The comment about wanting his name to be synonymous with how clueless he is? Yeah all these debunk videos are already the top video results when you just search his name. They come up right under the wikipedia page for him. We're already at the point where when a student googles their lecturer to see 'who's this dbag ranting at me' they'll be met with a page full of all the reasons he's a tool.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains Some might even call it "God's work" 😀 Maybe with enough prayer his flock can manipulate search algorithms. This is too funny, I congratulate and thank you.
@@sendintheclowns7305 I hate being the bearer of bad news, but there are Christian organizations that DO manipulate google search algorithms (the one I know of has to do with crisis pregnancy centers) I’m still working on my comp sci degree, but I really want to push back against the techniques they use to manipulate search results. More specifically, I’m talking about search results for when people are trying to search for reproductive healthcare facilities. Instead of verified healthcare centers with professional medical staff, the first results turn up crisis pregnancy centers which are places that shame vulnerable women and girls into not having an abortion (WITH NO MEDICAL STAFF) aka getting whatever care they need that is best for them. This shit is insidious and it’s well-funded. Honestly, the amount of time that professor Dave puts into his response videos is one thing that gives me hope in pushing back on this christo-fascism movement.
THANK YOU DAVE! And thank you for putting the shoutout of Rice University students who have had to deal with the constant ignorance and reeking arrogance of this piecemeal scientist in an introductory organic chemistry class. As a Rice student myself, I want to add on and confirm that last semester's class with him was such a drag and it was only your presence that helped me get through it. Whether it was your basic and easy-to-understand videos that filled my knowledge gaps (resulting from precious time wasted on discussing pro-pollutant stances and the process of producing chemical weapons) or your response videos that allowed me to watch my professor get gloriously dunked on, I have much to thank you for, Dave. EDIT: Holy... I wrote this comment with five minutes left to spare in the video, and missed the craziest part. If you come to Rice University (unfortunately unlikely, because of how spineless Tour can be), I will be there to support you!
I imagine that if the university took some action to improve the educational experience that Tour is providing, he would cry about how "Christians are being persecuted in academia." Sad.
@@hammalammadingdong6244 Definitely. I've seen universities push out corrupt professors for much less. I am utterly convinced that the only reason he's still clinging onto his lofty position at Rice is because of his graphene patents that are generating hype money for the university. I should've mentioned how many times he brought up his own capitalistic ventures in graphene-peddling. You could get the sense that all this dude wanted to do was make money, above his graduate students or academic integrity. Felt like the technocratic cesspool of start-up culture was teleported to me in a lecture hall, except that it was being peddled by an old guy yelling.
@@warnord So does he really put his religious views into the exam material like 22:33 says? I can kind of see Rice looking the other way on his lectures, but in an exam that seems really bad. Oddly enough I went to Rate My Professor and there's zero ratings now.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Luckily, there have been no questions pertaining to religious content in the exams or in his lectures as "special topics." That being said, every exam had a bible verse or some sort of proverbs on the cover page. His lecture "special topics" are still hell though. More than half of the topics we ever covered only had to do with him, his business ventures, or his beliefs. You still got the sense that this man had a massive ego and was a giant grifter.
"You study how life formed?_Have you made life in a lab!?_" "you're a detective investigating a homicide? Did you do the murder again to prove it?" "You're an Abraham Lincoln biographer? Did you birth and raise an Abraham Lincoln?"
I must say, it's been really satisfying to witness Dave's slow transformation from mild-mannered science educator, to end boss of pseudoscience debunking. And this series has been the culmination of that slow burn.
We need people like Dave who aren't afraid of being feral debatebros about this whole thing and are not apologetic about treating these liars like the liars they are, and remind everyone who may not have heard about them what kind of people they truly are and why they're doing what they're doing.
I will say, being raised a creationist, it took many years for me to start looking at scientific research objectively without immediately dismissing anything I didn’t agree with. It was extremely difficult to come out of that way of thinking.
@@TheGuyCalledX Generally those types were indoctrinated with those beliefs before they were old enough to utilize critical thinking. It's often next to impossible to _reason_ someone out of a position they didn't _reason_ themselves into. Confirmation bias used to be helpful for avoiding predators in the bushes. Nowadays it's how YECs remain YECs despite literally every extant line of evidence pointing away from the YEC conclusion. I also genuinely don't understand it, it seems incomprehensible, and that's probably part of why I'm so fascinated with YEC / flerf / etc
@gemyni YEP! I know exactly how you feel. I never was a creationist. My folks were intelligent enough to understand that the science was totally against that. However, I was raised and indoctrinated as a Christian. It took me 55 years to finally cast that off. I don't care if you or anyone else wants to "believe" and have "faith" in whatever makes you feel good. No problem. Just don't attempt to foist that off on someone else. The ridiculous claims of Young Earth Creationists are SO easy to dispute with actual science. They just don't want to look. However, the existence of a supernatural being is much more difficult to refute. Nothing scientific to do there. So I leave it alone. I DO despise people like William Lane Craig who says that he has come up with a "solid reason" for the existence of a god, but no! FLAWED reasoning only. Take care and learn more science. It will never do you harm and may do you good.
I'm sure it was. Admitting your religious upbringing was wrong, that those you probably love and respect are fundamentally wrong, and coming to terms with the permanent end of you and everyone you care about after death, or at the very least not having any confidence in an alternative , is a huge psychic shift. I respect your ability to go through with it.
Thank you for taking the gloves off!! I’m sick and tired of the unspoken mandate that we treat petulant children with velvet gloves because we must “respect their sincere religious beliefs.”
"'You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs.' No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: 'That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?' I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!" -Patton Oswalt
@@damienroberts934 What's your point? No religion has come closer. The creation myths of any religion are extremely silly. Origin of life science might be far away from the answer but it will always be closer.
@@damienroberts934 NOBODY in the field believes we fully understand abiogenesis! That’s why the field exists - to study and figure it out! James Tour’s religiously motivated crusade is childish because he repeatedly misrepresents the field, misquotes papers, and refuses to learn the science that everybody actually working in the field is doing. It’s just “NASA faked the moon landing” type bullshit with extra steps.
This video series has been so important Dave. As a recovered young earth creationist myself, I can see the cartwheels his brain must be doing to deal with the raw, unadulterated cognitive dissonance that you just created. It’s men like him that made my prior brainwashing effective in me. I appreciate what you’ve done to give such a thorough and brutal response. It still helps to see this, even today, more than 18 years since I turned away from fundamentalism. Thank you. Keep it up. I might just find a way to view that debate live, if that ever happens.
I'd wouldn't worry about the cartwheels. If he was capable of processing basic fact he wouldn't even have gotten this far by now. After all, how can someone spend a year and a half slogging and pay the salary of an entire editing crew to blast out jibberish like that without feeling even a winge of stupidity unless they were completely incapable of self reflection? That being said, I do like the image of Tour bolting awake in cold sweat in the dead of night with Dave's laugh ringing in his ears. I like to think he's at work muttering about peptides and autocatalysts under his breath. I like the thought of someone popping into his office to check on him after they heard him banging his desk and screaming about spontaneous polymerisation. It's fun.
Years ago my young earth professor sent me a James Tour video. I remember watching it and writing my professor a response. I spent hours researching and debunking James Tour’s lies then. My professor didn’t care. I felt like a wasted so much time. But I didn’t. I learned a lot about young earth creationists and actual science. Sure I didn’t change my professors mind but in hindsight that was never going to happen.
@@marknieuweboer8099 couldn’t agree more, I wouldn’t know near as much as I do about the methods of not just evolution of life, but also stellar and galactic evolution.
how is that thing a professor? Is it in the USA? I guess pretty much anywhere else being a creationist would have been a rightful end to any academic career.
Thanks! This was like the porridge that was just right. You generalized, oriented the data, and explained the necessary details just enough so I wasn't lost. I learned quite a few things and learned how to explain others. You then summarized all the issues succinctly. Really well done. I hope you feel it was worth all the work you must have done.
Thanks for the series, Dave! I had seen a video or two from DI and James Tour, so given my Christian beliefs, I used to distrust all of science, but your videos made a huge difference. I'll admit that I didn't understand some of the science you presented ( maybe that's why I believed it ), but one day I will, maybe with your tutorials because it's never too late to become smarter. Keep making these videos, because you are making a difference.
Go to Dave's channel and click on playlists. Then you can select the topic of your interest and be sure that you're watching them in the right order. I watched his playlist on biology and dna (maybe it was called genetics and dna). I learned tons!!
I used to be a young earth creationist. It took a while but people like yourself made me look at the data for what it was. Evolution is the best supported theory science has ever produced. Thanks for helping me get my brain straight Dave. Cheers!
Tour's defenders claim endlessly that he's not an ID proponent or a creationist but here he is trotting out every creationist talking point. Not only do Tour fans not watch Dave's content, they evidently don't watch Tour's
@@Julian0101 Yep, he stops short of concluding a young earth to give him plausible deniability, but the only reason you'd ever bring it up in the first place is to amplify YEC. He knows what he's doing.
@@Julian0101 To quote Dr. Schweitzer herself: "One thing that does bother me, though, is that young earth creationists take my research and use it for their own message, and I think they are misleading people about it. Pastors and evangelists, who are in a position of leadership, are doubly responsible for checking facts and getting things right, but they have misquoted me and misrepresented the data. They’re looking at this research in terms of a false dichotomy [science versus faith] and that doesn’t do anybody any favors."
As a kid I was drowned in the kind of sludge spouted by the discovery institute. I never got to see the other arguments back then. I never got to see the science. As a child I was fed lies about science. I am grateful for people like Dave who have helped me catch up to the truth. It is so cathartic to see Tour's bs shredded like this! Get 'em Dave!
I should also mention, Dave: you and I are the same age, my little sister was originally wanting to go to Rice. I sat down with her and watched your debunks and she quickly changed her mind. She’s now going to University of Oregon. Point being, you’re making a difference, and I thank you for how much work you put into these videos.
Other than to prove a point about how James Tour is hurting Rice University's reputation, I'm not exactly sure how necessary that was. Rice is a much better university.
"They used to say dinosaurs died because climate change. Now they say it's because asteroid" He even described the catastrophic effect that an asteroid impact would have on planet-wide climate, and *still* doesn't see how these two concepts are not just not contradictory, but *complementary*
Yeah it's amusing how he cannot tie these two things together despite them being so obviously related. With such brain capabilities you gotta wonder how the hell did he manage to get his PhD. Are there more doctors like that, who are bad at even basic thinking? And if so, are they even able to produce anything of value for their respective fields of science?
@@Tallorian James Tour is a genuine scientist in his field - he has graphene patents apparently, so he must be good at something, however he is also living proof that being good at one thing does not mean you can't be a complete moron in many many other ways - I heard a quote about Brian Wilson 'genius musician, amateur human being', seems appreopriate.
@@carlpeberdy9086 As I see it, to get a PhD in some field of science you're supposed to be capable of doing proper research, which should not be possible without logical thinking, rationale, ability to construct and test theories and deduce connections between things. So these are some general mental capabilities, they should not just "turn off" when a person delves into a different field of science. And while I understand that they choose to ignore or twist certain facts, findings or research when they try to construct a narrative for their agenda, they also should be aware of the limits beyond which they start sounding dumb and ignorant even for the "lay people". So from real scientists doing conspiracy theories you'd expect smarter talking than what Tour is demonstrating in this case of dinosaur extinction event, pretending that the abrupt climate change and meteorite impact are unrelated, or even contradicting theories. Unlike his chemistry talking points it doesn't require training in the field to notice how dumb this is.
@@Tallorian I quite agree, I think religion is the problem, some otherwise rational, compassionate people have to turn all that off when confronted with ideas and situations that challenge their fixed beliefs.
It always fascinates me how much Dave's tone and mannerisms have changed from the first video. From nice and respectful to absolutely evicerating. And understandably so. Keep up the good work.
Yeah sounds like he really is just *done* with this shit. Can't blame him, especially if Tour is taking runs at him in depth. Now Dave may have invited it let's be honest. But JT had to know by now that Dave wouldn't take anything lying down. Anyway, I guess now JT does know lol!
One thing that I haven't heard said in all these Tour videos, is that he's not really a scientist. He's an engineer who happens to work with chemicals. As a result his grasp of concepts such as hypothesis testing, falsification, parsimony, concordance, provisional acceptance, statistical power, experimental controls etc etc is not what it should be. This is not meant as a defense - far from it - he _should_ know better. I'm sure that he was exposed to these concepts, at least as an undergraduate, but that was a long time ago and he's probably more than a little rusty on them. Had Tour pursued a career in producing new knowledge as to how and why atoms and molecules interact and react, he might be more equipped to understand why all he's doing in his videos is making himself look laughably stupid. Instead he spends his days using known laws and rules of chemistry to develop new combinations of matter (which in itself is not a bad thing) and has completely forgotten how exactly those laws and rules were discovered and developed. His lack of training (or forgotten training) of how science works and how it is performed has made it easier for him (despite his no-doubt impressive intellect) to arrogantly dismiss vast swathes of research with the wave of a hopelessly inept hand. Thank you again for making these videos. It's great that there's someone out there with the qualifications, ability and inclination to take this bumbleflock down a peg or two, because he sorely needs it.
I was actually thinking about how Tour and his unsubstanciated utterances outside of his expertise could warrent a place among equally malodorous manifestos made by similarly uneducated bafoons which you correct in your Holy Hallucinations series. But since you seem to be be rather busy in the past years it is a good thing that people like Dave can take up the mantle of stuffing the lies of such swindlers back up from whatever orifice they fished them from with a similar aptitude as you did in the past. Although it is good to see that one of the pillars of the past in terms of criticising creationists, such as yourself, is still around.
Well fuck me silly, right after I posted a comment about how I haven't seen scholodemies this severe since your repeated reamings of pastor Carl I scroll down and see you're also at THIS party too! I cannot tell you how pleased I am to see you still kicking, even if you've taken a leave of absence from Holy Hallucinations. I must confess that I came across your videos during my more formative years, and they've had a profound (positive) impact on my presentation style and drive for intellectual honesty. Now here I am, a software engineer who tinkers with neuro-evolutionary algorithms who also happens to make and present killer powerpoints; and you were a key element of that outcome. Even if you never make content again (because goodness knows I understand how difficult making a Holy Hallucinations video can be after effectively emulating it), I just want you to know that I am thankful for every minute you've posted. Hell, I'd buy you dinner if I could! But alas, I shall settle on a simple: Thank you for helping me become who I am.
Oh my goodness, 'tis a legend! I wholeheartedly agree with you, TLD, and on that note, I hope you too will return to pwning creationists someday (it's unbelievable to me that it's been a year already since you last reminded Carl and his ilk that deceit is supposed to be a sin to them). Hope you and your loved ones are doing well. I would also like to add to your point about Tour not being a scientist: I frown every time I see that clip of Tour saying "is it alright that I don't understand evolution". Every time I wonder why he seems to think that ignorance is something to be admired, when he can just as well spend an afternoon learning the subject - especially since he loves to run his mouth on the topic, and especially especially because of how often he brags about his qualifications and academic skill. Interesting, isn't it, how this 'scientist' suddenly loses all concern for factual accuracy when it comes to subjects that inconvenience him. What a blunder, too: Mr. '700 papers' somehow can't grasp a subject that high school children can manage just fine.
1st video: Let's give James a benefit of the doubt here and there 1st round: Let's expose Jim, but also not overdo it 2nd round (part 1-3): Taking the gloves off 2nd round (part 4): *Let's nuke Jimbo into smithereens* If there will be a life debate, it won't go well for poor Jim.
@Tonic "Jim" is the missing link between "James" and "Jimbo". The same way "cdesign proponentsists" is the missing link between "(inteligent) design proponets" and "creationists".
What a great series Dave!! Bravo Bellissimo! Love the appropriate amount of snark and humor for this clown. We are lucky to have a channel and resource like you Dave. Keep up the awesome work man.
“you will not be in front of your science illiterate congregation and will be in front of educated people” -tour proceeds to reserve seats and stack the audience with his congregation and picks a biased moderator
Professor Dave out here helping me pass my biology course, while also significantly improving the intelligence and critical thinking skills of a whole generation. Videos like these got me out of the cult that is the Catholic Church. Thanks Dave
@@ZimmZutinZayai Dave said "open discussion" which sounds better. I agree that debates are meaningless regarding scientific topics. Science is an investigation not politics, you don't settle it with fancy retoric or mere opinions.
It's really amazing to see how innocent Tour acts when discussing the age of the earth (It's not hard to see that he is subtly 'JAQing off') but does a complete U turn when it comes to OOL research. Looks like his confidence in a particular subject is strongly linked to his need to justify his religious beliefs. Also sounds like there might be an anti-YEC arc coming up and i am HERE FOR IT!!!!
Yeah, I noticed that first bit too. "Does science know this? I dunno, science gets things wrong all the time. Look at this time science had the wrong hypothesis at first and it had to be changed. Now, let's talk about how some new science has totally upended everything that came before it. I am confident in this second set of science because reasons."
@@magicrectangleEnt This is the great logic of flatearthers as well when science "proofs" that the earth is not a perfect sphere, but due to rotation a tiny bit flattened on the poles it means science is totally wrong and the next day the earth could be a totally flat pizza or something like that.
I have to agree with Dave's characterization of James as a narcissist, because I've unfortunately grown up around quite a few of them where I live. James is nothing but an angry, buffoonish charlatan masquerading as the greatest scientist who's ever lived, and bravo to Dave for ensuring that anyone curious enough about James to search his name on RUclips will be acutely aware of that fact.
I swear, this series has been about 3 times as potent a means to get absolutely pumped as going on a rollercoaster. Seeing science denial get rebuked in such an unadulterated manner is truly a joy.
37:07 I am laughing wayyy to hard at the idea of Dave slapping James with scientific papers. Please do it and then make him read the paper, so that he might actually learn something.
@@daveblock Sure dude, let's all believe supernatural causes made this world, we have absolutely no idea how life came to be and the only thing that could possibly explain the creation must be the almighty space wizard.
@@daveblock So you really don't watch Dave's content, do you? OOL is a nexus of many vastly complicated fields of study. The strides scientists make might mean nothing to you, which is sad but fine, so long as you don't place your ignorance and their achievements on equal footing. "Scientists haven't closed all gaps or reproduced what took 100's of millions of years, thereby it couldn't have/ didn't happen" is the abiogenesis equivalent to flat-earther's "No spinning ball (soccer size) on earth (planet size) has ever been shown to retain surface water." That's like standing under a junkyard crane and expecting a fridgemagnet to outscale the crane's, hillariously ignorant. Edit: Take 2, sober-ish: If by "produced nothing", you mean mere decades of targeted research being unable to reproduce what took nature 100's of millions of years, that would reflect a lacking concept of the importance of scale. There is nothing shameful about insights into the inner workings of nature being beyond our personal understanding, because that's where most of us stand on anything. The horizon of "acceptable lines of inquiry" that limit our comprehension are shackles we may never want to leave unbroken. Assuming answers for personal comfort, to justify a prefered sense of self, is a selfserving and thereby selfdefeating search of enlightenment. I'd hate to think a decent god, if there is such a thing, would approve.
@@daveblock No, this is the discussion we would like to have. Prof. Dave is the one actually having this discussion. James Tour, and because you side with him, you, are having a discussion about creationism and how science doesn't work and we know nothing so let's just stick to religion. Science does work and we have a decent, not perfect, but decent understanding of how simple chemical compunds had the ability to separate, concentrate within small volumes with clear boundaries to the surrounding and allow for reactions within them. Our current chemical understanding of the world is at best 150 years old, deeper understanding more like 100. Even if we would have run continuous lab experiments for 150 years where we put together the compunds of the hadic earth and waited to have something happen, the chance of something happening is about 0%. You need to understand one thing here: the unimaginable scale of time. Every patch on this earth RIGHT NOW has slightly different parameters and conditions, going from 2000°C lava to -70°C eternal ice, from 1100 bar pressure on the bottom of the sea to the peak of everest, from eternal darkness in caves to middle of the desert, from sweetwater to chemical cocktail of hydrothermal vents, millions of different rocks and sediments and billions of molecules that can be soluted in water or get touched by it. It is an extremely heterogeneous place and only in one single place there need to be the right combination of chemical and physical conditions to get one tiny step in development of life. The whole surface of the whole earth as a single chemical playground, there are astronomical factors, geological factors, and most importantly: time. Do you understand how long it must have took until the first autocatalytic reactions happened to be within a self sustaining boundary? We are talking timescales that make human lifespans, the timescales of humanity itself look small. Plate tectonics pushed up the damn Himalayas in 50 MILLION years. Every life on land (first vertebrates, plants from moss to trees, over the dinosaurs to us) took nature the incredibly long time of 450 MILLION years. Try to get an idea of how long thid is. On the extremely heterogeneous surface of hadean earth, it took 500 MILLION years for he most basic idea of a cell to come together ONCE. Even more, cells have had the chance to become increasingly more complex for 4 BILLION years since then. 4 000 000 000 years. How likely would you win the main jackpot in Lotto if you would play every day, 24 hours a day, every second, for just a few years? A hundred years? A thousand years? What's if you played Lotto for 100 000 years? 200 000 years? What's the chance you win at least once when you play Lotto for half a billion years? Everyone here understands: yes, the right combination of molecules at the right place at the right time are extremely rare. There probably were trillions of moments that were perfect but for one factor missing. There probably have been uncountable proto-cells come together by chance, only to fall apart instantly because the surrounding factors changed. When you think about the insane timescales we are talking about, modern life as we see it makes a lot more sense.
@@daveblock " abiogenesis and the fact it has produced nothing" well, that would be an outright lie. but that's the way modern xians defend their "faith" right? with outright lies and projection.
You're just so good and thorough at exposing these funny quacks. Keep it up! I hope Tour's ego is big enough that he actually agrees for the debate. That would be the most entertaining thing ever
Dave, thank you for the hard work you do correcting this man's misguided beliefs. Loved the challenge at the end, and I would fly to Texas to attend if possible. I hope you'll announce this if possible so people can attend.
The comments at 28:10 are just amazing. "James is older than you!" "Is child r**e wrong???" "You are excrement." You couldn't make this stuff up. Great work, Dave - as always. Can't wait for the next time His Excellence Prof. Dr. Genius James Tour, PhD exposes you again.
Holy shit, Dave. For quite some time, I was worried that we'd never get a new generation of critical thinkers who are not afraid to appropriately confront the idiotic frauds like they deserve. But you belong there, you're one of the new horsemen of the apocalypse.
@@Richard_Nickerson Hahah just saying. One could get away with a Creationist position and still argue against a scientific explanation for Origins of Life, but YECism is explicitly science denialism
what is very funny to me is that if this guy were truly a legitimate player in this field, he wouldn't have the time or interest to engage THIS much with some guy on youtube. at best, dave would have gotten a rushed, one-off commentary video from dr. tour's cluttered-ass office in between the innumerable other tasks he does daily to further science. and yet here we are
@@1g1d1w 🙄 Appeal to authority, despite the abundant evidence that doing so is not only a fallacy but a waste of time. And something like the number of people who have downloaded his misinformation doesn't validate his misinformation 🙄🤦♂️
Ok wow. I often (especially since COVID changed teaching so much) have recommended your videos as supplemental material for my high school chemistry students. I’ve watched a lot of your videos to preview and be sure they match my lessons, and I’ve always been happy with them, and trusted that you explain these concepts really well. And then I stumbled on this. The joy I derive from watching another passionate science educator dismantle dishonest pseudoscience peddlers is fantastic. This is a side of your channel I didn’t know existed and didn’t know I needed. Thank you
Dave didn't point this out I don't think, but when an ID proponent says "we need new minds on this" referring to a field of science, they almost certainly mean they want their DI cronies to become the dominant voice in the field. If there is a discussion, I'd love to see Tour be pressed on this. He should be asked specifically if he believes that scripture and religion have a place in OoL research going forward.
14:30 Another important point here is that James Tour deliberately doesn’t mention that Alvarez’s hypothesis was proven to be right after the Chixculub crater was discovered and then core drilled and dated to exactly the date range of the KPG extinction event indicated by the KPG boundary layer
It's really sickening to see him spew this nonsense and get away with it. It's so confusing that it's almost incoherent but he's acting as if he's exposing scientific fraud. Climate change wasn't a cause? Science is wrong for guessing about a meteor until evidence of one was found? And let's not forget, this is all wrapped up in the idea that the age of Earth is in question when the discovery of the crater doesn't change the estimate at all really. I swear it's so illogical that it's like he's trying to say because we didn't find a huge crater until 1980 that every bit of science used to date the planet is based on bad information. He's just about calling for a global conspiracy on geology and physics. It's borderline flat Earth.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime As a chemist he also knows exactly how the age is validated and trusted. No doubt he’s likely worked with radioactive materials in his time and he’s likely all too aware of the nucelosynthesis of these elements and worse, he CAN ‘Vet that’ because it’s literally what his chemistry expertise taught him.. So it’s really funny to see him claim that he can’t when it’s one of the easiest things for him
@@ProfessorDaveExplains May I suggest ThioJoe's spammer purge tool? You can run it from a separate account if you not fully trust it (you should). It exists on github under the name "YT-Spammer-Purge".
"...no matter how many times you show me falling off the drumset." I don't know why, I just had to chuckle at this line and delivery. Humour is on point :-)
This is far and away the best material you have presented on Tour, Genesis timeline, Adam, and actual red blood cells, if anyone was In the slightest unconvinced about his true motivation...here we have it
F***ing bullseye! I love Dave and his content! This was pure gold and had me smiling the whole time. Love the fact you called him out personally and threw the DI right in his face at the same time. Can’t wait for this debate, that is if James has the spine to accept. Don’t ever stop Dave, you’re my hero.
At 23:28 the little description for the playlist says: Dr. Tour is back! In an amazing second season on abiogenesis (origin of life), Dr. Tour enlightens us yet again. This time, not only does Dr. Tour thwart a RUclipsr’s misguided understanding of chemistry, but he scrutinizes the details of chemists selected by the RUclipsr for engagement. And I think that is hilarious because it sounds like a description for a superhero movie where Dr. Tour plays the heroic protagonist fighting against evil. Superman is back! In an amazing second season on Justice League (A superhero team), Superman enlightens us yet again. This time, not only does Superman thwart a Super villain's misguided understanding of justice, but he scrutinizes the details of the villain's evil plan selected by Superman for engagement.
Professor Dave: "James Tour is a scientifically illiterate moron, here's proof" (part one) Also Professor Dave: "In case that wasn't clear enough, here's mountains more evidence" (parts 2-4)
@@freddan6fly I appreciate you pointing out the error On that note, I'm aware of the other videos Professor Dave has made on JT. However, as should be obvious, I was not referring to them in my comment on the fourth part of a new four part series
I love how Dave is accepting the debate challenge. But I would caution Dave to be specific on the debate topic. If it is too loosely defined: Tour will introduce new papers which Dave cannot read in real time, thus Tour can lie about them and to the uneducated: Not calling his lies out right there is equal to not being able to do so in general. The debate should be limited to claims made by tour and the papers Dave already presented (and which Tour lied about). That way he cannot gish gallop his way out by piling lies upon lies. Also: The good thing about Dave is that he does not need to be overly cordial. Conversations between researchers (or even those who do not know anything about the topic, like James tour, and actual researchers) tend to be civil to a point where the unreasonable side (read: James Tour) is being put on equal grounds in terms of respect. Dave does not need to do that. He can call a spade a spade. When James is lying: Dave can call it like it is. When James is misrepresenting actual experts: Dave can call it like it is. When James is insulting researchers: Dave can call it like it is.
This can be circumvented by establishing and sharing papers before-hand and not allowing new papers to be brought into the debate. And not allowing someone to use a source outside of the accepted list of papers that were shared. So no bullshit surprise papers that allow anyone to weasel out of a topic. Of course, specifying topics before-hand would be fruitful as well.
@@Chemasaurus wont that just result in Tour digging things the chosen papers don't fully adress and whine about those, as then Dave cannot adress them with additional papers as that would be against the rules? From that Tour can then declare a victory, as that one small thing totally shows the entire thing is impossible, as long as he shouts it loid enough. I quess topic chosen can limit that, but I am unsure if that is enough.
@@Trombi01 Fair point. This is why live debates are garbage for advanced topics in science. I'm sure they'll have some reasonable set of rules if they have a debate.
@@Trombi01 "wont that just result in Tour digging things the chosen papers don't fully adress and whine about those, as then Dave cannot adress them with additional papers as that would be against the rules? From that Tour can then declare a victory, as that one small thing totally shows the entire thing is impossible, as long as he shouts it loid enough." Well wasn't that kind of prophetic, given how things turned out. With the expection that tour did not even try to dig into the paper to find some minute flaw, he just made some up, denied the papers say what they do and shouted loud enough. And even then: Tour failed so misserably, that even christians are appaled by his behaviour. The only way for you to be more accurate is if you called his chalk stunt in advance xD
Dave is probably one of the best debunkers out there. In the beginning, he was polite and courteous and politely pointing out facts. I love how now, you’ve just completely dropped this and are just utterly shattering all stupidity. You are doing great work to completely destroy stupidity.
Every time I stumble across videos like this I try to examine both sides even though I Trust professor Dave. I try to read all the references Dave does and and to cross reference with what the self proclaimed expert says and with a little help from articles and other sources I get the basic idea behind some of the topics discussed. I am not a lay person in science but I am a lay person at almost everything chemistry so I try to read carefully and try to grasp some of the ideas presented and make sense of it. At first I have difficulties but then at last I get the concept. And it amazes me that a person that has done experiments and has a sound understanding of science chooses to ignore whatever doesn't fit his world view because if a lay person like me understands the basic concepts of these very difficult topics how is it possible to a man like tour to outright deny facts that are so well researched. How a man lies to himself and to others like that is beyond me. (Ps. Sorry for my English. It is not my first language)
Duuude, Prof. Dave is savage! Thank you so much for your content, as someone who can't stand pseudoscience and dogmas... you are doing the world and academia a great service! Thanks to your debunk on quantum mysticism i got my parents back from a world full of shit. Keep it up Professor!
James will never accept a debate. Some of the minions whose channels he goes on have offered me to debate James many times. I accepted each time. Never heard back.
Greatest video series ever. The acceptance to debate face to face at the end was down right intimidating, I almost feel bad for Tour looking at this and feeling every security net and safeguard be torn away from him as he stands there alone, exposed and pale as a sheet. XD I love also how everything that pops up first when looking up his name is all these debunks Demonstrating what a lying fool he is. He won't show Ofcourse, as it's equivalent to expecting a man to willingly walk out unarmed and exposed and stand with his back to the firing squad wall with no blindfold. But boy were you going boss mode at the end there and I'd sure wish I could see it happen to him right up in his smug face 😏👌
If Tour doesn't chicken out of this debate, i would LOVE to see it posted somewhere, unedited, so i can just watch him crumble. Those that share his faith and the loose ways in which the biblical commandments are applied are the reason i became initially agnostic, and then atheistic, and seeing you tearing people like this to shreds fills me with SO much joy. Please continue what you're doing, both with teaching and debunking nonsense like this. You're doing the world and the scientific community a great service by doing this. Thank you so much for doing it.
Dave's debunks are masterpieces and an art form in and of itself, but did not expect him to throw down the gauntlet at the end of this series. WOW. I so so so wish this debate will happen. It would be GLORIOUS. Popcorn is READY. Though I have a feeling James will readily accept at first, and back out due to "unforeseen circumstances" and hope we will forget about the whole thing. WE WILL NOT FORGET. :)
I love seeing your content, seeing you speak harshly and shedding the veneer of 'polite discussion' will never cease to make me smile. So many liars try to hide behind fake niceness to avoid having their character utterly torn apart, and you break right through it. I'm not a donator but those are my two cents, cheers!
Dave was respectful of Tour in the first video which began this journey. Tour's deserved everything he's gotten since his rage series which followed Dave's first vid.
The level of savagery in this video is sky high and I absolutely love every second of it😂 I feel like I should watch Tour's last series just for laughs
I just want to draw attention to the fact that at 28:09 one of the commenters on screen said "Dave eats fecal." and thought that was a genuinely good response to the video. Outstanding rebuttal.
@15:00 bingo! Tour could only be getting the blood cells & collagen in dinos stuff from (unspecified) YEC apologetics. There's a reading list lurking behind his public facade that he's very reluctant to share (or fact check).
I’m just a regular chemist, not a supremely superior synthetic chemist, but I really enjoyed this series. And as a chemist myself, I can see how James can convince some neophytes to believe all this nonsense, because let’s admit it, he is good to make himself look credible even when he is clueless. And that’s precisely why this debunk is important. It may not convince his followers, but it can teach those on the verge of falling into the net of some charlatan like him. I see this kind of debunking videos more like a preventive medicine than a cure for the already affected, if you will. The world needs more Dave Farina. I bought your book and I’ve been enjoying your content for a while, now. Well it’s time I really support this channel vis Patreon. Keep going, you good sir.
Yes, please. If James, somehow, gets the balls to follow through and meet you for a "debate", please make a short video announcing the date and time (hopefully live-streamed to your channel) so we are notified through our subscription. I appreciate your balance of showing and explaining with calling it what it is.
27:35 I wondered where they all got that idea on blocking and deleting. The sadly amusing part is that it took Dave to tell me where it came from because each time I asked a Tour fan they could never give me the reference.
As a Chemist myself (Quantum Chemistry), I feel ashamed that James Tour got through, and got a diploma in Chemistry, that man need to learn some basic Science :( He´s the kind of bs that loves to use complicated words, that people who aren´t in the field, have difficulty in understanding, as a cover for his lack of knowledge in the field, those people are the worst....
James Tour doesn't even seem to know what the God of the Gaps is. He thinks it's about claiming that we will never know if we don't know now, but that's not what it means. It's about accepting God as an explanation if you don't have a better one currently.
Dear Professor Dave, it was and is a pleasure to listen to the scientifically very reasoned explanations. Piece by piece very clear comments while the other side hardly gets beyond the "bible". It never ceases to amaze me that someone uneducated can continue to pass himself off as an expert while every statement he makes is completely beside the point. I am following this with great respect from Belgium-Europe. Mark, a former elementary school teacher.
"I delete spam comments. Do you know what spam means?" This one's easy! Spam is a type of meat substance sold in cans! Dave's lessons are so easy! Also, I think the only error I find in this series is when you said you were "Singlehandedly demolishing your [Tour's] entire house of cards". You are certainly doing amazing work, and I could see why you would write it this way for the purpose of the script and keeping it catchy and understandable, but people like Forrest Valkai, Seth Andrews, Matt Dillahunty, AronRa, and some others that I can't name off of the top of my head, as well as pretty much the entire scientific community, is utterly demolishing every single detail of James' entire worldview and doing so repeatedly and concisely every single day. Their contributions can't be understated, and I highly recommend checking them out for anyone who may be reading this
I've been watching you for a long time. I have come to envy your confidence, which is outside the scope of your channel. Don't underestimate how your behavior is positively influencing your viewers.
Okay, this has to be the most brutal breakdown I have ever seen. Yes, even compared to the GlobeBusters one and that one was already savage to a high degree. You sir show absolutely no mercy. I'd hate to be that guy.
I'm going to be honest, this whole mini series was completed faster than I expected! Great job, Dave! I love these videos that you had carefully crafted for us to watch!
Be assured, Tour is the gift that keeps on giving. Fundamentalist religious nutbaggery is an inexhaustible reservoir of stupid. That man will stay deluded to his grave. Being deluded while loud and confident ensures he will never stop having an audience of deluded sheep to sell lies to.
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Can’t wait for James to make a 900+ video series to “debunk” these sets of videos
He has enough money to get someone to do it for him, can't wait for Dave's 5 minute debunk of the whole 900 episodes
Debunk should be a strong word, but since it’s been overused, I’m not quite sure for now
So many bridges will be burnt.
Each one making less sense than the last
Each video is About a different frame from all the videos
The comment about wanting his name to be synonymous with how clueless he is? Yeah all these debunk videos are already the top video results when you just search his name. They come up right under the wikipedia page for him. We're already at the point where when a student googles their lecturer to see 'who's this dbag ranting at me' they'll be met with a page full of all the reasons he's a tool.
Hahahaha I can't believe I never just googled his name to see that. It's so fucking beautiful.
Serious gold right there
@@ProfessorDaveExplains Some might even call it "God's work" 😀
Maybe with enough prayer his flock can manipulate search algorithms.
This is too funny, I congratulate and thank you.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains please edit that into the end of the video
@@sendintheclowns7305 I hate being the bearer of bad news, but there are Christian organizations that DO manipulate google search algorithms (the one I know of has to do with crisis pregnancy centers) I’m still working on my comp sci degree, but I really want to push back against the techniques they use to manipulate search results. More specifically, I’m talking about search results for when people are trying to search for reproductive healthcare facilities. Instead of verified healthcare centers with professional medical staff, the first results turn up crisis pregnancy centers which are places that shame vulnerable women and girls into not having an abortion (WITH NO MEDICAL STAFF) aka getting whatever care they need that is best for them. This shit is insidious and it’s well-funded. Honestly, the amount of time that professor Dave puts into his response videos is one thing that gives me hope in pushing back on this christo-fascism movement.
THANK YOU DAVE! And thank you for putting the shoutout of Rice University students who have had to deal with the constant ignorance and reeking arrogance of this piecemeal scientist in an introductory organic chemistry class. As a Rice student myself, I want to add on and confirm that last semester's class with him was such a drag and it was only your presence that helped me get through it. Whether it was your basic and easy-to-understand videos that filled my knowledge gaps (resulting from precious time wasted on discussing pro-pollutant stances and the process of producing chemical weapons) or your response videos that allowed me to watch my professor get gloriously dunked on, I have much to thank you for, Dave.
EDIT: Holy... I wrote this comment with five minutes left to spare in the video, and missed the craziest part. If you come to Rice University (unfortunately unlikely, because of how spineless Tour can be), I will be there to support you!
I imagine that if the university took some action to improve the educational experience that Tour is providing, he would cry about how "Christians are being persecuted in academia."
Sad.
@@hammalammadingdong6244 Definitely. I've seen universities push out corrupt professors for much less. I am utterly convinced that the only reason he's still clinging onto his lofty position at Rice is because of his graphene patents that are generating hype money for the university. I should've mentioned how many times he brought up his own capitalistic ventures in graphene-peddling. You could get the sense that all this dude wanted to do was make money, above his graduate students or academic integrity. Felt like the technocratic cesspool of start-up culture was teleported to me in a lecture hall, except that it was being peddled by an old guy yelling.
If you have any documentation of his idiotic behavior, be it video, email, or anything else, send it my way! More ammo never hurts.
@@warnord So does he really put his religious views into the exam material like 22:33 says? I can kind of see Rice looking the other way on his lectures, but in an exam that seems really bad. Oddly enough I went to Rate My Professor and there's zero ratings now.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Luckily, there have been no questions pertaining to religious content in the exams or in his lectures as "special topics." That being said, every exam had a bible verse or some sort of proverbs on the cover page. His lecture "special topics" are still hell though. More than half of the topics we ever covered only had to do with him, his business ventures, or his beliefs. You still got the sense that this man had a massive ego and was a giant grifter.
"You study how life formed?_Have you made life in a lab!?_"
"you're a detective investigating a homicide? Did you do the murder again to prove it?"
"You're an Abraham Lincoln biographer? Did you birth and raise an Abraham Lincoln?"
what if i did give birth to abe? his stovepipe hat broke my cervix
"Did you birth and raise an Abraham Lincln?"
"no I skipped those boring parts and just concentrated on shoting him in the opera."
@@kamion53 aww, why not both?
@@alexmcd378 euh..... laziness?
@@kamion53 fair
I must say, it's been really satisfying to witness Dave's slow transformation from mild-mannered science educator, to end boss of pseudoscience debunking. And this series has been the culmination of that slow burn.
Dave should make his own Dark Souls style boss theme
@@XraynPR yes, this!!!
Funny how Tour took on the end boss in person and thought he'd win.
We need people like Dave who aren't afraid of being feral debatebros about this whole thing and are not apologetic about treating these liars like the liars they are, and remind everyone who may not have heard about them what kind of people they truly are and why they're doing what they're doing.
End Boss! Feral Debatebros! That's amazing!
I will say, being raised a creationist, it took many years for me to start looking at scientific research objectively without immediately dismissing anything I didn’t agree with. It was extremely difficult to come out of that way of thinking.
The whole thing is boarded up against "renegade heretics". But it's actually a suppressing totalitarian system where fakers can take authority.
Confirmation bias is strong among humans. Glad you found your way out of that anti science cult. I was also raised by YECs, I feel ya.
@@TheGuyCalledX Generally those types were indoctrinated with those beliefs before they were old enough to utilize critical thinking.
It's often next to impossible to _reason_ someone out of a position they didn't _reason_ themselves into.
Confirmation bias used to be helpful for avoiding predators in the bushes. Nowadays it's how YECs remain YECs despite literally every extant line of evidence pointing away from the YEC conclusion.
I also genuinely don't understand it, it seems incomprehensible, and that's probably part of why I'm so fascinated with YEC / flerf / etc
@gemyni YEP! I know exactly how you feel. I never was a creationist. My folks were intelligent enough to understand that the science was totally against that. However, I was raised and indoctrinated as a Christian. It took me 55 years to finally cast that off.
I don't care if you or anyone else wants to "believe" and have "faith" in whatever makes you feel good. No problem. Just don't attempt to foist that off on someone else.
The ridiculous claims of Young Earth Creationists are SO easy to dispute with actual science. They just don't want to look. However, the existence of a supernatural being is much more difficult to refute. Nothing scientific to do there. So I leave it alone. I DO despise people like William Lane Craig who says that he has come up with a "solid reason" for the existence of a god, but no! FLAWED reasoning only.
Take care and learn more science. It will never do you harm and may do you good.
I'm sure it was. Admitting your religious upbringing was wrong, that those you probably love and respect are fundamentally wrong, and coming to terms with the permanent end of you and everyone you care about after death, or at the very least not having any confidence in an alternative , is a huge psychic shift. I respect your ability to go through with it.
Thank you for taking the gloves off!! I’m sick and tired of the unspoken mandate that we treat petulant children with velvet gloves because we must “respect their sincere religious beliefs.”
"'You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs.' No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: 'That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?' I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!" -Patton Oswalt
Exactly! The idea that beliefs and opinions deserve respect is inexcusably irresponsible.
facts 110%
@@damienroberts934 What's your point? No religion has come closer. The creation myths of any religion are extremely silly. Origin of life science might be far away from the answer but it will always be closer.
@@damienroberts934 NOBODY in the field believes we fully understand abiogenesis! That’s why the field exists - to study and figure it out! James Tour’s religiously motivated crusade is childish because he repeatedly misrepresents the field, misquotes papers, and refuses to learn the science that everybody actually working in the field is doing.
It’s just “NASA faked the moon landing” type bullshit with extra steps.
James: *says nonesense*
Dave: *Debunk*
James: *says the same thing but angrier*
Dave: *Debunk again*
"says the same thing but angrier" is basically the christian mood.
@@GamesFromSpace James: *Begins trying to rally a crusade of stupidity against the world of science*
"The bible says this"
"Bible isn't a source for scientifically accurate facts"
"BU-BU-BUT BIBLE"
@@txzk26 Creation "science" in a nutshell.
James: Mr Farina! LOOK! GO GO GO GO!!
Dave: Debunk
This video series has been so important Dave. As a recovered young earth creationist myself, I can see the cartwheels his brain must be doing to deal with the raw, unadulterated cognitive dissonance that you just created. It’s men like him that made my prior brainwashing effective in me. I appreciate what you’ve done to give such a thorough and brutal response. It still helps to see this, even today, more than 18 years since I turned away from fundamentalism. Thank you. Keep it up. I might just find a way to view that debate live, if that ever happens.
I'd wouldn't worry about the cartwheels. If he was capable of processing basic fact he wouldn't even have gotten this far by now. After all, how can someone spend a year and a half slogging and pay the salary of an entire editing crew to blast out jibberish like that without feeling even a winge of stupidity unless they were completely incapable of self reflection?
That being said, I do like the image of Tour bolting awake in cold sweat in the dead of night with Dave's laugh ringing in his ears. I like to think he's at work muttering about peptides and autocatalysts under his breath. I like the thought of someone popping into his office to check on him after they heard him banging his desk and screaming about spontaneous polymerisation. It's fun.
At which age did you jump ship if you don't mind me asking?
I was around 12 or so when I started questioning everything.
@@DanMoridin I never really believed it, partly as I'm science inclined and part out of spite for my Catholic high school.
@@blakksheep736as a Yu-Gi-Oh player, I also sometimes scream about instant polymerization 😂
@@Nerobyrne 😆
Years ago my young earth professor sent me a James Tour video. I remember watching it and writing my professor a response. I spent hours researching and debunking James Tour’s lies then. My professor didn’t care. I felt like a wasted so much time. But I didn’t. I learned a lot about young earth creationists and actual science. Sure I didn’t change my professors mind but in hindsight that was never going to happen.
You should send him this shit and tell him to get bent.
Yeah, Young Earth Creacrappers and IDiots urged me to learn more about evolution theory and OoL research than I would have done otherwise.
@@marknieuweboer8099 couldn’t agree more, I wouldn’t know near as much as I do about the methods of not just evolution of life, but also stellar and galactic evolution.
Spite is a great motivator, it seems.
how is that thing a professor? Is it in the USA? I guess pretty much anywhere else being a creationist would have been a rightful end to any academic career.
"...running his mouth like no-one educated is paying attention" - my favourite line of this whole series
I don’t know about that. “I’m the backlash” set a pretty high bar:)
@@byrnemeister2008 it’s such a raw and intimidating line
@@byrnemeister2008 reminded me of "I'm your huckleberry."
I wonder if James knows that every argument he makes works just as well for Islamic creationism.
Nah, it would have to be written in arabic ofc. Or if you will arab as the technicial word are.
Doesn't matter what words they use to describe their creationist dogma? A turds a turd, its universally recognised.
But but but but… the Bible says that Jesus is Lord and Creator, so the Mooselambs have it wrong, obviously.
/s
Only if he was intellectually honest...which is obviously not true!
"arguments" is a strong word for what he is doing.
Thanks!
This was like the porridge that was just right. You generalized, oriented the data, and explained the necessary details just enough so I wasn't lost. I learned quite a few things and learned how to explain others. You then summarized all the issues succinctly. Really well done. I hope you feel it was worth all the work you must have done.
Thanks for the series, Dave! I had seen a video or two from DI and James Tour, so given my Christian beliefs, I used to distrust all of science, but your videos made a huge difference. I'll admit that I didn't understand some of the science you presented ( maybe that's why I believed it ), but one day I will, maybe with your tutorials because it's never too late to become smarter. Keep making these videos, because you are making a difference.
Tell me how it goes!
Go to Dave's channel and click on playlists. Then you can select the topic of your interest and be sure that you're watching them in the right order. I watched his playlist on biology and dna (maybe it was called genetics and dna). I learned tons!!
I used to be a young earth creationist. It took a while but people like yourself made me look at the data for what it was. Evolution is the best supported theory science has ever produced. Thanks for helping me get my brain straight Dave. Cheers!
That's a very hard mindset to break free of. I'm very happy you managed to find your way out and into logic 👍
awesome! if you ever want to share that story on my tiny channel let me know via email my email is on my about page :)
I can do nothing but cheer for every single person who manages to claw their way out of young earth creationism. 🥳
Never stop learning!
I would not call evolution "the best supported theory science has ever produced" - this title would go to physics.
Tour's defenders claim endlessly that he's not an ID proponent or a creationist but here he is trotting out every creationist talking point.
Not only do Tour fans not watch Dave's content, they evidently don't watch Tour's
Only a creationist would try to sell Mary Schweitzer's discovery as "blood inside the bone".
There is no way tour can escape that stigma now.
@@Julian0101 Yep, he stops short of concluding a young earth to give him plausible deniability, but the only reason you'd ever bring it up in the first place is to amplify YEC. He knows what he's doing.
Well as we all know if you don't outright say you are a thing then your not that thing
/s
@@Julian0101 To quote Dr. Schweitzer herself:
"One thing that does bother me, though, is that young earth creationists take my research and use it for their own message, and I think they are misleading people about it. Pastors and evangelists, who are in a position of leadership, are doubly responsible for checking facts and getting things right, but they have misquoted me and misrepresented the data. They’re looking at this research in terms of a false dichotomy [science versus faith] and that doesn’t do anybody any favors."
its like when people defending racists say 'im not a racist, but here is the racist defending talking points" bruh.
As a kid I was drowned in the kind of sludge spouted by the discovery institute. I never got to see the other arguments back then. I never got to see the science. As a child I was fed lies about science. I am grateful for people like Dave who have helped me catch up to the truth. It is so cathartic to see Tour's bs shredded like this! Get 'em Dave!
I should also mention, Dave: you and I are the same age, my little sister was originally wanting to go to Rice. I sat down with her and watched your debunks and she quickly changed her mind. She’s now going to University of Oregon.
Point being, you’re making a difference, and I thank you for how much work you put into these videos.
Other than to prove a point about how James Tour is hurting Rice University's reputation, I'm not exactly sure how necessary that was. Rice is a much better university.
Rice and U of Oregon are not even remotely in the same category. Are you sure she just didn't ... not get into Rice?
U should have investigated further, like checked cwur or similar.
"They used to say dinosaurs died because climate change. Now they say it's because asteroid"
He even described the catastrophic effect that an asteroid impact would have on planet-wide climate, and *still* doesn't see how these two concepts are not just not contradictory, but *complementary*
Probably thinks jesus hunted the dinosaurs like turok.
Yeah it's amusing how he cannot tie these two things together despite them being so obviously related.
With such brain capabilities you gotta wonder how the hell did he manage to get his PhD. Are there more doctors like that, who are bad at even basic thinking? And if so, are they even able to produce anything of value for their respective fields of science?
@@Tallorian James Tour is a genuine scientist in his field - he has graphene patents apparently, so he must be good at something, however he is also living proof that being good at one thing does not mean you can't be a complete moron in many many other ways - I heard a quote about Brian Wilson 'genius musician, amateur human being', seems appreopriate.
@@carlpeberdy9086 As I see it, to get a PhD in some field of science you're supposed to be capable of doing proper research, which should not be possible without logical thinking, rationale, ability to construct and test theories and deduce connections between things.
So these are some general mental capabilities, they should not just "turn off" when a person delves into a different field of science.
And while I understand that they choose to ignore or twist certain facts, findings or research when they try to construct a narrative for their agenda, they also should be aware of the limits beyond which they start sounding dumb and ignorant even for the "lay people".
So from real scientists doing conspiracy theories you'd expect smarter talking than what Tour is demonstrating in this case of dinosaur extinction event, pretending that the abrupt climate change and meteorite impact are unrelated, or even contradicting theories.
Unlike his chemistry talking points it doesn't require training in the field to notice how dumb this is.
@@Tallorian I quite agree, I think religion is the problem, some otherwise rational, compassionate people have to turn all that off when confronted with ideas and situations that challenge their fixed beliefs.
It always fascinates me how much Dave's tone and mannerisms have changed from the first video. From nice and respectful to absolutely evicerating. And understandably so. Keep up the good work.
What fascinates me is Tour not turning the other cheek. People claiming to be Christians and yet following very few if any of Jesus teachings.
Considering how slimy of a person Tour turned out to be, I don't blame him.
@@ragg232 Hey, more fun for us all. I won't complain
Yeah sounds like he really is just *done* with this shit. Can't blame him, especially if Tour is taking runs at him in depth. Now Dave may have invited it let's be honest. But JT had to know by now that Dave wouldn't take anything lying down. Anyway, I guess now JT does know lol!
One thing that I haven't heard said in all these Tour videos, is that he's not really a scientist. He's an engineer who happens to work with chemicals. As a result his grasp of concepts such as hypothesis testing, falsification, parsimony, concordance, provisional acceptance, statistical power, experimental controls etc etc is not what it should be. This is not meant as a defense - far from it - he _should_ know better. I'm sure that he was exposed to these concepts, at least as an undergraduate, but that was a long time ago and he's probably more than a little rusty on them. Had Tour pursued a career in producing new knowledge as to how and why atoms and molecules interact and react, he might be more equipped to understand why all he's doing in his videos is making himself look laughably stupid. Instead he spends his days using known laws and rules of chemistry to develop new combinations of matter (which in itself is not a bad thing) and has completely forgotten how exactly those laws and rules were discovered and developed. His lack of training (or forgotten training) of how science works and how it is performed has made it easier for him (despite his no-doubt impressive intellect) to arrogantly dismiss vast swathes of research with the wave of a hopelessly inept hand. Thank you again for making these videos. It's great that there's someone out there with the qualifications, ability and inclination to take this bumbleflock down a peg or two, because he sorely needs it.
A name from the past, the legend himself. Hopefully you will make content again
I was actually thinking about how Tour and his unsubstanciated utterances outside of his expertise could warrent a place among equally malodorous manifestos made by similarly uneducated bafoons which you correct in your Holy Hallucinations series. But since you seem to be be rather busy in the past years it is a good thing that people like Dave can take up the mantle of stuffing the lies of such swindlers back up from whatever orifice they fished them from with a similar aptitude as you did in the past.
Although it is good to see that one of the pillars of the past in terms of criticising creationists, such as yourself, is still around.
I miss your content.
Well fuck me silly, right after I posted a comment about how I haven't seen scholodemies this severe since your repeated reamings of pastor Carl I scroll down and see you're also at THIS party too! I cannot tell you how pleased I am to see you still kicking, even if you've taken a leave of absence from Holy Hallucinations.
I must confess that I came across your videos during my more formative years, and they've had a profound (positive) impact on my presentation style and drive for intellectual honesty. Now here I am, a software engineer who tinkers with neuro-evolutionary algorithms who also happens to make and present killer powerpoints; and you were a key element of that outcome. Even if you never make content again (because goodness knows I understand how difficult making a Holy Hallucinations video can be after effectively emulating it), I just want you to know that I am thankful for every minute you've posted. Hell, I'd buy you dinner if I could! But alas, I shall settle on a simple: Thank you for helping me become who I am.
Oh my goodness, 'tis a legend! I wholeheartedly agree with you, TLD, and on that note, I hope you too will return to pwning creationists someday (it's unbelievable to me that it's been a year already since you last reminded Carl and his ilk that deceit is supposed to be a sin to them). Hope you and your loved ones are doing well.
I would also like to add to your point about Tour not being a scientist: I frown every time I see that clip of Tour saying "is it alright that I don't understand evolution". Every time I wonder why he seems to think that ignorance is something to be admired, when he can just as well spend an afternoon learning the subject - especially since he loves to run his mouth on the topic, and especially especially because of how often he brags about his qualifications and academic skill. Interesting, isn't it, how this 'scientist' suddenly loses all concern for factual accuracy when it comes to subjects that inconvenience him. What a blunder, too: Mr. '700 papers' somehow can't grasp a subject that high school children can manage just fine.
1st video: Let's give James a benefit of the doubt here and there
1st round: Let's expose Jim, but also not overdo it
2nd round (part 1-3): Taking the gloves off
2nd round (part 4): *Let's nuke Jimbo into smithereens*
If there will be a life debate, it won't go well for poor Jim.
That would be a massacer. Even tho I doubt it if he EVER say yes, I will grab popcorn.
I’ll bring drinks. Do y’all prefer coke or Pepsi?
@@Skywarslord Coke for me ! 🤣
@Tonic "Jim" is the missing link between "James" and "Jimbo". The same way "cdesign proponentsists" is the missing link between "(inteligent) design proponets" and "creationists".
What a great series Dave!! Bravo Bellissimo! Love the appropriate amount of snark and humor for this clown.
We are lucky to have a channel and resource like you Dave. Keep up the awesome work man.
“you will not be in front of your science illiterate congregation and will be in front of educated people” -tour proceeds to reserve seats and stack the audience with his congregation and picks a biased moderator
Professor Dave out here helping me pass my biology course, while also significantly improving the intelligence and critical thinking skills of a whole generation. Videos like these got me out of the cult that is the Catholic Church. Thanks Dave
I'm an agnostic but I praying so hard that this debate happens.
Saaaaaaaame
Debates are kind of useless, especially when concerning scientific concepts.
@@ZimmZutinZayai Dave said "open discussion" which sounds better. I agree that debates are meaningless regarding scientific topics. Science is an investigation not politics, you don't settle it with fancy retoric or mere opinions.
Sure when the two people are discussing science in good faith. James is not, so he needs to be humiliated in front of a public audience.
@Saminul Haque Agreed. I still don't think Ol' Jimbo will accept.
It's really amazing to see how innocent Tour acts when discussing the age of the earth (It's not hard to see that he is subtly 'JAQing off') but does a complete U turn when it comes to OOL research. Looks like his confidence in a particular subject is strongly linked to his need to justify his religious beliefs.
Also sounds like there might be an anti-YEC arc coming up and i am HERE FOR IT!!!!
Yeah, that would be good. Gutsick Gibbon does some great work in that arena. She's a very creative Primatologist.
Yeah, I noticed that first bit too. "Does science know this? I dunno, science gets things wrong all the time. Look at this time science had the wrong hypothesis at first and it had to be changed. Now, let's talk about how some new science has totally upended everything that came before it. I am confident in this second set of science because reasons."
@@magicrectangleEnt This is the great logic of flatearthers as well when science "proofs" that the earth is not a perfect sphere, but due to rotation a tiny bit flattened on the poles it means science is totally wrong and the next day the earth could be a totally flat pizza or something like that.
Basically like Two-face from DC comics ?
I have to agree with Dave's characterization of James as a narcissist, because I've unfortunately grown up around quite a few of them where I live. James is nothing but an angry, buffoonish charlatan masquerading as the greatest scientist who's ever lived, and bravo to Dave for ensuring that anyone curious enough about James to search his name on RUclips will be acutely aware of that fact.
I swear, this series has been about 3 times as potent a means to get absolutely pumped as going on a rollercoaster. Seeing science denial get rebuked in such an unadulterated manner is truly a joy.
Absolutely! I almost feel guilty about my level of schadenfreude lol it's like huffing Reality
A fine exhibition of how to sift through bullshit. Well done Dave, watched all of these and loved it all.
37:07 I am laughing wayyy to hard at the idea of Dave slapping James with scientific papers. Please do it and then make him read the paper, so that he might actually learn something.
@@daveblock Sure dude, let's all believe supernatural causes made this world, we have absolutely no idea how life came to be and the only thing that could possibly explain the creation must be the almighty space wizard.
@@daveblock So you really don't watch Dave's content, do you? OOL is a nexus of many vastly complicated fields of study. The strides scientists make might mean nothing to you, which is sad but fine, so long as you don't place your ignorance and their achievements on equal footing.
"Scientists haven't closed all gaps or reproduced what took 100's of millions of years, thereby it couldn't have/ didn't happen" is the abiogenesis equivalent to flat-earther's "No spinning ball (soccer size) on earth (planet size) has ever been shown to retain surface water." That's like standing under a junkyard crane and expecting a fridgemagnet to outscale the crane's, hillariously ignorant.
Edit: Take 2, sober-ish:
If by "produced nothing", you mean mere decades of targeted research being unable to reproduce what took nature 100's of millions of years, that would reflect a lacking concept of the importance of scale. There is nothing shameful about insights into the inner workings of nature being beyond our personal understanding, because that's where most of us stand on anything. The horizon of "acceptable lines of inquiry" that limit our comprehension are shackles we may never want to leave unbroken. Assuming answers for personal comfort, to justify a prefered sense of self, is a selfserving and thereby selfdefeating search of enlightenment. I'd hate to think a decent god, if there is such a thing, would approve.
boppin him on the noggin with a packet of carbon
@@daveblock No, this is the discussion we would like to have. Prof. Dave is the one actually having this discussion. James Tour, and because you side with him, you, are having a discussion about creationism and how science doesn't work and we know nothing so let's just stick to religion. Science does work and we have a decent, not perfect, but decent understanding of how simple chemical compunds had the ability to separate, concentrate within small volumes with clear boundaries to the surrounding and allow for reactions within them. Our current chemical understanding of the world is at best 150 years old, deeper understanding more like 100. Even if we would have run continuous lab experiments for 150 years where we put together the compunds of the hadic earth and waited to have something happen, the chance of something happening is about 0%.
You need to understand one thing here: the unimaginable scale of time. Every patch on this earth RIGHT NOW has slightly different parameters and conditions, going from 2000°C lava to -70°C eternal ice, from 1100 bar pressure on the bottom of the sea to the peak of everest, from eternal darkness in caves to middle of the desert, from sweetwater to chemical cocktail of hydrothermal vents, millions of different rocks and sediments and billions of molecules that can be soluted in water or get touched by it.
It is an extremely heterogeneous place and only in one single place there need to be the right combination of chemical and physical conditions to get one tiny step in development of life. The whole surface of the whole earth as a single chemical playground, there are astronomical factors, geological factors, and most importantly: time. Do you understand how long it must have took until the first autocatalytic reactions happened to be within a self sustaining boundary? We are talking timescales that make human lifespans, the timescales of humanity itself look small. Plate tectonics pushed up the damn Himalayas in 50 MILLION years. Every life on land (first vertebrates, plants from moss to trees, over the dinosaurs to us) took nature the incredibly long time of 450 MILLION years. Try to get an idea of how long thid is. On the extremely heterogeneous surface of hadean earth, it took 500 MILLION years for he most basic idea of a cell to come together ONCE. Even more, cells have had the chance to become increasingly more complex for 4 BILLION years since then. 4 000 000 000 years.
How likely would you win the main jackpot in Lotto if you would play every day, 24 hours a day, every second, for just a few years? A hundred years? A thousand years? What's if you played Lotto for 100 000 years? 200 000 years? What's the chance you win at least once when you play Lotto for half a billion years? Everyone here understands: yes, the right combination of molecules at the right place at the right time are extremely rare. There probably were trillions of moments that were perfect but for one factor missing. There probably have been uncountable proto-cells come together by chance, only to fall apart instantly because the surrounding factors changed. When you think about the insane timescales we are talking about, modern life as we see it makes a lot more sense.
@@daveblock " abiogenesis and the fact it has produced nothing"
well, that would be an outright lie. but that's the way modern xians defend their "faith" right? with outright lies and projection.
You're just so good and thorough at exposing these funny quacks. Keep it up!
I hope Tour's ego is big enough that he actually agrees for the debate. That would be the most entertaining thing ever
You just wasted your money
@@imatexasfetushoescantkillm2768 I still prefer that over wasting my brain for charlatans
@@SapphireScroll Sad, you just throw money away
Supporting those of us who neutralize disgusting lying charlatans is money well spent, kiddo.
@@imatexasfetushoescantkillm2768 You can't waste Złotys they are backed by the Pope.
Dave, thank you for the hard work you do correcting this man's misguided beliefs. Loved the challenge at the end, and I would fly to Texas to attend if possible. I hope you'll announce this if possible so people can attend.
The comments at 28:10 are just amazing.
"James is older than you!"
"Is child r**e wrong???"
"You are excrement."
You couldn't make this stuff up. Great work, Dave - as always. Can't wait for the next time His Excellence Prof. Dr. Genius James Tour, PhD exposes you again.
Holy shit, Dave. For quite some time, I was worried that we'd never get a new generation of critical thinkers who are not afraid to appropriately confront the idiotic frauds like they deserve. But you belong there, you're one of the new horsemen of the apocalypse.
James Tour being a Young Earth Creationist is certainly a dealbreaker on this dude.
Because nothing from the previous videos broke that deal for you?
Not sure but he is almost a young earth creationist
@@daveblock watch the damn videos and know the context
@@Richard_Nickerson Hahah just saying. One could get away with a Creationist position and still argue against a scientific explanation for Origins of Life, but YECism is explicitly science denialism
@@daveblock I’m sorry but can you actually write a complete sentence?
what is very funny to me is that if this guy were truly a legitimate player in this field, he wouldn't have the time or interest to engage THIS much with some guy on youtube. at best, dave would have gotten a rushed, one-off commentary video from dr. tour's cluttered-ass office in between the innumerable other tasks he does daily to further science.
and yet here we are
I agree as an ex scientist now programmer. You don't have time when you aren't sleep deprived when you are conducting multiple research projects 😆
And we know he'll make responses to these too 🤦♂️
@@1g1d1w
🙄 Appeal to authority, despite the abundant evidence that doing so is not only a fallacy but a waste of time.
And something like the number of people who have downloaded his misinformation doesn't validate his misinformation 🙄🤦♂️
Having heard of Aron Ra's 'teaching evolution' challenge, either Tour has just not heard of it, or he's lying when he says no one has come forth.
Ok wow. I often (especially since COVID changed teaching so much) have recommended your videos as supplemental material for my high school chemistry students. I’ve watched a lot of your videos to preview and be sure they match my lessons, and I’ve always been happy with them, and trusted that you explain these concepts really well.
And then I stumbled on this. The joy I derive from watching another passionate science educator dismantle dishonest pseudoscience peddlers is fantastic. This is a side of your channel I didn’t know existed and didn’t know I needed. Thank you
"Dumber than the rocks whose age he doesn't know" is the most savage line ever
This whole drama is such a glorious example of the Streisand effect.
I haven't ever asked for a miracle before, but I would really love to see this debate happen.
So, if there is a God, would they allow this debate to happen? 🤣
@@icin4d Schrodinger’s debate
@@icin4d So if there's a Ben, why would He allow it to happen?
@@antondovydaitis2261 The correct answer is 42. 😁
Dave didn't point this out I don't think, but when an ID proponent says "we need new minds on this" referring to a field of science, they almost certainly mean they want their DI cronies to become the dominant voice in the field.
If there is a discussion, I'd love to see Tour be pressed on this. He should be asked specifically if he believes that scripture and religion have a place in OoL research going forward.
14:30 Another important point here is that James Tour deliberately doesn’t mention that Alvarez’s hypothesis was proven to be right after the Chixculub crater was discovered and then core drilled and dated to exactly the date range of the KPG extinction event indicated by the KPG boundary layer
It's really sickening to see him spew this nonsense and get away with it. It's so confusing that it's almost incoherent but he's acting as if he's exposing scientific fraud. Climate change wasn't a cause? Science is wrong for guessing about a meteor until evidence of one was found? And let's not forget, this is all wrapped up in the idea that the age of Earth is in question when the discovery of the crater doesn't change the estimate at all really.
I swear it's so illogical that it's like he's trying to say because we didn't find a huge crater until 1980 that every bit of science used to date the planet is based on bad information. He's just about calling for a global conspiracy on geology and physics. It's borderline flat Earth.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime As a chemist he also knows exactly how the age is validated and trusted. No doubt he’s likely worked with radioactive materials in his time and he’s likely all too aware of the nucelosynthesis of these elements and worse, he CAN ‘Vet that’ because it’s literally what his chemistry expertise taught him..
So it’s really funny to see him claim that he can’t when it’s one of the easiest things for him
James Tour taught me an important lesson. Now, when someone invokes his name , I know they can be safely ignored.
Hey Dave, just so you know: it's not even 15 minutes after you uploaded and there's already a lot of bots.
Edit: nevermind they got removed.
I'm always on it. I hate those things.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains everybody does. Your work is being appreciated!
@@ProfessorDaveExplains May I suggest ThioJoe's spammer purge tool? You can run it from a separate account if you not fully trust it (you should). It exists on github under the name "YT-Spammer-Purge".
@@ProfessorDaveExplains professor Dave the bladerunner retires bots and charlatans alike :O
I come back here every other day just to check if Tour is still chickening out of the debate. Looks like he is...
Professor Dave's debunks are things of absolute beauty. I can watch these takedowns all day long!
"...no matter how many times you show me falling off the drumset."
I don't know why, I just had to chuckle at this line and delivery. Humour is on point :-)
This is far and away the best material you have presented on Tour, Genesis timeline, Adam, and actual red blood cells, if anyone was In the slightest unconvinced about his true motivation...here we have it
Tour misrepresenting Schweitzers' research, like many creationists.
@@PaulaBean I hate that the very second he mention blood cells in a T-Rex, I knew he was talking about her work.
"Here's one where he's talking to fellow idiot Stephen Meyer"
Thanks for all the debunks
F***ing bullseye! I love Dave and his content! This was pure gold and had me smiling the whole time. Love the fact you called him out personally and threw the DI right in his face at the same time. Can’t wait for this debate, that is if James has the spine to accept. Don’t ever stop Dave, you’re my hero.
At 23:28 the little description for the playlist says:
Dr. Tour is back! In an amazing second season on abiogenesis (origin of life), Dr. Tour enlightens us yet again. This time, not only does Dr. Tour thwart a RUclipsr’s misguided understanding of chemistry, but he scrutinizes the details of chemists selected by the RUclipsr for engagement.
And I think that is hilarious because it sounds like a description for a superhero movie where Dr. Tour plays the heroic protagonist fighting against evil.
Superman is back! In an amazing second season on Justice League (A superhero team), Superman enlightens us yet again. This time, not only does Superman thwart a Super villain's misguided understanding of justice, but he scrutinizes the details of the villain's evil plan selected by Superman for engagement.
16:40 --- "Dumber than the rocks whose age he doesn't know" - Quote about James Tour from Dave Farina. (2/9/2023) but IMMORTAL.
Professor Dave: "James Tour is a scientifically illiterate moron, here's proof" (part one)
Also Professor Dave: "In case that wasn't clear enough, here's mountains more evidence" (parts 2-4)
@user-ec3dw3dm3t Begone, scammer
Part 2?
There is also the original video on the charlatan, plus the two response videos to Tours 14 series of over 9h 14 minutes science denial.
@@freddan6fly I appreciate you pointing out the error
On that note, I'm aware of the other videos Professor Dave has made on JT. However, as should be obvious, I was not referring to them in my comment on the fourth part of a new four part series
@@The_Ragequit_Cannon Fair enough. I mentioned the old ones just in case you had missed them. They are also gold.
I love how Dave is accepting the debate challenge.
But I would caution Dave to be specific on the debate topic.
If it is too loosely defined: Tour will introduce new papers which Dave cannot read in real time, thus Tour can lie about them and to the uneducated: Not calling his lies out right there is equal to not being able to do so in general. The debate should be limited to claims made by tour and the papers Dave already presented (and which Tour lied about). That way he cannot gish gallop his way out by piling lies upon lies.
Also: The good thing about Dave is that he does not need to be overly cordial. Conversations between researchers (or even those who do not know anything about the topic, like James tour, and actual researchers) tend to be civil to a point where the unreasonable side (read: James Tour) is being put on equal grounds in terms of respect. Dave does not need to do that. He can call a spade a spade.
When James is lying: Dave can call it like it is.
When James is misrepresenting actual experts: Dave can call it like it is.
When James is insulting researchers: Dave can call it like it is.
This can be circumvented by establishing and sharing papers before-hand and not allowing new papers to be brought into the debate. And not allowing someone to use a source outside of the accepted list of papers that were shared. So no bullshit surprise papers that allow anyone to weasel out of a topic. Of course, specifying topics before-hand would be fruitful as well.
@@Chemasaurus wont that just result in Tour digging things the chosen papers don't fully adress and whine about those, as then Dave cannot adress them with additional papers as that would be against the rules? From that Tour can then declare a victory, as that one small thing totally shows the entire thing is impossible, as long as he shouts it loid enough. I quess topic chosen can limit that, but I am unsure if that is enough.
@@Trombi01 Fair point. This is why live debates are garbage for advanced topics in science. I'm sure they'll have some reasonable set of rules if they have a debate.
@@Trombi01 "wont that just result in Tour digging things the chosen papers don't fully adress and whine about those, as then Dave cannot adress them with additional papers as that would be against the rules? From that Tour can then declare a victory, as that one small thing totally shows the entire thing is impossible, as long as he shouts it loid enough."
Well wasn't that kind of prophetic, given how things turned out.
With the expection that tour did not even try to dig into the paper to find some minute flaw, he just made some up, denied the papers say what they do and shouted loud enough.
And even then: Tour failed so misserably, that even christians are appaled by his behaviour.
The only way for you to be more accurate is if you called his chalk stunt in advance xD
Dave is probably one of the best debunkers out there. In the beginning, he was polite and courteous and politely pointing out facts. I love how now, you’ve just completely dropped this and are just utterly shattering all stupidity. You are doing great work to completely destroy stupidity.
The words "Hey, everyone!" Must cause a Pavlovian response in James Tour every time he hears it. 😅
Every time I stumble across videos like this I try to examine both sides even though I Trust professor Dave. I try to read all the references Dave does and and to cross reference with what the self proclaimed expert says and with a little help from articles and other sources I get the basic idea behind some of the topics discussed. I am not a lay person in science but I am a lay person at almost everything chemistry so I try to read carefully and try to grasp some of the ideas presented and make sense of it. At first I have difficulties but then at last I get the concept. And it amazes me that a person that has done experiments and has a sound understanding of science chooses to ignore whatever doesn't fit his world view because if a lay person like me understands the basic concepts of these very difficult topics how is it possible to a man like tour to outright deny facts that are so well researched. How a man lies to himself and to others like that is beyond me.
(Ps. Sorry for my English. It is not my first language)
I wish I could fly to Houston to witness this myself! Amazing series as always Dave
Mitochondrial Permeability Transition Driven Necrosis was the name of the technical death metal band I was in in college.
As someone who is religious glad to learn from you, dude definitely deserves the criticism
Do you have a good reason to believe without evidence....or do you just do it? Genuinly asking here.
Duuude, Prof. Dave is savage!
Thank you so much for your content, as someone who can't stand pseudoscience and dogmas... you are doing the world and academia a great service! Thanks to your debunk on quantum mysticism i got my parents back from a world full of shit.
Keep it up Professor!
James will never accept a debate. Some of the minions whose channels he goes on have offered me to debate James many times. I accepted each time. Never heard back.
Looks like even his minions know he'll never debate anyone, but like to throw the challenge anyway.
Greatest video series ever. The acceptance to debate face to face at the end was down right intimidating, I almost feel bad for Tour looking at this and feeling every security net and safeguard be torn away from him as he stands there alone, exposed and pale as a sheet. XD
I love also how everything that pops up first when looking up his name is all these debunks Demonstrating what a lying fool he is.
He won't show Ofcourse, as it's equivalent to expecting a man to willingly walk out unarmed and exposed and stand with his back to the firing squad wall with no blindfold. But boy were you going boss mode at the end there and I'd sure wish I could see it happen to him right up in his smug face 😏👌
Don't feel too bad for Tour- he's on the payroll of a many-million dollar religious corporate monolith. They'll take care of their poster boy
I had to stop at the "red blood cells". I am so sick of these guys KNOWING the truth about that situation, but showing how dishonest they are.
Yup. It's really disgusting that lie still exists.
I'm not even religious but you are literally doing God's work
He's doing the work of Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe, leaf be upon her.
@@DaWrecka Skep Tick for the win.
If Tour doesn't chicken out of this debate, i would LOVE to see it posted somewhere, unedited, so i can just watch him crumble. Those that share his faith and the loose ways in which the biblical commandments are applied are the reason i became initially agnostic, and then atheistic, and seeing you tearing people like this to shreds fills me with SO much joy. Please continue what you're doing, both with teaching and debunking nonsense like this. You're doing the world and the scientific community a great service by doing this. Thank you so much for doing it.
Ah yes, the best way to get space travel was to shut down the early research because it didn't immediately work.
Obviously, how else did you think we did it?
We stole german rocket science, which was actually from atlantis, but they in turn got it from the blonde blue eyed skyfather ofc. Its a simple matter
You can see documentation of it in a documentary from a while back, it was called raiders of the lost arc i think 🤔
Dave's debunks are masterpieces and an art form in and of itself, but did not expect him to throw down the gauntlet at the end of this series. WOW. I so so so wish this debate will happen. It would be GLORIOUS. Popcorn is READY. Though I have a feeling James will readily accept at first, and back out due to "unforeseen circumstances" and hope we will forget about the whole thing. WE WILL NOT FORGET. :)
He had promised he would throw down
"Cold feet James" shall forever be his name if he doesn't accept the debate.
I love seeing your content, seeing you speak harshly and shedding the veneer of 'polite discussion' will never cease to make me smile. So many liars try to hide behind fake niceness to avoid having their character utterly torn apart, and you break right through it. I'm not a donator but those are my two cents, cheers!
Dave was respectful of Tour in the first video which began this journey. Tour's deserved everything he's gotten since his rage series which followed Dave's first vid.
The level of savagery in this video is sky high and I absolutely love every second of it😂
I feel like I should watch Tour's last series just for laughs
I just want to draw attention to the fact that at 28:09 one of the commenters on screen said "Dave eats fecal." and thought that was a genuinely good response to the video. Outstanding rebuttal.
Yeah not to mention his username being "gayseatfecal" lmao. Truly multiple levels of originality and class.
And let's not rule out that he was paid by the DI to troll Dave with that comment.
The absolute saddest thing,
He has an easy way out of all of this.
"I, James tour, do not understand the research, and shall not pretend to"
@15:00 bingo! Tour could only be getting the blood cells & collagen in dinos stuff from (unspecified) YEC apologetics. There's a reading list lurking behind his public facade that he's very reluctant to share (or fact check).
Go get him tiger!
I’m just a regular chemist, not a supremely superior synthetic chemist, but I really enjoyed this series. And as a chemist myself, I can see how James can convince some neophytes to believe all this nonsense, because let’s admit it, he is good to make himself look credible even when he is clueless. And that’s precisely why this debunk is important. It may not convince his followers, but it can teach those on the verge of falling into the net of some charlatan like him. I see this kind of debunking videos more like a preventive medicine than a cure for the already affected, if you will.
The world needs more Dave Farina. I bought your book and I’ve been enjoying your content for a while, now. Well it’s time I really support this channel vis Patreon. Keep going, you good sir.
Yes, please. If James, somehow, gets the balls to follow through and meet you for a "debate", please make a short video announcing the date and time (hopefully live-streamed to your channel) so we are notified through our subscription. I appreciate your balance of showing and explaining with calling it what it is.
27:35 I wondered where they all got that idea on blocking and deleting. The sadly amusing part is that it took Dave to tell me where it came from because each time I asked a Tour fan they could never give me the reference.
As a Chemist myself (Quantum Chemistry), I feel ashamed that James Tour got through, and got a diploma in Chemistry, that man need to learn some basic Science :(
He´s the kind of bs that loves to use complicated words, that people who aren´t in the field, have difficulty in understanding, as a cover for his lack of knowledge in the field, those people are the worst....
This one was by far my favorite in the series. 10/10 it will be a weekly rewatch for a while.
Dave should've been a lawyer. Complete breakdown, piece by piece, in an easy to understand way. Well done, sir!
Tour's whole, "We don't know anything!" is textbook obscurantism.
What I love about this is that the first video that kicked it all off was relatively tame and bordering on polite. And then James opened his mouth.
I'm a Christian, but please Dave, destroy this James Tour at all cost ! Thank you !
James Tour doesn't even seem to know what the God of the Gaps is. He thinks it's about claiming that we will never know if we don't know now, but that's not what it means. It's about accepting God as an explanation if you don't have a better one currently.
Lol “Dave eats fecal” is the greatest rebuttal of all time…. Instantly wins EVERY debate
It was on part 1 or 2 of this series, on an account less than a day old. Now the account is gone, with the comment. Probably for breaking the TOS.
Easy to understand, educational, and entertaining. Thank you again and again.
"here's him talking to fellow idiot Stephen Mayer" 🤣 classic
Dear Professor Dave,
it was and is a pleasure to listen to the scientifically very reasoned explanations. Piece by piece very clear comments while the other side hardly gets beyond the "bible".
It never ceases to amaze me that someone uneducated can continue to pass himself off as an expert while every statement he makes is completely beside the point.
I am following this with great respect from Belgium-Europe.
Mark, a former elementary school teacher.
"I delete spam comments. Do you know what spam means?" This one's easy! Spam is a type of meat substance sold in cans! Dave's lessons are so easy!
Also, I think the only error I find in this series is when you said you were "Singlehandedly demolishing your [Tour's] entire house of cards". You are certainly doing amazing work, and I could see why you would write it this way for the purpose of the script and keeping it catchy and understandable, but people like Forrest Valkai, Seth Andrews, Matt Dillahunty, AronRa, and some others that I can't name off of the top of my head, as well as pretty much the entire scientific community, is utterly demolishing every single detail of James' entire worldview and doing so repeatedly and concisely every single day. Their contributions can't be understated, and I highly recommend checking them out for anyone who may be reading this
It is really sexy to watch Dave dunk on morons and liars.
I've been watching you for a long time. I have come to envy your confidence, which is outside the scope of your channel. Don't underestimate how your behavior is positively influencing your viewers.
The further away I got from Christianity the more I saw parallels with the Taliban.
Okay, this has to be the most brutal breakdown I have ever seen. Yes, even compared to the GlobeBusters one and that one was already savage to a high degree. You sir show absolutely no mercy. I'd hate to be that guy.
I'm going to be honest, this whole mini series was completed faster than I expected! Great job, Dave! I love these videos that you had carefully crafted for us to watch!
Final dunk on James tour lets go!
It was fun while it lasted, but I'll be glad never see James on this channel again
Be assured, Tour is the gift that keeps on giving. Fundamentalist religious nutbaggery is an inexhaustible reservoir of stupid. That man will stay deluded to his grave. Being deluded while loud and confident ensures he will never stop having an audience of deluded sheep to sell lies to.
"Dave eats fecal" -gayseatfecal
The caliber of reply that James Tour, genius among geniuses, feels warrants a response.