Post-election govt talks | Questions raised on formation of Government of National Unity
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- President of the United Democratic Movement (UDM) Bantu Holomisa along with the leaders of five other political parties wrote to the Chief Justice, urging him to mediate negotiations between parties with the aim to forge a government of national unity.
Bantu Holomisa and BOSA President, Mmusi Maimane now join me for a discussion.
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Mr Oliver Dickson is a fantastic presenter, professional and eliciting information with brilliant inputs and questions.
Well said gentleman, respect for constitution important.
The citizens of South Africa voted and expressed their wish to have the current status quo. This therefore means that members of parliament are entrusted with responsibility of discussing the way forward for South Africa. This has nothing to do with judiciary. Who's and past problems should be put away and forge a way forward.for South Africa.
Much respect for General Holomisa. Humble and straight forward.
This comment is at the wrong place 🤣🤣
"Separation of powers" you can't involve CJ into politics discussions
Thank you Mmusi Maimane!
ANC still thinks they are incharge
but they are. They will decide the way forward. They can choose GNU or go with DA only, or go with EFF + PA. They can also decide to push MKP aside. This is the reality. ANC will always come up tops in all ths scenarios
ANC has 40% who gave Anc mandate to be organising coalition?
Let’s vote again or let’s use results slips to get genuine results
they have the power to chose any one , they can choose da and no one gonna challenge that or team up with eff and pa ,like dude they can choose anyone they like
Oliver you did well by inviting leaders of smallernyana parties to hear their views...but can you also invite leaders of biggernyana parties like rise Mzansi n PA even if they have no experience in running the country,let us hear their smallernyana views too.
The 60% of parties do not have common vision otherwise they would have jumped for the opportunity to form a 60% government.
This far it's the ANC that has tolerated anarchy in collisions.
Yes dream on.
Before he mentioned Zim i already knew thats where his heading. Whenever they mention Zimbabwe it's alway negative comments
Oliver Dickson you rock! Please "leaders" put aside yr egos. It's time to move SA forward with speed and reduce the number of ministers and deputies in a bloated parliament!
“It needs a different game altogether” What does he mean???
Mr. Oliver Dickson
❤I àgree
ANC President said there will be National Dialogue which will include everyone to have a discussion and wayforward
ANC kept South Africa poor for thirty years. The ANC secretly allined will the DA. The EFF and the MK is the answer. No compensation for land, get a nationalized central bank. The ANC is Poor houses without toilets, and black people remain as apartheid house maids. The is ANC is not the ANC of 1994.
This reminds me of former CJ prophecy were he said he will be president
Alla Boesak is preferred.
Let ANC within its own ranks,force Ramaphosa to step down for ANC 2026 elections' sake please...Ramaphosa forcing to remain in power,is surely a ticking timed bombs for the ANC and the country...so,let ANC sacrifice its own presidents from government and let there be two centres of power so to speak, bcose ANC had no outright majority nationally,therefore they must not be a stumbling block to form a government...otherwise let all parties agrees that they need a neutral heads of state,and Neutral speakers of parliament,neutral finance minister, neutral ministers to all state institutions,etc...😂yhaaa,😅😂,I think that can work too,Allow Mogoeng Mogoeng to be appointed as neutral president 🎉🎉
Is "grand coalition " not the same concept as GNU?
I feel like the biggest factor holding this whole process back is that Ramaphosa doesn’t wanna step down. With him out of the way things might move ahead
Anyone who voted in this and other elections can not be regarded as neutral. Chief Justice voted in these and other elections. Therefore, Chief Justice can not be taken as neutral.
Me arss voters off South Africa what I expect to this coalition government worth ANC end DA end ather's involved in coalition government one year time thay must prove delivery to the people off South Africa morss special puwer South Africans provenance's
Hayi ukhuluma kakhulu ngendlela emangalisayo umzakazi😂😂😂Hayi angeke shame
Im so glad for this proposal,it demonstrate the faith in our judiciary
Arrogant
Arrogant iec
The presenter naye ukhuluma kakhulu yoo ,
Why is the 60% of smaller parties not forming a coalition government and push the ANC to the opposition? What is this obsession with the ANC?
i was wondering that funny enough. I think on paper ANC is the most “centred” party. I mean our constitution is built off an ANC manifesto…but ANC has proven that words on paper is not enough.
I can see an ANC- EFF coalition (plus small party) working or ANC-DA working because ANC, again on paper, there are fundamental things they can agree on. I’m leaving MK out this scenario because I don’t fully understand their whole things and Ramaphosa seems done with Zuma, but can you imagine a coalition of DA, MK, EFF, IFP and VF+? These guys are so different in their approach to solutions, I think most likely SA will come out no longer SA, maybe at best a federal nation but democracy bye bye.
Great point Leadership
Remember, DA has more than 20 percent of that 60 percent you talking about. Will parties like EFF, MK agree to work with the DA?
Unfortunately DA will spoil that deal.....😂
DA won't work with EFF and MK for starters. And their policies are far apart.
Oliver you did well by inviting leaders of smallernyana parties to hear their views...but can you also invite leaders of biggernyana parties like rise Mzansi n PA even if they have no experience in running the country,let us hear their smallernyana views too.
Was looking for this comment
The judiciary (Zondo) is not trusted by MK. This plan will not work. Bring the church or a respected African leader(s) as facilitators.
ANC is going through the 5 stages of grief, shem 😂
That sound like a solution, but same chief justice to some political parties, is a questionable character and to some extent is compromising space and power of that constitional authority...,was is important is for all political parties to remember that people had spoken that parties must work together and service delivery as a goal...my advice to all parties is:Let all. Manifestos be jointly discussed by all political parties as long such Items on Manifesto can bring changes to better people's lives. Parties must swallow their pride and focus on serving the community, not themselves and their families or friends...there must be a policing party to held all parties accountable as they share responsibility throughout the country using competent people and agrees that all questionable character per condo's commission, phalaphala issue,per party rules, must not be part of government until they clear their names,no Offense on that...all parties must agree on that principle before being sworn in as ministers...😂
South Africans are we failing our country or destroying it as we are in a political stalemate. Please as country let us find each other and move our country forward.
Lost Sheep"Shame"pride and undermining never helps!!!
We need one South Africa!!!
True there must be an opposition they must not make that error
Pls judge zondo is not fit for this position pls can you pls bantu and musi involve judge mogoeng mogweng pls this iwrong ramaphosa is making a big mistake
There is no need to include every party, its not a right the formation of these smaller parties were products of greed ,anger and disagreements let ANC choose those they prefer, else there will be confusion,,,, they are not competent but money hungry
The General is correct, the GNU must not be imposed on others parties, they must be afforded an opportunity to hear what it entails, deliberate within their parties and take a position on it prior to them engaging at a national level.
So sad what is happening in country when guys like Holomisa sound like a school boy asking for permission to take loo from teacher
Sad story after suffering for years now Ramaphosa is selling our country to Israel again
How many seats does BOSA have in parliament.
Two seats
DA have high powers in judiciary with it's connection with judges. That's why they love to take parties to court. Something doesn't seem right with this process.
Surely this is a stalemate.
Kwayena uchief justice is not suitable to deal with this type of exercise because asimethembi as South.africans
Danko
No big party in coalition every one is equal 😅😅😅
You don't even trust yourselves, period. I will not regard anyone 😂 neutral 😢eitral
There is no time left for that Musi. Government must be put in place with the larger parties only.
It is so time consuming to get 18 parties to agree to something. They will fight all day. So much easier to take decisions by only a few.
Parliament is bloated with Parties that are incapable of fixing the problems of South Africa.😮😮😮
ANC are within their rights to negotiate on their terms because they received the most votes. That’s what happens all over the world. These 1 seat parties need to humble themselves.
Now it's time to think about previous times, and be trying to get solution mean must be very united
GNU is political, how will CJ be involved.
You could have obtained an independent legal opinion or 2
The norm is parties negotiate to form a coalition
Phalaphala must step aside and resign for both the country and ANC interest.
Exactly 💯 he has cost the ANC votes.
What did ramaphosa take from you to phaphala?😊
Be YOU see me from there,
Swaro meta
lekker lekker kafferland
Niluhlazo
There is no need for a GNU, form coalition
SA NEEEDS A RE-ELECTION!!!!!!!
Coup Specialists
LOL yep
It is clear, ZUMA was ANC and without him, ANC is weak, indecisive, cowardly.
but for how long?
The Speaker Post is key, can't just give a small party.
The ANC had 30yrs of free Vagabonds rules and they failed. I give the presidency MK and head parliament and finance to EFF others
In your Dreams.Are you Cray Cray😂?
ANC and IEC must accept recount and seat at the Opposition Site not t this proposal rubbish of GNU
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Why is Oliver wasting our time with these leaders. They have received 1 or 2 seats and therefore rightfully deserve to be seating in opposition benches. The people of SA have given the politicians a mandate of top 4 that should agree on their future.
These are veteran politicians with insights that are necessary . Did you want to hear some academic with a superficial understanding?
Isiyanihlula na ipolitiki? Senifaka nabantu okungamele bakhulume ezepolitiki.