance.
Next one would be : Electrica Salsa 😄
This all came about because someone made a list of games that worked with Sweet Baby and then Sweet Baby went all whiny about it. The point of the list was so people don't buy those games. It wasn't the people who followed the list who made a big deal of the list.
Why are people making lists? Why are people just brainlessly going "I no buy game if it on list"? That's really weird behavior from people who are turning around calling other people "sheep".
@@ADoseofBuckley You made a point in the video about "using your wallet." That's what people were doing but I guess that's not really your point. You just want to use that to make the people following the list seem unreasonable. Also, I'm not a white man and there's been many people who are not white and not men in video game journalism arguing against Sweet Baby but I guess that doesn't help your narrative either.
@@ADoseofBuckley didn't you literally say for people to vote with their wallet ?
They don't want woke ideology in their games so they decided not to support games that perpetuate this ideology. That was the point of the list.
@@MilociniaFor these games "created" by SBI, there was a huge influx of Negative Steam reviews, which is thanks to that list. And to even make a review in the first place, you'd have to play and purchase the game after a certain amount of time.
So does that mean these players HAD "used their wallet" for them? Why express their grievances just now?
@@Xfire05 So you think that people bought a game and liked it but because a list came out saying that Sweet Baby, an organization that many hadn't heard of, worked on it they all suddenly, for no reason, went and gave bad reviews?
Sweetbaby has been called out multiple times for being racist
The work Sweet Baby does in games: ignorable.
SBI attempting to silence their critics through false flag campaigns and being openly racist and sexist in their hiring policies: the actual problem.
I respect your opinion on the topic Buckley, but like you said in this video, you're not familiar with the entire issue at hand. The whole image that "white male gamers" are raging online against SBI because they're against diversity is just false. An example of that would be Mark Kern. He's an ex-Blizzard oldhead that actually worked on the good games from back then.
The reasons people are upset is because this shit runs deep. There's a clear connection between developers, journalists, media outlets and even government. Agendas are being pushed. The journalists who currently write about games are not being honest. Something to remember is that this situation started with corruption in games journalism and people speaking out against that. That is why Anita Sarkeesian is hated. The current "gate" wasn't started by gamers. It was started by someone named Chris Kindred. When people clapped back is when this whole "angry white male gamer" thing was pushed again. I can assure you there's plenty of diversity in those ranks. It's honestly way too much to cover in a comment.
Long story short, there's way more to this deal than what you've covered. To think this is some "angry white male gamer" thing is just wrong.
I like how there are two people both arguing for the same side but one is saying "there's plenty of diversity" and the others are saying "those people don't play video games".
I think one of my favorite things to come out of this whole kerfuffle are all the people talking about some of the games (like Alan Wake 2 or Spider-Man 2) in ways that make it painfully obvious they haven't played them. They're not even trying to hide that they've created completely different games in their heads just to be mad about them. It stopped being offensive a whole ago and crossed over into comically absurd.
The fact that these "gamergaters" still maintained their grudges for 10 years really tells you how sad their entire fiasco becomes.
Not only just them, but the other side of it would keep invoking GamerGate's name for no reason which is also annoying as hell. Now it feels like my eyes will never be free from the name.
And they use that real article of “wokeness leads to depression”
Trust me it's the same Situation in the Anime Community involving Vic Mignonga and Funimation.
We did not hold a grudge for 10 years. The employees at sweet baby Inc. started a harassment campaign over a Curation list on Steam and games journalists deemed the backlash as “gamergate2”
The fact you think "Gamergaters" held that grudge for 10 years shows you have no idea about the discussions or the issues.
i just want more representation of the Australian bowl cut mullet, now that would make me feel right at home.
Sounds like the next setting for far cry
@@HYBRIDZHQ maybe i'll send a picture of me then hey. The next setting is in Alaska if i'm not mistaken.
I would like to say that the line "otherwise based on Norse mythology" is really the insulting part.
There are already black characters in Norse mythology. For instance, the "Svartálfar" are a thing, which literally translates to "Dark/Black Elves".
Now, as with most things in this mythology, we don't know enough to be able to describe skin color. Also, it COULD be a synonym for Dwarves, but then again, we don't know what they looked like either.
Point being, you don't have to "otherwise" this, implying that the concept of characters with dark skin is somehow alien to Norse mythology.
PS: Is this gonna stop me from playing/enjoying the game? HELL NO! The fact that video game execs have no idea what they're talking about is about as old as gaming itself.
The upside of this sweet baby, whatever your perspective, is that Mario could never be touched because he's part of the most oppressed group, an italian
Mario could never be touched because Nintendo would never hire a consulting firm. Nintendo will absolutely never allow anyone to tell them what to do. Not fans, not consultants, no one.
@@ADoseofBuckley so that kid saying his dad worked for nintendo and did whatever he wanted was a liar? My world is rocked.
@@ADoseofBuckley Although Nintendo of JP doesn't bend the knee to what someone says, Nintendo of America does. NOA just had a job listing for localization of JP text requiring that the person understands DEI. Hoping that whatever Nintendo game you play, it ain't localized to be woke, cuz if it is learn kanji or else the story that the writers wrote will be changed just because NOA has to bend the knee.
@@ADoseofBuckleyThat and Nintendo is a Japanese company. All the “woke” games that Sweet Baby worked on are from North American/European studios
Yeah your COMPLETELY off this one Buckley.
This whole thing started when a Steam user, Kabrutus, made a Steam Group called "Sweet Baby Inc Detected". All the group did was list what games SBI had worked on. If it ended there then shit would of blown over and nothing would of happened. BUUUUUTTT someone at SBI felt that posting a list of what they worked on was "Harrasment and desparagement", even though Kabrutus and the group to this day dont say whether they are for or against SBI, the group simple lists what SBI worked on, its about as apolitical as you can get.
So SBI harasses the user, reports them to steam, even tries to infiltrate and dox the Discord group memebers. So of course the Streisand effect kicks in and this shit explodes into a major story. Also "gamers" arnt the ones labeling it GamerGate2, that would be the Journos. If you look at their writings for the past 10 years every time they need a boogey man for the bad going on in gaming they bring out GamerGate and beat it like a dead horse. Most of us that where watch GG occur in the first place had moved on after about a year to a year and a half. Its the Journos who cant let it go as it does two things. It gives them a boogey man to point at and it drives engagement on their articles.
Soo yeah Im just going to say this. IF you arnt going to know the full story, and its ok you dont and its ok you dont care, then dont talk about it. Casual takes are kinda how the world got to the shit situation we are in. People with zero knowledge or interest in somthing thinking there thoughts should have the same weight as someone who is deeply invested and looked into a situation.
exactly. this didn't start off because diversity in gaming but because big companies try to shut down their critics. It's corporate tyranny masquerading as progressivism.
Have you actually joined and read what's written in that steam group? I have.
Idk if it's been purged yet but I read *a lot* of awful things in there, ranging from "these game devs are delusional" to "I wish we could just kill all the gays, then we wouldn't have to hear about them anymore".
Moreover, I saw ZERO pushback to the comments that were more on the insane end of that range.
I'm not sure if that employee who spotlit this steam group did so before or after these deranged comments were made and if they did so if/when the group was more innocuous, then sure SBI is partially at fault as well, but there are very very understandable reasons to report the group (or at the very least specific members of said group).
@@jiv3o275 Must of been a surge. I know kabrutus reason for the group was simply pointing out which games SBI where involved in.
I also wouldn't put it past people who side with SBI being those posting the nasty comments to try and get the group canned. I know Kabrutus does try and keep it cleaned up, but now that it's exploded to 200k plus people keeping track of all the worst in the group isnt a easy job
@@memnarch129 "I also wouldn't put it past people who side with SBI being those posting the nasty comments to try and get the group canned."
I mean that's just ridiculous. No one is a simp for SBI and no one knew they were even a thing until people started doing stupid shit like that steam group.
The idea that those awful comments were made by "the other side just pretending" makes me think you might be like 2 steps away from believing that all the jan 6ers were actually antifa or the CIA or whatever other nonsense conspiracies that a minority of people unfortunately believe.
@@jiv3o275 it works *because* it's ridiculous. thats how false-flag operations work, if i were to throw frilly hair bands inside your car, and due to that you get into an argument with your partner, they would never believe you that some random person just tossed a hair band inside your car. when the far more plausible answer is you cheated. people just prefer plausibility over possibility.
It's all Ms Pac-man's fault. She drew first blood.
Which is funny because Namco made Ms. Pac-Man for that very reason -- to get more women to play. And it worked.
@@TheGameCapsuleMs. Pac-Man eats all she wants and never gains an ounce. Every woman wants to be her.
I'm dead lmao 💀
Methinks there was no Ms.Pac-Man. It was always Pac-Man with alcohol in his system and being his true self after all.
Well, Marge Simpson said that Ms. Pac Man struck a blow for women’s rights.
Buckley really ignoring 90% of the Sweet Baby inc content being related to its employees trying to shut down a Steam group for merely making a list of games Sweet baby participated in development in through twitter lynch mobs wich backfired.
Sure. That happened.
A) the group exists still. B) I talk about it in the video. I said the group is dumb too. Don't make a group. Don't join a group. Play Spider-Man 2 and think for yourself.
TBF, Buckley admitted he wasn't as educated as he should be to make a video on the issue.
@@ADoseofBuckley Maybe I lost my hearing but you definitely did not talk about the group beyond a token mention of its existence. The 300k group wich wich was like 10k people before the employees started that Twitter thread wich got them and the company clowned on. People were not only making fun of a million dollar company being concerned about a 10k steam group but also wondering why they wanna hide what games they work on. Thats what the group was quite literally just stating wich games the company worked on by using the games credits and Sweet Inc website themselves. I really dont know anything about Gamergate cause I wasted my youth getting angry at League but you really took the most shizophrenic take possible on this by taking making fun of a company as some sort of culture war.
@@agreatmanlookingtotheright It's interesting that every game on that list has negative reviews now. You don't think maybe that group was made to try and target them in some way? Anyway, again. I don't care. I DO NOT CARE what consulting company works on a game, and you shouldn't either. People shouldn't be joining groups. And no, people shouldn't be trying to dox the creators of those groups. Again, the WHOLE POINT of this video is that none of this is "playing video games". Play a game. Do you like it? No? Don't play it. Yes? Great, play more of it.
Can you do a video on the world economic forum? I'd love to hear your angry humor and comments about them.
Why would he? He'd expose Larry Fink saying that behaviors have to be forced to change, which is why we see a push in DEI to increase ESG scores of publishers
Stay angry everyone
I'm a black women and if I can make a character I am typically a black women, but I watched this while playing Borderlands 3 where you can't create a character. I'm playing as Amara who is clearly designed to be a dark skinned Indian women. I did not gravitate to her because of her skin color and genital configuration. I chose her because in Borderlands 1 I played Brick, the giant white guy who punches things. In 2 I played Krieg the giant straight white guy who punches things, 2.5 Athena the small lesbian women who punches things. Amara is the melee character. I gave no shits about what the character looked like. I just like the melee characters. I've never played a game like prototype where Alex Mercer a straight white guy was the protagonist and been like... ew. How dare they.
Though to be fair I also wrote off the Saints Row reboot after the trailer cause I saw the characters and went... yeah they're gonna fuck this up. Not because of diversity, but because they clearly looked like how old people think young people look from clickbait facebook post. It wasn't that bad shockingly, but game did suck lol.
Buckley I had no idea this was even a thing!
Lazy research, lazy video. Congrats you're the same as all these MSM journalists.
Shut up
It's not lazy. The point is, why are you reading that journalism? Why? Stop. And then it stops existing. What's your favorite video game? Play it instead.
@@ADoseofBuckley You made a video about a certain topic and didn't even do your due diligence to research about it. All you did was enter words in Google. Are you an NPC? Because you certainly act like one.
@@mesicek7 you’re definitely a virgin
@@mesicek7are you a Moron because you certainly act like one
"Just don't play the games if you don't like them"
I mean... that's exactly how that all got started, isn't it. Guy makes a steam group to show which games SBI worked on. Employees of SBI noticed and took to twitter, asking people to report the group.
I honestly don't care about diversity or representation. I do tend to choose brownish skin colours if I have the option (I'm pretty white), but it's not like I'm going to not play a game just because I can't make my character look exactly the way I want. I'm CERTAINLY not going to stop playing a game because I can make my character look different to what I want. The mental gymnastic required for that are quite mind boggling.
I will say, though, if your company starts attacking people on twitter because they don't like your work... you're in the wrong. Of course, the internet being the internet, it quickly escalates on both sides, but you started that shit, you don't get to complain about it.
"Don't play games if you don't like them" doesn't mean "Don't play games because they're on a list and you can't think for yourself, you just follow lists". EVERYONE involved in that list, the people who made it and the people against it, are bad people. Sorry, but that's how I feel.
Did you just assume my gaming input peripherals?!
Gamergate 2014, gamergate 2024... what delights will gamergate 2034 have in store?
All I know is that Gacha gaming will finally be dead after that, no more Vtubers, ShiftUp goes bankrupt, and sex in gaming is no more just the way I like it.
@@AngryGrape1337 OK, puritan.
@@Scrinwaipwr It really doesn't take a puritan to know that sex never sells. Literally every gamer ever will know that.
And what's wrong with wanting Vtubers to not be a thing? They're like wiggers but with anime characters, that's why we hate them.
Let's review what happened since Gamergate 2:
- SBI still exists
- Stellar Blade failed
- AssManGay-er I mean Asmongold gets mocked relentlessly along with Hasan Piker (You do NOT want to get lumped in with a nepobaby, nepobabies are just below Vtubers)
- Gacha gaming remains a joke of the gaming community (I mean, Nikke? Cuck Frontline? Seriously?)
- Western Gaming still continues to sell "ugly women" despite all the stamping feet of neckbeards, while games with "sexy protagonists" keep dropping like flies
@@Scrinwaipwr It doesn't take a puritan to realize that sex never sells.
Just look at the recent Stellar Blade and how it flopped, even the devs had to fully censor all the outfits because of the backlash the game got.
Just goes to show you that gamers are getting sick and tired of sexualized female characters.
@@AngryGrape1337 As someone who knows a lot of gamers I can tell you 100% that that isn't true. Gamers aren't some homogenous hive-mind. Different people want/play different games and want different things out of them.
"Sex never sells" 🤣 good one, you should work in advertising(!)
The whole videogame consultancy thing is a massive grift. The people telling devs/publishers that videogames are "problematic" are the same ones being hired to "fix" them.
ALL Consultancies are a grift. If a company knew how to make a successful product or service, they'd just make the product or offer the service.
GamerGate was sparked by a game dev sleeping with the people reviewing her game. It was about integrity in gaming journalism, not "protecting the gamer identity", whatever the fuck that means.
he got his news from wikipedia. anyone who knows anything about gamergate or wikipedia should know why that was the single worst choice he could have made, especially when the other side actually has proof for all their claims.
@@davidlewis6728 I'm still confused as to what the other side even wanted out of GamerGate. One side wants integrity in games journalism, the other side wants...?
@@imastuffedgoat7615 i figure the only thing i can say that isn't mere speculation on that front is that it isn't what they say they are in favor of. if i had to guess, control. they call anyone who vaguely criticizes them bigots and tries to discredit them with it, meanwhile they get favors for promoting ideologies that, apparently, large corporations like blackrock are interested in supporting. it was a shock to gamers when they found it in games journalism, but as julian assange said, the problems they found extend to the top of the media complex.
9:01 the comment in the "comments in the background whilst putting on a childish voice to make them look silly" is actually pretty reasonable and a common opinion though. There's isn't half as much outrage when a character is decently written, has a purpose or is in a good product. No one was raging about Phoenix in Top Gun, the reaction to the GTA 6 trailer has been overwhelmingly positive despite having a female lead contrary to the 'woke' opinion that Gamers simply hate wimin and minorities being in their games.
I feel like I've seen plenty of people upset about GTA 6's main character, including a bunch of transvestigators trying to determine bone structure. People were also upset at the beach scene, complaining about too many overweight people (I saw some people comparing it to Infinite Wealth's beaches, full of skinny white and Asian people, despite it taking place in Hawaii, where you'd definitely see some larger people).
To play devil's advocate, I do think there is merit in what people think of a game. I kinda don't like the idea of spending my hard earned dollars on something unless I'm confident I know I'm gonna enjoy it
Modern triple A games are like wine. You don't drink wine before it aged at least 3 years, so mature video games too. If you still haven't lost interest than that game is good. Yes, Bethesda games are the phyloxera of vinoculture
Gamer shouldn’t be mad at a game for being WOKE they should be mad because the game sucked
well... yeah, that's why most of us are mad. almost all games touched by that company became more shit or lost their vision
Yeah but woke games and shit games venn diagram makes a near perfect circle
They're nearly one and the same at this point tbh
@@gleipnirrr Buckley literally showed the list of the games they’ve worked on and most of those aren’t bad, and their involvement is minor. How is God of War: Ragnarok bad? How are Spider-Man 2 and Alan Wake 2 bad? Gotham Knights’ writing is literally the best part of that game, and Sweet Baby doesn’t do gameplay. The only game you can claim is actually bad is Suicide Squad. Y’all literally don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re using Sweet Baby Inc in the same way you use words like SJW, DEI or woke: a buzzword for something you don’t know anything about but don’t like anyways.
@@lmgesus Do they really though? Most of the complaints I here about "wokeness" in video games are over minor details. If that ruins a game for someone, that says a lot more about them than it does about the game. Ironically, that's what Anita Sarkeesian was doing 10 years ago, but with video games being "sexist".
Pretty sure no-one, black or white, played Forspoken.
Dude, high level employees within the company tried to have a guys steam account deleted for compiling a list of games they worked on. Whether you care about the input they have on games or not feels entirely irrelevant to the fact that people who represent SBI were trying to throw their weight around in an ethically dubious manner and the blowback they received is totally deserved. The whole concept of ‘Gamergate 2.0’ is just bs being highlighted to draw attention away from that.
We don’t care
I've came to a point where I just don't care. As long as the game is great in what it delivers and the characters/writing is well done. That is all that I give a shit about these days.
I am so glad that I barely engage with these weirdos online. Both sides are truly the pinnacle of toxic.
I finally got to a point where I have straight up blocked all game journalist sites andnshit like that. Really anywhere that talks about games beyond "hey this is coming out."
I didn't get the girl in God of War thing, but then I finished the game and continued on with my life. It never broke the game for me.
The only thing wrong with Starfield is that it feels unfinished and missing parts of the overall story that ought to be there, especially when it comes to Starborns and Unity.
Forspoken didn‘t bomb because you play as a black girl, it bombed because they rely on too big maps with barely anything to do and what you get to do is highly repetitive and becomes boring fast. Also, the dialogues are cringe as it has bad storytelling. And to make it clear, I completed the game 100% (all collectibles). Not because I liked the game but because I paid for it. Had I known before, I wouldn’t have bought it. I won’t buy the next game if they make a part 2. Also, they promised a better game in the trailers.
The issue with sweetbaby has more been related to the people who work for them than the company itself. 1 of the guys started a hate compaign against a discord group that simply listed the games sweetbaby worked on, then cried on social media about the hate he was getting. shit like this is what made this situation blow up, not so much the woke stuff
The problem with the whole “don’t like it don’t buy it” mentality is that I’m pretty sure the vast majority of people who complain about micro transactions already aren’t buying them anyway. It’s the dumb casuals and normies who just want the latest shiny skin or whatever idiotic rap dance emote, and don’t know or don’t care what kind of horrible business practices they’re encountering. So yeah the only possible recourse we is to complain vocally about them, in hopes that devs stop putting these things, or other people wise up and stop buying them.
I hate microtransactions, but it's bizarre to think that a company will willingly stop making millions or billions just because some people are shouting in twitter.
@@yourguykhonshu3972 the idea (hopefully) is to complain loud enough so that other people will perhaps reconsider and stop buying these micro transactions
@@yourguykhonshu3972 palworld and helldivers are reasonably priced quality games. they showed everyone how to make a profit without being anti-consumer about it, but fifa is lazy and has a braindead audience, so companies will continue to pump out shit games. we will always have retro games, but i like it when new games are appealing to me as well.
That's exactly what we are doing, voting with our wallets. And we are being called racist for it. Or, as of late, "thin skinned". And SBI does have a track record of making games more shit. Just look how well the games that they worked on fared in reviews and sales. And that's before anyone ever knew that SBI even existed.
As for GamerGate, it's not SBI making games shittier solely in order to check diversity boxes, it's the issue of having the entire game jurnalism industry behind them, ready to jump on anyone who dares to criticize them, and tell them how they are guilty of wrongthink. The exact same issue that was brought to light 10 years ago.
The people who delcared "all gamers are dead" are the very same people writing the new "gamers are racist/homophobic" articles. The whole thing has come full circle. Videos like this one, bless Buckley, but he's completely skirting the main issue here.
"look how well the games they worked on fared..." Alan Wake 2, God of War: Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2 all sold well and got plenty of praise. And no one's being called "thin skinned" for the passive act of not buying a game. They're being called that for actively joining groups that tell them what games not to buy.
@@ADoseofBuckley That's when they were consulted, not active part of the development, as oposed to Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad, or South of Midnight (which was confirmed to have dropped a ginger headed white main character for the stereotypic half shaven race switched version with a scoldy face and a shave in the eyebrow). The fact a japanese company such as Squere would make such an americanized product like Forspoken when they were forced to hire consulting groups such as Black Girl Gamers is telling enough. Everything has to be modern, homogenized and appealing to the USA in an imperialistic fashion. Failure to complay will get you attacked like we see by the journos in a comeratively tame fashion on their failing websites and full on displayed with vitriolic racist tantrums on their personal social media (which started the whole """movement""" against SBI). Then again, it's not exclusive to game developers, it's also everywhere else in the USA thanks to BRIDGE (check Social Impact's website).
@@ADoseofBuckley bro, the CEO of SBI is the woman who said "go to the higher ups, and if they don't want to hire us, take them out for a coffee and terrify them into hiring us". They are literally employing scare tactics in order to be hired to poison games with agenda. Not because games need agenda, but because *they* need agenda in games. Because if people realize that games can be made without any agenda (and they are slowly coming to that realization, look at Stellar Blade), they will also realize what kind of useless hacks SBI are.
I don't want to be that guy that you complained about at the start of the video, but regarding this subject, it's 100% true. You have barely any idea about the subject, you should dig a little deeper before making a video about it.
@@ADoseofBuckley "got plenty of praise" means nothing, considering said praise is given by the same gaming journalists who are in cahoots with them, a fact proven by the first edition of Gamergate, while this newer installment only showed that nothing has changed in 10 years. Oh, and let's not forget that all 3 of these sequels underperformed compared to the previous ones. I wonder why...
I suppose you don't know who the CEO of SBI is, that she is a woman recorded saying that the employees should "terrify" the gaming companies into hiring them, i.e. using scare tactics against companies in order to get hired to poison the games with agenda, not because games need agenda, but because *they* need games to have agenda, since if people realize that games are better without agenda (and they are more and more coming to that conclusion, just see how well Stellar Blade is doing and how these woke "journalists" are frothing at the mouth because of it), everyone will come to see them for the useless hacks that they are.
Oh, and speaking of journalists, it's becoming ever more clear that the age of "gaming journalists" who can't even play through the tutorial of a game has come to an end. Investors have been silent for a decade, but now that they can see how much their wallets are bleeding money on OpEd's and anti-white propaganda pieces that have nothing to do with games, they have put their foot down. They are in full damage control mode. Hell, IGN even issued an apology regarding an article on Stellar Blade which said "the main protagonist is a sexualized doll designed by a person who has never seen a woman", which, even ignoring how insulting it is, is first and foremost factually incorrect since the character was modelled by scans and mocap of a South Korean model. That woman literally exists in real life!
In conclusion, I hate to be the one whom you complained about at the start of the video, but in this subject, it's 100% true. You know next to nothing about what either Gamergate or Gamergate 2.0 are about, and you should have dug way deeper before throwing your badly informed opinion about it.
Ehh I disagree, I think most of those games sucked specifically for the writing...they just weren't good..
Otherwise I do agree with you.
Boogie hasn't died yet? I though he was gonna have blow a blood vessel years ago..
I want to appreciate Buckley for calling Twitter Twitter and not Ex.
Everyone knows what Twitter is, no one knows what X means
Fr, people need to stop stealing my last name
@@JasonX909 Malcolm " feels ya.
The one time it's acceptable to dead name
@@justaghostinthesea ?
the funny thing about microtransactions is it's actually not a ton of people spending some extra money. it's a small handful of people spending a shitload. wild stuff.
I mean... this channel effectively survives by a small handful of people spending money vs 96% of viewers who never will. So I get it, and I think that's what a lot of these companies have figured out. But I also understand that they need to make these things less predatory, figure out a cap, SOMETHING. NO ONE should be spending $1000 or whatever on EA points to try and get some special digital card they want, which won't even be useable in a year or two when they shut the servers down for the 2024 version of the game.
Yeah, "whales". It's nasty as fuck that publishers have dumped so many resources into designing microtransactions to be perfectly balanced Skinner boxes that'll get just enough people hooked that it's wildly profitable. The people who get hooked tend to be miserable, trying to fill a void, much like addicts. Some of them even ARE addicts, like gamblers.
1:27 Please, allow me to say, that you have very nice hands, Mr. Buckley.
I don't think my hand appears in this video. I pretty much entirely use stock images.
@@ADoseofBuckley Oh, I though that the gamer on the right side of the screen was you.
The problem is also the fact that of the games people know, it's clear that sweet baby inc had next to no real power. Ragnorok has a black character, yes, but her being black has 0 story relevance, she's not even human, she's a joten, a race of mythical giants, so they don't have to adhear to realistic skin tones for their 'region' because they don't even live on earth. Infact the dwarf with blue skin has more story relevance tied to his skin tone then the black teenager who plays as a love interest to the second lead character.
Spiderman 2? it takes place in a major city, turns out, major cities are pretty diverse in america given it's called the melting pot.
suicide league kills the justice squad? find me a single bit of forced diversity? Every character choosen is already a major part of DC and is the same gender and race they've always been. Deadshot's been black for awhile now if not having always been black, harley's always been a woman, captain boomerange's always been australian. John stewart isn't the only green lantern but he's not by any means a new green lantern and is infact more well known as a leaguer then some of the other green lanterns.
Now sweet baby inc in particular has been aggressive in being about forced diversity, hypocrisy, and so forth. Infact if Buckley knew just how they where acting he'd probably make an episode largely in the vein of 'this is how stupid butthurt babies handle criticism' But buckley is right, the gamers spending all this time getting butthurt about included diversity are spending time they could be gaming, being angry at games they weren't going to play vs picking any game they would play. To put it simply, voting with your wallets is flat out The, Best, Play. Because if a company like sweet baby inc wants to go on a fucking self-destructive rampage about how they intend to effectively delete white cis straight males from gaming then let them, don't buy from them. Because that kind of behavior burns bridges. When the majority audience is White, Straight, Cis, and Male (and in many cases most if not all of those) then acting like they need to be eradicated or punished or whatever poor word choice SBI and those like them make, it will make game publishers less likely to work with them.
Stop referring people as "cis," it is completely unnecessary and was a term coined by tumblr feminists.
@@GoneFishingAway It's Latin Just like Trans is.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf No it isn't. Nobody wanted to be called "cis."
@@GoneFishingAway
Cis: a latin prefix meaning 'on this side of'
Trans: a latin prefix meaning 'on the other side of' Used in works such as Trans-portation, Trans-plant, Trans-istor. All things ab out moving something from one location to another.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf I do not want to be called "cis." I don't conform to that ideology, and neither did I, and many others want to be called that. Especially when this community tries to attempt to make it as an insult referring us as "cishets."
Cuckely when you said you didn't know anything you should have just stopped
No, that's when you should have started to really listen
Sometimes, when you're in the thick of a heated discussion, it's good to get an outside perspective, Buckley is that outside perspective
It is a bit silly when people look at games like God of War and call it "Unrealistic" because there is a black character
The only thing I'll be bothered by the company is their logo. Like can you pick anything then a baby looking loli pop with that symbol.
It is a weird logo (and name). When someone first told me "have you heard about this Sweet Baby controversy?" I was like "I'm not putting the words "Sweet Baby" into my Google search. No."
@@ADoseofBuckleyIt was Epstein's name for his private jet.
This video reminded me of Panda Bear's Good Girl/Carrots, specifically the last verse in which the 'carrot' is us, much like the case with music journalism in 2000s-early 2010s indie, a lot of these blogs were pursuing to push certain artists for the scene to become definitive but the most smug had similar tastes, which birthed a pretty good anti-Pitchfork basis by calling these folks 'cultivated'
The most controversial thing Buckley has said in a while is that he's beaten the Saints' Row remake. That game blew chunks for plenty more reasons than just the crap writing.
It also killed the developers of the franchise.
I love your message at the end. Especially towards Gaming Journalism. I say that because yesterday I played South Park Snow Day and honestly I didn’t get it right away because there were a handful of RUclipsrs that were saying it’s not that great which the one that was a highlight was IGN. They had given it a 3/10. Not sure why but the game is super fun. Sure it feels like it has its limits because of how much little time was worked on it but it is fun. I did find myself enjoying it ☺️
Well, When Buckley said he didn’t understand Gamer Gate. He was telling the truth. And concerning your last comment Adam. YES! There are literal documented cases of people dying as a result of “D.E.I.” In fact, in their honor we should just call it “D.I.E.”
There are not "LITERAL" documented cases. Please be sure to watch my video "The Literal Butchering of the English Language". Thank you.
@@ADoseofBuckley Oh Look! A “Literal” example. Maybe you need to rewatch your own video. Or maybe learn to use English properly.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse
I think my biggest takeaway from this video is that Boogie is still alive. Figured he'd have had a heart attack or two by now
He's been throwing a pity party for himself on Twitter claiming he could die tomorrow (or he could die in 20 years). Then he locked his Twitter after claiming he's got a thick skin and nothing bothers him. Also someone claims his weird looking girlfriend (that everyone calls him a pedo over, she's legal but she looks 16) left him, but I don't know if that's true.
The funny thing is that for the past 30 years I've played as a pink or blue haired female character in most rpg games I've played, Am I just an outlier.