Yeah, but these are permanent, no time limit, do them whenever you want. Also WoW type content will keep coming, the entire year. (Spring, Summer and Autumm of .. whatever). So by your logic, there wouldn't have been a good time to ever release these.
@@Cris.S.and by your logic, you just want to ignore the issues with Kabam’s greedy content recently… Kabam shouldn’t make these resource draining challenges all the way through they year
He's great, you're not too shabby yourself. I appreciate all of the Content Creators, most of you I find very likeable, you especially so. You are a friendly and positive person. You will always find jealous people. I will never be the best painter. I will never be the best at this game, but I love the challenge. Take care.
You nailed it about the “string of fights”. It’s a nightmare to have to do all these fights consecutively. People who designed this content have a huge advantage.
The problem is that some pieces of content are essentially poorly designed. The moment they create content putting in consideration specific masteries, boosts, and item usage, is the moment it becomes flawed.
I agree with everything you say, except for one thing, that is, if you think the average end game player will have to only use 15 revives for some of those challenges you're in for a surprise, and that's where it becomes annoying and why people hate these challenges. It's just going to become a money grab for kabam. (Just criticism, no hate on anyone)
I think it's interesting how you and I approach content like this so similarly. I often talk on streams about the importance of giving yourself every advantage possible and to that end, I enjoy ranking up champs for specific purposes like this. Things like itemless are self-made challenges that I do for fun because as you state, story content is otherwise not that interesting. I do disagree about what you said regarding Necropolis though. You could have had a more interesting preamble to Necropolis if you had chosen to not use Aegon for the majority of it. Not judging your choice of course; using Aegon is perfectly fine. To hear you speak about how exciting it is to rank up champs for specific fights and the buildup to doing content but then to turn around and just plow through 3 paths with Aegon - those two things don't really seem to align. In any case, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts as usual.
If I had chosen to ignore my top champion for it, yes, it could have been more interesting. Just like ignoring my free crystals is making the challenge more difficult. But sometimes I want the game to push me and not just using self imposed challenges to make the game interesting. When playing by Kabam's rules, Necropolis prep ended 3 years ago.
The “preamble” part of this conversation was excellent. 100% agree. The fact that you have to think even a little hit is nice. Beating content like that gives you a sense of accomplishment. Excellent, excellent, excellent.
I don’t care if they make content for the 1% as long as they make content for the 99%. Where is Act 8.4 where are the back issues, where are the mid-tier challenges for the average player Kabam needs to stop catering to the whales and the RUclipsrs and give the average Joe something
The entire banquet event was geared towards mid range folks and locked out the top. Everything other than the Karinas challenges and winter of whoa is way too easy. Including monthly event quest. It just doesn’t get hype because people that seem to hype Stuff up are all top end players. Mid range folks don’t need more content, they need better public relations.
@@lovejoy1311 The Banquet event was not a gameplay mode. So, that does not count. There was no content associated with it. And two, your point monthly events are for the newer players. IE, why I said mid-tier content. For those at the high end of Paragon and need help getting to Valiant
The preamble was great, and totally in line with my thoughts on the new challenges, then you make me completely rethink my first impressions. Great job, fresh perspective, amazingly good content.
When you say you want to be able to face challenges you are not ready for, forcing you to rank up specific, skill intensive champs and forcing you to be creative in approaching the content strategically... all that should lead to a pay off. And I don't mean rewards. If after all those challenge requirements are met and you have what you believe is the best strategy, the right champs and a considerable increase in the skill of using these champs after countless hours of practice and you STILL can't go through it without pumping in 50+ revives and/or a considerable amount of units... then it is a flawed design.
The creators are having a hard time to understand the backlash. Of course nobody is being "FORCED" to do the challenges Just like nobody is being "FORCED" to become paragon/valiant Or download this game. Doesn't excuse the fact that the majority of people dont want to use someone else's favorite champ (ZEMO) for 2+ hours
Well said I agree with almost everything, i don’t think the issue is ranking up champ for challenges the thing is the resources for those champs required aren’t cheap and using those resources on a champ u don’t care to use, now if for example it says if you go in with tigra you start with a 30% fury and start the fight unblockable for 15 seconds then you can either bring another champ or rank tigra for the bonus because there’s an incentive for using the ccp champs
I don't mind that it's just for the top. It's permanent so we'll get there at some point. The problem imo is that the rewards are already not that good, let alone in a few months or years.
@@IsmaelSaboerali I get what you mean but less people can do these challenges than nerco. imo necro is the guide line for fun but challenging content the planning, amount of characters that can do it, the resource investment for rewards
@quenky1 is not exactly what I meant, I mean, there is no chase anymore it feels like, unlike when first there are so many things you want and need that's its actually exciting to get, like couple Years ago I so hype to finally get a 4 star doctor Doom, now when I pull a six version ok some mystic iso
When Jax said they no longer code the game with FTP players in mind... that's the writing on the wall.. the suits took over.. the game is on a deathbed :-( I hate writing that.
@azevedo1046 I don't know if he said exactly that, but he did time isn't an important commodity, and they won't be factor that into the market of the game
@@azevedo1046he said your time spent in game doesn't matter to them. Every single second wasted by every single person in game has no Value. Has no metric in game as per kabam jax
he said they no longer make dev decisions with the idea that time in game is a factor... IE they want people to pay to win. If he didn't mean it that way, he should have clarified it... he hasn't.@@azevedo1046
I left my alliance a month ago , who has 2 of the top 3 players in the world cus I felt like a slave to the game doing war and AQ and having to hit BGs minimums .. i only play battle grounds now for fun cuz I refuse to give Kabam money and I also refuse to mind numbingly do arena or try to slowly mine for revives for Endgame content .. I’m just about out the door after 7 years of playing .. even BGs ain’t worth gaining points anymore cus the solo rewards are trash , hitting GC for the emotes is the best part .. this game has completely lost its luster .. I’m grateful I’ve seen the light after all this time ..
Please try to acknowledge that the 99% of the community DO NOT jave MCOC as their daily job mate. Stop trying to sugarcoat the stupidest thing Kabam made. Just because those people are your "friends" this does not justify taht literally created those challenges to show the majority pf the MCOC players middle finger!
He acknowledged the argument of the 99% in the beginning, and then spent the rest of it discussing why it’s not true for him, and him alone. He doesn’t have to be you or have to represent your mentality. This kind of content was built for people like him. And that specifically why I support this content, I want people like Brian to have something to do on Stream that pushes them. I like to watch that. I don’t have to like to do it.
@@lovejoy1311 are you working for Kabam or you're just a simp? Having the tribune as all those RUclipsrs is a double edge sword and they don't use it properly. You're pathetic try to justify this nonsense ain't gonna make any credible in the community, mate. Jog on.
Of course you love these challenges. Contrarian to the end. These challenges are a victim of bad timing, pure and simple. If we had nothing in the game and this dropped, cool. It’s pretty daunting but it gives us something to do. When you pile it on top of Necropolis from November, the crush 2.0 tactic in war that’s killing top tier alliances in waves, Raids with damage caps for some reason, and of course a revive system to punch through it, Winter of Woe for yet another revive fest system, and now these string of challenges that test your revive stash. A “challenge” is great. NOT at every corner of the game, and certainly not every week. Timing is everything. The game needs balance and fun, period. It has neither at the moment, but it’s not too late.
I don't play the game anymore but keep up with your videos for this kind of content! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and holding space for other players' frustrations.
Hi Brian. A few things, but I do want to preface by thanking you for sharing your thoughts on the challenge. When you say “I see you”, that doesn’t mean much to me (and I’m sure it doesn’t to other people) because actions speak louder than words do. So if you or Kabam aren’t going to do anything to alleviate the situation, then your words don’t mean much (at least to me). One of my biggest frustrations of the game and the weak excuse of people saying “This is permanent content” or “You don’t have to do this” is why create something that a majority of the players do not want to participate in. One of the reasons challenges like this upset me, personally, is because of how the game is designed from the standpoint of how AI works. I think you’d understand it like this: You said your favorite game was Diablo 2. Correct me if I’m wrong, but some things in MMORPG games like Diablo are challenging because it’s new content therefore you’d have to understand how the AI works, how it moves in certain phases, etc. But the problem with MCOC is that you can’t have that consistently. You can recall all of the times you played PERFECTLY but you could still get screwed because of how the AI operates sometimes. So it’s hard to want to play these “challenging” contents when you can still get screwed. I’m not saying things should not be difficult, but when things are difficult and out of your control - it becomes a whole other level of frustration. These are just my thoughts though.
The challenges were designed for the top 1% and never insinuated that they were meant to be done itemless. They told you upfront that the challenge were going to be ultra difficult. There are plenty of other challenges in the game that you can tackle that are both time based and permanent content. No one is forcing you to do the hardest challenges possible, this is true for literally every game in production. Sure, Kabam has been unethical and money hungry but seriously, stop acting like every challenge has to be designed with the entire community in mind. That's not a challenge. Second, if you don't like the challenge and how it was constructed there is zero reason to personally attack the content creator who designed the challenge.
You need to understand that there are somethings that are not meant for you. Your entitled mindset is the issue, if AI isnt the issue, its the number of fights or the number of revives you'd use. It isnt meant for you. MSD, Beroman, Pepe have all attempted this challenge and liked it because that is target audience. You are not.
@@bushidobrown6742 nothing from my comment indicates that I somehow have an “entitled” attitude. Nowhere did I imply everyone should do it. However, your comment does show how ignorant you are. Since you didn’t see Bero’s comments on the forum, let me remind you that he didn’t find the rewards gained equal to the difficulty required. He even stated in his stream he only did the Tigra challenge because he wanted the emote, not because of anything else. And Bero is a Top player. KT1 is also a Top player and is not a fan of these challenges. You can name Pepe and MSD all you want, but there are others who feel otherwise.
4 things: 1. Thank you for the reply. 2. I can't "alleviate the situation" in any way you described because I don't work for Kabam. I have no control in the situation other than giving feedback, which I did say there's an overabundance of certain types of challenge in game atm so we might at least agree on something, I dont know. 3. Diablo 2 is my favorite of all time. And I do love MMOs. These games are well known for not just being able to play around the AI tho. It doesn't matter if you play perfectly in an MMO. You can play PERFECTLY and the boss will one shot you if you didn't farm the right gear/consumables to give you enough health to survive. The challenge in games like World of Warcraft has less to do with the encounter itself, and much more to do with how you prepared for it. Finding all the best items you can, coming together as a community to figure out best rotations, etc. 4. Your opinion is still valid. The whole point of saying that is just to say that two people can have valid opinions, even when coming from different perspectives. You don't like this content. I get it. We all get it. I'm not trying to change your mind about it. I'm just saying that I do like it. We are not enemies. We are not opposing forces. We just like to play games differently.
It was a day after I completed the Robot Object for the abs man fight that I was reminded of the Collector and of the Grandmaster. To become Uncollected, I was stuck for a day and begged my alliance to gift me revives. And the first time I fought the Grandmaster, I had to spend my revives stash along with 3k units. I didn't spend a unit on Abs man, so maybe it's not the worse thing ever haha
Happy BD , BG. I undersrand what youre saing and i also like the planing phase in challenges. Karina 3 eop was my favorite and i rank up odin shuri and moondragon for necro. I dont see "runk up and sig up certain champion" as planing phase wich i also enjoy in this game. I did way more planing for necro. Fun planing phase was triple Juggernaut run in eop. It will be filling as bad if next objective in Winter would be "defeat boss with Luke Cage" without any choise. To be fair , I think kabam could easily save CCP members buy adding 3-4 CCP gem and 100 CCP sigstones that can only be used on champions from the selector for every comlete challenge . As f2p player who plays in high platinum wars I simply cant efford to waste 200 sig stones on black widow despite being valiant. So this challenge is made by whales for whales.
BG is happy to have something to force him to make decisions for finally using his god damn expiring ressources. The dude have a 3 millions account that would be 5,5 millions if he just opened and used his ressources.
You want a challenge go do them spend those units it’s not viable for everyone to farm building up resources for hours each day.Go do them before you defend them.
Hey guys. Just want to put my perspective on things. Apologies for my english. When kabam said that this content isn't for everyone and is completely optional, I just felt sad and left out. This content is for the people that still compete or strive for something. They have enough units and motivation for such challenges (just look at BG here). Now I ask myself, should I do them? Or should I keep on following my original plan, that I conceived during the new progression title announcement? I choose the latter of course. I still have 8.2 to explore and prepare as many resources and units as I can for 8.4 and finally get valiant title. So in conclusion, the player is you. If you dont find some content satisfactory, I wont blame you. If possible, thy to evaluate what you current goals are, what you want to achieve personally and start from there. For me, I am sure I will find something to focus on after 8.4
As a returning player, seeing all these people complain is hilarious. These people forget the pain of slashed tires Juggernaut back in the day. What is a game without a challenging aspect that can't be done in an instant try.
It's a revive fest, they specify the champs you should use which barely work. There's no skills, no enjoyment in using your favourate champs, no strategies , just use these champs that barely work and revive.
Brian, what is the difference between running lower act content over and over for revives versus doing the same type of fight in arena over and over and over? To me they are the same thing but you always have crapped on revive farming but will spend hours and hours streaming in arena. In the end these challenges will be possible for you as a F2P player bcuz you have so many units from grinding arena. Essentially kabam is forcing the player base to grind arena or spend money on units so you would have the resources to get thru the challenge.
Fair enough. To me the confusing part was ‘community challenge’. Especially after Brutal DLX which gave some pretty darn fine 7 stars. If they had given more forewarning and called them just carina, Uber hard ones, new generation of them, then yes. I still haven’t done some. Community challenges means more inclusive to me. These are top of top. Congrats to folks doing them. I’m not good enough for them and that’s fine. I wish they were all around lags level and restricted to 5 stars. They said one day before or day of launch few will succeed. That’s totally fine. The rewards are nice but not game changing. Really do feel less than 1% will do or maybe even attempt. So the whole community thing Uber confusing. And they went to overturned IMO. I expect to see very few 7 stars of these champs ever in the wild. Maybe that’s the intent.
I'm old enough to remember when the Abyss was touted as the hardest content ever; then, nearly every RUclipsr blew through it on the first day while the majority of the player base ignored it entirely and the rewards became outdated within four months of release -- hence the reason they had to basically beg people to play the Necropolis via their "rewards for deaths" gimmick. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if they do the Necro gimmick for the next set of CCs when 99% of the player base completely ignores these ones.
Tin foil hat on: Lagacy, Fintech and Mike paIred with Kabam to come up with hard fights that the community would hate BG paired with Kabam to soften the blow and ease the hate Kabam would build up against content creators
Seems like you're more excited about the resource management than anything. The only thing you seem to be finding fun, is the biggest thing people have a problem with. They don't want to allocate resources to the champs selected. You love the "challenge" of getting those specific champs to a usable state. Two perspectives talking past each other.
It just reminds me of the of realm of legends, I didn’t complete it until I had tons of 5*s, this type of content is for people who really want a challenge, it’s not designed for everyone. The champs you get aren’t game breaking they’re just exclusives that are nice to have. I’ll be doing the starky challenge for the deathless piece and that’s it, I don’t see the need to attempt the others
Interesting perspective on being bored. It is interesting to me the disparity between the long term players 5+ years and players like me. Coming up on one year in the game. I don’t share your sentiment but it’s nice to hear these challenges are making someone happy
Much respect to you BG. That statement might not carry much weight behind it due to my current milestone in this game. However, I do share my respect to your commitment to staying free to play & advocating to express the game content via the perspective of free to play. Your distinct opinions, standpoints & shared strategies are appreciated. I wish to see you in the Battle Realm. God Banana Speed
I hear you, your points are valid. But why didnt design a challenge for a champion he had at rank 1 and hates using? This just feels like the creators made challenges for themselves to do and not for the community
Thank you Brian for using your brain and coming up with a well spoken and well thought out monologue on the situation…I wish the vocal minority in this community would do the same sometimes.
I am not supporting the abusers and people who put forward death threats . And this challenge doesnt have game changing rewards. U can skip it if u like (no one is doing 4* LOL carina challenge) BUT TBH, its more so how arrogantly Karatemike and FINTECH SPECIALLY reacted to the criticism that fueled the fire KM- “IDGAF” about the community backlash. Dude, THIS same community which supported you throughout the years. He could have just said, i gracefully accept ur criticism but guys, it is what it is, and then counter with his justification. And now Fintech. Dude literally said he wants to be remembered as THAT guy who created a difficult challenge. He wants to satisfy his EGO by putting community through hard time. Again, the content is whatever for me, Its the arrogant attitude they took that bothers me. Is the community just a tool for these guys?
Welp, this game and community just aren't for me. Been here 6 years and Im stopping logging in. The whales dont care and the f2p CCP dont get it. It'll never change. Thanks for the years of content.
Hey BG, I’m a long time viewer but first find commenter, I just feel like this has to be said It’s always so nice to hear ur unique perspective on this, however, I was really hoping that you’d speak more about how much hate kiratemike and fintech are getting (I’ve seen them get literal death threats). I mean, I personally will only be doing lagacys challenge due to my skill level and roster, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna tell Mike or Fintech to k*ll themselves for making difficult content. Kabam literally asked them to make hyper difficult content, and they delivered. Anyway, I feel that if you had requested the community to be less toxic towards Mike and Fintech, it would have gone a long way coming from you and actually make an impact I am genuinely scared for Mike’s and fintech’s mental state, and I really hope they get through this
When you said “let me tell you a story about when i started playing this game…” and you had 28 minutes left until ur dust expired i had a heart attack… USE THE DUST BRIAN USE THE DUST NOW STOP TALKING USE THE DUST AHHHHHHHH.
The thing about those champions some people don’t like and never want to use them I myself have 5* Spider-Man (MCU) max lvl 1 rank and both 5&6 star black widow at max lvl 1 will I take them up after I’ll rank up all the other champions that I have and for the 2 Spider-Man and the deadpool rip off 7stars they poor and limited choice, the only 2 7star Spider-Men missing is Miles Morales and symbiote there was no variety.
They don't all need Sig 200 though. The Zemo challenge revolves around bleeding the enemies, not critting through block (or more damage crits, though it helps), Jabari is barely used, the Sig for Tigra just helps get things started, etc. The only one that really *needs* Sig 200 is Black Widow. Most every other Champ, a midrange Sig level is sufficient.
People saying only the top 1% can enjoy this challenge are so wrong. I am nowhere near the top 1%, but I’ve done two of the wow objectives and am preparing myself to do these new carinas. And enjoying every step of it. The demographic of people who enjoy it are not limited to spenders or whales or only the most skilled. It’s people who love challenging content, like Brian said. So for the people who say that these challenges are too hard or need too many resources, that’s valid for you. Just know that there are people that have been waiting for challenges like this and have different opinions on how they enjoy the game than you. If we could all respect each other in that way, then this community wouldn’t be as toxic as it has been the last few days.
Holy smokes! It’s.A.Game. Don’t like Kabam, don’t spend. Don’t like the challenge, don’t play. Wonderful thing about this game. You can choose to play it or not, spend or not. 3 people had their hand in creating content that would be enjoyed. They didn’t have to do it, and Kabam didn’t have to make it permanent. There is plenty of content I struggle with and cannot do. Oh well. I’ll get there, or I won’t, but at the end of the day, it’s a game. Fintech, Lagacy, and Karatemike, thank you for taking the time to put this together for all of us. I may never get through it, but that’s okay. I for one appreciate the thought. Hope you decide to do more of it, and aren’t disillusioned by those who take to the keyboard warrior brigade and use words they don’t quite understand.
Dont mind a chalange but to be fair you dont have war and aq rank ups to hold for either cuz ur not active in that plus we dont have buddies on call to walk us threw it msd ect we still have challange u just have msd say o use this do thst nothing aginst u bg much luv just doesnt seem like u have a complete grasp and everything sny more war wise single player wise
To be fair him being inactive makes it even more difficult for him to produce the rank ups necessary for the challenges and as mentioned in the comment above his stream vods with people on call will be available to you as well
I do agree with the post here. He doesn’t have to rank up champs for AQ, AW as well as BGs. Even then I think he will need 1000 Sig stones for champs needed to complete these challenges so I don’t see him completing these anytime soon
@@mohsinmaqsoodmariono one has to do any of that? I dropped my ally this year to do other things. And if you say that you have to do those things to get the rank of materials you need, then how is that any different to what Brian is doing?
A lot of the challenges and content are extremely difficult for the majority of the people that play the game. The game is unplayable for those who don’t spend real money. The game has become unfun. KABAM is a money hungry company?
I gotta say... BG is a awesome Marvel contest of champions RUclipsr... Battlegrounds is not my Favourite content he does... But this new content looks awesome
Some of y'all in the comments still don't get it. Kabam is not the only company to ever put out a challenge designed to test the top 1% of its player base. Every challenge does not have to be met and every challenge cannot be viewed through the lens of players like KM, MSD, or Pepe. If you want to try the challenge ( and they are more than fair) then do it, if not stop attacking the creator personally. Everybody isn't going to be skilled enough to get through it and that's ok. That's the entire point of a challenge.
@quenky1 those content creators are part of the top 1% and like to challenge each other to see who's the best of the best. Stop bitchin just because you can't do itemless. Hell even the creators couldn't do every single one itemless. Again, they were upfront it was going to be very very difficult. That's your fault you couldn't comprehend what that meant. Everything isn't meant for everyone.
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They’ve had 2 death challenges within a month of nerfing revives. They’re clearly testing to see if people are willing to spend on revives
Yeah, but these are permanent, no time limit, do them whenever you want.
Also WoW type content will keep coming, the entire year. (Spring, Summer and Autumm of .. whatever). So by your logic, there wouldn't have been a good time to ever release these.
When are they NOT testing our willingness to spend on items? Have you played this game long??
They clearly have a dwindling player base, see the writing on the wall, and need to capitalize on a much revenue before they close the game.
Woe man is soloable tbh
@@Cris.S.and by your logic, you just want to ignore the issues with Kabam’s greedy content recently… Kabam shouldn’t make these resource draining challenges all the way through they year
This is why Brian has always been and will continue to be my fav RUclipsr his attitude and outlook on things are just unmatched
He's great, you're not too shabby yourself. I appreciate all of the Content Creators, most of you I find very likeable, you especially so. You are a friendly and positive person. You will always find jealous people. I will never be the best painter. I will never be the best at this game, but I love the challenge. Take care.
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You nailed it about the “string of fights”. It’s a nightmare to have to do all these fights consecutively. People who designed this content have a huge advantage.
1 of carinas challenges should be “smoke some crack”
The problem is that some pieces of content are essentially poorly designed. The moment they create content putting in consideration specific masteries, boosts, and item usage, is the moment it becomes flawed.
I agree with everything you say, except for one thing, that is, if you think the average end game player will have to only use 15 revives for some of those challenges you're in for a surprise, and that's where it becomes annoying and why people hate these challenges. It's just going to become a money grab for kabam. (Just criticism, no hate on anyone)
I think it's interesting how you and I approach content like this so similarly. I often talk on streams about the importance of giving yourself every advantage possible and to that end, I enjoy ranking up champs for specific purposes like this. Things like itemless are self-made challenges that I do for fun because as you state, story content is otherwise not that interesting.
I do disagree about what you said regarding Necropolis though. You could have had a more interesting preamble to Necropolis if you had chosen to not use Aegon for the majority of it. Not judging your choice of course; using Aegon is perfectly fine. To hear you speak about how exciting it is to rank up champs for specific fights and the buildup to doing content but then to turn around and just plow through 3 paths with Aegon - those two things don't really seem to align. In any case, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts as usual.
If I had chosen to ignore my top champion for it, yes, it could have been more interesting. Just like ignoring my free crystals is making the challenge more difficult. But sometimes I want the game to push me and not just using self imposed challenges to make the game interesting. When playing by Kabam's rules, Necropolis prep ended 3 years ago.
Great points
The “preamble” part of this conversation was excellent. 100% agree. The fact that you have to think even a little hit is nice. Beating content like that gives you a sense of accomplishment. Excellent, excellent, excellent.
I don’t care if they make content for the 1% as long as they make content for the 99%.
Where is Act 8.4 where are the back issues, where are the mid-tier challenges for the average player
Kabam needs to stop catering to the whales and the RUclipsrs and give the average Joe something
The entire banquet event was geared towards mid range folks and locked out the top. Everything other than the Karinas challenges and winter of whoa is way too easy. Including monthly event quest. It just doesn’t get hype because people that seem to hype Stuff up are all top end players. Mid range folks don’t need more content, they need better public relations.
@@lovejoy1311 The Banquet event was not a gameplay mode. So, that does not count. There was no content associated with it. And two, your point monthly events are for the newer players. IE, why I said mid-tier content. For those at the high end of Paragon and need help getting to Valiant
May the joy you have spread come back to you one day, may God bless you with all the happiness!! Wishing you a very happy birthday Brian!🎂🎉
I won't lie when I admit that a perspective like this is refreshing to see.
Great video, as always. Happy Birthday. 🥳🎉
The preamble was great, and totally in line with my thoughts on the new challenges, then you make me completely rethink my first impressions. Great job, fresh perspective, amazingly good content.
When you say you want to be able to face challenges you are not ready for, forcing you to rank up specific, skill intensive champs and forcing you to be creative in approaching the content strategically... all that should lead to a pay off.
And I don't mean rewards.
If after all those challenge requirements are met and you have what you believe is the best strategy, the right champs and a considerable increase in the skill of using these champs after countless hours of practice and you STILL can't go through it without pumping in 50+ revives and/or a considerable amount of units... then it is a flawed design.
The creators are having a hard time to understand the backlash.
Of course nobody is being "FORCED" to do the challenges
Just like nobody is being "FORCED" to become paragon/valiant
Or download this game. Doesn't excuse the fact that the majority of people dont want to use someone else's favorite champ (ZEMO) for 2+ hours
Well said I agree with almost everything, i don’t think the issue is ranking up champ for challenges the thing is the resources for those champs required aren’t cheap and using those resources on a champ u don’t care to use, now if for example it says if you go in with tigra you start with a 30% fury and start the fight unblockable for 15 seconds then you can either bring another champ or rank tigra for the bonus because there’s an incentive for using the ccp champs
my only problem is not the challenges it's the idea of creating content for 1% is just dumb
So true. Does kabam not realize that most of the player base are not MSD?
Like we died 15 millions times on necropolis 😂
I don't mind that it's just for the top. It's permanent so we'll get there at some point. The problem imo is that the rewards are already not that good, let alone in a few months or years.
The reward is a couple 7* champs. Nothing "must have". Get your deathless KG piece in the Lagacy "challenge" and call it a day
The 1% being whales and content creators
@@IsmaelSaboerali I get what you mean but less people can do these challenges than nerco. imo necro is the guide line for fun but challenging content the planning, amount of characters that can do it, the resource investment for rewards
I remember how fun it was for you trying to get aegon so many crystal openings just to be able to to content.
yea to be honest the further you get in the game the less fun it is
@@quenky1I kinda like learning about all the bosses, their phases, mechanics etc.
@quenky1 is not exactly what I meant, I mean, there is no chase anymore it feels like, unlike when first there are so many things you want and need that's its actually exciting to get, like couple Years ago I so hype to finally get a 4 star doctor Doom, now when I pull a six version ok some mystic iso
When Jax said they no longer code the game with FTP players in mind... that's the writing on the wall.. the suits took over.. the game is on a deathbed :-( I hate writing that.
Did he actually said that? Because that's just a very stupid and fucked up mindset to be having
@azevedo1046 I don't know if he said exactly that, but he did time isn't an important commodity, and they won't be factor that into the market of the game
@@azevedo1046he said your time spent in game doesn't matter to them. Every single second wasted by every single person in game has no Value. Has no metric in game as per kabam jax
@@kalantakmcoc Well that's just a really stupid argument to have. What matters to them, money? Is that only it?
he said they no longer make dev decisions with the idea that time in game is a factor... IE they want people to pay to win. If he didn't mean it that way, he should have clarified it... he hasn't.@@azevedo1046
I left my alliance a month ago , who has 2 of the top 3 players in the world cus I felt like a slave to the game doing war and AQ and having to hit BGs minimums .. i only play battle grounds now for fun cuz I refuse to give Kabam money and I also refuse to mind numbingly do arena or try to slowly mine for revives for Endgame content .. I’m just about out the door after 7 years of playing .. even BGs ain’t worth gaining points anymore cus the solo rewards are trash , hitting GC for the emotes is the best part .. this game has completely lost its luster .. I’m grateful I’ve seen the light after all this time ..
Please try to acknowledge that the 99% of the community DO NOT jave MCOC as their daily job mate. Stop trying to sugarcoat the stupidest thing Kabam made. Just because those people are your "friends" this does not justify taht literally created those challenges to show the majority pf the MCOC players middle finger!
He acknowledged the argument of the 99% in the beginning, and then spent the rest of it discussing why it’s not true for him, and him alone. He doesn’t have to be you or have to represent your mentality. This kind of content was built for people like him. And that specifically why I support this content, I want people like Brian to have something to do on Stream that pushes them. I like to watch that. I don’t have to like to do it.
@@lovejoy1311 are you working for Kabam or you're just a simp? Having the tribune as all those RUclipsrs is a double edge sword and they don't use it properly. You're pathetic try to justify this nonsense ain't gonna make any credible in the community, mate. Jog on.
happy birthday bean boy brian
Love this. Really appreciate this angle on things.
Of course you love these challenges. Contrarian to the end. These challenges are a victim of bad timing, pure and simple. If we had nothing in the game and this dropped, cool. It’s pretty daunting but it gives us something to do. When you pile it on top of Necropolis from November, the crush 2.0 tactic in war that’s killing top tier alliances in waves, Raids with damage caps for some reason, and of course a revive system to punch through it, Winter of Woe for yet another revive fest system, and now these string of challenges that test your revive stash. A “challenge” is great. NOT at every corner of the game, and certainly not every week. Timing is everything. The game needs balance and fun, period. It has neither at the moment, but it’s not too late.
i think including lagacy challenge when you say these challenge is wrong. lagacy challenge is quite fair and gettting almost no bad feedback
I don't play the game anymore but keep up with your videos for this kind of content! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and holding space for other players' frustrations.
Hi Brian. A few things, but I do want to preface by thanking you for sharing your thoughts on the challenge. When you say “I see you”, that doesn’t mean much to me (and I’m sure it doesn’t to other people) because actions speak louder than words do. So if you or Kabam aren’t going to do anything to alleviate the situation, then your words don’t mean much (at least to me).
One of my biggest frustrations of the game and the weak excuse of people saying “This is permanent content” or “You don’t have to do this” is why create something that a majority of the players do not want to participate in.
One of the reasons challenges like this upset me, personally, is because of how the game is designed from the standpoint of how AI works. I think you’d understand it like this: You said your favorite game was Diablo 2. Correct me if I’m wrong, but some things in MMORPG games like Diablo are challenging because it’s new content therefore you’d have to understand how the AI works, how it moves in certain phases, etc. But the problem with MCOC is that you can’t have that consistently. You can recall all of the times you played PERFECTLY but you could still get screwed because of how the AI operates sometimes.
So it’s hard to want to play these “challenging” contents when you can still get screwed. I’m not saying things should not be difficult, but when things are difficult and out of your control - it becomes a whole other level of frustration. These are just my thoughts though.
The challenges were designed for the top 1% and never insinuated that they were meant to be done itemless. They told you upfront that the challenge were going to be ultra difficult. There are plenty of other challenges in the game that you can tackle that are both time based and permanent content. No one is forcing you to do the hardest challenges possible, this is true for literally every game in production. Sure, Kabam has been unethical and money hungry but seriously, stop acting like every challenge has to be designed with the entire community in mind. That's not a challenge.
Second, if you don't like the challenge and how it was constructed there is zero reason to personally attack the content creator who designed the challenge.
You need to understand that there are somethings that are not meant for you. Your entitled mindset is the issue, if AI isnt the issue, its the number of fights or the number of revives you'd use. It isnt meant for you. MSD, Beroman, Pepe have all attempted this challenge and liked it because that is target audience. You are not.
@@bushidobrown6742 nothing from my comment indicates that I somehow have an “entitled” attitude. Nowhere did I imply everyone should do it. However, your comment does show how ignorant you are. Since you didn’t see Bero’s comments on the forum, let me remind you that he didn’t find the rewards gained equal to the difficulty required. He even stated in his stream he only did the Tigra challenge because he wanted the emote, not because of anything else. And Bero is a Top player. KT1 is also a Top player and is not a fan of these challenges. You can name Pepe and MSD all you want, but there are others who feel otherwise.
4 things:
1. Thank you for the reply.
2. I can't "alleviate the situation" in any way you described because I don't work for Kabam. I have no control in the situation other than giving feedback, which I did say there's an overabundance of certain types of challenge in game atm so we might at least agree on something, I dont know.
3. Diablo 2 is my favorite of all time. And I do love MMOs. These games are well known for not just being able to play around the AI tho. It doesn't matter if you play perfectly in an MMO. You can play PERFECTLY and the boss will one shot you if you didn't farm the right gear/consumables to give you enough health to survive. The challenge in games like World of Warcraft has less to do with the encounter itself, and much more to do with how you prepared for it. Finding all the best items you can, coming together as a community to figure out best rotations, etc.
4. Your opinion is still valid. The whole point of saying that is just to say that two people can have valid opinions, even when coming from different perspectives. You don't like this content. I get it. We all get it. I'm not trying to change your mind about it. I'm just saying that I do like it. We are not enemies. We are not opposing forces. We just like to play games differently.
Excellent perspective. Well said!
17:04 yes and no because those won’t really get much easier anytime in the near or distant future
Happy birthday buddy
It was a day after I completed the Robot Object for the abs man fight that I was reminded of the Collector and of the Grandmaster. To become Uncollected, I was stuck for a day and begged my alliance to gift me revives. And the first time I fought the Grandmaster, I had to spend my revives stash along with 3k units.
I didn't spend a unit on Abs man, so maybe it's not the worse thing ever haha
Happy BD , BG. I undersrand what youre saing and i also like the planing phase in challenges. Karina 3 eop was my favorite and i rank up odin shuri and moondragon for necro. I dont see "runk up and sig up certain champion" as planing phase wich i also enjoy in this game. I did way more planing for necro. Fun planing phase was triple Juggernaut run in eop. It will be filling as bad if next objective in Winter would be "defeat boss with Luke Cage" without any choise.
To be fair , I think kabam could easily save CCP members buy adding 3-4 CCP gem and 100 CCP sigstones that can only be used on champions from the selector for every comlete challenge . As f2p player who plays in high platinum wars I simply cant efford to waste 200 sig stones on black widow despite being valiant. So this challenge is made by whales for whales.
BG is happy to have something to force him to make decisions for finally using his god damn expiring ressources. The dude have a 3 millions account that would be 5,5 millions if he just opened and used his ressources.
You want a challenge go do them spend those units it’s not viable for everyone to farm building up resources for hours each day.Go do them before you defend them.
Inventory limits for revives and potions need to be massively extended to have a chance of chipping away at this type of content.
Hey guys. Just want to put my perspective on things. Apologies for my english.
When kabam said that this content isn't for everyone and is completely optional, I just felt sad and left out.
This content is for the people that still compete or strive for something. They have enough units and motivation for such challenges (just look at BG here).
Now I ask myself, should I do them? Or should I keep on following my original plan, that I conceived during the new progression title announcement?
I choose the latter of course. I still have 8.2 to explore and prepare as many resources and units as I can for 8.4 and finally get valiant title.
So in conclusion, the player is you. If you dont find some content satisfactory, I wont blame you. If possible, thy to evaluate what you current goals are, what you want to achieve personally and start from there.
For me, I am sure I will find something to focus on after 8.4
I think some stuff should be hard, you are not losing on all that crazy mandatory stuff and its different
@@quenky1 10 energy per try isnt even much imov,5 refills and you get 42 tries
Get for 7 star Stark Spider MAN. You play with stark spider man
Always appreciate your perspective B!
Happy Birthday BG!
I couldn't agree more. That said, I can't wait to see BG lose his marbles over the Avengers challenge 😅
I very much doubt this would be your opinion if it wasn't your best mate and other friends. This challenge is horrendous
Isn't it your birthday Brian anyways happy birthday baldy✌️
Happy Birthday, BG. Thank you for your considered and rational response. Well said. And props to the creators for putting themselves out there.
As a returning player, seeing all these people complain is hilarious. These people forget the pain of slashed tires Juggernaut back in the day. What is a game without a challenging aspect that can't be done in an instant try.
It's a revive fest, they specify the champs you should use which barely work. There's no skills, no enjoyment in using your favourate champs, no strategies , just use these champs that barely work and revive.
The same thing happened to dorky Dave when he made his iceman challenge
Will you do a new account challenge or is that series over because you don't have the time to do it?
Brian, what is the difference between running lower act content over and over for revives versus doing the same type of fight in arena over and over and over? To me they are the same thing but you always have crapped on revive farming but will spend hours and hours streaming in arena. In the end these challenges will be possible for you as a F2P player bcuz you have so many units from grinding arena. Essentially kabam is forcing the player base to grind arena or spend money on units so you would have the resources to get thru the challenge.
Fair enough. To me the confusing part was ‘community challenge’.
Especially after Brutal DLX which gave some pretty darn fine 7 stars.
If they had given more forewarning and called them just carina, Uber hard ones, new generation of them, then yes.
I still haven’t done some. Community challenges means more inclusive to me.
These are top of top. Congrats to folks doing them. I’m not good enough for them and that’s fine.
I wish they were all around lags level and restricted to 5 stars.
They said one day before or day of launch few will succeed. That’s totally fine. The rewards are nice but not game changing.
Really do feel less than 1% will do or maybe even attempt. So the whole community thing Uber confusing.
And they went to overturned IMO. I expect to see very few 7 stars of these champs ever in the wild. Maybe that’s the intent.
I'm old enough to remember when the Abyss was touted as the hardest content ever; then, nearly every RUclipsr blew through it on the first day while the majority of the player base ignored it entirely and the rewards became outdated within four months of release -- hence the reason they had to basically beg people to play the Necropolis via their "rewards for deaths" gimmick.
Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if they do the Necro gimmick for the next set of CCs when 99% of the player base completely ignores these ones.
Tin foil hat on:
Lagacy, Fintech and Mike paIred with Kabam to come up with hard fights that the community would hate
BG paired with Kabam to soften the blow and ease the hate Kabam would build up against content creators
Not related to the video but do i choose tigra or ironman from the valentines selector?
To me what broke this game was the inclusion of nodes because it became so champion restricted
how are you able to rank up your ascended King Groot?
Seems like you're more excited about the resource management than anything. The only thing you seem to be finding fun, is the biggest thing people have a problem with. They don't want to allocate resources to the champs selected. You love the "challenge" of getting those specific champs to a usable state. Two perspectives talking past each other.
It just reminds me of the of realm of legends, I didn’t complete it until I had tons of 5*s, this type of content is for people who really want a challenge, it’s not designed for everyone. The champs you get aren’t game breaking they’re just exclusives that are nice to have. I’ll be doing the starky challenge for the deathless piece and that’s it, I don’t see the need to attempt the others
Interesting perspective on being bored. It is interesting to me the disparity between the long term players 5+ years and players like me. Coming up on one year in the game. I don’t share your sentiment but it’s nice to hear these challenges are making someone happy
Much respect to you BG. That statement might not carry much weight behind it due to my current milestone in this game. However, I do share my respect to your commitment to staying free to play & advocating to express the game content via the perspective of free to play. Your distinct opinions, standpoints & shared strategies are appreciated. I wish to see you in the Battle Realm.
God Banana Speed
I hear you, your points are valid. But why didnt design a challenge for a champion he had at rank 1 and hates using? This just feels like the creators made challenges for themselves to do and not for the community
Happy Birthday bald cap man
Did u use dust or just let it expired
Happy Birthday legend
Your 7* hulk is like the exact PI as mine 😅
Happy birthday Brian🎉
Thank you Brian for using your brain and coming up with a well spoken and well thought out monologue on the situation…I wish the vocal minority in this community would do the same sometimes.
I am not supporting the abusers and people who put forward death threats .
And this challenge doesnt have game changing rewards. U can skip it if u like (no one is doing 4* LOL carina challenge)
BUT
TBH, its more so how arrogantly Karatemike and FINTECH SPECIALLY reacted to the criticism that fueled the fire
KM- “IDGAF” about the community backlash.
Dude, THIS same community which supported you throughout the years. He could have just said, i gracefully accept ur criticism but guys, it is what it is, and then counter with his justification.
And now Fintech.
Dude literally said he wants to be remembered as THAT guy who created a difficult challenge. He wants to satisfy his EGO by putting community through hard time.
Again, the content is whatever for me, Its the arrogant attitude they took that bothers me.
Is the community just a tool for these guys?
Also Happy Birthday Mr. Grant!🎉🎉🎉
Happy birthday Brian it’s also my birthday today pretty cool
Honestly, Fintech challenges are made for unit man, regardless of how good you are
The idea of an actual challenge is cool if that’s what you want out of the game.
Welp, this game and community just aren't for me. Been here 6 years and Im stopping logging in. The whales dont care and the f2p CCP dont get it. It'll never change.
Thanks for the years of content.
Hey BG,
I’m a long time viewer but first find commenter, I just feel like this has to be said
It’s always so nice to hear ur unique perspective on this, however, I was really hoping that you’d speak more about how much hate kiratemike and fintech are getting (I’ve seen them get literal death threats). I mean, I personally will only be doing lagacys challenge due to my skill level and roster, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna tell Mike or Fintech to k*ll themselves for making difficult content.
Kabam literally asked them to make hyper difficult content, and they delivered. Anyway, I feel that if you had requested the community to be less toxic towards Mike and Fintech, it would have gone a long way coming from you and actually make an impact
I am genuinely scared for Mike’s and fintech’s mental state, and I really hope they get through this
Happy birthday man
Bro i got emotional dude
When you said “let me tell you a story about when i started playing this game…” and you had 28 minutes left until ur dust expired i had a heart attack… USE THE DUST BRIAN USE THE DUST NOW STOP TALKING USE THE DUST AHHHHHHHH.
Damn BG where you get all that dust?
Happy Birthday BG! Use your dust
The thing about those champions some people don’t like and never want to use them I myself have 5* Spider-Man (MCU) max lvl 1 rank and both 5&6 star black widow at max lvl 1 will I take them up after I’ll rank up all the other champions that I have and for the 2 Spider-Man and the deadpool rip off 7stars they poor and limited choice, the only 2 7star Spider-Men missing is Miles Morales and symbiote there was no variety.
At least it wasn’t the Ducks going into Necro with the title “Ducks Fly Together” 🙈
I love this challenge.❤
This game has been nothing but miserable since December
Professional RUclipsrs, or try hard gamers, or human with no personal life. The content is geared towards those MCOC options. 😂
Well said, miss the challenge of the game, now players are complaining, even tho we haven't seen a challenge in forever
Let’s see how long it will take to rank up and Sig 200 all these champions
They don't all need Sig 200 though. The Zemo challenge revolves around bleeding the enemies, not critting through block (or more damage crits, though it helps), Jabari is barely used, the Sig for Tigra just helps get things started, etc. The only one that really *needs* Sig 200 is Black Widow. Most every other Champ, a midrange Sig level is sufficient.
Happy birthday brian banana man
Well said BG
People saying only the top 1% can enjoy this challenge are so wrong. I am nowhere near the top 1%, but I’ve done two of the wow objectives and am preparing myself to do these new carinas. And enjoying every step of it. The demographic of people who enjoy it are not limited to spenders or whales or only the most skilled. It’s people who love challenging content, like Brian said. So for the people who say that these challenges are too hard or need too many resources, that’s valid for you. Just know that there are people that have been waiting for challenges like this and have different opinions on how they enjoy the game than you. If we could all respect each other in that way, then this community wouldn’t be as toxic as it has been the last few days.
Happy Birthday Brian have a super day
Holy smokes! It’s.A.Game. Don’t like Kabam, don’t spend. Don’t like the challenge, don’t play. Wonderful thing about this game. You can choose to play it or not, spend or not. 3 people had their hand in creating content that would be enjoyed. They didn’t have to do it, and Kabam didn’t have to make it permanent. There is plenty of content I struggle with and cannot do. Oh well. I’ll get there, or I won’t, but at the end of the day, it’s a game. Fintech, Lagacy, and Karatemike, thank you for taking the time to put this together for all of us. I may never get through it, but that’s okay. I for one appreciate the thought. Hope you decide to do more of it, and aren’t disillusioned by those who take to the keyboard warrior brigade and use words they don’t quite understand.
Those rewards are waaaaay from increible
Dont mind a chalange but to be fair you dont have war and aq rank ups to hold for either cuz ur not active in that plus we dont have buddies on call to walk us threw it msd ect we still have challange u just have msd say o use this do thst nothing aginst u bg much luv just doesnt seem like u have a complete grasp and everything sny more war wise single player wise
He has "buddies on call" and you have videos of him with his "buddies on call" to learn from since, you know, he streams when he plays.
To be fair him being inactive makes it even more difficult for him to produce the rank ups necessary for the challenges and as mentioned in the comment above his stream vods with people on call will be available to you as well
I do agree with the post here. He doesn’t have to rank up champs for AQ, AW as well as BGs. Even then I think he will need 1000 Sig stones for champs needed to complete these challenges so I don’t see him completing these anytime soon
@@mohsinmaqsoodmariono one has to do any of that? I dropped my ally this year to do other things. And if you say that you have to do those things to get the rank of materials you need, then how is that any different to what Brian is doing?
BG, BG, where is the thumbnail post on X 😅
99% is more like 99.9% playerbase. Just proves how much kabam or some content creators know their playerbase.
A lot of the challenges and content are extremely difficult for the majority of the people that play the game. The game is unplayable for those who don’t spend real money. The game has become unfun. KABAM is a money hungry company?
I gotta say... BG is a awesome Marvel contest of champions RUclipsr... Battlegrounds is not my Favourite content he does... But this new content looks awesome
Happy Birthday BG 🎂 🎉
Some of y'all in the comments still don't get it. Kabam is not the only company to ever put out a challenge designed to test the top 1% of its player base. Every challenge does not have to be met and every challenge cannot be viewed through the lens of players like KM, MSD, or Pepe. If you want to try the challenge ( and they are more than fair) then do it, if not stop attacking the creator personally. Everybody isn't going to be skilled enough to get through it and that's ok. That's the entire point of a challenge.
@quenky1 those content creators are part of the top 1% and like to challenge each other to see who's the best of the best. Stop bitchin just because you can't do itemless. Hell even the creators couldn't do every single one itemless. Again, they were upfront it was going to be very very difficult. That's your fault you couldn't comprehend what that meant. Everything isn't meant for everyone.
100% agree, that Carina shit is so annoying and I've playing this game 6-7 years!
Other than Lags, these challenges are terrible. Should have just named them Carinas 1% challenge, because that’s the only ones doing them.
How is that a problem tho? If these challenges were meant for people who want to go the extra mile then why is that?